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CHEtheLIBERATOR
21st January 2009, 02:15
How would you describe your philosophy and then your government?
For me it's 75% trotskyist 20% orthodox marxist and 5% marxist-leninist.
And my government would be democratic communism
Rosa Lichtenstein
21st January 2009, 02:40
Che, what you describe is not Philosophy.
CHEtheLIBERATOR
21st January 2009, 06:41
how so.Im sorry wrong words more like political orientation
JohnnyC
21st January 2009, 07:47
I'm a Left Communist with sympathies for Anarcho-Communism and Anarcho-Syndicalism.
And my government would be democratic communism
In communism there is no government, and, of course communism is democratic by nature. ;)
MarxSchmarx
21st January 2009, 07:53
how so.Im sorry wrong words more like political orientation
No harm, you have a normative prescription of sorts for the wrongs of th world.
I would suggest thinking about not only the ethical implications of your views, but also the logical, metaphysical, and epistemological implications. Once you've made sense of all of that within your political framework, why, you've got a working philosophy :)
lombas
21st January 2009, 10:31
Blend of 60% absurdism, 30% existentialism (including existential phenomelogy) and 10% pessimism.
Forward Union
21st January 2009, 11:09
Im 100% Materialist, Athiest etc. Firm support of the scientific process. I have no philosophical outlook beyond what is known.
Politically im 100% Communist
Cunning_plan
21st January 2009, 11:36
Politically I am a socialist. Due to my high green agenda I have passing moments of authoritarianism though! I cannot categorise myself as highly as many seem to be able to due to conflicting agendas.
Philosophy... Not sure it's so easily quantifiable...
Rosa Lichtenstein
21st January 2009, 14:24
This should be in Learning, then -- or perhaps Chit Chat.
benhur
21st January 2009, 14:30
Che, what you describe is not Philosophy.
It's political philosophy, but philosophy just the same.
Rosa Lichtenstein
21st January 2009, 18:54
BenHur:
It's political philosophy, but philosophy just the same.
Depends what you mean by 'philosophy'.
Hit The North
21st January 2009, 18:57
It's not strictly philosophy but I'm going to keep it in the Philosophy forum. It'll make a change from Rosa and Gil knocking lumps out of each other. :)
Rosa Lichtenstein
21st January 2009, 20:15
And your reasons for this are...?
gilhyle
21st January 2009, 21:23
......I'm going to keep it in the Philosophy forum. It'll make a change from Rosa and Gil knocking lumps out of each other. :)
Change is possible.....as the parking charges machine in my local shopping centre tells me every week .......now that is philosophy:rolleyes:
Hit The North
21st January 2009, 23:31
And your reasons for this are...?
I'm feeling nice.
Decolonize The Left
22nd January 2009, 00:02
Im 100% Materialist, Athiest etc. Firm support of the scientific process. I have no philosophical outlook beyond what is known.
Politically im 100% Communist
I'll second this extremely concise and well-phrased (albeit poorly spelled) statement.
I'd also add that "Politically I'm 100% Communist/Anarchist."
- August
Kassad
22nd January 2009, 01:41
I am Kassad. Marxist-Leninist; anti-revisionist; atheist; workers advocate; a vibration in the mind of the one true god who's name is 'love'.
In short, I am the walrus.
LOLseph Stalin
22nd January 2009, 01:59
Trotskyism for the win! Yep, i'm a Trot... :P
Rosa Lichtenstein
22nd January 2009, 02:28
Gil:
Change is possible.....as the parking charges machine in my local shopping centre tells me every week .......now that is philosophy
Maybe so, but we both know that dialectics cannot explain it when it happens.
BTB:
I'm feeling nice.
And look where that has got us; this thread has turned into Chit Chat!
h0lmes
22nd January 2009, 03:23
My ideal world would be libertarian socialist and atheist.
WhitemageofDOOM
23rd January 2009, 06:34
90% materialist(can't eliminate that last 10% sadly.), 100% pro-science, 100% utilitarian.
Politics? Whatever gets people more food, happiness, and leisure. Everything else i could care less about. If the bourgeois own everything but everyone has everything they can want and no one has to work, I'm ok with that. I'm also ok with a communist utopia as long as everyone can get whatever they want and no one has to work.
LOLseph Stalin
23rd January 2009, 06:40
Politics? Whatever gets people more food, happiness, and leisure. Everything else i could care less about. If the bourgeois own everything but everyone has everything they can want and no one has to work, I'm ok with that. I'm also ok with a communist utopia as long as everyone can get whatever they want and no one has to work.
Nobody working would be impossible. Nothing would get produced. If you're thinking about work being a terrible thing, it is under Capitalism. In Communism there would be more freedom as to which career path you want to take. With Capitalism, you have uneducated people in minimum wage jobs because it's the only thing they can get. You think they like it? Of course not. Unfortunately they can't afford education to get a job they enjoy. That's another problem Communism solves. Anyway, the moral of the story is that work should be fun!
WhitemageofDOOM
23rd January 2009, 06:47
Nobody working would be impossible. Nothing would get produced. If you're thinking about work being a terrible thing, it is under Capitalism. In Communism there would be more freedom as to which career path you want to take. With Capitalism, you have uneducated people in minimum wage jobs because it's the only thing they can get. You think they like it? Of course not. Unfortunately they can't afford education to get a job they enjoy. That's another problem Communism solves. Anyway, the moral of the story is that work should be fun!
If i wanted to do it, it wouldn't be work now would it?
When i say "i want work to end" I'm saying "i want no one to do stuff they don't want to do for mere upkeep.", the reason someone should pursue some activity is because that's what they want to spend there time on.;)
ev
23rd January 2009, 15:11
100% universal
LOLseph Stalin
23rd January 2009, 19:11
If i wanted to do it, it wouldn't be work now would it?
When i say "i want work to end" I'm saying "i want no one to do stuff they don't want to do for mere upkeep.", the reason someone should pursue some activity is because that's what they want to spend there time on.http://www.revleft.com/vb/would-you-describe-p1338202/revleft/smilies/wink.gif
Well yes, "work" isn't work if you actually enjoy what you're doing.
Revolutionary Youth
24th January 2009, 19:34
Marxist-Leninist, Anti-theist, Anti-Fascist, Aristotelian, Commie Youth Activist (used to, now in Singapore, I'm stuck!)
Brother No. 1
24th January 2009, 21:40
50% Marxist-Leninist-Maoist and 50% Soviet
Philosophical Materialist
25th January 2009, 01:16
Marxist, atheist, materialist, anthropocentric, and transhumanist.
Raúl Duke
25th January 2009, 03:16
Anarcho-Communism with Marxian influences and a soft-spot for Left-Communists and Technocrats.
On philosophy, well I suppose it's indescribable. I tend not to label myself in terms of philosophy and tend not to think about it much, don't see much importance, unless I get into a discussion into it because of someone else.
I suppose I could say I'm a materialist (or "physicalist" but most people using the term materialist mean this other one anyway so I just use the common meaning) and maybe been influence somewhat by Rosa's stuff. I dislike a priori knowledge.
ZeroNowhere
25th January 2009, 14:46
Materialist, Marxist-De Leonist (pretty much, though with some small alterations here and there, anti-patriotism, and left-commie influence on internationalism) of the libertarian kind, anti-schooler, agnostic atheist, naturalist, and currently leaning strongly towards Wittgensteinianism.
Hit The North
26th January 2009, 14:10
What is an agnostic atheist?
Rosa Lichtenstein
26th January 2009, 14:54
^^^ Yes the term seems about as clear as 'dialectical contradiction'.
ZeroNowhere
26th January 2009, 15:29
What is an agnostic atheist?
An atheist is somebody who lacks a belief in a god. An agnostic atheist is one that doesn't have faith that there is surely no god either.
So basically, in terms of the celestial teapot, you can't know that it doesn't exist, but people wouldn't believe it.
^^^ Yes the term seems about as clear as 'dialectical contradiction'.
:D
Coggeh
26th January 2009, 16:51
I'm a science nerd (well a learning one).Science has been forever searching , theorizing ,learning and constantly testing .Logic and reason have been and always will be what drives humanity further .
I have a 0% spiritual side .
99.99999% science /trotskyist
00.00001% Pet lover :) lol
Hit The North
26th January 2009, 22:12
An atheist is somebody who lacks a belief in a god. An agnostic atheist is one that doesn't have faith that there is surely no god either.
So basically, in terms of the celestial teapot, you can't know that it doesn't exist, but people wouldn't believe it.
Sorry but that just makes you an agnostic.
Originally posted by Rosa Lichtenstein
^^^ Yes the term seems about as clear as 'dialectical contradiction'.
To you, perhaps.
Rosa Lichtenstein
26th January 2009, 22:20
BTB:
To you, perhaps.
And I am in good company, since not one of you mystics can explain it, even though you lot have been asked many times.
And, in this you lot are not alone either; I have left messages on socialist and Marxist forums and blogs all across the planet over the last 3 years, all with the same result. Silence or abuse.
I and several of the supporters of my site have written to Socialist Worker, Socialist Review and the ISJ (along with other publications) and asked for an explanation. Deafening silence.
And these comrades are not alone, too; I have yet to see a clear explanation of this obscure term in a single book or article on dialectics, and I have read literally hundreds (most of which were mind-numbingly repetitive).
If you know of one, perhaps you can share it with us.
[Sounds of breath not being held in anticipation...]
AIM Correspondent
26th January 2009, 22:31
I am Antiimperialist :D
Hit The North
26th January 2009, 23:10
Rosa, I know you're desperate to inject a bit of content into this otherwise meaningless and dreary thread, but you'll have to pick a fight with someone else. :)
Holden Caulfield
27th January 2009, 01:14
amateur existentialist
Rosa Lichtenstein
27th January 2009, 02:47
BTB:
Rosa, I know you're desperate to inject a bit of content into this otherwise meaningless and dreary thread, but you'll have to pick a fight with someone else.
Indeed, like other dialectical warriors, you turn tail.
ZeroNowhere
27th January 2009, 03:16
Sorry but that just makes you an agnostic.
Correct, as well as an atheist, which is why the term came about. And?
Sarah Palin
30th January 2009, 22:44
Politically, I'm a socialist, but I sympathize with Marxist and Anarcho-Syndicalist plights.
I would say I'm a Trotskyist, but I think the phrase was created by Stalin's government to alienate Trotsky.
On spirituality, I'm an atheist, much preferring science.
obsolete discourse
1st February 2009, 11:12
I believe the philosophical canon I am most attached to is post-structuralism (ethics) and non-dialectical materialism (ontology). I think Deleuze and Guattari and Giorgio Agamben in particular best locate my theoretical desires for a ontology of becoming (which improves on Heiddeger's Being/Event) but Agamben better than D&G at proving this is without any telos.
al8
1st February 2009, 17:50
ZeroNowhere is correct in his usage of agnostic atheist. For he is using the words in their strict sense not their wider sense. There are;
Gnostic theists
Agnostic theists
Agnostic atheists
Gnostic atheists.
Theist=belief in a deity
Atheist=non-belief in a deity
Agnostic=does not know (for sure)
Gnostic= knows (for sure)
I am a gnostic atheist, for not only is the case for a deities existence extremely wack, but historically it can be observed how the entire notion of a god is an anthroposentric and complete fabrication promoted by a parasitic support class of the powerful; the clergy. To me this is as clear as day, looking at historical evidence, there is no God, I do not merely not belive in one, I know there isn't one.
Bilan
2nd February 2009, 12:40
Marxian Syndicalist.
Marxist analysis, syndicalist practice.
Internationalist.
Sympathetic to left communism.
ÑóẊîöʼn
3rd February 2009, 17:52
I'd describe my philosophy, but I have no idea where to start.
God? There's no evidence at all for any kind of supernatural intelligence(s). There could well be beings of entirely natural origin that are so potent that we would consider them gods, but otherwise I rule out the possibility.
Free will? Doesn't exist, but for practical reasons we usually operate under the assmuption that it does. Hopefully there's some way of resolving this fundamental contradiction in a satisfactory manner.
Anything else?
ZeroNowhere
4th February 2009, 16:24
Free will? Doesn't exist, but for practical reasons we usually operate under the assmuption that it does. Hopefully there's some way of resolving this fundamental contradiction in a satisfactory manner.
Which is rather harmful. After all, why not sacrifice this 'useful illusion' and go for a scientific understanding of crime that can help minimize it, and help with rehabilitation? After all, 'free will' does lead to people arguing for worse prisons, and it's quite likely that worse prison conditions fuck people up more, and they certainly don't 'deserve' it for any reason. Ehm, anyways.
ÑóẊîöʼn
5th February 2009, 10:12
Which is rather harmful. After all, why not sacrifice this 'useful illusion' and go for a scientific understanding of crime that can help minimize it, and help with rehabilitation? After all, 'free will' does lead to people arguing for worse prisons, and it's quite likely that worse prison conditions fuck people up more, and they certainly don't 'deserve' it for any reason. Ehm, anyways.
That would help, but the idea of free will goes beyond merely crime.
Comrade Anarchist
5th February 2009, 21:29
politically: 100% anarcho-communist
belief: 100% atheist
meaning of life beliefs: 70% nihilist, 30% existentialist
robbo203
5th February 2009, 22:05
BTB:
And I am in good company, since not one of you mystics can explain it, even though you lot have been asked many times.
And, in this you lot are not alone either; I have left messages on socialist and Marxist forums and blogs all across the planet over the last 3 years, all with the same result. Silence or abuse.
I and several of the supporters of my site have written to Socialist Worker, Socialist Review and the ISJ (along with other publications) and asked for an explanation. Deafening silence.
And these comrades are not alone, too; I have yet to see a clear explanation of this obscure term in a single book or article on dialectics, and I have read literally hundreds (most of which were mind-numbingly repetitive).
If you know of one, perhaps you can share it with us.
[Sounds of breath not being held in anticipation...]
Have you tried this one http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/pdf/hm.pdf
Holden Caulfield
6th February 2009, 15:34
70% nihilist,
:confused:
NecroCommie
6th February 2009, 17:44
I am convinced at the Marx's theory of historical materialism, and Lenins teachings of a working revolutionary movement. So you could say I am 50% marxist 50% leninist. Thus I am Marxist-Leninist. (To a certain degree)
I do not believe in good or evil (or more accurately, I believe that good and evil are subjective) And I do not believe in god. I do however hold the laws of nature and cosmos in a godlike status. I also use teachings of Lenin as an object for my "rituals" and devotion, for despite being strictly scientific and non-idealistic in my beliefs, I happen to be quite ritualistic and spiritual. :confused: I also seem to slightly tilt towards thoughts of predetermination.
And as for this topic belonging to philosophy... Ofcourse this belongs here. My philosophy teacher tought me that there are three schools of philosophy: Ethics, aesthetics, and society. If this does not belong to society philosophy then what does? I have always thought of communism and anarchism being more about philosophy than politics. Our politics just happen to be completely influenced by our philosophy.
I deny the existence of difference between countries. I do however accept the differences between cultures, and the fact that these cultures affect the governments of these countries. The existence of cultural differences does not justify inequality between cultures, for (as I said earlier) I do not believe in good and evil, therefore different cultural qualities are neither good or evil.
I deny the authority of parlamentiary governments because all my rights are earned by united workers front, not by some vague idea about "unified" Finland. Therefore I have no duties for Finland (or any other government) but only for united workers front. If we had asked the right wing, all my rights would have been ripped away the first chance they got (a historical fact, just look what the right wing fought for in the 1800's)
As for the reason of life? None, or whatever you wish. We were created out of a slime concisting carbon-hydrates in a primordial puddle, what did you expect? Though I think this fact makes life all the more beautiful ( I am a hopeless romantic) in a gothic way.
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