Conversation Between punisa and Red Commissar

  1. Red Commissar
  2. Red Commissar
    One thing that interests me is how a country views its own history. I know how the United States generally has an "accepted" line of interpretation of historical events, sometimes accurate and other times not. At any event it shows the impressions of the people towards the event.
  3. punisa
    Yes IMRO (or VMRO as we call it) was a national liberation movement for Macedonia. Vlado, who killed the king was a member, but IMRO was also connected with Ustase at the time.
    My guess is that their "politics" for national liberation found some similar points.
    It comes at no surprise since Macedonia does not share physical border with Croatia and thus there were never any "tensions" between these two nations.

    I'll be honest - I'm not sure what the official Yugoslav interpretation of the king assassination was. But I'll look it up.
    As for IMRO, this is mostly true:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ost-war_period

    There were indeed some fine communists in the IMRO, but purges still happened.
  4. Red Commissar
    A question if you will,

    I was reading up on interwar history and I was looking over major events. One of these was the assassination of the Yugoslav king Alexander I. What was the treatment/interpretation of that event by the post war socialist state?

    The reason why I ask is that the assassin was one Vlado Chernozemski who was a Bulgarian member of the IMRO, a secessionist movement, but some sources have speculated possible ustase involvement in the assassination.
  5. Red Commissar
    The way I see it, I think what we must all see is that everyone had their advantages and disadvantages, though it's sad with the level of venom some people will pursuit it with.

    And that's a good bunch of books you got there. Hopefully you can help give a summary of those of us who can not read the language.
  6. punisa
    Thanks for that Gramsci. I noticed that whenever there is a new thread about Tito, mostly same posters come up with the same old arguments. Debunking them over and over again every few weeks would be pointless, lol
    Related to the topic - I tracked down a guy from Serbia who agreed to sell me a collection of books about Tito and worker's self-managmenet from the 60's.
    For only 15 bucks he sold me 10 books with every book having over 300 pages.. that's some 3000 pages of pure theory right there.
    Exactly the stuff I was hoping to find in order to look much deeper into the ways and the style of Yugoslav self management program.
  7. Red Commissar
    http://www.revleft.com/vb/tito-yugos...997/index.html

    Thought you might be interested in that.
  8. Red Commissar
    I found these two old Yugoslav films on the internet, about the Yugoslav partisans.
    One is about Neretva and the other about Sutjeska. They are interesting in the scale of its production, it holds up well to other WW II films produced in the West.

    They're both in Serbo-Croatian obviously, so I have to use subtitles. The one for Sutjeska is good. The one for Neretva is also good, but it's not synchronized well.
  9. punisa
    thanks, glad you liked it
  10. Red Commissar
    Good posts in the Yugoslavia/Tito thread!
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