Marxist-Leninist organizations in the U.S.

Can anybody reccomend any decent ML organizations in the U.S.? I e-mailed a couple, but they did not reply. I'm very eager to meet up with people are put alot of preaching into action. Your aid is much appreciated.

The Party for Socialism and Liberation is gettin there.

CPUSA would be the correct option, however they are immensely ideologically underdeveloped.

The RCP is trash, and i agree that the PSL idealology is warped ESPECIALLY when it comes to China.

Calling corruption and private ownership out for what it is, is "Anti- Dialectical"?! Quite Laughable if I do say so myself.

However given this or the CPUSA, who in one of their articles said this of Comrade Stalin:

"In addition the previous Program chapter on Marxism-Leninism defines it incorrectly, not as Lenin did, but as Stalin did. Stalin calls all of Marxism-Leninism science. That means all of the theory of socialist revolution is a matter of law and science. There is no room for tactics that reflect experience, skill, trial and error. They are all scientific and correct or incorrect in which case they reflect bourgeois or petty bourgeois ideology and interests and are counter to Marxist-Leninist science. Then if you have a cult of personality built around you and you are the infallible continuer of Lenin, all your pronouncements on all issues, including tactics are Marxist-Leninist, scientific, and represent the interests of the working class. Any disagreement is anti- Marxist-Leninist and enemy ideology. This was the theoretical justification for Stalin’s repressions against hundreds of thousands of good Communists." -CPUSA "On Criticisms from the Left"

I think the choice is clear.

I mean honestly, betraying Stalin is one thing, betraying your party members is another, but the CPUSA has gone as far as to betray the entirety of Americas Working Class. I imagine Gus Hall is turning in his grave as we type...

It does not sound as if the CPUSA is anti-leninist, just in a very bad state. Their positions are not formulated properly. But with dialectics one thing we can know for certain is change. Opportunism in the CPUSA will one day be defeated or the CPUSA will bare the consequences for it.

By the by

Danny Rubin, former member of the Committees of Correspondence (a social-democratic deviation that split from the CPUSA because of rejection of Marxism-Leninism and fanatical hatred of Gus Hall in the early 1990s) and now CPUSA member, should have taken a break with the weird formulations and noted how many times the book Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism used the word "science" in connection with Marxism-Leninism!!

I dont think the the CC membs in the party leadership the CPUSA is salvagable.

As for the PLP, last i checked they advocated the immediate abolition of the system of wage labour, this too me sounds foolish if not dangerous.

"As for the PLP, last i checked they advocated the immediate abolition of the system of wage labour, this too me sounds foolish if not dangerous."


History shows that socialism leads to capitalism.

Class society relies on reproduction of inequality to perpetuate.
Wages and Nationalism reproduce inequality. Socialism retains these features. The labor hierarchy of the wage system is exploitation.

Nationalism is the opposite of internationalism. Socialism is nationalist yet internationalist. That's a contradiction that capital bears as well.

The key is to stop the reproduction of inequality in social relations. To me that's what anti-revisionism is.

I think DiaMat has a valid point. The faster we move away from capitalism the better. It's a view worth taking note of.

"As for the PLP, last i checked they advocated the immediate abolition of the system of wage labour, this too me sounds foolish if not dangerous."


History shows that socialism leads to capitalism.

Class society relies on reproduction of inequality to perpetuate.
Wages and Nationalism reproduce inequality. Socialism retains these features. The labor hierarchy of the wage system is exploitation.

Nationalism is the opposite of internationalism. Socialism is nationalist yet internationalist. That's a contradiction that capital bears as well.

The key is to stop the reproduction of inequality in social relations. To me that's what anti-revisionism is.

Socialism and the dictatorship of the proletariat are necessary for the survival of the revolution, both encorporate a medium of exchange.

There NEEDS to be inequality in order for us to ultimately have equality. We must start by making society FAIR, then we can consider true equality.

The PSL/WWP/FSRO's arent small sects, and i'll take them over Sam Webb anytime. Ofcourse there is still alot of potential in the CPUSA's grassroot base, some cadres, and scholars linked to them (michael parenti for instance), but stereotyping the rest of the ML'ist left as "small secs" is just a old habit from the pre-90's and totally passe atm. Most of the ML'ist militancy has gone down hill with the passing of Gus Hall.

The Party for Socialism and Liberation is the only organization with activist presence and relevance. Workers World has minute support, Socialist Workers Party is a Trotskyist group and everyone else is far from Marxist-Leninist. The Party for Socialism and Liberation is the prime Marxist force today and has the greatest potential for creating a mass movement, especially through the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition.

I must confess to not knowing a lot about the current state of the CPUSA. I think they're still the biggest on paper, but what does this really mean? If they have the strongest link to the masses, and are active in the union movement along marxist-leninist lines, that might compensate for their current gross revisionist line. After all, if the party is to be turned away from revisionism, it must be done from the working class base, with an active role taken by marxist-leninist militants. Examples in Europe have shown this clearly.

At the moment, if I were in the US, I'd probably support the PSL.

After 2 years of asking various WWP and PSL members, i still havent heard any concrete explanations for the 2004 splitt though... which really bugs me (even through official channels). Why the major secrecy? I guess this is the only bad habit the WWP/PSL inherited from their trotskyist orgins

I've heard rumors that it was about Lenin's stance on the national question, with those who split saying that those who disagreed were distorting Lenin's statements on the national question and believed the detractors were elevating black comrades above other people, due to their struggle. The Workers World members who did not support the split believed that the African American community had the right to self-determination, which is divisive and exploits prejudive by splitting races up instead of supporting diversity.

If this is true, I see why they split. If not, and since I have no real source besides what I've heard in discussions, then I'm at a loss. Either way, A.N.S.W.E.R. leaved Troops Out Now in the dust when it comes to organization and I hope to see more people from Workers World see the light and join the Party for Socialism and Liberation.