Reactionary Chatter IV - The Revleft Chainstore Massacre

[Jazzratt]

This is the thread for offtopic comments and so on, should you want to make them.

Sorry for uninspired OP, but I'm tired.

[RedAnarchist]

In b4 OI'ers.

[Red October]

In b4 OI'ers.

Seconded, all your reactionary chatter are belong to revleft.

[Bud Struggle]

Seconded, all your reactionary chatter are belong to revleft.

If you haven't noticed:

OI OWNS RevLeft. OI is the tail that is wagging the RevLeft dog. I bet if we had TomK tee shirts they'd outsell the Che ones. :D

Anyway thanks Jazzratt, you are a pretty decent Mod.

Much appreciated.

Tom

[danyboy27]

a gift for all OIer!!!!!!

the OI social club!!!
http://socialprogressive.forumotion.net

yup! this is for you guy!!!

[Red October]

If you haven't noticed:

OI OWNS RevLeft. OI is the tail that is wagging the RevLeft dog. I bet if we had TomK tee shirts they'd outsell the Che ones. :D

Anyway thanks Jazzratt, you are a pretty decent Mod.

Much appreciated.

Tom

How about converting your factory into TomK t-shirt production? Or reprinting cheesy lesbian novels?

[apathy maybe]

First page post.

Capitalists are scum, leftists are cool, and we rock your world.

[Killfacer]

Damn, i got a pretty quick post in on the last one, but i guess that's when i was locked in here.

Keep up the good work. FREE COAL!

[Dóchas]

we should make a group for all the OI OI OI sockpuppets :p

[Bud Struggle]

If we (me included) can hold off on our preening, I have a question: hwat songs do you Commies and Unioners sing at meeting.

I'm thinking (like a Capitlaist, I guess) that we should put together a Commie, or at least a leftist song book--all the songs fit to sing at a commie "event."

Maybe we could do an album of Leftist songs--Rasco can sing if if she so chooses. It might be a nice gift.

Or ever...dare I say it? A Commie karaoke tape? I should get together with the Rheingraf von Malte and see if we could revitalize the "Che" franchise. :thumbup1:

[Pogue]

If we (me included) can hold off on our preening, I have a question: hwat songs do you Commies and Unioners sing at meeting.

I'm thinking (like a Capitlaist, I guess) that we should put together a Commie, or at least a leftist song book--all the songs fit to sing at a commie "event."

Maybe we could do an album of Leftist songs--Rasco can sing if if she so chooses. It might be a nice gift.

Or ever...dare I say it? A Commie karaoke tape? I should get together with the Graf von Malte and see if we could revitalize the "Che" franchise. :thumbup1:

TomK in response to you asking what I personally sing in general, alot of things. I like Hip Hop, that sort of quick and rhythmical style, but I usually do it in parodies and for comedic effect because I'm not genuinely talented.

I sing alot of old socialist songs like bread and roses, classics which remain true today. Especially The Internationale and A Las Barricadas, as well as Irish folk songs, which are my speciality, Rebel Music is my favourite which is like a sub genre of Irish folk. Songs like "Some Say The Devil Is Dead."

I'm better with the Irish folk, its almost listenable. Not that I record or anything. Then theres chants on political protests and football matches, which are my favourite, humerous banter/chants.

At meetings it tends to be The Internationale. With friends we sing whatever, sometimes anti-racist songs.

[Bud Struggle]

TomK in response to you asking what I personally sing in general, alot of things. I like Hip Hop, that sort of quick and rhythmical style, but I usually do it in parodies and for comedic effect because I'm not genuinely talented.

I sing alot of old socialist songs like bread and roses, classics which remain true today. Especially The Internationale and A Las Barricadas, as well as Irish folk songs, which are my speciality, Rebel Music is my favourite which is like a sub genre of Irish folk. Songs like "Some Say The Devil Is Dead."

I'm better with the Irish folk, its almost listenable. Not that I record or anything. Then theres chants on political protests and football matches, which are my favourite, humerous banter/chants.

At meetings it tends to be The Internationale. With friends we sing whatever, sometimes anti-racist songs.

Thank you, I was just--as in the creases are still in my fingertips from the guitar strings--singing Cold Play's Viva la Vida.

I want to look into old protest and Commie and union songs. I find them pretty all interesting. If you don't mind I'll look up some of the songs you mentioned.

[Red October]

If we (me included) can hold off on our preening, I have a question: hwat songs do you Commies and Unioners sing at meeting.

I'm thinking (like a Capitlaist, I guess) that we should put together a Commie, or at least a leftist song book--all the songs fit to sing at a commie "event."

Maybe we could do an album of Leftist songs--Rasco can sing if if she so chooses. It might be a nice gift.

Or ever...dare I say it? A Commie karaoke tape? I should get together with the Rheingraf von Malte and see if we could revitalize the "Che" franchise. :thumbup1:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red_Songbook

[Rascolnikova]

If we (me included) can hold off on our preening, I have a question: hwat songs do you Commies and Unioners sing at meeting.

I'm thinking (like a Capitlaist, I guess) that we should put together a Commie, or at least a leftist song book--all the songs fit to sing at a commie "event."

Maybe we could do an album of Leftist songs--Rasco can sing if if she so chooses. It might be a nice gift.

Or ever...dare I say it? A Commie karaoke tape? I should get together with the Rheingraf von Malte and see if we could revitalize the "Che" franchise. :thumbup1:

hmn.

Believe it or not, I was mostly just trying to get RTG to post his links. .. which I think are a lot better than mine. I sing all the time, mostly for the benefit of my cat. . . I'm merely shameless, which should not be mistaken for career aspirations. :)

But, I'm pretty curious about how everybody else sounds, especially (now) HLVS. . .


And as a side note, I find it most appropriate that the local catholic wants to put together a hymnal. :)

[Bud Struggle]

hmn.

Believe it or not, I was mostly just trying to get RTG to post his links. .. which I think are a lot better than mine. I sing all the time, mostly for the benefit of my cat. . . I'm merely shameless, which should not be mistaken for career aspirations. :)

I think your links are REALLY interesting. Barbie Girl expecially ;)

I'd put up me singing a "protest song" if you will. :)


And as a side note, I find it most appropriate that the local catholic wants to put together a hymnal. :)

Aside from the politics of Communism--I'm particularly interested in the "culture" of Communism. I'm interested in American Communist culture in particular, how they translated Democratic Capitalistic America of the 30's-60's into a Communist ideal before the New Left took over. And I'm interested in how they translated that culture into art. (Pre Bob Dylan.)

[Bud Struggle]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red_Songbook

EXACTLY 100 years too late! :(

Thank for the link.

[Edit] GREAT STUFF!!!!

http://www.musicanet.org/robokopp/iww.html

[Rascolnikova]

I think your links are REALLY interesting. Barbie Girl expecially ;)

I love that song. . . and I love that Mattel tried to sue the original band that did it. . . and I love that they lost. . .:lol:

World needs more feminist commentary. :)

Disclaimer, though, on the playlist--it's what I listen to (read, sing along with) around the house, and--when possible--is edited often. Doesn't accurately reflect my musical taste generally, represents what was worth listening to again. Also, project playlist doesn't have enough indie or classical for me.



I'd put up me singing a "protest song" if you will. :)

Hey, I already posted a link. It was fun, but it's someone else's turn.
:)


Aside from the politics of Communism--I'm particularly interested in the "culture" of Communism. I'm interested in American Communist culture in particular, how they translated Democratic Capitalistic America of the 30's-60's into a Communist ideal before the New Left took over. And I'm interested in how they translated that culture into art. (Pre Bob Dylan.)
leave it to tom to turn radical communism into lifestyle politics. . .

[Robert]

Well, the cosmic moment for Grey Poupon has passed, but I'm a man of my word, Rasco.

Here's the closest thing I have to a paean to capitalism: Vienna Sausage Jelly, performed and composed by me. Play it in HiFi to enjoy all the subtle pork flavoring.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=4604752

[Rascolnikova]

Well, the cosmic moment for Grey Poupon has passed, but I'm a man of my word, Rasco.

Here's the closest thing I have to a paean to capitalism: Vienna Sausage Jelly, performed and composed by me. Play it in HiFi to enjoy all the subtle pork flavoring.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=4604752


Thank you. As a vegetarian, I'm all about subtle pork flavoring. :)

[Kronos]

I am still restricted and therefore I'm posting this response to Gilhyle here:


The will exists, a phenomenon of formulating intentions prior to acting. It does not universally apply. Often we act without a prior, distinguishable process of intent formulation.

If this will existed (and it does not), then it would certainly "apply universally", or else you would have to assert that some people don't have the "phenomena of formulating intentions prior to acting", and in doing so, you would be speaking of a person who was fundamentally different that yourself...in which case you could not know if they had a "will" or not.

Also, there are countless causes which give rise to the effects, to our behavior, that elude our awareness. So the fact is we can never distinguish between "choice" and "caused action" except in the sense that what we think is evidence of a "choice" is the act of thinking to oneself and deciding to act. One thinks "I want to go to the kitchen", and does, but it isn't just that thought that made it possible to do so. There are a host of other causes, without which, you could not think "I want to go to the kitchen".

There are some serious issues with the way philosophers use the terms "mind", "consciousness", and "will", by the way.

[Bud Struggle]

I am still restricted and therefore I'm posting this response to Gilhyle here:



If this will existed (and it does not), then it would certainly "apply universally", or else you would have to assert that some people don't have the "phenomena of formulating intentions prior to acting", and in doing so, you would be speaking of a person who was fundamentally different that yourself...in which case you could not know if they had a "will" or not.

Also, there are countless causes which give rise to the effects, to our behavior, that elude our awareness. So the fact is we can never distinguish between "choice" and "caused action" except in the sense that what we think is evidence of a "choice" is the act of thinking to oneself and deciding to act. One thinks "I want to go to the kitchen", and does, but it isn't just that thought that made it possible to do so. There are a host of other causes, without which, you could not think "I want to go to the kitchen".

There are some serious issues with the way philosophers use the terms "mind", "consciousness", and "will", by the way.

Glad to see you're back. :thumbup1:

You should be unrestricted--you paid your dues. Post over in the "Begging and Pleading" thread--you should have a good shot.

Hope all is well.

[Jazzratt]

You guys have no idea how much I want a pizza.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

What kind?

[Kronos]

Pizza is bourgeois and has been since its inception. Despotic Roman soldiers were the first to make pizza- it was an easy food to prepare on the battlefield while fighting AGAINST HEATHEN ROGUES WHO DIDN'T OWN ANY PROPERTY.

I always knew you were a farce, Jazz.

[Bud Struggle]

I always knew you were a farce, Jazz.

Always with the teenaged angsts, Kronos.:rolleyes:

Anyway--I saw a really GREAT movie last night, it came on TV out of the blue--the Cradle Will Rock by Tim Robbins. Unions, Lenin, all that cool stuff. You Commies might enjoy it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0150216/

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Always with the teenaged angsts, Kronos.:rolleyes:

I reckon he was being humourous... ?

[Pogue]

TomK I already explained - the IWW will not welcome into its ranks the same group/job role which has consistently (even in the present day) attacked our organisation and workers struggles in general worldwide. The police are used against us, thats their role, and they do it often.

[Bud Struggle]

TomK I already explained - the IWW will not welcome into its ranks the same group/job role which has consistently (even in the present day) attacked our organisation and workers struggles in general worldwide. The police are used against us, thats their role, and they do it often.

I understand what you are saying, I'm just not sanguine with it--if anything being a Proletarian should be a TOTALLY egalitarian experience. But I understand that may be your particularly liberal perspective. I think radical Revolutionaries might be more open to different ideas.

Fair enough, I understand where you are comming from.

[Bud Struggle]

I reckon he was being humourous... ?

OK, a bit odd because tomatos came from the New World--and were Columbus, so the Romans never saw them. They never saw pizza.

Romans mostly ate rotten fish (rotted on purpose) and then made into a paste. Nasty stuff.

[Pogue]

I understand what you are saying, I'm just not sanguine with it--if anything being a Proletarian should be a TOTALLY egalitarian experience. But I understand that may be your particularly liberal perspective. I think radical Revolutionaries might be more open to different ideas.

Fair enough, I understand where you are comming from.

I used to be a police apologist, I was even in their youth group, trust me, if you experience th epolice you grow out of the idea of police being friends or comrades

[Kronos]

Frank does it again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKmGinWDqoc

"He's white, Jim..."

Why don't you like me?
Why don't you like me?
Am I really that bad?
HE'S BAD, HE'S BAD
HE'S BAD, HE'S BAD


"I thing you're a jerk! I'm moving from you!"
"Make me a sandwich."
"I'm moving back to Venice."
"I'll be black."
"He's still white, Jim..."


I hate my mother
I hate my father
I am my sister
And Germaine is a negro!
A NEGRO! A NEGRO!
A NEGRO! A NEGRO!


"I thought he looked good -- what happened to you?"
"Please read this pamphlet."
"I'm so BAD!"


You take the monkey, I'll take the llama,
We'll have a party: get me a Pepsi --
Michael is Janet, Janet is Michael --
I'm so confused now --
Who is Diana?


He's oxygenated
His nose is deflated
And he thinks he looks good to you
And he thinks he looks good to you

[Jazzratt]

Split all the stuff about crime and punishment into a new thread (http://www.revleft.com/vb/crime-and-punishment-t99683/index.html).

[Bud Struggle]

Union poster:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/Anti_Communism_by_leandrotr.jpg

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Union poster:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/Anti_Communism_by_leandrotr.jpg

That looks like something the fash would use to be honest.

[#FF0000]

That looks like something the fash would use to be honest.

I think it was used by one of those "SOLIDARITY" unions or something.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

yeah that would make sense.

[RGacky3]

Union poster:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/Anti_Communism_by_leandrotr.jpg

Just because the workers don't want to be beaten by the "peoples stick" (In the form of a Leninst party) does'nt mean they'd prefer the "bosses stick" (in the form of Capitalism. So yeah I agree with that poster, smash the State and the Bosses.

[Bud Struggle]

Unions do not equal Communism--maybe something quite "other".

Actually Unions are something of the opposite from Communism. In a way Unions are uniquely Capitalistic.

[Bud Struggle]

Do you Commies have anytrhing as cute as these guys?

http://www.the5browns.com/

http://hometheaterinfo.com/images/5_browns_2.jpg


:laugh:

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

How the fuck are they cute?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

The girl with brown hair looks like she would rather be somewhere else and has a massive Forehead which you could probably use as a large painting canvas. The guy next to her (with the curly hair) looks like he has discovered nine brand new forms of heroine and injected himself in the neck with them.

The middle one just scares me. Looks abit like something out out alien. The girl next to her looks like those fifty year olds who bathe in make up every day and she seems to be fingering the Alien girl.

And what the fuck is wrong with the guy on the far right's chin it looks as if its had part of it sawn off.

They also look so photo shopped its not funny.

[Bud Struggle]

Interesting books I'm reading:

http://static.flickr.com/63/201572143_bd4fa62129.jpg

http://www.reason.com/UserFiles/Image/0110-artifact.jpg

[Robert]

Tom, if you're at liberty to say, where'd you procure -- I don't say purloin -- "Commie Sex trap"?

Now ask me whether I'd rather read that or Quotations from Mao Tse Tung. Then send me an address or website.

[Bud Struggle]

Tom, if you're at liberty to say, where'd you procure -- I don't say purloin -- "Commie Sex trap"?

Now ask me whether I'd rather read that or Quotations from Mao Tse Tung. Then send me an address or website.

Marxism.org of course! They have an entire section of the Learning section given over to sexy Commie blondshells. :D

[KC]

I haven't seen him on here in forever and never heard if he said he was leaving or just stopped posting.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

I think he got banned.

[Jazzratt]

No he wasn't banned. Presumably he got bored and left. Why did you feel this required it's own thread in a serious subforum KC?

[Pogue]

The girl with brown hair looks like she would rather be somewhere else and has a massive Forehead which you could probably use as a large painting canvas. The guy next to her (with the curly hair) looks like he has discovered nine brand new forms of heroine and injected himself in the neck with them.

The middle one just scares me. Looks abit like something out out alien. The girl next to her looks like those fifty year olds who bathe in make up every day and she seems to be fingering the Alien girl.

And what the fuck is wrong with the guy on the far right's chin it looks as if its had part of it sawn off.

They also look so photo shopped its not funny.

You're right, they look absolutely fucking awful, TomK you have no taste.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I just want to post this real quick:

The Arizona Cardinals are going to the Super Bowl.

If someone had told me they were their pick at week 1, I would have slapped them.

[Vahanian]

The steelers are goona win.

Despite the fact the have the logo of us steel on there helmets

[Killfacer]

C'mon the arsenal.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

http://gunnerrific.com/wallpapers/arsenal_red_gold/arsenal-red-gold-1600-1200.jpg

[Killfacer]

win. I will give you some good rep tommorow.

[Rascolnikova]

I have to say--the "5 browns" crap. . . well, I've generally had enough of cutesy large family music groups to last me a long time, but their Rhapsody in Blue is Nice. :)

I hope it wasn't all five of them. :/

[Bud Struggle]

I have to say--the "5 browns" crap. . . well, I've generally had enough of cutesy large family music groups to last me a long time, but their Rhapsody in Blue is Nice. :)

I hope it wasn't all five of them. :/

See, you love them. Besides after the Revolution music like the Browns' is the only kind the Soviets will approve. :D

[GPDP]

Wait wait wait.

The Revleft Chainstore Massacre?

Come on, considering recent threads, the most logical thread title should've been the Revleft Che-Store Massacre!

[Plagueround]

See, you love them. Besides after the Revolution music like the Browns' is the only kind the Soviets will approve. :D

Screw that. If I can't listen to Aqua I don't want your revolution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRIG1Ngjy2Y

[Robert]

If I can't listen to Aqua I don't want your revolution.

I know you're just joking around there, but a truly committed revolutionary wouldn't have any such pre-conditions. Or even joke about it.

Maybe you need to come on over to the dark side, Plague. You know you're a little uneasy with all this revolution b.s.

Yours cordially,

Robert the Devil

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

The steelers are goona win.

Despite the fact the have the logo of us steel on there helmets

That would be my pick as well...

But I certainly hope not. Larry Fitzgerald is a beast, if anyone can break through that defense it's him.

And dude, never mind the fact that the Steelers use what's also a corporate logo on their helmet. The English Premier League they're discussing is a corporation.

Anyway, I don't know what the hell Arsenal is. All I see is team Fly Emirates :lol: Though the only teams Americans seem to root for are AIG and Samsung. Fucking pisses me off, trendy little *****es. I try to get into it, it's usually the only sports on at the wee hours my time (though the Aussie Open has been on lately), but what holds me back is the fact that it's really just a competition between 3 or 4 teams. Every year, it's one of those teams. And frankly, it's seems like a game for a few billionaires in the midst of underfunded competition.

[Plagueround]

I know you're just joking around there,

Not really. I have a music collection that consists of about 10,000 songs and a few hundred artists ranging anywhere from early folk songs to obscure European industrial...but man, I love Aqua. Great music to dance around the house with the 2 year old too.


but a truly committed revolutionary wouldn't have any such pre-conditions. Or even joke about it.A truly committed revolutionary wouldn't jump head first in to any group that waves a red flag. Hell, I saw a red flag flying over McDonalds...doesn't mean I'm going to kick it with them. :tt2:


Maybe you need to come on over to the dark side, Plague. You know you're a little uneasy with all this revolution b.s.I am indeed uneasy with the fact that, time and time again, the cost of real change on this planet throughout history has been violent revolution...but it's the only way things have happened, it's how it's happening now, and it's likely how it will continue to be. I'm generally a peaceful guy, but I'm also not one to lay down and die once the other side has determined how it's going to go down...as I've said, the ruling class will be the ones to decide whether revolution is violent or not. I'm kind of hopeful perhaps we could pull of a more "civil disobedience" type of deal...but then, I have no crystal ball.

As far as "revoltion b.s.", I hope you're talking about The Revolution (TM) that some people seem to fetishize, and not expecting me to dismiss a scientifically observed phenomenon throughout human history. Even non-marxists have written a great deal on the subject.


Yours cordially,

Robert the DevilIn my rather wild youth, I had a friend tattoo the number 666 over my heart (professional guns, not back alley dirty needle style). I'd kind of like to get it covered with something a bit more eloquent and less confrontational. Perhaps I'll start a fund.

[Killfacer]

Check out my flashy new name. ALL IN CAPS!

[Bud Struggle]

Check out my flashy new name. ALL IN CAPS!

Sooo Freakin' COOL! Where'd you get that name from anyway?

[Killfacer]

Sooo Freakin' COOL! Where'd you get that name from anyway?

Thank fuck for that. It's had a pretty poor reception elsewhere.

It just came to me, an epithany of sorts. A flash of genius i guess.

[Bright Banana Beard]

A black rifle will be enough to become a kill to the facer. I get your epithany.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I'm already missing football. At least the draft is soon.

Congrats to the Steelers, but all I can say is I'm rather disgusted with the 3 fucking dudes covering Santonio Holmes.

[Bud Struggle]

What does this video have to do with police brutality?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_As68KyPjk&feature=related

Just wondering. :)

[Bud Struggle]

Dali--Partial Hallucination Six Apparitions of Lenin On a Grand Piano

http://dali.uffs.net/galerie/pictures/1931_partial_hallucination_six_apparitions_of_leni n_on_a_grand_piano_01.jpg

Six little glowing heads of the Lenin appear on the keyboard. A man sits rigidly in a chair nearby. He wears an arm band and a cloth is pined to his back. It is a very austere scene.

The ants are the musical notes on the sheet music. - - -

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Dali was a fascist.

Which is weird. You'd think the surrealist pioneer would have been anything but a Franco lover.

[Plagueround]

Dali was a fascist.

Which is weird. You'd think the surrealist pioneer would have been anything but a Franco lover.

I was so sad when I found this out. It should come as no surprise that he lost a lot of friends and colleagues over it.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Was he the guy who said something like "Some people take drugs. I am drugs"?

[Kronos]

I bought a Quaker parrot last week and I'm teaching her to talk. Currently she is learning The Communist Manifesto.

[Bud Struggle]

An interesting article on Dali's politics:

http://www.art-for-a-change.com/content/essays/dali.htm

In 1933, instead of condemning Hitler, Dalí painted and exhibited The Enigma of William Tell (http://www.fotos.org/galeria/data/520/3Salvador-Dali-The-Enigma-Of-William-Tell.jpg), a semi-nude portrait of Lenin with a huge anamorphic buttock. The Surrealists saw the painting as a provocation - especially since the Nazis were busy murdering people for being "communists". Dalí defended himself by saying, "No dialectical progress will be possible if one adopts the reprehensible attitude of rejecting and fighting against Hitlerism without trying to understand it as fully as possible." Surrealist misgivings concerning Dalí's political loyalties led him to sign a declaration that he "was not an enemy of the proletariat", but the situation only worsened with the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War.


While the Surrealists and artists worldwide reacted to the outrages of fascism against the Spanish Republic, Dalí painted his Soft Construction with Boiled Beans, a work that many art critics have mistakenly construed as being "antiwar".
Commenting on the canvas, the Philadelphia Museum's promotional material states, "Though Dalí intended this painting as a comment on the horrors of the Spanish Civil War, he did not openly side with the Republic or with the fascist regime. In fact, the painting is one of only a few works by Dalí to deal with contemporary social or political issues. Unlike other Spanish modernists, including Pablo Picasso and Joan Miró, who used their art to make political statements in support of the Spanish Republic, Dalí preferred
to remain apolitical."

[Killfacer]

An interesting article on Dali's politics:

http://www.art-for-a-change.com/content/essays/dali.htm

In 1933, instead of condemning Hitler, Dalí painted and exhibited The Enigma of William Tell (http://www.fotos.org/galeria/data/520/3Salvador-Dali-The-Enigma-Of-William-Tell.jpg), a semi-nude portrait of Lenin with a huge anamorphic buttock. The Surrealists saw the painting as a provocation - especially since the Nazis were busy murdering people for being "communists". Dalí defended himself by saying, "No dialectical progress will be possible if one adopts the reprehensible attitude of rejecting and fighting against Hitlerism without trying to understand it as fully as possible." Surrealist misgivings concerning Dalí's political loyalties led him to sign a declaration that he "was not an enemy of the proletariat", but the situation only worsened with the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War.


While the Surrealists and artists worldwide reacted to the outrages of fascism against the Spanish Republic, Dalí painted his Soft Construction with Boiled Beans, a work that many art critics have mistakenly construed as being "antiwar".
Commenting on the canvas, the Philadelphia Museum's promotional material states, "Though Dalí intended this painting as a comment on the horrors of the Spanish Civil War, he did not openly side with the Republic or with the fascist regime. In fact, the painting is one of only a few works by Dalí to deal with contemporary social or political issues. Unlike other Spanish modernists, including Pablo Picasso and Joan Miró, who used their art to make political statements in support of the Spanish Republic, Dalí preferred
to remain apolitical."


I went to see some of his sculptures at the southbank gallery in London. They were wondeful, but it had a lot about his political ambiguity.

[Bud Struggle]

http://www.fotos.org/galeria/data/520/3Salvador-Dali-The-Enigma-Of-William-Tell.jpg

Lenin's got one big ass in this picture.

[Pirate Utopian]

Bourgeois Anarchist
I read you despise us
Always hurt the one you love
Shit in a drain

[Bud Struggle]

Bourgeois Anarchist
I read you despise us
Always hurt the one you love
Shit in a drain

I love you guys. :wub:

[Pirate Utopian]

:) It's from a PiL song.

[Bud Struggle]

NOT the guitar of the Revolution:

http://www.pantheonguitars.com/images_4/4240%20front_big.jpg

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I bought a Quaker parrot last week and I'm teaching her to talk. Currently she is learning The Communist Manifesto.

Dude that is awesome.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

To celebrate post 1k here is a vagina cake

http://www.eroticbakeryusa.com/EROTIC%20VIRGINA%20WEBS%20copy.jpg

[apathy maybe]

To celebrate post 1k here is a vagina cake

http://www.eroticbakeryusa.com/EROTIC%20VIRGINA%20WEBS%20copy.jpg

Sexist pig.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2169/2504894894_dfa9c809dd.jpg?v=0

http://www.eroticbakeryusa.com/dickcake.htm Nice...

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Weird question.

What's a cuss word that would be edited as b----y? It was from a BBC news English story, and I'm curious. (it wasn't *****y, as that wouldn't have made any sense).

What is this profanity I know not of?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Batty its a homophobic insult.

[RedAnarchist]

Weird question.

What's a cuss word that would be edited as b----y? It was from a BBC news English story, and I'm curious. (it wasn't *****y, as that wouldn't have made any sense).

What is this profanity I know not of?

Bloody, probably. Thats considered a swear word by some people, although it's probably the mildest one.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Ah yes that makes sense. Thanks.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Post 666

I am one with the devil.

But right now it's time to, time to....Kick out the jams motherfuckers!

pyJdEpUH8sw

You know, for 1968 that's pretty forward.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

For all British people who are locked in here for the crime of being a dickhead go to this now (well on the 28th march

http://www.putpeoplefirst.org.uk/whats-happening/

[Kronos]

I'd like to dedicate this one to the master, Wittgenstein....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_X7yKY84SI

[Killfacer]

For all British people who are locked in here for the crime of being a dickhead go to this now (well on the 28th march

http://www.putpeoplefirst.org.uk/whats-happening/

Should be the big one. Although that with that much union attendance it will have numbers but no real action.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Should be the big one. Although that with that much union attendance it will have numbers but no real action.

True but workers are pissed of with the union so this is a golden opportunity.

[Kronos]

Example number 2,657 for why Capitalism is inherently fucked:

I just worked myself out of a job. A Hispanic fellow hired me to help him with renovating an old house. He hired me specifically to install the interior trim in the basement. Now, he had expected the work to take me longer than it did to finish- this is because he is used to the pace that his crew works at. I am nothing like him or his crew. In less than fourteen hours I completed the work, which blew him away.

Now listen.

There are two arrangements which Miquel might have with the owner. Either he is doing the job by "T and M", which means that he is paid a set rate per hour, per man, and is being compensated for the material costs- "Time and Material"- or, he is contracting the job and getting paid per unit...per square foot.

In the former case, Miquel can purposely work his crew at a slow pace so that he continues getting paid by the naive owner- he would be dragging out the job. In the later case, Miquel should find me the most valuable worker because of the fact that I produce at a faster pace than any of his employees. If he is in fact contracting the job, but doesn't want me to continue to work for him, he is contradicting the capitalist principles. By using me, who produces as much as three of his workers, he is cutting costs and making a higher profit. And yet after I finished the trim, he said he had nothing else for me to do. His crew continues to install siding, doors, and other new framing on the house. This is the stuff that I should be doing...if Miquel had any sense.

Therefore, I conclude that he is either stupid....or....he is getting paid T and M....in which case I wouldn't be useful to him because I work so fast.

In either case there is something terribly conflicting with this scenario. In this scenario, either myself or the home owner gets screwed.

This is a problem that only exists in a free market and private business. In a socialist system, things would be quite different. Ranks would be established- somebody like me would not be a subordinate to somebody like Miquel...the inferior carpenter. Nor would somebody with my skill be subjected to working himself out of a job because of the peculiar conditions of the contract. Finding and keeping a job would not be an issue. The state would accommodate me accordingly. There wouldn't be home owners who would get ripped off by contractors who worked on their private property at a purposeful slow pace.

This incident was perfectly inefficient. It is a wonderful example of how screwed up capitalism is.

[Kronos]

In the restrictions thread I undermined the mentality and attitude of the communist with a little help from The Moustache. You will all deny it but you know it to be true. That is okay. I understand.

I want to comment briefly on the two perspectives I have of those who claim to be communists. There are really two kinds of communists- those who have no right to deserve to complain, and those who do...but do so not merely because they are being exploited, as the other type does. Therein lies a unique paradox in the communist; the acceptable communist is aristocratic and elitist by nature. He/she is not equal to the others.

Let me use Rosa as an example. Here is Rosa's deal in a nut shell. She cannot stand to be subordinate to the intellectual inferiors which occupy the capitalist class. Rosa is/was a postal worker. Imagine that. This chick has no business sorting through letters and shit in some humid office complex while easy listening plays on the small radio that sits on the file cabinet next to the coffee machine. Are you kidding me?

This is the difference with Rosa. She is not one of the millions of faceless, worthless lower class cretins who take up the communist banner because a few other people who call themselves communists use big words and sound intelligent to them....so....clearly they must be right....so....clearly the worthless lower class cretin deserves more.

No. Rosa is the mind behind the method. She is not a lackey who bought the Che T-shirt at the head shop.

Rosa is in every sense of the word an aristocrat. She simply would not function correctly in a system which did not afford her an opportunity to hold a high rank in the intelligentsia. She is not a communist for her, as the other communists are for themselves. She is a communist for others. If you prefer, she is the type who would occupy office in a vanguard party...a central ruling elite to which the proletarian class would be subject. The force and breadth of her strength as a revolutionary far exceeds that of the average working classes. She is a leader, not the led.

Now do you see the fundamental difference between the pathos of the communist leader and the communist follower? They are not the same- the former is far more valuable to the movement then any other participant.

This type of communist is the only one that I admire. I have no sympathy for the mindless automaton who complains about capitalism without a thorough understanding of it...or for the proletariat who is no better than the capitalist who exploits him. I support the communist of this sort only because he produces where the capitalist class does nothing but consume. This kind of communist is the lesser of two evils. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.

If you are a communist you better stand out rather than remain invisible in a swarm of ants. Drones are a dime-a-dozen. You don't want to be a drone. Now.....distinguish yourself at once!

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

http://www.jszamora.org/descargas/documentos/carteles/Ejercito%20popular.jpg


Isn't that the most badass piece of propaganda ever?

But seriously, the spanish civil war has the best posters. I don't know how I just found out about this. I am going to Kinkos.

Soon enough my lodging will resemble a POUM recruiting station.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Question:

How does one conversate, regarding the visitor messages one receives on one's profile?

Or is this not available for RESTRICTED folk?

[Kronos]

Your girlfriend is so fat....the ***** went to Sizzlers and got a group discount.

[Kronos]

...and your girlfriend is so ugly....she went into a haunted house and came out with a pay-check.

[Kronos]

Percussionist Ruth Underwood being interviewed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDryzFt37Mo

Ruth plays the script for "St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSmyCuU_pEo

Finally, the studio version of the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzfzsKENCbU

[Kronos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3BuITOx3Cs

We've got tonight, Revleft. Who needs tomorrow.

I'm just beside myself right now. This performance is outstanding. Just listen to the audience explode when Sheena comes on stage.

Who is she wearing? Looks like a costume from Flash Gordon. And her hair. Let's never forget the great eighties, comrades.

[Bud Struggle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3BuITOx3Cs

.


You don't quite know your Sheena Easton, do you bub?

This is her keynote speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4HUPQ0NEU&feature=related

[Kronos]

Pfft. I've got that one on vinyl, eight-track, cassette, CD and Mp3.

In eighty-six I followed Sheena on tour around the country. I saw here twenty-three times in one year.

I've even got the commemorative Sheena Easton limited edition silver plated roller-skates.

You have no idea who you are talking to, bub.

[Kronos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81QDKnV36TE

The intro to this song would be far better if it went like this:

Jacques Lacan
Jacques Lacan
Jacques Lacan, let me rock you
Let me rock you, Jacques Lacan
Let me rock you, that's all I wanna do
Jacques Lacan, let me rock you
Let me rock you, Jacques Lacan
Let me rock you, let me feel for you
Jacques Lacan let me tell you what I wanna do
Do you feel for me, the way I feel for you
Jacques Lacan let me tell you what I wanna do
I wanna love you, wanna hug you, wanna squeeze you too
Let me take you in my arms
Let me fill you with my charms, Jacques
'Cause you know that I'm the one to keep you warm
Jacques, I'll make you more than just a physical dream
I wanna rock you, Jacques
Baby, cause you make me wanna scream
Let me rock you, rock you

http://images.quizilla.com/S/Snowspinner/1069034908_lacan2.jpg

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Never mix drinking with bars.

I popped two after a couple beers at my place...

and woke up the next day in a ditch way on the other side of the city (in fact, I was no longer in the city, but the outskirts of the DFW 'metroplex'). No wallet, no phone, no car (praise allah it was still at my house, along with my wallet and all other valuables). I have no idea what the hell happened.

One of the most surreal experiences of my life I think, waking up in that drainage culvert with no fucking clue were I was. Then finding out I'm in fucking Cleburne (an hour away, at least) left my brain aching, trying to comprehend the situation I found myself in.

Luckily the first house I knocked on was owned by a nice elderly couple who allowed me to use their phone to call a friend, while they also poured me an oh-so-nice cup of the black stuff. I am very grateful for their generosity, and need to grab a gift for them.

One bit of respite was attained by the discovery of someone else's piece and a baggy of good green goo in my pocket. This is my only clue, along with the fact that my wallet has $12 less than what I had before (which tells me the money and bud may be unrelated), as to what the hell I was doing out there.

I'm hoping for a flashback, but I didn't take any 'cid so most likely any recollections of that night are lost forever.

Oh well.

[Bud Struggle]

Hey CC--that OI learning subforum was a great idea. Sometimes the discussion on the other part of the OI board goes off a bit into debate (nothing wrong with that,) but it's nice to have a place to go for just plain answers.

Thanks.

[Kronos]

I watched Grumpy Old Men (or was it Grumpier Old Men) the other night and remembered how much I loved it.

Burgess Meredith is one of a kind. Check this clip out....Burgess at his best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1leLgTr9ytw

"It just goes to show ya, huh"

"What?"

"Huh?"

"Goes to show ya what?"

"Well it just goe.....what the hell are you talking about?"

"Well you said you drink beer, you eat bacon and ya smoke cigarettes and you outlive most of the experts."

"Yeah?"

"I thought maybe there's a moral."

"No there ain't no moral! I just like that story, that's all."

[Bright Banana Beard]

Apparently the picture wont show. :(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KnYb81eQShI/ScMUAamgENI/AAAAAAAAACA/qK03jPqob2s/s1600-h/wow2.JPGhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KnYb81eQShI/ScMUAamgENI/AAAAAAAAACA/qK03jPqob2s/s1600-h/wow2.JPG

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

SXSW just ended.

I wasn't able to go this year :(

[Kronos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Iv_kAjMLk

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/joshgrimes/beavis_and_butthead_headbanging.gif

[Kronos]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/MrAnderson.jpg

"Say, you boys look kinda familiar. Are you the two boys that have been whackin-off in my tool shed?"

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Beavis and Butt-head are not real. They are stupid cartoon people completely made up by this Texas guy who we hardly even know. Beavis and Butt-head are dumb, crude, ugly, thoughtless, sexist, self-destructive fools. But for some reason the little wiener heads make us laugh.

Mike Judge is the shit.

Have you seen Idiocracy?

http://www.bdweb316030.bluedomino.com/kim/nate/idiocracy5.jpg

[Kronos]

http://virtual.clemson.edu/caah/languages/German/Images/nietzsche.jpg

What if Truth is a woman? What then?

[Kronos]

http://triton.imageshack.us/Himg204/scaled.php?server=204&filename=jimihendrixk.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

What if Truth is a foxy lady? What then?"

[Yazman]

Hey CC--that OI learning subforum was a great idea. Sometimes the discussion on the other part of the OI board goes off a bit into debate (nothing wrong with that,) but it's nice to have a place to go for just plain answers.

Thanks.

I'm glad its appreciated; There were some of us who thought it would be good addition, and it seems to have helped :)

[Bud Struggle]

The Learning Forum was deleted--a Communist PLOT no doubt. :cool:

:lol::lol::lol:

[Bud Struggle]

The REVOLUTION will not be televised.

The great Gil-Scott Heron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p43YYovonS0

[Communist Theory]

Ah fuck shit motherfuck!!!!
:cursing:
Agreed?

[RedAnarchist]

The Learning Forum was deleted--a Communist PLOT no doubt. :cool:

:lol::lol::lol:

We realised that you are immune to learning:lol:

[RedAnarchist]

I've removed the anime conversation.

[Robert]

You guys should see the movie Sin Nombre, about Salvadoran immigrants and a personal tragedy growing out of economic and social pressure.

http://angelikafilmcenter.com/angelika_film.asp?hID=7915&ID=5v38072.916237014332z236d.42

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I heard it was good from critics. My friend saw a short film from the same director about a group of immigrants who were transported here in a truck and a bunch of them died enroute. It changed his outlook on everything.

[Bright Banana Beard]

This kind of struggle is barely and rarely heard on USA News. This made me sick in my stomach, I can't bear to see other down just because they doesn't have it. They never have it in first place.

[Bud Struggle]

:cool: HAPPY EASTER everyone! :cool:

[Pirate Utopian]

Have a happy easter.

[Killfacer]

happy easter OIers

[danyboy27]

happy easter you welfare bastard, i am working today!
joking, except for the part i work.

[Killfacer]

happy easter you welfare bastard, i am working today!
joking, except for the part i work.

:lol: It's a bank holiday, of course i'm not working.

[Rascolnikova]

I'm working my 40th hour since midnight on Friday, presently.

[Bud Struggle]

As Catholics we went to church on Thursday, Friday and Saturday (for a 3 1/2 hour mass!) We had a big Easter dinner on Sunday for 18 people. My wife (with some help from me and the children) did all the cooking.

It was so exhausting to watch her do all the cooking I'm taking today off to rest. :D

[Qwerty Dvorak]

I got a Easter egg, yay!

Also my girlfriend and I have been together three years today.

[Bud Struggle]

I got a Easter egg, yay!

Also my girlfriend and I have been together three years today.


Congrats!!! :)

[Communist Theory]

It's just a flesh wound!

[Ele'ill]

Wow, I'm not sure that I was aware that this subforum section even existed.

Have I posted here before?

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

No, you haven't.

[LOLseph Stalin]

I haven't either!

Oh wait...:glare:

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Aaaah, and you were trying so hard too.

All that hard work done for nothing :rolleyes:


Anyway, I found it funny how everyone jumped on RedKnight's thread regarding the Chinese dancer. How about it should have been in Chit Chat, and how it was closed because he didn't understand the purpose of OI.

My guess is he posted it in OI because he is RESTRICTED.

But hey, it's only a guess.

[LOLseph Stalin]

Yes, key word: RESTRICTED.

[Bright Banana Beard]

Oh! I did not know he was RESTRICTED.

[IcarusAngel]

O'reilly claims Nixon never met mao:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200904230010?f=h_latest

Saw this on youtube this morning; conservatives want others to be tortured but will not volunteer to be tortured themselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sm8Os3mXv8&feature=haxa_popt00us0d

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjCzfGm0njM

[Bud Struggle]

O'reilly claims Nixon never met mao:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200904230010?f=h_latest

Saw this on youtube this morning; conservatives want others to be tortured but will not volunteer to be tortured themselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sm8Os3mXv8&feature=haxa_popt00us0d

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjCzfGm0njM

IA,

Nice to see you have a human side!!! :D

It's good to sit back and relax a bit with you. I'm know, I know, it's "OI". But, we're human, too. Maybe not in total agreement--but any thinking person wouldn't be in agreement so easily with any "given" philisophy. OK, Bill O'Reilly--bad bad bad, But let's move on.

Say hello!

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

The question is, what would be more satisfying,

A big 'scandal' exposing Hannity or Billo to be a homosexual?

I have to say Hannity. Nobody would ever listen to that prick's hypocrisy again.

Oh it would be soooooooooooooooo sweet.


In Plano (the richest city in the US, or was just a year or two ago) there is this MASSIVE megachurch named Prestonwood that is just a slap in the fucking face, not least because they need cops to direct traffic out of there, whilst they have another exit which has it's own stoplight that will stop everyone on what is a moderately busy street in order to let one car which is waiting leave. Not to mention you have to pay dues to join. Not tithes, dues. (never mind the theology of the new testemant, the whole ye mock the poor with your fine sanctuaries regarding extravagant places of worship, in which Jesus could easily have been talking about this sucker. It's like a McMansion version of the Notre Dame, with a $20m mortgage).

Anyway, a few weeks ago the youth pastor was arrested for getting a little too involved with the kids. I don't know why, I know it's sick and disgusting, but I couldn't help but laugh for hours upon hearing the news.


God I cannot wait for that place to declare bankruptcy. It would be even sweeter than if Hannity and Billo are lovers.

[Pirate Utopian]

I love tuna subs. :closedeyes:

How do you OIers feel about them?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Happy Christmas

[Bright Banana Beard]

Happy Christmas
According to this page: http://isitchristmas.com/
It is not Christmas.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Rulling class lies.



are you hanging up your stocking on your wall
it's the time that every santa has a ball
does he ride a red nosed reindeer
does he turn up on his sleigh
do the farries keep him sober for a day

so here it is merry christmas
everybodies having fun
look to the future now
it's only just begun

are you waiting for your family to arrive
are you sure you've got the room to spare inside
does your granny always tell you
that the old songs are the best
and shes up and rock 'n' rolling with rest

so here it is merry christmas
everybodies having fun
look to the future now
it's only just begun

what will your daddy do when he sees your moma kissing santa, ahaa

are you hanging up your stocking on your wall
are you hoping that the snow will start to fall
do you ride on down the hillside
in a boggy you have made
when you land upon your head
then you will say

so here it is merry christmas
everybodies having fun
look to the future now
it's only just begun
(repeat chorus X4)

[Pirate Utopian]

Glam rock is the music of the revolution. As proven by Slade.

[hugsandmarxism]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQDmnklMJIU

[IcarusAngel]

In Plano (the richest city in the US, or was just a year or two ago) there is this MASSIVE megachurch named Prestonwood that is just a slap in the fucking face, not least because they need cops to direct traffic out of there, whilst they have another exit which has it's own stoplight that will stop everyone on what is a moderately busy street in order to let one car which is waiting leave. Not to mention you have to pay dues to join. Not tithes, dues. (never mind the theology of the new testemant, the whole ye mock the poor with your fine sanctuaries regarding extravagant places of worship, in which Jesus could easily have been talking about this sucker. It's like a McMansion version of the Notre Dame, with a $20m mortgage).

Anyway, a few weeks ago the youth pastor was arrested for getting a little too involved with the kids. I don't know why, I know it's sick and disgusting, but I couldn't help but laugh for hours upon hearing the news.


God I cannot wait for that place to declare bankruptcy. It would be even sweeter than if Hannity and Billo are lovers.


Good points man. See, that's what I've always hated about religion, the hypocrisy, the ability to change things in their own history, getting caught doing something they're not supposed to be according to their religion (which is oppressive of human nature as in the case of Haggard) etc. This is why I don't think I've ever been religious etc.


However, I think there are always going to be people who loop for "cosmic purpose" etc. so religious itself if it exists in a certain way isn't a threat to society. It's only when their social order is going to be "forced" on society that's the problem.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

However, I think there are always going to be people who loop for "cosmic purpose" etc. so religious itself if it exists in a certain way isn't a threat to society. It's only when their social order is going to be "forced" on society that's the problem.

I agree, there are a lot of true believes I know who don't have any holier-than-thou attitude towards myself (an atheist), and I respect their beliefs completely.

However, in this case, it's a pissing contest for wealthy people who want to be seen in the biggest church around when they praise Jesus. It also has a private school attached (which is miniscule next to the church itself) with rates for high school at about $15k a year. And just to bring up my point, (oops, my pic isn't working. Check out Rob the Great's post)

When I originally moved to the area a friend told me it was an indoor football stadium for Texas Christian University and I totally believed him, then was shocked when he laughed and said he 'got me' (the huge amounts of public money spent on giant football stadiums here is another issue that pisses me off more, but that's a whole other topic).

I don't know if it really force's itself on society too much though. Other than tax-free status, which is bullshit, and the fact that it's obviously ugly as sin.

[Bud Struggle]

Wonder why you never hear about Communism? http://www.sarahstirland.com/images/GIFs/MediaCon.gif These five companies own all the information get.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

I love tuna subs. :closedeyes:

How do you OIers feel about them?
They're okay. I dunno why you'd have a tuna sub when you can have other, better subs.

[Bud Struggle]

They're okay. I dunno why you'd have a tuna sub when you can have other, better subs.

ECU--Good to see you back.

The BEST sub in the world comes from the Edison Sub Show in Edison NJ.

The #23.

It has Swiss cheese, Proscuttini, Cappacola, Pepperoni and Salami

Freakin' great.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

These five companies own all the information get.
Only in America; sucks for you.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

ECU--Good to see you back.

The BEST sub in the world comes from the Edison Sub Show in Edison NJ.

The #23.

It has Swiss cheese, Proscuttini, Cappacola, Pepperoni and Salami

Freakin' great.
Unfortunately we don't have as great a selection of subs over here. It's mainly Subway, and after spending a summer mixing mayonaise into tuna it kind of puts you off.

[Bud Struggle]

Unfortunately we don't have as great a selection of subs over here. It's mainly Subway, and after spending a summer mixing mayonaise into tuna it kind of puts you off.

Subway is by far the suckiest subs going. (No offense to you for working there.) Here we have Firehouse--a chain but definitely better, but mostly the BEST subs are from independant sub shops.

There's one one every corner. Makes you kind of wonder--would I rather live in a country with bad news and great subs or great news and lousy subs? :D

[Robert]

Here's a photo of that Texas church you guys are talking about. I am told that there is a Starbucks inside. It's a 76795-square-foot building on 127 acres, dwarfing Notre-Dame de Paris.

I'm sure Jesus would approve.:rolleyes:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Yo9uWkPRYbY/RogtjiytpHI/AAAAAAAABIE/rMb2R4uuA9I/Jake+Ellzey+Wedding+Dallas+June+07-4.JPG

You know, Notre-Dame de Paris was reportedly saved from destruction by Napoleon. (Was that good or bad?) I would like to raze Prestonwood Baptist, but only because it is just too tacky.

[Bud Struggle]

Here's a photo of that Texas church you guys are talking about.

That is one huge money making machine.

[Pirate Utopian]

http://www.flashasylum.com/db/files/Comics/Dave/comicwoofwoof.png (http://www.explosm.net/comics/1639/)
Cyanide & Happiness @ Explosm.net (http://www.explosm.net/)

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Check out the new profile pic

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I would like to raze Prestonwood Baptist, but only because it is just too tacky.

I have no real problem with big churches per se, as long as they are of decent architecture and I like the latin gothic look of several churches I used to live by in the southwest, but here in the south they are all McCathedrals.

It's just fucking big to be big.


That is one huge money making machine.

Yep. Time to do away with that tax-free status.

At the very least, any preacher making more than 100k should be paying the IRS. I make substantially less than that I perform a service that is much more productive than professional bullshitting. Now, if you're going to give yourself to God and give up all worldly possessions, more power to you.

[Bud Struggle]

Yep. Time to do away with that tax-free status.

At the very least, any preacher making more than 100k should be paying the IRS. I make substantially less than that I perform a service that is much more productive than professional bullshitting. Now, if you're going to give yourself to God and give up all worldly possessions, more power to you.

Well the preachers pay taxes on what THEY make. If they have a salary of 50K then they pay taxes on that salary. On the other hand the CHURCH doesn't pay taxes on what it takes from contibutions from parishioners. Nor does any charity--United Way, etc. It would have to pay tax on any "for profit" company that it owned (like a cattle ranch.)

It would be pretty difficult to change the tax rules on any of that.

Interesting thing about the church it is has flying butresses almost like it's a mockery of a Gothic church.

[Bud Struggle]

Interesting flag I ran into (on the Internet.) Have no idea who these guys are--but thy do seem a bit confused to say the least.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/4icsfid.jpg

[Sentinel]

Interesting flag I ran into (on the Internet.) Have no idea who these guys are--but thy do seem a bit confused to say the least.'Nazbols', ie 'National Bolsheviks'. It's a weird blend of soviet nostalgy and fascism, and has very little if anything to do with communism at all. They just like the cool symbols and militarism of the USSR, and worship it due to their russian nationalism, basically.

They are banned upon sight on revleft like other fash due to the no platform policy we have.

[Bud Struggle]

'Nazbols', ie 'National Bolsheviks'. It's a weird blend of soviet nostalgy and fascism, and has very little if anything to do with communism at all. They just like the cool symbols and militarism of the USSR, and worship it due to their russian nationalism, basically.

They are banned upon sight on revleft like other fash due to the no platform policy we have.

Thanks!

Before I read your answer I looked over at Stormfront just to take a peak and see if they had something on it. That place is a real eye opener. Lots of members and lots of hate. It's quite amazing.

I think everyone should read what's going on over there on occasion just to see what's going on in the world.

[hugsandmarxism]

Say, any of you in the OI like J-POP?

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Thanks!

Before I read your answer I looked over at Stormfront just to take a peak and see if they had something on it. That place is a real eye opener. Lots of members and lots of hate. It's quite amazing.

I think everyone should read what's going on over there on occasion just to see what's going on in the world.
Stormfront isn't "the world".

Though looking at Stormfront does help one realize that the far left aren't actually hateful beings, even if they do advocate violent revolution. You haven't actually seen hate until you've read some of the stuff over there.

[Bud Struggle]

:hammersickle::star2::hammersickle:happy may day you commies!!!:hammersickle::star2::hammersickle:

Time to get your BLING on!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/MercutioTomK/korea.jpg

[Pirate Utopian]

Damn they are pimpin'

[Rascolnikova]

Stormfront isn't "the world".

Though looking at Stormfront does help one realize that the far left aren't actually hateful beings, even if they do advocate violent revolution. You haven't actually seen hate until you've read some of the stuff over there.

I've tried reading stormfront just to know, but as a general rule I don't make it more than a page or two before becoming physically ill. You should especially try their women's forum; how to put up with your man blaming you for everything, and keep being a good white supremacist. . . . :/

[Bud Struggle]

I've tried reading stormfront just to know, but as a general rule I don't make it more than a page or two before becoming physically ill. You should especially try their women's forum; how to put up with your man blaming you for everything, and keep being a good white supremacist. . . . :/

Did you promise to have a White baby in 2009 to increase the White race or promise not to get a tan so you don't look like a Black while you were there? :rolleyes:

It's like if Bogovitch's site all of a sudden got a quater of a million followers. Funny, but really scary, too.

[Rjevan]

I've tried reading stormfront just to know, but as a general rule I don't make it more than a page or two before becoming physically ill. You should especially try their women's forum; how to put up with your man blaming you for everything, and keep being a good white supremacist. . . . :/
Good to see that I'm not the only one who becomes "physically ill" if reading their stuff long enough. Some of their posts are really giving me a stab in the stomach. The most cynical shit I ever read was a post there, were one of them claimed that the Nazis actually saved the Jews by taking them to Auschwitz and other KZs because whole Europe was bombed down and had to suffer from war crimes (I really wonder who did these terrible things!) and only the Jews were "save" in the KZs and could avoid being slaughtered this way... I never felt the need for smashing my screen that urgent!

And their typical "blacks are animals" (some bastard suggests a safari on blacks in black neighbourhoods and Africa) and their Nazi-glorifying ("Aww, if I look at these pictures of living in the 3rd Reich my heart hurts!"... mine hurts too, but for very different reasons!) and their "Communists are evil Jew-loving gay and balcks friends" shit is just insufferable and you're right, the womens forum is a source of surprise for me. I never thought that so many women would like to be simple birth-machines and house-slaves...

About the Nazbols: since the Russian sites are down for ages, (except this rather lame english info-site (http://nazbol.cc/), go for the "Manual of youth aggression" one it has a "nice" video) here's the Czech NB site (http://www.narodni-bolsevik.org/). I don't think you will understand much but look through the ART-section, they have some rather interesting materials there, which show their strange attempt to combine communism with fascism.

[Rascolnikova]

I never thought that so many women would like to be simple birth-machines and house-slaves

If that inclination is the only thing you ever receive positive feedback for in your whole life, it can really fuck with your head a lot. Cutting off a person's desire for outside information is one of the most effective ways to keep them ignorant.

The worst part for me, reading the women's forum, that I can't help but think; I like these women. I relate to these women. Often I would want to be their friend. . . but they've all been stuck in this tragic, disgusting, sickening little box.. . :(

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Well, I have to say that I definitely want a woman (come long-term relationship/marriage time) who can cook. And not only average, but can make a damn good meal.

For marriage, it's one of my top prerequisites. Probably about #4.

Just kidding, but it would definitely be nice. Especially if she really enjoys it and yells at me if I try to do any work. That would be a dream come true.

[Dejavu]

*Hands TomK a loaf of desperately needed bread from the other side of the cage* ;)

[Qwerty Dvorak]

The girlfriend dragged me to see 17 Again so she could dote on Zac Effron. It was surprisingly funny, and Michelle Trechtenberg is not bad to look at at all at all.

Also does anyone here by any chance play OpenTTD? It's fantastic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenTTD
http://www.openttd.org/en/

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Zack Efron pisses me off. Never meant the guy, but nobody who's in like 87 musicals about high school can be cool. Especially when those commericials are just bombarding you with song and dance.

[RGacky3]

The girlfriend dragged me to see 17 Again so she could dote on Zac Effron. I was surprisingly funny, and Michelle Trechtenberg is not bad to look at at all at all.

Pussy.

[RedAnarchist]

Pussy.

That's one verbal warning for you then. Please don't use discriminatroy language, thanks.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Zack Efron pisses me off. Never meant the guy, but nobody who's in like 87 musicals about high school can be cool. Especially when those commericials are just bombarding you with song and dance.
I'm not his biggest fan either, tell that to the ladies though. Sigh.

[RGacky3]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RGacky3 http://www.revleft.com/vb/reactionary-chatter-iv-t99344/revleft/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.revleft.com/vb/reactionary-chatter-iv-t99344/showthread.php?p=1436451#post1436451)
Pussy.
That's one verbal warning for you then. Please don't use discriminatroy language, thanks.

Can I say pussy whipped?

[RedAnarchist]

Can I say pussy whipped?

No.

[Sentinel]

Can I say pussy whipped? Since you clearly don't care about verbal warnings from moderators, how about an infraction from me then? Here you go.

[Incendiarism]

I feel like such a jerk.

[hugsandmarxism]

No one answered my question! :crying:

I guess I'm just going to have to assume the answer is "no." :(

[Bud Struggle]

Since you clearly don't care about verbal warnings from moderators, how about an infraction from me then? Here you go.

A quick question on rules of order--what happens when you get a verbal infraction? Do you get some sort of demerit? I'm guessing a written infraction is worse.

Anywhere I can go to read those rules--I must have missed them.

[Edit] Not that you guys care, but I think you are being a bit hard on Gack. I know I've been called the "C" word on a number of instances by Commie Club members/Moderators with no infractions to them. And now Gack is just farting around and he gets a warning. I'm not on your case, but it's unfair.

In Commie antonomy is there a difference between a "P" and a "C"?

That was a joke.:rolleyes::lol::rolleyes:

[freakazoid]

lol wut? He is getting a warning/infraction for using the word pussy, but it is perfectly fine to call people ****s? :confused:

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

It's nice to stroke a pussy.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

lol wut? He is getting a warning/infraction for using the word pussy, but it is perfectly fine to call people ****s? :confused:

hahaha well said. Lacks sense on that one.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I feel like such a jerk.

You should.

[RGacky3]

Can I discuss the use of so-called "discriminatory language" in the unfair restrictions part? Or what? Should I start a thread? Because this is rediculous.

[RedAnarchist]

Can I discuss the use of so-called "discriminatory language" in the unfair restrictions part? Or what? Should I start a thread? Because this is rediculous.

No, because you weren't unfairly restricted for using that language.

[RGacky3]

So when is a word considered discriminatory?Whats the deal with that? Why is the word pussy discriminatory? Why is pussy whipped discriminatory (as in a man who is controlled by his girl), why is'nt **** discriminatory? Why is'nt ***** discriminatory, and so on and so forth. Whos deciding what is and what is'nt discriminatory?

What about women who use the word pussy to describe a weak or wimpy dude? Are they discriminating against themselves?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Couldn't "pussy" be synonymous with "scaredy-cat"? Because to be honest that etymology makes far more sense. Vaginas aren't cowardly or brave. They're just vaginas. Whereas cats can be percieved as cowardly creatures.

[hugsandmarxism]

Couldn't "pussy" be synonymous with "scaredy-cat"? Because to be honest that etymology makes far more sense. Vaginas aren't cowardly or brave. They're just vaginas. Whereas cats can be percieved as cowardly creatures.

It's also been used to denigrate people as being "un-manly" and has historically been used an affront to homosexuals (giving way to such phrases as "pansy," "nancy-boy," and other such drivel). "****" seems to be a means of calling someone bitter and cruel, usually in reference to women who act this way, just as men who are mean and insensitive are called "dicks". I don't use it myself, but from its usage, it seems to have become a unisex slur for "jerk." Calling people "****s" and "dicks" is vulgar and childish, but it doesn't have the same misogynistic/homophobic connotations that "pussy" has attached to it. RGacky3 was warned, he pushed his luck, and he got an infraction. I say he should stop complaining.

Now will SOMEONE in the OI answer my question?!?!

[RGacky3]

It's also been used to denigrate people as being "un-manly" and has historically been used an affront to homosexuals (giving way to such phrases as "pansy," "nancy-boy," and other such drivel).

People called homosexuals that because they had the predjudicial concept that homosexuals are somehow less tough then hederosexuals, that does'nt mean that words meaning unmanly or untough are against homosexuals. Thats like saying someone is greasy is automatically meaning he's racist against italians or latinos or wahtever because they were stereotyped as that in the past too. That makes no sense.


"****" seems to be a means of calling someone bitter and cruel, usually in reference to women who act this way, just as men who are mean and insensitive are called "dicks". I don't use it myself, but from its usage, it seems to have become a unisex slur for "jerk."

Men are called ****s too ... very few women (as far as I know of of) ar called dicks.


but it doesn't have the same misogynistic/homophobic connotations that "pussy" has attached to it.

There is NO homophobic connotation to the word pussy, and niether is there misogynistic, it is widely used without any connotatio attached to it, now if you want to go into the deep history of the word and its origional meaning why it became what it became, then your welcome too, but thats a seperate discussion and has nothing to do with whether the word no is discriminatory. I know many women that say "that guy is a pussy", without any connotations attached to it.


RGacky3 was warned, he pushed his luck, and he got an infraction. I say he should stop complaining.


I did'nt push myluck, I asked about the term "pussy whipped" which means a compleatly different thing, in that sense its refering to pussy as vagina, and the whipped as a man who is "whipped" by the girl he is with.

I'm not complaining, its a serious accusation, if someone is accusing my of discrimination then its something to discuss.

[ls]

It's also been used to denigrate people as being "un-manly"

Yeah possibly in the sense of a pussy-cat.


and has historically been used an affront to homosexuals

No it hasn't.


(giving way to such phrases as "pansy," "nancy-boy," and other such drivel).

To be fair, those are all crap insults anyway.


"****" seems to be a means of calling someone bitter and cruel

Or just insulting someone you don't like in general.


usually in reference to women who act this way, just as men who are mean and insensitive are called "dicks"

Really? I've witnessed so many people call men ****s. It's more common for males who hold discriminatory views against women to call them *****es -- however, not all men who do call certain women *****es hold discriminatory views, it's just far more common that they do than ones that use ****, **** is a widely used word.


I don't use it myself, but from its usage, it seems to have become a unisex slur for "jerk." Calling people "****s" and "dicks" is vulgar and childish, but it doesn't have the same misogynistic/homophobic connotations that "pussy" has attached to it.

Pussy has no homophobic connotations attached to it, maybe misogynistic depending on his intentions with posting it (although I doubt in his case it was misogynistic), but definitely not homophobic. That's bollocks.

[hugsandmarxism]

Never mind then.

[RedAnarchist]

(as in a man who is controlled by his girl)

Is that any worse than a woman being controlled by her male partner?

[apathy maybe]

The whole discriminatory language thing has been worked over many times before. You can search the members forum, and the discrimination forum for some discussions.

I don't know the current "rules" at the moment.

By the way, I don't know whether "pussy" should be considered discriminatory. I do know that "gay" as a pejorative should be though.

RGacky3, I would suggest that you could start a thread in OI to discuss "discriminatory language", and it shouldn't be closed (so long as it isn't merely an attack on the management for your warning). Whether the CC, or the mod team, takes any notice of it, is a different matter.

[Bud Struggle]

Hey, nobody answered what sort of bad things happen to you when you get a verbal warning.

A blot on your copy book and all of that rot!

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Is that any worse than a woman being controlled by her male partner?

No it isn't. In my view, both are equally unhealthy.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Maybe I'm ****-whipped then.

That actually sounds kinda kinky...

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I would say that a man controlling a woman is worse.

A woman controlling her man in a relationship is.....normal :(

edit: just as ever closer union. Poor fellow, ask him about the last time he went to the flicks.

[RGacky3]

Is that any worse than a woman being controlled by her male partner?

No, who said that? And what does that have to do with whether or not "pussy whipped" is discriminatory?

[Kronos]

Those who are dangerous among the revolutionary spirits.— One can divide those who are intent on overthrowing society into the ones who want to achieve something for themselves, and the ones who want to achieve something for their children and grandchildren. The latter are the more dangerous; for they believe they are disinterested and possess the good conscience that goes with that belief. The others can be bought off: the ruling society is still rich and prudent enough for that. Danger begins when goals become impersonal; revolutionaries whose interest is impersonal may regard all defenders of the existing order as having a personal interest, and may therefore feel superior to them.- Nietzsche

Another bulls-eye. Can this guy shoot or what?

There is no doubt in my mind that Nietzsche has worked out the future of politics from top to bottom. He gives a very fair estimation of the kind of motives and attitudes of everyone ever involved in a political movement. It is clear that Nietzsche understands socialism as being a superior system to all other alternatives, and to understand how he arrives at this conclusion one has to follow him through his labyrinth.

There are "fair weather" Nietzscheans, those angry simpletons who don't want to work for the wrong reasons, and who therefore feel entitled to have a political opinion at all, who take pieces of this labyrinth to use to their advantage...without traversing the entire maze itself. These simpletons take "politics is for the rabble" and use it as an excuse to remain worthless, lazy zeros. "I'm an artist", they say, and I am above the matter of politics...."I'm an ubermensch, see, so rather than starting my own business or working for peanuts at the grocery store, I'll smoke pot, play my guitar, and wander around....because I've read Nietzsche and I'm the noble artistic type." But these idiots couldn't do anything else- they pretend that they have made a competent decision and "deserve" their alternative....but they haven't and they don't. They couldn't handle politics even if they wanted to....so they pretend to have not wanted to and made the decision to avoid it. These romantic Randian noble artistic types, my ass.

This accounts for probably ninety percent of the Nietzscheans today. But enough about them.

You see him describe the idealistic revolutionary as the most dangerous, while the revolutionary for the immediate, personal gratification is no great threat to the system. I say "idealist" because they are motivated toward creating a future that is not yet realized- they are in a sense political artists, while the latter revolutionaries are individuals under the guise of collective interests, impersonal, communal interests, who if pressed would fold and collapse.

There is a pathological difference between the idealist and the realist revolutionary. The idealists fit the mold of the overman- they are not the anarchists, christians and socialists Nietzsche describes as decadent....looking for a way to blame somebody else for their failings and their discontent. Why not? Because they have no investment in the immediate time....they are living and fighting to establish and secure a future in which others might not fail the same. This is extraordinary, a spiritual superiority at its best. They hold the hammers. They are like martyrs who sacrifice themselves so that something greater than them, and their opponents, might be willed. They are clearing the political arena of every corruption from top to bottom, destroying the entire stage rather than shifting a few props here and there to make things better for themselves.

Do you see the difference? Nietzsche certainly does weed-out the decadent revolutionary type (I can list the aphorisms in which he does this), but he does not abandon the superiority of this system. Observe:


Property and justice.— When socialists prove that the distribution of wealth in present-day society is the consequence of countless injustices and atrocities, rejecting in summa the obligation towards anything so unjustly established, they are seeing only one aspect of the matter. The entire past of the old culture was erected on force, slavery, deception, error; but we, the heirs and inheritors of all these past things, cannot decree our own abolition, and may not wish away one particular part. The disposition to injustice lies in the souls of the non-possessors too, they are no better than the possessors and have no special moral privilege, for at some point their forefathers were possessors too. We do not need forcible redistribution of property, but rather a gradual transformation of mind; the sense of justice must become greater in everyone, and the instinct for violence weaker.- Nietzsche

[Kronos]

Capitalism is not the realization of aristocratic virtues, and it is not because the capitalist, who should be the equivalent of the noble, artistic type, has no spiritual depth or integrity. He is as shallow as those who he exploits so he does not have to work, and in his free-time, which he has acquired through not having to work, he festers and flounders and flops on the surface of this shallow water. Show me the "best" capitalist in the world and I'll give you a peek into his real life, what he does, what he doesn't do. There is no fucking way this guy is the equivalent of a Caesar or a Napoleon.

There is no proper hierarchy of ranks in this pseudo-aristocracy because the highest rank would not be distinguishable from the lowest rant if he was removed from the context in which he exists because of being able to exploit the lowest rank. This emperor "has no clothes".

What is the richest man in the world doing right now, as we speak? Eating a souffle on the patio of his vacation home on an island while his wife argues with her hairdresser on the phone. This is the greatest man alive today. Later, he will take his arthritis pills and go play a round of golf. At noon, he's back at the house drinking scotch and staring contemplatively at his Rembrandt hanging over the marble mantle....as if this guy has culture and refined tastes. In the evening, he hosts a dinner party for all the CEOs, who bring their wives. They mingle and talk about the stock market. One of them asks to be excused because he has irritable bowl syndrome....and needs to get to the bathroom quick. This goes on for a few more hours and then the night is over. Tomorrow, repeat.

I'm sorry people. This doesn't cut it. There is no fucking way this shit justifies capitalism- is this what being "a success" means in capitalism?

How many thousands of people are miserable so these idiots can do a whole lot of nothing every day of their lives? I don't see "noble people". I see a living, breathing cancerous parasite who if stripped of their power and possessions, wouldn't last five minutes in a real struggle. My god, the thing can't even play a round of golf without becoming exhausted!

I'm saying that the world better produce something far better than these idiots if it is to redeem the capitalist system.

The plowshare of evil must come again. It has come. Watch your back Capitalists....we are creeping in the night and we will make a true work of "art" out of you yet.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Kronos, stop bringing Chatter down with your ramblings. Get a blog or something.

http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-08-new-regina-spektor-2

Ignore the fact that it's Perez Hilton, my gf sent me the link. I love Regina Spektor, and this song is brilliant.

[Kronos]

Yes, thank you, ever closer union, for reprimanding me.

What was I thinking. I did not mean to interrupt, and I'm thankful that you posted that song. There is nothing like a song written by a bleeding-heart misunderstood angst-ridden bubble-gum popstar. All four chords of it.

I liked the site too. The pink is fabulous.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Hey now, I told you I was not responsible for the site.

And Regina Spektor is lovely. I hugged her once.

Honestly though would you not think about setting up a blog? You seem to have a lot to say but the Chatter thread is probably not the best platform.

[Kronos]

Honestly though would you not think about setting up a blog? You seem to have a lot to say but the Chatter thread is probably not the best platform.

Oh do I ever. Blogs are lame though, because your ideas sit up and out of reach of debate....which gives bloggers the false impression that they are intelligent.

I prefer being in the trenches, in the fields. Blogging is for armchair philosophers.

Anyway I'm locked in this forum so I can't post anywhere else. I appealed my restriction yesterday but apparently the courts are still in recess. Courts are like that. They take their sweet fuckin time.

[Bud Struggle]

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY.

Sorry I haven't posted on the CPUSA thread--my brother showed up with a Jimmy Buffet Margahrita maker and we've been walking around in a tequila fog for the last couple of days.

[Kronos]

a Jimmy Buffet Margahrita maker

And nothing to show but a brand new tattoo?

Does your wife know that how it got there, you haven't a clue?

[Kronos]

On the album "Man From Utopia", Frank arranged a song in the theme of "lounge jazz", which he absolutely hated, in which Steve Vai would match on his guitar, note for note, the syllables of the lyrics. Very difficult to do. The original cannot be found on youtube, but I found these:

This one was done by someone in the same style, but with horns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWDPmBWQMO4

This one is a cover of the original done by Mike Keneally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96hWALDRHiw

Believe it or not, the story is true. It happened with some guys from Zappa's road crew while on tour.

Once upon a time
It was in Albuquerque, New Mexico
There were these girls that worked at the college
The were really cool...
(They thought so anyway)
The would be delighted to tell you how suave they where
At the drop of a hat

There was three of 'em:
One of them thought she was a Beauty Queen...
The other one was a Walking Blow-Job
And then there was this skinny girl...

Oh well...
Some of the guys in the band got together
With the girls from the college
They were having a good time...
(We were in Alburquerque for a couple of days)
But these girls thought they were Hot Shit
'N wouldn't pooch the guys in the band
On the first day, so...
A couple of the guys in the band
Who were desparate for THAT KIND OF ACTION
Kept workin' on 'em for two days
(Which is a waste of fuckin' time anyway...)
So, anyway...
But if that's your idea of a good time, what the hey?

Send those pants up here!
Here's some more!
Okay, good-good!
Traditional cotton...oh, how sweet!
Umf...huh-huh-huh-huhhh...
HERE! Work these!

Anyway...
We're in Albuquerque, New Mexico...
A couple of the guys in the band, who shall go nameless
Because their girlfriends might find out
Decided they were gonna work the wall on these girls
From the college
So, one night...it was the first night
When they were still trying to 'get it in there'
(Ya know what I mean? Huh-huh-huh-huh...)
The skinny girl, she says to one of the guys in the band
She says, well, to several of the guys in the band
And one of the T-shirt guys too...
"HEY! LET'S GO SKINNY-DIPPING!"
At two o'clock in the morning at the pool at the hotel
That's right, your heard right,
Two o'clock in the morning, pool at the hotel...
It was so fun...
But the water was very, very cold!
So they go out there and the girl who was really skinny
'N' probably totally insensitive to climatic changes
Took all of her garments off and she jumped in the pool
And she says, "HEY GUYS! COME ON IN!"
Well, one of them did...
The other one was too smart for that shit
So him and the T-shirt guy say by the edge of the pool
And when the girl who was really skinny
(And insensitive to climatic changes)
Took off her clothes and jumped in the pool
She threw her pants over there by the little table

Well, one of the guys in the band picked up het panties
(He told me later the stuff in the bottom
Was like punching an eclair...)
Anyhow...there was nothing else to do...
It was Alburquerque, New Mexico
It's two o'clock in the morning...
They're not going to get any nooky anyway...
So this one guy and the T-shirt guy
Started sniffing the girl's panties...
They were sniffing the fudge and sniffing the glue...
Sniffing every 'thing' that adhered to these
Delightful little morsels
(Some of you might think this is weird...
No wonder. It's not exactly normal, but
What the fuck?)
So, they're snorting it...
(Hey! It's the twentieth century...
Whatever you can do to have a good time, let's get on with it,
So long as it doesn't cause a murder...)

So they're snorting the pants
'N' then they put them on their heads...
They were having a good time...
The girl was in the water...she didn't even see
What was going on with her underpants...
They were wearing the pants
It looked just like a tiny little party hat...
Their ears were sticking out the side...it was so fun
Later on they discovered,
This would make a great way of life for them...
They would go from town to town, looking for panties
They would take the panties after they were hung up
On the clothes line
Later on they would take 'em back in the dressing room
They would play with them...
They would fetish the underpants...
They would snort every little morsel attached
To the underpants...and then...they would feel that
They were FULFILLED

And so you can see,
That what we're doing here on stage
Is part of a Great American Tradition
The tradition of the
JAZZ DISCHARGE PARTY HATS

[Kronos]

Observe what happens when a black American consumer fucks with a communist China man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDNWvdt4tiM

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIs-jDx1sys&feature=related

[Kronos]

I have a question regarding that video, Joe.

How does that monkey, who thinks he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, have the right to criticize Shaniqua for being "vain"?

[RedAnarchist]

I have a question regarding that video, Joe.

How does that monkey, who thinks he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, have the right to criticize Shaniqua for being "vain"?

What do monkeys have to do with that video?

[Kronos]

(here come the racism police)

Let me clarify that I am generous with my misanthropy, which means I make derogatory remarks about all races and both genders.

When I refer to a human being as a "monkey" I am alluding to that persons well rounded lack of integrity and likening him/her to a primate.

On some occasions I find that calling someone a monkey is still to generous, so I'll call them a worm or something.

[RedAnarchist]

(here come the racism police)

Let me clarify that I am generous with my misanthropy, which means I make derogatory remarks about all races and both genders.

When I refer to a human being as a "monkey" I am alluding to that persons well rounded lack of integrity and likening him/her to a primate.

On some occasions I find that calling someone a monkey is still to generous, so I'll call them a worm or something.

What the hell does it have to do with rascism? I didn't realise you were calling the person names, thats all.

[Kronos]

Oh, sorry then. I'm a little paranoid. I was banned long ago for making racist comments. Today I have resolved to hate everyone equally....to avoid that hassle.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooarT3cn8_o&feature=related

[apathy maybe]

Oh, sorry then. I'm a little paranoid. I was banned long ago for making racist comments. Today I have resolved to hate everyone equally....to avoid that hassle.

Oi, you, filth, out of the gene pool.

[Kronos]

My Moustache envy.

http://www.greatkat.com/03/nietzsche2.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5168/2006103065702.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

Kronos, looks like both you and the Nietz have got pussies* growing on your faces. :D

*The reference here is to cats and/or kittens. No other meaning or connotations of this word should be ascribed to the author of this post.

[Kronos]

Hey, you know what Feuerbach says......."you are what you eat".

da....dat....tshhh!!!

[Bud Struggle]

Hey, you know what Feuerbach says......."you are what you eat".

da....dat....tshhh!!!

I'm sure it will be so decided by the Central Committee of the Supreme Soviet after the future Revolution that pussy* will be considered eatable food for the Glorious People of the Future World of the Permanant Revolution of Planet Earth.

*The reference here is to cats and/or kittens. No other meaning or connotations of this word should be ascribed to the author of this post.

[Pirate Utopian]

I cant wait to eat all those pussies*.

*The reference here is to cats and/or kittens. No other meaning or connotations of this word should be ascribed to the author of this post.

[Kronos]

Does anyone know of any popular fascism forums on the net with decent activity? I have found several nationalist sites but I am not interested in that fantasy- multiculturalism and interracial breeding has guaranteed its impossibility. I'll leave that idea to the comic-book nazis.

But it has become clear to me the more I study fascism the more I understand neither the extreme right or extreme left will never be possible in politics....so I'd rather not waste my time contemplating such fairy-tales. I am greatly impressed with the "hard center" principles of fascism.

Neither do I want to be banned for being interested in Fascism. I am as opposed to "supercapitalism" (as Mussolini called it) as anyone else here and I maintain most of my socialist leanings.

[apathy maybe]

Does anyone know of any popular fascism forums on the net with decent activity? I have found several nationalist sites but I am not interested in that fantasy- multiculturalism and interracial breeding has guaranteed its impossibility. I'll leave that idea to the comic-book nazis.

But it has become clear to me the more I study fascism the more I understand neither the extreme right or extreme left will never be possible in politics....so I'd rather not waste my time contemplating such fairy-tales. I am greatly impressed with the "hard center" principles of fascism.

Neither do I want to be banned for being interested in Fascism. I am as opposed to "supercapitalism" (as Mussolini called it) as anyone else here and I maintain most of my socialist leanings.
The "third way" is fascism, and fascism is not accepted here.

If you have any leanings towards fascism, you will be banned.

Mind you, merely "studying" fascism isn't a problem. Any intelligent person who does a proper study will realise that fascism isn't a viable political theory.

[Kronos]

If you have any leanings towards fascism, you will be banned.

Thanks for the warning, but I would hope that if I did, the communists here might have the courage to take up the gauntlet against me.....rather than kick me out.

[ snicker ]


Mind you, merely "studying" fascism isn't a problem.

That's about all I can do, you know. There is a difference between one's actions and the mental phenomena swirling around in one's head. If I were to be judged by my actions....I'd be most comparable to a primitivist/proletarian. What I "think" about really is irrelevant here.

[RGacky3]

Whats the line between State Capitalism and fascism?

[Kronos]

I'm currently studying Fascism and I gotta tell ya....it's fascinating. There is much I don't understand yet but I'm learning.

So far I've discovered that it is a bit of a misnomer to refer to it as "state capitalism". Capitalism does not fall under government jurisdiction while corporatism does. So the difference must be that a government has a "hands off" policy in capitalism while in a fascism, the state has the right to appropriate corporations at any time.

According to Mussolini, fascism practices "the bureaucratisation of the economic activities of the nation." So state capitalism here is really interchangeable with state socialism.

Furthermore, many of the characteristics of capitalist hegemonic principles such as imperialism and monopoly do not exist in a fascist state, as far as I know. I'm not yet sure about trade policies or importing/exporting labor and goods, but I am under the impression that a fascist state focuses on its own internal integrity and industrial power (provided they have proper resources). In a sense it seems like an intense kind of economic isolationism, but I also keep in mind the historical context of past fascist states- they emerged during great political conflict (Italian fascism as a response to the Versailles treatise, as was the German Worker's Party)- so I imagine the nationalistic sentiments of a fascist state would not longer exist.

I'm noticing that the context means everything. A fascist state is like a great explosion of competitive, heroic economic spirit among a people....which, of course, requires some external opposition in order to organize. I don't think such oppositions exist anymore so I don't believe the romantic ideology behind fascism is the same. But, I am still impressed with its "hard center" politics between the extremes of capitalism and communism.

Just suspend your judgment of fascism for a moment and read up on it. It is very revolutionary, very radical, very "revitalizing".

[Kronos]

shitfucking asshole raping son of a fucking **** ***** dike shit ***** fucking fuck fucker like you are.

Remember boys and girls, cursing is the feeble mind's attempt to express itself.

That young man certainly has a strong spirit, though. He would make a great soldier. Attack...but for god's sake don't think.

Besides, is this really necessary to beat TomK? My god, I could beat him with my frontal lobe tied behind my back.

[Kronos]

TomK I want you to go see the new movie "Angels and Demons" so will see what assnoids the Catholic Church are. You know for centuries they have opposed the Illuminati, a secret society dedicated to the scientific approach to knowledge. And now those bullies are gonna get what they deserve.

This is all the church has ever done- spite those revolutionary thinkers and scientists who have discovered the truth, rather than believe in a bunch of speculative nonsense. The "priest" class in any society has always been absolutely useless, even more so that the capitalist. Read Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals and The Antichrist if you dare.

Remember what they did to Copernicus and Galileo when they proved them wrong about the nature of the solar system, right?

You're all a bunch of charlatans and sophists, TomK. One day Catholicism will be wiped from the planet once and for all.

(one aspect of fascism I don't agree on- preserving religious culture and beliefs. Um....no. Fagettaboutit.)

[Kronos]

Will somebody with some pull around here please answer my question:

Can I or can I not have access to the Philosophy forum?

That is all I want. I've gotta get in there. I can only watch and it's killing me, folks.

Look, I'll make a deal with you. I'll take on Rosa and get your sacred "Dialectical Materialism" back if you let me in there, mmkay?

[Bud Struggle]

Besides, is this really necessary to beat TomK? My god, I could beat him with my frontal lobe tied behind my back.

The scary thing is that Rush Limbaugh says the EXACT SAME THING when discussing his debates with Liberals. Maybe you should stay in OI :blink::unsure: :D

[Kronos]

Oh no....not the radio talk show conservatives.

You know what creates the illusion that they are so intelligent? The people who call in on the phones.

When Andy dipshit so-and-so from Utah calls and ridicules Obama's suggestion that people inflate their tires more.....how could you not sound like a genius supporting criticism against that shit?

You put one of the big brains here at RevLeft against Limbaugh and he would look like a clown.

[apathy maybe]

Can I or can I not have access to the Philosophy forum?
No. No you can't.

That's a question (also the S&E forum, and a couple of others), that has been asked before, and the answer is "no".

But feel free to start threads on topics that interest you here in OI.

But watch you don't get banned.

[Bud Struggle]

TomK I want you to go see the new movie "Angels and Demons" so will see what assnoids the Catholic Church are.

You do realize that the movie is just "fiction" it's not a true story. Kind of like Pride and Prejudice. That's fiction, too (in case you didn't know.)

:)

[Jazzratt]

On a different note, and cross posted from chit chat proper:

You have no conception of how much it sucks to have walked home from doing bullshit work for very little whilst it is blowing a fucking gale and absolutely slashing it down. My arse is so unbearably fucking wet right now. It is motherfucking booze time.

[Robert]

Kind of like Pride and Prejudice. That's fiction, too

Wha -- huh -- sputter -- you take that back!

We got one commie reading The Financial Times ("because it's trash") and another (with a peculiar interest in fascism and Hollywood) listening to the EIB Network.

This is too much. I'm going to the pub to chill with my main man . . . .

[Bud Struggle]

It is motherfucking booze time.

98 degrees in the shade here 98% humidity. If you don't mind having a drink with a CPUSAer (and a Capitalist until the revolution) I'll join you--at home, though.

I'm having a Mahgareta.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Today I talked down the highstreet with my trousers round by my ankels and sat there in the middle of the highstreet til i was sober enough to carry my sorry arse round town until going to macdonolds and making an arse of myself for reason I did stuff inbetween and it took seven hours.

[Kronos]

You do realize that the movie is just "fiction" it's not a true story.

Wait a minute. Did you think that I thought you'd think I thought that was a true story?

Wow.

Just wow.

Yeah well that bit about Copernicus and Galileo was true.

Nuff said.

[Kronos]

No. No you can't.

Your decision is counterrevolutionary you know. Hegel is dead (you can thank Rosa for that) and I'm the only one who can revive him.

The fate of the revolution hangs in the balance, apathy maybe. What are my feelings about this? Apathy, maybe. You think about that.

[Kronos]

http://grandgood.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/040308james_brown.jpg

http://a1.vox.com/6a00c225236005f21900d41429d2816a47-500pi

Hmmm.....

[Bud Struggle]

Wait a minute. Did you think that I thought you'd think I thought that was a true story?



Of course not. I was gently mocking you. That being said--here's s movie fro you Summer Hours http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/summerhours

It explains a bit about the meanings of the expensive paintings and the silver tea services and the etched galss vases that the Borugeois surround themselves with. the houses and the lands. In a way it's a quite beautiful and sumptuous world that will be done away with either by Communism or by Worldwide Capitalism. Either way it's dying and it may be worth you taking the time to see what this Bourgeoise culture was all about. :)

Not justifying anything--but there was a real beauty to the Bourgeois world that will soon be gone. Anyway this movie sums it up quite well.

[Robert]

Are you sure you guys don't want to unrestrict a member who pointlessly likens Brother James Brown to an ape?

[Kronos]

see what this Bourgeoise culture was all about.Oh I see what it's all about.

http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpress/wp-content/pyramid-kap.jpg

I'd rather spend my time admiring the proletarian culture. The beer stains on the carpet, the ripped Iron Maiden posters on the walls, the worn out, discolored mattress, the lava lamp, the thirteen inch TV with the bent antenna, the dirty ash trays and clothes all over the floor....all of it. I would find Jazzratt's apartment far more endearing that your house, pal.

[Kronos]

Please delete this post.

[RedAnarchist]

http://grandgood.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/040308james_brown.jpg

http://a1.vox.com/6a00c225236005f21900d41429d2816a47-500pi

Hmmm.....

That's 1 infraction for you, for prejudiced language (ok, they're pictures, but we can see what you mean).

[Kronos]

Received in a PM by RedAnarchist:


You're a moron and racism is never acceptable on this forum. You know that black people are seen by racists as monketys.

Inconceivable! There is a whole five percent difference in DNA sequencing!

And how dare you call moi a moron. What's the difference between an insult to one's race and an insult to one's intelligence, anyway? None.

You, sir, are an intelligencist, and I am offended.