Don't patronise ladies who raunch - Nina Funnell

  1. Black Dagger
    The following is an opinion piece which recently appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald, a popular daily newspaper in sydney - australia.

    It's weird considering the company at SMH - though this is not the first time they have published decent articles by a feminist academic - if you haven't seen this TV program - Ladette to Lady - then check the wiki page here for more info. Anyways, any thoughts on this?


    Don't patronise ladies who raunch

    Once again Ladette to Lady has delivered an odious set of offensive, loud and disrespectful individuals who are clearly products of their own upbringing and class. And I'm not talking about the "ladettes". I'm talking about the matrons responsible for turning our boorish Aussie ladettes into refined young ladies.

    Between screaming at their wards and calling them "common", "whorish" and "scum", the matrons have dropped clangers such as "find a rich husband to indulge you because otherwise, how will you ever do anything?", and "when a woman meets a man she is thinking 'is he a life partner?'; when a man meets a woman he is thinking 'is she good breeding stock?'."

    Patronising and judgmental, the matrons obviously missed the memo on distasteful snobbery (not to mention the one on the sexual liberation movement).

    Much column space has been reserved for discussing young women and their increasingly drunken, bawdy and sometimes violent behaviour. But according to the academic Catharine Lumby, underpinning the concern that young women are out of control is a series of problematic beliefs and assumptions regarding class, gender and power.

    The first is that young women are not supposed to act like young men. Still considered the "fairer" sex, women continue to bear the responsibility for upholding moral standards on behalf of the community. So while binge drinking, public urination and belching are considered unflattering (but routine) among young men, young women who engage in such "male" behaviours are not only unattractive, they are also considered dangerous threats to the moral order.

    The anxiety over ladette behaviour also appears to stem from a toffee-nosed classism bound up in a wider intergenerational struggle for authority; older, middle-class women believe they know what's best for young women, especially if they are working class or in any way perceived as being deficient.

    But it is not simply middle-class, conservative marms who tut-tut and attempt to regulate young women. Ironically, many feminists are also guilty of talking down to young women, often in the name of protectionism.

    In her book Female Chauvinist Pigs, the feminist author Ariel Levy scolds young women who embrace smutty outfits, attitudes and behaviours, labelling their actions as a form of "faux empowerment". Levy's concern is that by engaging in excessively "skanky" behaviour, young women are misusing and abusing the freedoms granted to them by past generations of feminists.

    Of course, the risk of granting freedom is that if it is to be genuine, then once it is granted, the giver must surrender the right to dictate how that freedom is used. This is the predicament that some senior feminists now find themselves in; by declaring all women liberated, they have lost the right to prescribe and regulate how young women behave. The subsequent anxiety has resulted in a flurry of exasperated manifestos directed at young women, and a growing intergenerational distrust.
    On one side of the divide, many senior feminists question the political sincerity of young women who appropriate the feminist tenets of "choice" and "empowerment" to lend justification to their "smutty" lifestyle choices.

    On the other side, many young women view criticisms about their behaviour as covert attempts by others to control them. As Lumby states, "From where the next generation sits, the old guard has begun to look suspiciously like the patriarchal order it once opposed."
    As a 25-year-old woman (and a feminist) I feel particularly compelled to comment. A number of my friends take pole-dancing classes. Another two have had boob jobs. And many of my friends enjoy big nights out on the booze. They also swear, smoke and have sex.

    Yet these women are highly successful, motivated, intelligent individuals. They would take offence at the suggestion they have been coerced or duped into a life of laddette hedonism. Perhaps they are atypical ladettes. But even if they are, feminists still ought to acknowledge and engage with such narratives rather than dismissing them in favour of the view that all ladettes are vulnerable cultural dupes who perform purely for the benefit of men.

    So rather than scoffing over young women and scolding them when they behave like young men, perhaps it would be more fruitful to try to understand the cultural significance and reasons behind the raunch trend.

    Nina Funnell is a researcher in the Journalism and Media Research Centre at the University of NSW.
  2. Module
    Module
    Sorry, I know the following isn't a very constructive post;
    I watched the 'Aussie Ladette to Lady' last night, coincidentally! Christ some of those women are rude pricks!! If I was in some of those 'ladettes' shoes there's no way I wouldn't have taken some of the shit they got.
    Basically the entire show was them being told how stupid they were for not understanding ridiculous, demeaning 'etiquette', and how worthless they were for being.. who they were. It was just infuriating to watch at some points, especially when this girl got yelled at, being told that she "didn't think", because she cut the scones before serving! ARgh!
    Apparently because one of the girls had 'pornographic' pictures of herself she had no respect for herself and her body! The whole show was just absurd. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those girls came out of that show with their self esteem totally destroyed. Well, some of them might come out of the show feeling confident about how 'classy' they are for following an endless amount of ridiculous rules, but if those women at Eggleston Hall really got their message across to those girls, they'd come out having next to no confidence in their own intellectual ability or any meaningful sense of self worth. !@*$!
  3. Il Medico
    Il Medico
    I never got the attacks on these women, especially by feminist. Why would you attack a young girl for acting like a guy? I thought Feminism was about equality, and not the "separate but equal kind". I think the more the sexes share culture and intermingle the better. It will progress understanding among the sexes and lead to a better world.
  4. Rjevan
    Rjevan
    I have never heard of this show but if it's similar to the German reality shows, I think I know quite well what it is like. These stupid shows which are for the amusement of the typical chav and sensationalism of the gleeful, live from public humiliation and should be forbidden, at least in my opinion.

    the matrons have dropped clangers such as "find a rich husband to indulge you because otherwise, how will you ever do anything?"
    Wow, I have to say... so this is the opinion of real ladies? Marry a rich guy, since your not good for anything else and you know it? Then I have to say that I prefer the attitude of so-called ladettes.

    "when a woman meets a man she is thinking 'is he a life partner?'; when a man meets a woman he is thinking 'is she good breeding stock?'"
    Er... hello? What did they smoke? I can't speak for women but I definitely never thought "is she a good breeding stock" when I met a woman for the first time, "not even" if I meet with my girlfriend. This is ridiculous!

    I can only repeat: though they are good for fascinating experiences and moments of thoughtfulness (see above...) such shows should be forbidden for the sake of public sanity!
  5. yuon
    I've never seen (or I think, even heard of before now) the show. However, it sounds ghastly. Based on a quick skim of the Wikipedia article, the above article provides what seems like quite a good analysis.

    Oh, and cutting the scones before serving? What's wrong with that?

    However, I guess I don't know anything about scones, my favourite way of eating is in a bowl, heaped with whipped cream and jam, and eaten with a spoon. Hardly lady like behaviour.
  6. amoureuse
    I like my scones freshly cooked or microwaved, with lots of butter and jam on them with a cup of milk. I like this show, it reminds me of why morality is absurd. The contestent Skye reminded me of myself - when she gets angry, she yells through her teeth.