Which Party Which Country?

Britain, Communist Party of Britain. I'm not a member yet, but I'm looking at joining when I have the money to pay dues.

Norway, Communist Party of Norway.
Member and secretary of the Youth Organisation. The YO is more of an organisation within the party than outside of it, so all members of the YO is also members of the party. The current deputy leader, is also a member of the YO.
The party has roughly 500 members, although things are looking up. The party was in decline from 1949 to about 2006 and now our membership is growing. We did have a large drop in membership between 2001-2004 following a period of purging of reformists and (sadly) some comrades leaving the party in response to that.

Scotland, was Communist Party of Britain but thinking of maybe joining CPGB-ML

Finland, Communist Party of Finland (Suomen Kommunistinen Puolue SKP)

Commrade TVM , why leaving PSL and joining FRSO ?

Sorry for taking so long in responding. Didn't realize this question was asked. If you see clearly, I didn't join the PSL. I was and still am a supporter of the PSL. I have many great comrades within the organization. Though, I instead joined the FRSO - Fight Back! because my politics was more in relation to them than that of the PSL. Though, I will say, there's very little the PSL and FRSO disagree on. Both are great organizations, and strict Marxist-Leninists.

Join Progressive Labor Party, PLP is the only truly anti-revisionist ML party in the US and growing. PLP has several thousand cadres spread over 20 countries. Mostly in big cities.

PLP is not on revleft though, so it must not exist, lolz! Most comrades I know have never even heard of this forum.

PLP says socialism leads back to capitalism not onward to communism because socialism retains money, borders, privileged groups and wage differentials. After the revolution PLP calls for "communism of a lower order", which will develop into full communism. Establishing communist social relations must be the top priority. All vestiges of Capitalism will be irreversibly smashed. Money will all be shredded and used for mulch.

Kasama Project is the RCP without Bob Avakian, same politics. "Great Leader" politics without the "Great Leader".

The top leaders of PSL are sharp and super committed but their newspaper and on-the-job-work and international work are all weak. They also participate in elections which is politically dubious. PSL made a big push on the weed legalization measures in CA. Which is questionable. It's was on the PSL website anyway. Weed is fun, but not good politically.

Check out www.plp.org and the PLP wiki on wikipedia.

Join Progressive Labor Party, PLP is the only truly anti-revisionist ML party in the US and growing. PLP has several thousand cadres spread over 20 countries. Mostly in big cities.

PLP is not on revleft though, so it must not exist, lolz! Most comrades I know have never even heard of this forum.

PLP says socialism leads back to capitalism not onward to communism because socialism retains money, borders, privileged groups and wage differentials. After the revolution PLP calls for "communism of a lower order", which will develop into full communism. Establishing communist social relations must be the top priority. All vestiges of Capitalism will be irreversibly smashed. Money will all be shredded and used for mulch.

Kasama Project is the RCP without Bob Avakian, same politics. "Great Leader" politics without the "Great Leader".

The top leaders of PSL are sharp and super committed but their newspaper and on-the-job-work and international work are all weak. They also participate in elections which is politically dubious. There is a strong weed culture in PSL which is fun but not good politically.

Check out www.plp.org and the PLP wiki on wikipedia.

"Communism of a lower order" is nothing new, and the PLP most certainly doesn't hold this line only.

Marx spoke specifically of lower and higher forms of capitalism; thus, the logic of there being lower and higher forms of socialism - the transitional period towards Communism. Whether you call it lower form of socialism or of communism, it's of no difference. In fact, it's a line by that of the FRSO as well. I'm sure those of the PSL recognize it also.

So thanks for the offer, but I'll stick with my party - the FRSO-FB!

The FRSO-Fight Back! and the PSL are probably two the most devoted ML parties in the States. So many of us are in great relations with one another (mainly because there's so very little we differentiate from). A little bit on China (not much, really), and our viewpoints on pressing forward candidates. The PSL is pretty much leading such campaigns, where we of the FRSO just don't think we're ready for such a thing and are better off pressing full attention on the front lines, rather than the ballot box.

Really, though, the only major(?) difference between those of us in the FRSO-FB! and the PSL is our lines on Stalin. As comrade Kassad has already pointed out, the PSL does recognize Stalin's contributions towards the struggle, especially his great leadership during the Great Patriotic War. Though, they then criticize Stalin for something we, of the FRSO, believe was the correct line of Stalin's - the purging of party members that admittedly partaken in a conspiracy to oust the USSR's leadership (and more than likely the whole of the Bolshevik party).

This isn't to say that we don't criticize certain errors of Stalin's. We just don't blame Stalin on the usual crap, like the purging (it was, in our opinion, rightfully conducted), the 1937-1938 gulag repressions (anyone with a certain credible sense of Soviet history would be best to look at Ezhov (another member of the later-conspiracy) rather than Stalin), nor crap like "The Doctor's Plot" (Khrushchev may have tried blaming Stalin and Beria for this, but his hands weren't clean, nor his lackeys. In fact, Stalin and Beria's were a lot cleaner).

So, other than all that fun stuff, the PSL and FRSO-FB! get along very well. Hence my logic of stating they're the two most devoted ML parties in the States.

Macedonia, Social-Democratic Union of Macedonia (Социјалдемократски сојуз на Македонија - СДСМ), formerly "Union of the Macedonian communists" part of the "Union of the Yugoslav communists" and ruling party in socialist Yugoslavia.

The mere suggestion that PLP has "thousands" of members across the world was some good comic relief on a dreary morning. They most certainly didn't have "thousands" of their members at demonstrations in New York. They're a tiny sect compared to their former size and it's laughable to suggest that they have more than a couple hundred members.

The FRSO-Fight Back! and the PSL are probably two the most devoted ML parties in the States. So many of us are in great relations with one another (mainly because there's so very little we differentiate from). A little bit on China (not much, really), and our viewpoints on pressing forward candidates. The PSL is pretty much leading such campaigns, where we of the FRSO just don't think we're ready for such a thing and are better off pressing full attention on the front lines, rather than the ballot box.

Really, though, the only major(?) difference between those of us in the FRSO-FB! and the PSL is our lines on Stalin. As comrade Kassad has already pointed out, the PSL does recognize Stalin's contributions towards the struggle, especially his great leadership during the Great Patriotic War. Though, they then criticize Stalin for something we, of the FRSO, believe was the correct line of Stalin's - the purging of party members that admittedly partaken in a conspiracy to oust the USSR's leadership (and more than likely the whole of the Bolshevik party).

This isn't to say that we don't criticize certain errors of Stalin's. We just don't blame Stalin on the usual crap, like the purging (it was, in our opinion, rightfully conducted), the 1937-1938 gulag repressions (anyone with a certain credible sense of Soviet history would be best to look at Ezhov (another member of the later-conspiracy) rather than Stalin), nor crap like "The Doctor's Plot" (Khrushchev may have tried blaming Stalin and Beria for this, but his hands weren't clean, nor his lackeys. In fact, Stalin and Beria's were a lot cleaner).

So, other than all that fun stuff, the PSL and FRSO-FB! get along very well. Hence my logic of stating they're the two most devoted ML parties in the States.

Great information. I've been looking at those two lately and am considering joining one of them after I do some more research and figuring things out myself.

Marxist-Leninist Communist Organization "Voie Prolétarienne", France.

PSL (candidate)-US.

Great information. I've been looking at those two lately and am considering joining one of them after I do some more research and figuring things out myself.

Well if you're interested, you can always contact the FRSO and they'll help you with anything you need answered or to be better understood. Here's their email:

<[email protected]>

Well if you're interested, you can always contact the FRSO and they'll help you with anything you need answered or to be better understood. Here's their email:

<[email protected]>

Alright, thanks. I'm still working on some other things first before I join any party or organization, though.

The mere suggestion that PLP has "thousands" of members across the world was some good comic relief on a dreary morning. They most certainly didn't have "thousands" of their members at demonstrations in New York. They're a tiny sect compared to their former size and it's laughable to suggest that they have more than a couple hundred members.

Did you see PLP on May Day in Foley Square? Only 700 comrades.

Do you even know what you're talking about?

I may have worded that poorly and will edit. I don't know any PSL comrades personally. This is a political criticism not an "attack". I'm not anti-weed.

PSL made a big push on the weed legalization measures in CA. It's was on the PSL website anyway.

1. Leading people to the ballot box for any reason is politically questionable given the current political situation (opportunism, revisionism liberalism). Capitalism is not reformable, especially in this late stage.

2. One may draw the erroneous conclusion that PSL endorses smoking weed.

Questionable, but I'm open to theory.

England, CPGB-ML.

Canada, Communist Party (no A-M-Trots-Hox, no Canadian)

I may have worded that poorly and will edit. I don't know any PSL comrades personally. This is a political criticism not an "attack". I'm not anti-weed.

PSL made a big push on the weed legalization measures in CA. It's was on the PSL website anyway.

1. Leading people to the ballot box for any reason is politically questionable given the current political situation (opportunism, revisionism liberalism). Capitalism is not reformable, especially in this late stage.

2. One may draw the erroneous conclusion that PSL endorses smoking weed.

Questionable, but I'm open to theory.

The party doesnt "endorse" illegal activities. what you do one your own time is your own deal. if it starts effecting your party work and mass org work then there is a problem. Also, bringing weed or alcohol to demos is a surefire way to get a heavy ticket if you are arrested at a demo or doing party work. its also strongly discouraged.

Some of the party leaders are actually very against weed, and some dont care. its not that big of an issue though, really.

Brazil, Juventude Comunista Avançando, youth wing of the Pólo Comunista LuÃ*s Carlos Prestes.

Just finished my recruitment period, we are affiliated with the WFDY and politically in-line with the PCV and KKE in many aspects.

We also contribute with the Associação Cultural José MartÃ* and solidarity fronts for Bolivarianism and the FARC-EP.

Red party in Norway. Pretty revisionist, but as long as there is so much fractions between the real marxist-leninists it seems like the best choice too me. And of course the youth organisation (Red youth) is a lot more leftist than the seniors.

The US, and Party for Socialism and Liberation. I'm in the candidacy process and super excited. The gent I'm in contact with is great and were planning to meet up over thanksgiving. Excited.

Australia. Was in the CPA but am having a break due to their revisionism. Giorgos Marinos and the KKE seems the way to go.

How many members does the PSL have?

You gotta understand they have an incredibly high turnover rate. Seeing as they teach that socialism ended with Gorbachev I'm not surprised.