The historical failure of Kautskyism - Marx was right

  1. Tower of Bebel
    Tower of Bebel
    From the 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon:
    As against the coalesced bourgeoisie, a coalition between petty bourgeois and workers had been formed, the so-called Social-Democratic party. The petty bourgeois saw that they were badly rewarded after the June days of 1848, that their material interests were imperiled, and that the democratic guarantees which were to insure the effectuation of these interests were called in question by the counterrevolution. Accordingly they came closer to the workers.

    On the other hand, their parliamentary representation, the Montagne, thrust aside during the dictatorship of the bourgeois republicans, had in the last half of the life of the Constituent Assembly reconquered its lost popularity through the struggle with Bonaparte and the royalist ministers.

    It had concluded an alliance with the socialist leaders. In February, 1849, banquets celebrated the reconciliation. A joint program was drafted, joint election committees were set up and joint candidates put forward. The revolutionary point was broken off and a democratic turn given to the social demands of the proletariat; the purely political form was stripped off the democratic claims of the petty bourgeoisie and their socialist point thrust forward. Thus arose social-democracy.

    The new Montagne, the result of this combination, contained, apart from some supernumeraries from the working class and some socialist sectarians, the same elements as the old Montagne, but numerically stronger. However, in the course of development it had changed with the class that it represented.

    The peculiar character of social-democracy is epitomized in the fact that democratic-republican institutions are demanded as a means, not of doing away with two extremes, capital and wage labor, but of weakening their antagonism and transforming it into harmony. However different the means proposed for the attainment of this end may be, however much it may be trimmed with more or less revolutionary notions, the content remains the same. This content is the transformation of society in a democratic way, but a transformation within the bounds of the petty bourgeoisie. Only one must not get the narrow-minded notion that the petty bourgeoisie, on principle, wishes to enforce an egoistic class interest. Rather, it believes that the special conditions of its emancipation are the general conditions within whose frame alone modern society can be saved and the class struggle avoided.

    Just as little must one imagine that the democratic representatives are indeed all shopkeepers or enthusiastic champions of shopkeepers. According to their education and their individual position they may be as far apart as heaven and earth. What makes them representatives of the petty bourgeoisie is the fact that in their minds they do not get beyond the limits which the latter do not get beyond in life, that they are consequently driven, theoretically, to the same problems and solutions to which material interest and social position drive the latter practically. This is, in general, the relationship between the political and literary representatives of a class and the class they represent.
    I think this summarizes what went wrong with Kautskyism in Germany. Even though Kautsky must have known what Marx and Engels have written about this. Still he fell in the same trap. Is it the vagueness of old Engels or did Kautsky never learn from this example?
  2. Die Neue Zeit
    Die Neue Zeit
    Comrade, either my post here is a reply, or it is completely off the mark and I'm confused.

    As I noted in my recent Theory thread (and three PCSSR sections), I'm not sure what extent Marx knew about random sortition. Comrade Miles told me that the CPGB are making the "democratist" error on the opposite coin side of economism.

    I read the Historical Materialism series book on the German revolution last night, and the proletarian nature of the party as advocated militantly by Kautsky (so, party-wise, he avoided the first mistake above) was broken down shortly after 1905-1906 in vain attempts to woo not just the petit-bourgeois class of small-business owners, but also that class of mainly "middle-income" semi-workers (self-employed folks like the notorious Joe the Plumber in the US).

    If anything else, it was *Lenin* who repeated the mistake more than Kautsky did. Towards the end of his life, he suggested letting in *peasants* into the Communist Party as check on the growing bureaucracy. The later "Lenin Levy" was aimed at bolstering the position of the newly formed coordinator class.

    The real question is: Are Mike Macnair (of questionable class background) and co. repeating the same mistakes?
  3. Tower of Bebel
    Tower of Bebel
    On a related note - leaving the trap of the petty bourgeois behind us while going to the subject of the perceived class character of german social democracy -; what does a party of the whole working class [or class as a whole] mean? Or what did it mean (in the eyes of Kautsky)? Did it mean organizing "too many layers" in one party? After 1889, but more seriously after 1907 the German party seemed to open up to all kinds of elements atracted to concepts perceived to fit the notion social and democracy or social democracy. Was that "wrong"?
  4. Die Neue Zeit
    Die Neue Zeit
    I suppose that, back in the day, it meant "too many layers." I mean, Kautsky was OK with having reformists in, so long as they were of a working-class background.

    After 1889, but more seriously after 1907 the German party seemed to open up to all kinds of elements attracted to concepts perceived to fit the notion social and democracy or social democracy. Was that "wrong"?
    Yes it was, especially foreign classes (as I said above). I won't blame this on Kautsky the theoretician, since I think it was an oversight on his part (his lack of attention to organizational affairs), but on your role model (since he was on the wrong side of this since 1895 ).



    In the present, the reformists in Class-Strugglist Social Labour would have to come from a very limited pool (those that advocate class struggle, to say the least):

    1) I generally see pareconists, for instance, as reformists (erroneously viewing Keynesian reforms as a stepping stone), even the few of them that are working-class (as opposed to intellectuals and students who should not have voting rights), but their "hearts" are in the right place.

    2) Certain DeLeonists would have pet peeves with my programmatic statement rejecting parliamentarism as a strategy, but would be gung-ho with the tactics surrounding "grassroots constitutional reform" ("grassroots movements" for wholesale constitutional amendments that are beyond chavismo, but something within a chavista-like framework).

    3) I don't think there's any working-class person who subscribes to the jargon-heavy, post-modernist views such as those of Hardt, Negri, Trott, etc.
  5. Asoka89
    Asoka89
    Jacob's first reply explains that Kautsky was not the problem. Its important to note that went we use the term "left-Kautskyism" or embrace the legacy, we are actually just referring to supporting the "strategy of patience", not the man himself (I'm a big fan of Trotsky as a leader and as a person, but that doesn't mean I buy the transitional programme")

    Did you read "Revolutionary Strategy" in totality? If not here: http://radicalebooks.blogspot.com/20...ke-mcnair.html
  6. Die Neue Zeit
    Die Neue Zeit
    There isn't much difference between the book and the 2006 series of articles that I posted here:

    http://www.revleft.com/vb/kautsky-v-...html?p=1203523

    Funny, though, that you and I have done the exact opposite of what comrade Macnair wanted regarding the term "Kautskyism" and the label "Kautskyist" (openly embracing it as opposed to avoiding it like he does). I prefer the term revolutionary-centrist, though (to piss off those particular Trotskyists who are prone to knee-jerk reactions at the latter word).