Conversation Between Psy and bcbm

  1. bcbm
    cool story bro
  2. Yes that would be an example of overreacting, viewing someone as hopeless simply for having a view you happen to disagree with over a minor issue. It is overreactions like this that creates the leftist circular firing squad where we can't even deal differences among other on the left let along the rest of the proletariat.
  3. bcbm
    you're hopeless
  4. How was it kept in perspective? We are talking about the censorship of a word when the left is divided on even the issue of censorship itself. It turned into of a issue of those that don't agree with the censorship of the word is a counter-revolutionary that was not even the intention of the censorship of the word on Revleft.

    I bought up Tony Cliff as it is impossible to communicate with the proletariat at large if we overreact over such minor disagreements of terminology.
  5. bcbm
    it has been in perspective the entire time, you're the one talking about tony cliff and building proletarian consciousness or whatever the fuck
  6. Yes we are talking about Revleft so keep it in perspective.
  7. bcbm
    we're talking about revleft not "the entire left movement."
  8. No what we got is people getting offended at the drop of a hat with Khad stating it in proper English (and dictionaries still classify it as proper English) is worse then used in slang.

    Revleft has banned the word but that ban has not been implemented throughout the entire left movement, people seem to forget that Revleft is not the center of the left and the left doesn't instantly follow what ever Revleft decides on collectively.

    Not all leftists believe in censorship even censorship as minor as banning words. Now Revleft has the right to ban the word but that does not mean everyone in the world has to follow suit.
  9. bcbm
    "freak" as used colloquially is nowhere near as bad a pejorative as "retard." i believe khad already explained why this is.

    "Even in the event that such denouncements are in bad taste most mature parties simply accept the well meaning then go into why while it was well meaning in bad taste from the point of view of the party's standpoint that is because as Tony Cliff pointed out you don't bring class consciousness by simply denouncing members of the proletariat you don't agree with and refusing to work with them."

    like the multiple members who, with varying degrees of patience, have tried to explain to you why "retarded" is not an acceptable word to use? what is tony cliff's advice for dealing with stubborn dipshits?
  10. Freak means at its worse "An abnormally formed organism, especially a person or animal regarded as a curiosity or monstrosity."

    So you telling me calling people a curiosity or monstrosity is not as bad?

    Just because you are stating deficiencies in a organization doesn't mean you are being discriminatory to everyone with those deficiencies. If it did a lot of revolutionaries would be guilty of such as it is not uncommon on the left to denounce capitalists through calling them deficient in some way. Even in the event that such denouncements are in bad taste most mature parties simply accept the well meaning then go into why while it was well meaning in bad taste from the point of view of the party's standpoint that is because as Tony Cliff pointed out you don't bring class consciousness by simply denouncing members of the proletariat you don't agree with and refusing to work with them.
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