The IRSP and the form of Socialism.

[PeaderO'Donnell]

Greetings,

Do the IRSP have any clear official statements on the form that they believe Socialism should take? If not what form do the majiority of its leadership and members believe it will take?

Is the IRSP OFFICIALLY Marxist or Marxist-Leninist?

Thank you.

[PRC-UTE]

from the 2004 Ard Fheis (party congress)


WHAT WE STAND FOR 1. Ard-Fheis reaffirms that the IRSP is a republican socialist party influenced by the writings of Tone, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Connolly, Mellows, Costello, and Power. [Cork]



11. Ard-Fheis recognises the achievements of the Cuban, Vietnamese, and Venezualan revolutions and that these be presented as reasons that socialism can work. [L. O'Ruairc]


Minimum Programme
a) The nationalisation of all banks and an end to what could be described as a rehashed laissez faire (under monetarism and the free market) thus allowing more government intervention in the economy.
b) The nationalisation of all major industry, indigenous and multinational, with no compensation to the present owners, domestic or foreign, thus helping guarantee job security for the workers.
c) Narrowing of pay differentials between higher and lower paid workers upwardly. Tax increases earmarked for health, housing, education, etc.
Maximum Revolutionary Programme
a) A planned economy based on economic planning of the production of goods and services for the needs of the population and not the greed and profits for a few entrepreneurs.
b) Workers' ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange which will be aimed at the provision of goods and services of the highest standard. All positions of managerial responsibility to be filled by election and subject to recallable accountability, thus reducing the possibility and scope for abuse of power. [Bray]


http://irsm.org/irsp/ardfheis/2004/

at other ard fheiseanna the maximum programme was explained in more detail, and it called for a system of councils similar to soviets.

I wouldn't call it officially M-L, but influenced by that, by "actual existing socialism". the IRSP is close to Cuba for instance.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Comrade, methinks the IRSP needs to have an expanded minimum and maximum program. :(

http://www.workers-party.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=62 (or something similar to my draft program)

[davidasearles]

Comrade, methinks the IRSP needs to have an expanded minimum and maximum program.

Actually I have seen very little evidence of such (of thought or an analysis of the needs of the ISRP)

[PRC-UTE]

Comrade, methinks the IRSP needs to have an expanded minimum and maximum program. :(

http://www.workers-party.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=62 (or something similar to my draft program)

what purpose would it serve? just for the sake of having one? I think it's only relevant to an electoral campaign.the IRSP's position and activism on housing rights, and the IRSP's work with Peggy O'Hara's electoral campaign could be described as something like a minimum programme.

a lot of work by our members has been fairly localised and dealing with community issues. it would be difficult (or more accurately: awkward) from that to draw up a blanket minimum programme. different areas need different approaches relevant to that region/district, etc. it makes more sense to channel localised work into a maximum programme for anti imperialism and proletarian revolution.

[Die Neue Zeit]

what purpose would it serve? just for the sake of having one? I think it's only relevant to an electoral campaign.the IRSP's position and activism on housing rights, and the IRSP's work with Peggy O'Hara's electoral campaign could be described as something like a minimum programme.

a lot of work by our members has been fairly localised and dealing with community issues. it would be difficult (or more accurately: awkward) from that to draw up a blanket minimum programme. different areas need different approaches relevant to that region/district, etc. it makes more sense to channel localised work into a maximum programme for anti imperialism and proletarian revolution.

Comrade, as you've read from my work, technically the anti-imperialism and "proletarian revolution" (workers' power only per se, NOT your two-point maximum programme) stuff should be the core of the Republican Socialist minimum programme (communism being the maximum). Please consider my quotations of Mike Macnair in this thread (explaining how housing rights and your Peggy O'Hara's electoral campaign are "the use of selected elements of the minimum programme"):

http://www.revleft.com/vb/transitional-program-updated-t99491/index.html

And also these videos (whenever you have time):

http://csukblog.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/debating-the-marxist-programme-videos-from-communist-university-north/

For example, I am currently analyzing the demand for "full freedom of class-strugglist assembly and association - free from anti-employment reprisals, police agents such as agents provocateurs, and formal political disenfranchisement." Trust me: the programmatic impact of this "individual" demand is MUCH bigger than the traditional Marxist opinion on the subject.