Abolishing the Gregorian Calendar

I'm reposting this topic. It was lost during the board upgrade.

(I don't know how to make a poll here.)

My opinion was: keep the year numbers the same, but institute the Common Era date method (B.C.E. & C.E.) which is already widely used in textbooks. Also: change the names of the days.

i support of staying current calendar because a change would bring a lot of confusions especially to older people.

Fuserg9

needless in my opinion, the common era idea is good though

Common era is a good idea, but why change the name of the days?
What purpose does it serve? (I didn't see the previous thread, by the way.)

Common era is a good idea, but why change the name of the days?
What purpose does it serve? (I didn't see the previous thread, by the way.)

The names of the days are all based on Norse gods.

Instead, we could have Marxday, Engelsday, Leninday, Stalinday, and Maoday!

The names of the days are all based on Norse gods.

Who cares?

I think the calendar is fine as it is. Most institutions are already using BCE and CE. To change the year numbers would completely screw up history for one generation, because the old dates would already have a permanent place in the brain.

Who cares?

I think the calendar is fine as it is. Most institutions are already using BCE and CE. To change the year numbers would completely screw up history for one generation, because the old dates would already have a permanent place in the brain.

No one is talking about changing dates.

And I don't care. But that's why one would do it.

Well, I'm not very passionate on changing the days, but even though religions may have a small following, they should be fought. Some people, Nazi-types for instance, worship the Norse gods that the days are named for. I'd like to see a future free of all pernicious religious influence, even the smaller religions.

are days(!) named after gods?in greek most of them are in kind of numbering!

Fuserg9

are days(!) named after gods?in greek most of them are in kind of numbering!

Fuserg9

In English, yes. For instance:
Wednesday is named after the Norse god of war Woden (Wotan), Thursday is named after the god of thunder Thor, etc. etc.

well as i discussed in the last thread, im all for abolishing the gregorian calendar. the days dont matter to much to me, but comrade crum brings up a point, about having even the smallest bit of religious influence, which i dont think we should have at all. so id have to say just forget about calling days saturday or anything and just call them by their date. it seems foolish to me that we go in cycles of monday, tues..etc. is there any point to this weekly cycle of different names for days?

well as i discussed in the last thread, im all for abolishing the gregorian calendar. the days dont matter to much to me, but comrade crum brings up a point, about having even the smallest bit of religious influence, which i dont think we should have at all. so id have to say just forget about calling days saturday or anything and just call them by their date. it seems foolish to me that we go in cycles of monday, tues..etc. is there any point to this weekly cycle of different names for days?

I like having differences in days myself, so I think different days of the week is valuable, but there names should def be changed.
Poll Added BTW.

And I accidentally voted for #1 instead of #2, for fuck's sake.

i voted 3rd and No,getting attention to days in my language that there are not named after gods.But it could be changed in some languages that use gods name!

Fuserg9

i voted 3rd and No,getting attention to days in my language that there are not named after gods.But it could be changed in some languages that use gods name!

Fuserg9

Well, obviously day names would only have to be changed in countries where they are based on gods.

I'll say again; surely we can come up with something better, more useful than the current calender?

The odd thing is that a perfect calendar has never been created. All of the calendars that have ever been in use need periodic adjustments, that's why we have leap years. Considering that the Gregorian was developed so long ago, maybe we could create a better calendar. It would certainly help in terms of work. For instance, if we were to have a 4 day work week, an 8-day calendar would solve a lot of problems regarding weekend labor that would arise.

There should be "calendar reform", but not just because the calendar is rooted in religion. The Gregorian Calendar has been in use for an insane amount of time and I'm sure it can be bettered.

Changing the names of days also seems utterly pointless. I'm sure most people don't even know that they come from the names of gods, and people certainly don't think of days that way. I don't think anyone wakes up on Thursday and starts praying to Thor.

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Changing the names of days also seems utterly pointless. I'm sure most people don't even know that they come from the names of gods, and people certainly don't think of days that way. I don't think anyone wakes up on Thursday and starts praying to Thor.

[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Indeed. There might be good reasons for calendar reform, technical or otherwise, but the origin of the English names of the week being rooted in Norse mythology (which no one takes seriously anymore) isn’t one of them.

For example, I think the international fixed calendar has some good ideas. But it is worth looking at the current calendar reform proposals. [/FONT]

Most institutions are already using BCE and CE

Irritatingly, I've lately seen quite a number of institutions & people using this as "Christian Era" and "Before Christian Era" -.-

No. I am a dozenalist and I disagree with your proposal. 12s, and multiples of 12s, are easier to work with since the most common subdivisions can be used. In the current system you can easily divide by 3s and 4s. Not so in a base 10 system.

I would like to switch to the French Republican Calendar.
Also the Gregorian calendar is relatively new. 500 or so years in the initial nations that adopted it. And I believe Russia didn't adopt it until the USSR came into being.

My question is, what day would we celebrate May Day =( ?

I think if this is done changing the days is absolutely vital not just because of the names but it could actually be used as a tool to ween religion out of popular culture even more; many religions have a holy day at least once a week, if the names and length of the weeks are changed most religions will have to create their own traditional calendars to continue observing holy days, many casual religious people will not bother with this hassle and this will distance them further from their respective religions if they are not performing weekly ceremonies.

In English, yes. For instance:
Wednesday is named after the Norse god of war Woden (Wotan), Thursday is named after the god of thunder Thor, etc. etc.

Not in portuguese.


Sunday - Domingo (A saint. Old people still regard it as a holy day)
Monday - Segunda (Second)
Tuesday - Terça (third)
Wednesday - Quarta (Fourth)
Thursday - Quinta (Fifth)
Friday - Sexta (Sixth)
Saturday - Sábado (i think its pretty clear here... sabbath and all)




I agree with changing names, but I frankly think we have more important things to fight for.
Also, when does our scientifical calendar begin?

What about a calendar with 12 identical 30-day months (plus five or six extra days), with each month consisting of five six-day weeks?
Also, what about having the launching of Sputnik in 1957 being the 'year zero', as it brought humanity into the space age?

are days(!) named after gods?in greek most of them are in kind of numbering!

Fuserg9

Hang on, though. "To Savvato (Saturday)" is the - jewish - sabbath, and "Paraskevi (Friday)" is the "day of preparation (for the sabbath)" - Ancient Greek "paraskevo = prepare" - while "Kyriaki (Sunday)" is 'the lord's (Jesus') day."

But, yes, Monday to Thursday are numerical in Modern Greek (as in Portuguese and many other languages)

In the Romance languages (Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, French and Rumanian), "Saturday/Sunday" works the same as in Greek, while in the Slavonic languages, "Saturday" is also some variant of "sabbath."

But I would vote for both of Gennadi suggestions.