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Holden Caulfield
10th January 2009, 14:09
For my locality...

It’s a big year for the far right in the long-term plan to copy their continental counterparts and enter the political mainstream. By the far right I mean the British National Party, there are other groups but these have either dwindled into insignificance, like the National Front, or were never significant in the first place, like the British People’s Party.

In June it’s the European elections and the BNP have a chance at winning a seat in the European Parliament in two areas, the North-West and Yorkshire. In 2004, the last Euro elections, it was the low vote in Cumbria that kept them out so in 2009 Cumbria will be on the front-line of BNP activity.

I don’t think I can make a prediction either way but it’s not an unlikely scenario that Nick Griffin will be one of 12 MEP’s for the North-West in June. Anti-fascists round here should be prepared for a large-scale BNP campaign featuring the regular involvement of national figures and bussing in of members from other areas for mass-leafleting and canvassing, as was the case on at least one day in Carlisle for the 2008 local elections.
Even if they don’t secured the desperately coveted postion MEP this year is likely to another one of steady growth for the far right with high votes at council elections and a more public profile despite the various hilarious mishaps that have accompanied this process, like losing the personal and work details of several thousand people.


Internal problems like the December 2007 split or losing the membership details of thousands of party members can unfortunately be glossed over as long as there is a sense that momentum and success in the party. This has ensured that fascists who had dropped out of active politics, like local party stalwart Martin Wingfield, returned like a bad smell. Expect them to vanish once again if it looks like they backed the wrong horse.

If the example of the National Front in the 1980’s anything to go by if the rise of the BNP is halted or stalled then inside the party different factions will turn on each other very quickly, and they know it. The constant air of sleaze and allegations of financial impropriety that have hung around chairman Nick Griffin for years is enough to ensure this.

The political temperature is going to heat up. This year is crucial for the far right and they will do their best not to let the opportunity slip through their fingers again. Political violence was a feature of the recent close council by-election in Whitehaven, a local member of an anti-racist group in the ward had his van smashed up on election night, in probably the first time in living memory in Cumbria.

stolen from here (http://nationofduncan.wordpress.com/)

rednordman
10th January 2009, 15:35
Its funny how the big 3 political parties are not doing much to stop this threat. I think that it is only Hazell Blairs (the Labour MP) who is the only one to dare bring up the fact that alot of people are getting clued up onto the increasingly obvious problem that Lab/Con/Lib are virtually the same party, and are looking for scape goats to deal with the fact that they (the big 3) cannot do anything to help them. Thus an increase in racism, xenophobia, and eventually support for the BNP. She made things worse by using the phrase 'white working class' (we are all in the same boat ffs!..well, apart from the wealthy).
What makes it worse is that right at this moment, no one on the left has anything. I'v been accused of being a hypocrite for opposing the BNPs right for a platform, simply because i am a communist. They seem not to understand that all the BNP are doing is stiring up hatred amongst communities, yet offer no solid solutions (They would never be solid to us anyhow), or ways of improving the country. At least on the left we do not judge people on the colour of their skin. Yet it seems some people see us as bad as the BNP. How, i'v got no idea. They just seem to have this ultimate faith in this so called 'third-way' that nu-labour boasted about in 1997, which is meant to be a blend of capitalism and socialism. We all know this is bullshit and that its 100% capitalism, but people are still blaming the things that are going wrong within this system on the 'leftist policies' and political correction (to name a few). They do not understand that non of these percieved problems are a result of socialism, because their never has been any socialism within Tony Blairs NuLabours third way model.
It would not suprise me if this is even a more succesfull year for the BNP and other far-right parties within elections because people are constantly being told that there is no other way, other than the big 3 parties, which despite their different lingo, are virtually the same. All the problems that have occured with Labour, would most likely have occured with the conservatives and the libs also.

Melbourne Lefty
12th January 2009, 05:39
If the example of the National Front in the 1980’s anything to go by if the rise of the BNP is halted or stalled then inside the party different factions will turn on each other very quickly,


Yup.

But even then they have come further than before, they probably wont fade into the background again like they did after Thatcher gave them a kicking in 79.



The political temperature is going to heat up. This year is crucial for the far right and they will do their best not to let the opportunity slip through their fingers again.


Yeah thats the way I see it. This years euro elections are the BNPs last chance to hit the big time. If they fail again after all the expectation they have built up the party will probably split in a big way, with the anti Islam "moderates" starting a new thing.

its the last roll of the dice, they are going to bankrupt the party for the chance to get their greedy mitts on some euro goodies.



Yet it seems some people see us as bad as the BNP


I have picked up that vibe on a couple of local newspaper articles about the BNP a while back.

I mean WTF?:confused:

rednordman
13th January 2009, 00:28
I have picked up that vibe on a couple of local newspaper articles about the BNP a while back.

I mean WTF?:confused: You know, i think it may have a little to do with the typical British or more specifically English mindset, fresh from having an empire. Yes, i know in common sense terms, the British Empire died ages ago, but alot of people in this country still quite suprisingly hold on to this stupid notion that they were once a 'great nation', headed by a 'superior' army and a 'rightcious' royal family. I remember my mate and myself having a really regretable argument with someone, one nye, because she was infavor of the royal family. She saw them as a symbol of protection and of something that was to be served (i say regretable, because we were both really, really pissed at the time she dropped that one, and my mate threw the riot act at her, and then some, and i had to restrain him:o).
To cut to the chase, people in the UK have been conditioned not to fight back, and just accept things the way they are. Anyone whom questions the traditional British authority, is questioned completely and seen as an outsider. People in this country have not quite yet thrown of the shackles of thier superiors and took the owness onto themselves to determine their society and future. Everyone seems terrified of this notion and thus, anyone whom comes up with anything opposing the ruling class, is seen as a 'traitor' and 'unpratriotic', and more often than not nowadays, Naive and uneducated. Those latter two are obviously to us, total rubbish, but these are the kind of insults i have come to expect when going against the status quo.

redSHARP
14th January 2009, 18:14
where i am from, Northeast US, there is no major right wing political party (republican, but they are nothing like the BNP). however, there is danger of fallout from this past election. Some people were talking about voting and joining more right wing groups. On the opposite hand, many youth were disappointed with capitalism and have opted to learn more about communism, socialism, and anarchism. many nazi skinhead groups are rising in numbers in rural areas and the National Alliance is still active. Yet the cities in the Northeast are solidly anti-facist, with a few pockets here and there. Overall, the possibility of change is in the air, but for now the status quo of left vs. right conflict is still present.

Melbourne Lefty
17th January 2009, 03:20
the National Alliance is still active


didnt they break up like ages ago?:confused:

redSHARP
18th January 2009, 19:58
nope, they are around just under rocks.