Commie Club Anarchists Campaigning to restrict Marxists

  1. Charles Xavier
    Comrades, there is a campaign by the Anarchists on the Commie Club to restrict Marxist-Leninist on shaky evidence, they are working around the ones they think are disliked the most but they are planning to restrict people like Kassad, myself, RedAvanteGuard, Hiero and others for not cheer leading US intervention in Iran.

    They are trying to ban or restrict Marxists for not being Anarchists basically

    They are not restricting people for holding reactionary positions, but because they disagree with their politics.

    I will not go into detail but be very careful. They outvote us in the commie club.
  2. Bright Banana Beard
    Bright Banana Beard
    Holy fuck, this only proves that this forums is really shitty, it shows contradiction that anarchism is all about freedom when in fact, they gonna kick ass whoever disagree with them when they can't have anymore good resourceful as their only options is to restrict us. Fucking patheic, they are.
  3. Woland
    Woland
    Btw, is our group private (i.e. only able to be seen by members)?
  4. LeninBalls
    LeninBalls
    Btw, is our group private (i.e. only able to be seen by members)?
    I think mods can see it, as fuserg is always --- about the rep spam thread.

    (Please do not use the word "*****" as a pejorative - Bobkindles)

    Anyways, how can we help and what can we do to prevent this?

    This is sad though, as anarchists outnumber us by a lot, and since it's apparently a vote...
  5. mykittyhasaboner
    mykittyhasaboner
    The group isn't private, even guests can see it.

    Tupac, I don't think those in the CC are voting to restrict **** because they aren't anarchists, its simply because they view their position's as reactionary. Many non-anarchists also voted for restriction, so I think it would be wary to claim this. If we keep blaming everything on silly anarchists in the CC, then we aren't going to get any respect from them; I think this whole factional diatribe in the CC is completely nonsene, in specific reference to the thread your most likely talking about.
  6. mosfeld
    mosfeld
    Comrades, always look on the bright side of things.

    If Marxist-Leninists get restricted we'll be forced to post here, which means we can keep to ourselves and actually have intellectual conversations free from stupid anarchist harassment (like negative rep and such).

    Also, i think we should put this group on private..
  7. Woland
    Woland
    Uh, no, restricted members can only post in OI.
  8. mosfeld
    mosfeld
    oh fuck
  9. Rjevan
    Rjevan
    Anarchists or not, I always find it funny how we are accused of being the tryrannic, intolerant Stalinists who purge everybody we dislike. Look who's talking.

    Anyway, making this group private is pretty useless, as LB said, mods, admins and maybe even CC members (I'm not sure about them though) can watch and post in private groups, too, so since we have nothing to hide and don't post privat information, making this group private would be only excluding people who may be interested in joining but want to read through some theads in the group firts.

    And about Iran, what's reactionary to be suspicious of the situation in Iran, it's not about class struggle or a workers revolution, it's people who shout "Allah is great!" and want to replace the one fundamentalist (ok, the worse but independent one) through another fundametalist (the lesser evil, but a USA puppet, in my opinion).
    If there would be any real leftist, fighting for their rights and against capitalism and the burgeois rulers and we would advise them to shut up and go home, that would be reactionary.
    But blindly cheering for some people who participate in riots, which are very likely sponsored and kindled by the CIA in order to get a new pro-west Obama puppet has nothing to do with being a true revolutionary or a reactionary. I mean, should we have supported and cheered for the the Ayatollah, when he did his revolution against the Shah, just because it was a revolution against an asshole?
  10. Woland
    Woland
    Well, I simply think that there are much more important events in the world right now than the protests in Iran, such as the Maoists in Nepal and India, worker struggles in Russia and Eastern Europe, Venezuela, etc. which all get way too little attention even though these are the places where class war is obvious. However, the way some so-called leftists openly ignore imperialism is just unbelievable.
  11. Wanted Man
    Wanted Man
    Sorry, but this is nonsense. The CC has a lot of problems, but there is no "campaign to restrict marxists". It's extremely misguided for you to scare the dozens of non-CC group members into thinking that there is.

    A lot of people are pretty damn eager to restrict those who take the wrong position on Iran. But even then, these do not include people like Kassad and TA, who are just very critical of the development of the movement. Except maybe 1 or 2 true zealots who are arguing from emotion, more than anything, and will never gain support for restricting Kassad or TA.

    People who do have a good chance of being restricted are those who actually support the islamic republic, thereby pretending that there is no alternative for the working class in Iran, that they are too "backwards" and that they can't do better than the islamic republic. Even worse when they actually support the fact that a capitalist state sends militias with sniper rifles to kill workers fighting for more rights.

    It has nothing to do with anarchists/marxists either. The vast majority of communist parties in the entire world support the movement in Iran, with the PSL, WWP and FRSO being the only exceptions that I've heard of so far. So obviously, that's not what's going on at all. Didn't Peader O'D claim to be a "left communist", actually?
  12. The Author
    The Author
    If this is about that stupid proposal by Led Zeppelin to restrict members based on a particular view of Iran, that was vetoed by Malte himself. I wouldn't worry about it.

    Let's focus on talking about what's going on in Iran, rather than board "politics."
  13. Wakizashi the Bolshevik
    WTF that would be an extremely low move of the anarchists.
  14. RHIZOMES
    RHIZOMES
    This is fucking ridiculous. Look, I can always see there's a slight anarchist bias in the CC. But it only manifests itself sometimes, every single fucking action in the CC is not a result of "oooh evil anarchist clique".
  15. RedAnarchist
    RedAnarchist
    Sorry for intruding, but as far as I know, not all CC members can view a group if it's private, just those who have mod/admin powers. As for the alleged campaign to restrict Marxists, its not true and I suggest that if you're eligible to join the CC, then apply to join. I agree with Arizona bay in that there is a slight bias due to the sizeable number of active CC members who are Anarchists.

    TA, if there was such a campaign, why are you in the CC? A few months ago, you were disliked by a lot of people and had negative reputation, but now you're in the CC and have positive reputation.
  16. Hoggy_RS
    Hoggy_RS
    we should start up are own commie club, with hookers and blackjack....

    What is the commie club? an area for posters with a certain amount of posts??
  17. RedAnarchist
    RedAnarchist
    we should start up are own commie club, with hookers and blackjack....

    What is the commie club? an area for posters with a certain amount of posts??
    http://www.revleft.com/vb/faq.php?faq=thecc
  18. Guerrilla22
    we're all fucked
  19. rednordman
    rednordman
    Haha, is this 'commie club' like some sort of 'elitist lounge' where they all bad mouth the non-members behind their backs? sorry but it does seem to strike a slight bit of exclusivity about it imo.
  20. Charles Xavier
    Jorg Miguel is now to be the second on the list, they are trying to ban him for spamming in a couple threads.
  21. RedAnarchist
    RedAnarchist
    Haha, is this 'commie club' like some sort of 'elitist lounge' where they all bad mouth the non-members behind their backs? sorry but it does seem to strike a slight bit of exclusivity about it imo.
    Most of the very active (i.e at least once a week or so) members tend to be in the CC. However, that means that the CC only has around 200 or so members.
  22. RedAnarchist
    RedAnarchist
    Jorg Miguel is now to be the second on the list, they are trying to ban him for spamming in a couple threads.
    If there is such a campaign, I've never been told of it. There has been plenty of other members who weren't ML that have been banned/suspended/restricted.
  23. Charles Xavier
    Jacob Richter is now in the sights of the anarcho-trots.
  24. hugsandmarxism
    Ruh-roh.
  25. BobKKKindle$
    TAII, stop leaking information from the CC, it is against the rules of the forum, and if you do it again I will start a thread supporting disciplinary action.
  26. Charles Xavier
    I have not leaked any information.
  27. Smalltown Boy
    I know I never post here...

    ...but does this not just suggest we should vacate to create our own forum on the web for Marxist-Leninists/Communists. I know it is vital we engage with those outside ourselves, particularly the youth here, who join here and no doubt are initially attracted to utopian and idealism thinking... ...but surely can we not do both and be more successful at both, through engagement here and through consolidation with our own forum in line with the KKE's movement to unite international Communists around its recent line on socialism?
  28. rednordman
    rednordman
    I know I never post here...

    ...but does this not just suggest we should vacate to create our own forum on the web for Marxist-Leninists/Communists. I know it is vital we engage with those outside ourselves, particularly the youth here, who join here and no doubt are initially attracted to utopian and idealism thinking... ...but surely can we not do both and be more successful at both, through engagement here and through consolidation with our own forum in line with the KKE's movement to unite international Communists around its recent line on socialism?
    This is sort of what i feel but, i do not hate the anarchists, trots and left communists. so i dont mind hearing what they have to say. It does surprise me that there isnt a forum for M-Lsts that isnt as.well 'in your face' as s empire.
  29. The Bear
    The Bear
    sad how many anarchist behave this weird way. So pushy , frustrated , raging...
  30. Charles Xavier
    Well comrades, we don't need to worry anymore for the time being, we have a balance of power in the CC right now. Do not keep your guard down though.
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