He outlined the WWP and the PSL (I belive) position, answering the question in the opening post of the thread, and attacked certain propagandistic claims made about the DPR Korea (as did other posters, including myself, most of who do not consider the DPRK to be a socialist state). At present, the greater part of the proletariat in Europe and the Americas supports bourgeois dictatorships, including overtly militarist ones such as the USA. This will not change if we fudge our theoretical analysis in order to accommodate reactionary sentiment of the proletariat.
All the more reason why he shouldn't be calling NK a socialist state, it would have been nice for him to elaborate on what aspects of socialism NK has adopted (and subsequently dropped). He didn't. He accused me of bourgeois propaganda. Unlike the poster who was restricted he didn't even justify his claims. How about the proletariat, who might just take capitalism over a militarist regime, don't you think?
Workers' states, deformed or otherwise, are not necessarily socialist. You should at least be familiar with the relevant terminology. Likewise, Leftsolidarity, at the very least, knows what socialism is according to the Marxist-Leninist definition. You never mentioned liberals explicitly, but to who are we supposed to appear "credible"?
When did I try to force support for any liberals? When did I even mention liberals? And now you are backtracking on your views that North Korea is a workers'/socialist state, good. Why exactly is its support glorified then? Why is some deluded chap stating that North Korea is a socialist state restricted yet moderators whose organisations send letters to "Comrade Dear Leader" and glorify North Korea as a socialist state not restricted. The moderator on the North Korea thread quite explicitly showed support for that particularly line and refused to provided sources or argue reasonably. For that he should receive the same punishment as the other user.
The restricted poster really had no idea what socialism is; among other things they equated socialism with "no unemployment". And their posts were highly aggressive. Thus, they were restricted. I have never claimed that the DPR Korea is a "socialist state"; as you might have noticed, I am a Bolshevik-Leninist and think that the M-L theory of "socialism in one state" is absolute nonsense. It is rather telling that you can't tell the difference between Trotskyism and "Stalinism". Again, you don't want consistency. As you admitted one message ago, you want to appear "respectable" to the liberals. Fair enough. But don't expect anyone else to care about that, and stop trying to force your support for liberals on this site.
If you revisit the DPR Korea thread, you'll see that the first person to call North Korea a socialist state was restricted. Why should he be restricted and not other North Korea supporters? I won't waste my time responding to the usual Stalinist drivel that surrounds your fundamental claim that NK is a socialist state. I do not want you or anybody else banned or restricted, I want consistency.
Others, including my 'umble self, hold that the DPR Korea is a workers' state due to the nationalised, planned economy, the monopoly on foreign trade, the absence of other social classes etc. This is besides the point. The point being that most of the members here couldn't care less about your "credibility". We don't want to cozy up to the liberals; we want the liberals to go to hell. If you want to fawn over the liberals and tail their reactionary policies, you're free to do so. But stop trying to fit the entire forum in your CPUSA-issue straightjacket.
Members can be banned for revealing personal information, trolling, general disruptive behaviour, misogyny (except "pro-life" flakes, which is an exception I oppose), homophobes, racists or fascist. I fail to grasp how any of this is "far less" than being a Jucheist. Jucheists are not banned, they are restricted. That said, there are no Jucheists on this site. No active member supports the ideology of Juche or Kimilsungism. Certain members support the DPR Korea as a socialist state, but this does not mean that they support the official ideology (it only means that they support the material conditions that exist in Korea). (continued)
Jucheism is not a workers', a Marxist or a leftist ideology. People on here get banned for far less than being a Jucheist. And the official moderator policy is to restrict Jucheists. Why hasn't this been put into effect? And my "crusade" on Jucheism is because the support of it by certain members really undermines the credibility of many revolutionaries on here. I do not want the revolutionary left to be associated with sympathisers of a xenophobic, militarist dictatorship than doesn't even ercognise Marxism or any kind of Marxist theory anymore. You're welcome to argue in what way North Korea is a socialist or workers' state.
If you really want to report someone for holding that the DPR Korea is a workers' state, report me. Or is this little anti-"Jucheist" (in case you haven't noticed, there are no Jucheists on RevLeft) crusade of yours restricted to empty threats and blustering?
