What does the revolution mean to you?

[EseSocialistaSurge]

I wasnt sure if this was the right spot to post this so my bad if its not but I wasnt sure where. Now I was just curious. What does the revolution mean to you? For me the whole reason I got interested in left wing ideology was for the better of the people. To create better living conditions, safer communities, unity, and to abolish racism (Etc.) A society in which everyone is, for the majority, content to share, appreciate each others work, feel loved, and of course peace. To emancipate those in oppression and not neccesarly bring vengence the opressors, but forgive them for their actions and assimilate them to the new society. And of course, it is an armed struggle of just arms where fellow brothers fight for those who cannot against the evil of all evils. So what does it mean to you?

[mykittyhasaboner]

Well, I'm sure everyone is "in it" for the same reasons you are. But the most specific reasons, (and the reason why I came to adopt left-wing ideals/perspectives etc) is because I absolutely hate money, I don't want to be controlled by it. Also because of opposition to conservative ideals like nationalism and theism.

[ckaihatsu]

The overall need for a socialist / communist revolution is to deal with the issue of * surplus labor value *, embodied in the * means of mass production * -- and, additionally, the land and natural resources of the planet.

(I'd like to note that the development of the (industrial) means of mass production is the highest, greatest level of technology that human civilization has come up with so far, and is also the source of our current production of surplus labor value.)

The overriding concern of a socialist / communist system is to abolish (inherently disproportionate) private claims to the means of mass production. Another way of putting this is to say that *every single person on earth* would have a legitimate claim to a *proportionate* say over their own labor power, collectivized in the factory / workplace setting in which they're working, *if* they want to work at all.


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[I]t's useful to focus on the definition that communism is concerned with the means of * mass * production.

The means of mass production * must * be collectivized into a communist political economy -- no matter what our political orientation is, or what our personal preferences are -- because capitalism has no way forward for the management of the means of mass (industrial) production. We saw in the twentieth century what happens when the major imperial powers of the world run out of economic momentum -- instead of being able to move forward they finally have to stop. Once stopped they look around and all they see is their political rivals to their sides -- other nations -- and they begin to whip up their own, nationalist war campaigns to eliminate any competing claims to whatever's left over -- local industrial production, workers, raw materials, markets, whatever.

[Killfacer]

That i won't have to work in asda.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

That i wont have to pass the public school every fucking day and see all the kids who are gonna get university scholarships and lots of money.

[Pogue]

That i wont have to pass the public school every fucking day and see all the kids who are gonna get university scholarships and lots of money.

Wot wot?

[ZeroNowhere]

School's out. Forever.

[INDK]

I want those who live unneccessarily uncomfortable lives as a result of Capitalism to be more free, more happy, and more materially prosperous. I don't want to be controlled and I myself want a more free happy and prosperous life. I want there to be no racism, no discrimination based on sex, religion, orientation, etc., no crimes that were results of Capitalism's social grievance. The abolition of Capitalism, to me, can eventually bring about this united society. Of course, it can sound far-fetched, but I certainly believe that though not perfect our ideology can bring on a better living standard.

[Reclaimed Dasein]

For me, the Revolution means the ontological call of this Dasein to itself in its ownmost. Authenticity requires that the Dasein draw its historicity to itself to open the possibilities of its situation. This authenticity as projecting towards possiblities emerges out of the Dasein's encirclement of death. As such, authenticity isn't simply formal decisionism, so with this world-historical position it must be my Fate.

[Sawtooth]

I want to be free from rent, free from debt, free from theft, from religion, from class, from hatred, from violence, from guilt, from exploitation, and from injustice.

"I don't want to be no movie star, and I don't want to drive no fancy car. I just wanna be free to live my life."

The revolution is not a bunch of people running around with guns. The revolution is a society reorganizing itself along righteous and egalitarian lines.

[Pogue]

For me, the Revolution means the ontological call of this Dasein to itself in its ownmost. Authenticity requires that the Dasein draw its historicity to itself to open the possibilities of its situation. This authenticity as projecting towards possiblities emerges out of the Dasein's encirclement of death. As such, authenticity isn't simply formal decisionism, so with this world-historical position it must be my Fate.

But in what circumstances?

[Pogue]

School's out. Forever.

Haha, I must agree.

[Pogue]

Theres too many reasons for me, I'll post them later, the same as many others though.