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The Intransigent Faction
15th January 2009, 01:03
DETROIT — American autoworkers urged their Canadian counterparts Sunday to join forces and fight “union busting” concessions that are part of multi-billion-dollar loan agreements designed to keep the Detroit Three afloat.
About 50 placard-waving protesters staged a demonstration outside the North American International Auto Show in a bid to draw attention to the push for wage and benefit concessions they fear will be forced on autoworkers in negotiations between the United Auto Workers and the companies.
“We’re in this mess altogether, and I think we need to have cross-border solidarity,” said Frank Hammer, a General Motors retiree. “And I’d love to see Canadian and U.S. workers in the same union once again. I believe in many ways they’ve led the way especially in national health care in Canada. This is what we need to have on this side of the river.”
Wendy Thompson, a UAW retiree and co-ordinator of the protest, said provisions designed to bring UAW wages in line with workers at foreign auto plants are unacceptable.
Outgoing President George W. Bush “wants to destroy unions,” said Thompson.
“To say as conditions unions have to go down to standards, wages, benefits of non-union workers will cause wages of non-union plants to spiral downward. The message we want to get out is unions help the economy. They don’t hurt it because if you lower wages, who can buy anything?”
Thompson called on president-elect Barack Obama to rescind the conditions being imposed on unions in the loan agreements. She also urged Canadian labour leaders to support the fight for universal health care in the United States.
“In the United States, we need a single-tier health-care system like you have in Canada,” said Thompson. “No matter how many problems people feel your system may have, believe you me, our problems stink.”
She said autoworkers on both sides of the border must stand united in the fight to preserve North American jobs. “I think we cannot fight among ourselves as workers. There are things and work that need to be done, so let’s stick together and make sure people are put to work.”
The Bush administration agreed to provide about $17 billion US_in financial assistance to General Motors, Chrysler and Ford, while the Canadian and Ontario governments agreed to dole out about $4 billion to the Canadian auto companies.
Although details of the Canadian aid have yet to be disclosed, Canadian Auto Workers leader Ken Lewenza has repeatedly rejected calls for wage and benefits concession, saying that his members have already sacrificed enough to keep the automakers competitive.
GM is expected to begin negotiations with the UAW Monday.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Business/autoworkers+want+Canadian+help+fight+concessions/1166237/story.html (http://www.vancouversun.com/Business/autoworkers+want+Canadian+help+fight+concessions/1166237/story.html)

Martin Blank
15th January 2009, 02:11
Actually, there were about 150 people total at the event, but most of them were not autoworkers. They were leftists or workers from other industries and unions.

The Intransigent Faction
15th January 2009, 23:43
Actually, there were about 150 people total at the event, but most of them were not autoworkers. They were leftists or workers from other industries and unions.

Surely the auto workers are upset enough to protest too?

ls
16th January 2009, 03:05
Actually, there were about 150 people total at the event, but most of them were not autoworkers. They were leftists or workers from other industries and unions.

Source? Were you there? If so could you point some links to us, I'd be greatly interested in seeing a video you are sure is accurate.

The Associated Press via wndu.com - 'UAW workers protest outside auto show' estimates it was 40 people protesting..

MARY M. CHAPMAN AND NICK KURCZEWSKI's blog on the nytimes -
about 300 auto workers and labor activists rallied near the site of the auto show here, protesting against possible United Automobile Workers union concessions.

'Union protests outside auto show' on findarticles -
About 200 union activists protested proposed cuts in benefits and pay outside the site of the North American International Auto Show Sunday.

Conflicting sources much? :confused:

If you Google 'Detroit Auto Show Auto Worker Rally - 2009' and click on the 6th result (a youtube video), it says:


On January 11, 2009, active and retired autoworkers, labor and community activists, and others concerned about the future of U.S. manufacturing, healthcare, the environment, the economy, and working families rallied outside Cobo Hall in Detroit during press day of the North American International Auto Show. They advocated for Single-Payer Health Care Bill H.R. 676, bold green jobs legislation, fair trade, the Employee Free Choice Act and other concrete solutions to remedy decades of failed corporate and government policies.

That sounds and looks pretty solid mate, I'd reckon on the video 300 could be accurate..ish?

Martin Blank
16th January 2009, 07:31
I was there. Both the organizers of the event and I say there were about 150. I don't know where the NY Times reporters got 300.

ls
16th January 2009, 16:40
I was there. Both the organizers of the event and I say there were about 150. I don't know where the NY Times reporters got 300.

They enjoy their fantasy of what American unionism is I think. ;) It suits their fantasy anyway their little take on it.

When you said
but most of them were not autoworkers how many of them would you estimate were autoworkers? As Brad said, I'm sure they would protest too, some if not all.

Martin Blank
16th January 2009, 20:30
When you said how many of them would you estimate were autoworkers? As Brad said, I'm sure they would protest too, some if not all.

My best guess is that about half of them were actual autoworkers.

Pogue
16th January 2009, 20:48
Solidarity forever!

ls
16th January 2009, 22:25
My best guess is that about half of them were actual autoworkers.

:thumbup1: That's a result.