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KurtFF8
4th January 2009, 20:52
Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/04/france-government-left-wing-extremism)


Despite claims of exaggeration, government reports insist a new generation of extremists will soon launch a wave of sabotage and bombings

* Jason Burke in Paris
* The Observer, Sunday 4 January 2009
* Article history

The French government fears a wave of extreme left-wing terrorism this year with the possible sabotage of key infrastructure, kidnappings of major business figures or even bomb attacks.

Secret French government reports, seen by the Observer, describe an "elevated threat" from an "international European network ... with a strong presence in France" after the radicalisation of "a new generation of activists" in recent years. Senior analysts and experts linked to the government have drawn parallels with the Action Directe group, which carried out 50 or more attacks in the early 1980s. Others cite the example of the Baader-Meinhof gang.

A report by the French domestic intelligence service talks of "a rebirth of the violent extreme left" across Europe that is likely to be aggravated by the effects of the economic crisis. Other secret documents expose alleged links with activists in Italy, Greece, Germany and the UK. "It has been growing for three or four years now and the violence is getting closer and closer to real terrorism," said Eric Dénécé, director of the French centre of intelligence research and a former Defence Ministry consultant.

While some believe such claims to be scaremongering, the present political atmosphere is tense, with many among right-wing President Nicolas Sarkozy's aides fearing a repeat of the violence in Athens last month, when angry and alienated young people and a hard core of violent left-wing extremists rioted for several days, causing significant damage and bringing the city to a halt.

Last week hundreds of fly-posters around Paris called on young people "forced to work for a world that poisons us" to follow the example of their Greek counterparts. "The insurrection goes on. If it takes hold everywhere, no one can stop it," the posters said.

The recent intelligence reports have blamed violent demonstrations against changes in employment law in 2006, often by middle-class young people, for the recruitment of large numbers of new activists.

A series of incidents last year confirmed the fears of French police. In January two activists were arrested in possession of what was alleged to be bomb-making materials. In November nine people were arrested after a lengthy surveillance operation in the central French village of Tarnac, where they had set up a commune. Two of the alleged ringleaders, Julien Coupat, 34, and his partner Yildune Lévy, 25, are still in prison accused of sabotaging high-speed TGV railway lines and "associating with wrongdoers with terrorist aims".

Gilles Gray, assistant director of economic protection of the French domestic intelligence service, spoke recently of "a philosophy that was spreading in Europe". The arrests in Tarnac were "a strong message ... addressed to those who might be thinking about committing similar acts," he said. "We hope that this affair has put a stop for a time to this kind of violent action [and will avoid] a return of Action Directe."

Investigators believe that the arrests at Tarnac provoked "reprisals" in Athens, where the offices of the French news agency Agence France-Presse were attacked with makeshift incendiary devices, and in Hamburg, where the French consulate was daubed with paint.

A claim of responsibility for the sabotage of the TGV lines was, police say, sent to a German newspaper from Hanover and signed "those who have had enough ... in memory of Sébastien", believed to be a reference to Sébastien Briat, a young anti-nuclear militant crushed by a nuclear waste train in eastern France exactly four years before the night of the recent spate of sabotage. Coupat and Lévy had taken part in demonstrations and actions in Germany, the US and the UK.

Coupat has also been accused by investigators of anonymously writing a book, The Coming Insurrection, published by a little known Paris publishing house in 2007. The book, which has been translated into English and posted on US and UK anarchist websites, was found in the possession of three young activists arrested after detonating a bomb in a field. It contains instructions about sabotaging railways and other means of "destroying the power of the police, seizing local political power by the people, and blocking the economy". A statement from the publishing house said the author was "a committee from the subversive tendency".

But some accuse France's right-wing government of both exaggerating and exploiting the left-wing threat. "They are turning my son into a scapegoat for a generation who have started to think for themselves about capitalism and its wrongs and to demonstrate against the government," said Gérard Coupat, father of the alleged ringleader of the Tarnac group.

"The government is keeping my son in prison because a man of the left with the courage to demonstrate is the last thing they want now, with the economic situation getting worse and worse. Nothing like this has happened in France since the war. It is very serious."

Author and researcher Christophe Bourseiller told the Observer the threat was being exaggerated. "Yes, there is a certain renewed level of agitation, but there is a huge difference between deliberately slowing down a few trains without injuring anyone and something like the Madrid bomb blasts," he said. "The Ministry of the Interior has made it look like the Tarnac arrests halted a serious campaign of violence with a huge, huge media operation."

Certainly there is a widespread fear at the ministry in the Place Beauveau of violent protests in the coming months. A powerful and growing movement among schoolchildren forced the tactical withdrawal of wide-ranging reform plans after demonstrations in Lyon led to clashes with the police, mass arrests and the burning of cars.

Trade unions have promised a series of mass stoppages in the coming months. Among a population already made bitter by static salaries, rising prices and structurally high levels of unemployment, the lay-offs and wage cuts that could result from the economic crisis will fuel anger.

"Whether or not the Tarnac group is guilty, there are other groups in France, in Italy, in Germany, which, having lost faith in a political left in disarray, are tempted by violent action and are in a phase of semi-clandestinity," Alain Bauer, a criminologist at the Sorbonne, told the Observer. "With Action Directe and the Red Brigades, there was a first intellectual phase, followed by a radicalisation and then a transition to physical action. Books like The Coming Insurrection are strongly reminiscent of the first phase."

Other similarities include the tactics envisaged and the middle-class, educated profile of most of the activists.

Socialist Scum
4th January 2009, 21:05
Just realised what section I was in, so I edited the one smiley response.

It's good news. The fact the left still holds such fear/respect in France is a sign that, like I did say, 2009 onwards will be a rebirth of socialism. :drool:

Mindtoaster
5th January 2009, 00:39
This strikes me as scare-mongering more then anything, as the author of this article seems to suggest. Even if there is the possibility of a resurgence, I don't like it. History has proven that small bands of students waging an urban guerrilla war are unable to provoke the masses to revolution. These bands become far too easy a target of the capitalist media.

I think a return of left-wing terrorist groups could halt any progress we have made, or will make in its tracks. We need a revolution, not a rebellion.

Die Neue Zeit
5th January 2009, 00:42
^^^ My sentiments exactly. :)


"Whether or not the Tarnac group is guilty, there are other groups in France, in Italy, in Germany, which, having lost faith in a political left in disarray, are tempted by violent action and are in a phase of semi-clandestinity," Alain Bauer, a criminologist at the Sorbonne, told the Observer. "With Action Directe and the Red Brigades, there was a first intellectual phase, followed by a radicalisation and then a transition to physical action. Books like The Coming Insurrection are strongly reminiscent of the first phase."

"In disarray" means that most everybody "in disarray" has long forgotten the principle of partiinost. As for the insurrectionists, they want their revolutionary socialism without any worker movement whatsoever. :glare:

DancingLarry
5th January 2009, 01:40
Bourgeois propaganda issued solely for the purpose of sowing confusion, deliberately conflating militant organized resistance with wanton terrorist violence. Every leftist who gets caught up joining with Sarkozy's tut-tutting should be ashamed of themselves, as each and every one of us are the targets, as the "terrorism" trials of the RNC 8 make clear beyond a shadow of a doubt.

piet11111
5th January 2009, 03:00
This strikes me as scare-mongering more then anything, as the author of this article seems to suggest. Even if there is the possibility of a resurgence, I don't like it. History has proven that small bands of students waging an urban guerrilla war are unable to provoke the masses to revolution. These bands become far too easy a target of the capitalist media.

I think a return of left-wing terrorist groups could halt any progress we have made, or will make in its tracks. We need a revolution, not a rebellion.

tell that to the french anno 1968 :laugh: De Gaulle was shitting his pants convinced the commies would take over.
if it wasn't for the trade union leadership and the stalinists he would have been right.

and then there was greece.

Annie K.
5th January 2009, 04:03
I think a return of left-wing terrorist groups could halt any progress we have made, or will make in its tracks. We need a revolution, not a rebellion.Piet is right to remind 68. After 40 years, you're still as willing as ever to back up the governments' lies against those who didn't forget that revolutions are made by revolutionnaries. And history gives its lessons to deaf ears on this particular subject. The people who are now accused of being a terrorist threat seems to be the only part of the left that have learned something from the errors of the activists of the seventies. In these conditions, I really wonder what progress you're talking about.


So, back to the facts :
Sabotage isn't terrorism, in its goals as much as in its methods.
We certainly won't assassinate again before long.
The french minister of the interior is not a valuable source of information.

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Les bureaucrates aux poubelles, sans eux on aurait gagné !

Herman
5th January 2009, 08:49
Government propaganda and nonsense. This is just another attempt by French government officials to scare common folk with the famous rallying cry of terrorism.

Post-Something
5th January 2009, 11:38
This strikes me as scare-mongering more then anything, as the author of this article seems to suggest. Even if there is the possibility of a resurgence, I don't like it. History has proven that small bands of students waging an urban guerrilla war are unable to provoke the masses to revolution. These bands become far too easy a target of the capitalist media.

I think a return of left-wing terrorist groups could halt any progress we have made, or will make in its tracks. We need a revolution, not a rebellion.

Err, I don't think that's really the case. The masses have been very active in France if I remember. There have been quite a lot of strikes going on, and people there are getting very dissatisfied with the government for certain policies they're trying to pass. For example this identity database, where they store loads of unecessary details about everyone; people have been going crazy about it. I think the masses are seriously looking for an alternative to their current system, and don't forget their history!

lombas
5th January 2009, 11:52
What fucking progress, comrades?

duffers
5th January 2009, 14:47
This strikes me as scare-mongering more then anything, as the author of this article seems to suggest. Even if there is the possibility of a resurgence, I don't like it. History has proven that small bands of students waging an urban guerrilla war are unable to provoke the masses to revolution. These bands become far too easy a target of the capitalist media.

I think a return of left-wing terrorist groups could halt any progress we have made, or will make in its tracks. We need a revolution, not a rebellion.

Jeez, where did you leave your balls?

"left-wing terrorist groups"? What the fuck are you doing here?

OneNamedNameLess
5th January 2009, 15:00
Jeez, where did you leave your balls?

"left-wing terrorist groups"? What the fuck are you doing here?


Brigate Rosse. Red Brigades in english.

They have exsisted and were pretty influential.

Anarchist terrorist groups exsisted in France in the 19th century also.

Left-wing terrorist groups are'nt fictional.

duffers
5th January 2009, 19:03
I'm quite aware of revolutionary groups, thanks.

Point was, there is no such thing as a "left wing terrorist group". These men are not terrorists. That's a state term that has no place for militant socialists who favour the armament rather than the argument. This isn't in a crime in mine or anyone else's eyes, or so should be the case.

KurtFF8
5th January 2009, 21:02
I think that leftists are too quick to either dismiss all small armed leftist groups or too quick to praise them. Groups like the Weathermen, RAF, etc etc need to be analyzed in their specific political/economic/cultural contexts and we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss or praise them.

Granted all of those groups have failed, and we can certainly point to a failure of building within the working class in most of those cases, but we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss armed tactics. After all, let's not forget the Bolshevik revolution. (Yes I know, different situation, but I believe the point still stands)

Mindtoaster
5th January 2009, 22:26
Jeez, where did you leave your balls?

"left-wing terrorist groups"? What the fuck are you doing here?

Fuck off

Are you going to deny that they terrorized capitalists and the state? Its a legitimate tactic if you don't terrorize civilians.

Mindtoaster
5th January 2009, 22:27
What fucking progress, comrades?

Our numbers and sympathy for our cause is slowly rising. That could grind to a halt before it even builds up steam

Annie K.
5th January 2009, 23:50
Apparently, it's not the cause of all of us that gets sympathy.

Mindtoaster
5th January 2009, 23:55
Apparently, it's not the cause of all of us that gets sympathy.

Not sure what you mean, but I am referring to anti-capitalism as a whole

duffers
6th January 2009, 13:30
I'm sorry, but I don't find "terrorising" the state nor the capitalists as something to condemn.

I agree with the sentiment about civilians rendering guerrilla actions fruitless, but surely you're not suggesting the vast majority of actions undertaken have more often than not injured innocents?

What Annie K. said was quite explanatory; when "our numbers" resort to violence, not much sympathy is received from fence sitters like yourself, eh?

Kassad
6th January 2009, 14:25
I'm sorry, but I don't find "terrorising" the state nor the capitalists as something to condemn.

I agree with the sentiment about civilians rendering guerrilla actions fruitless, but surely you're not suggesting the vast majority of actions undertaken have more often than not injured innocents?

What Annie K. said was quite explanatory; when "our numbers" resort to violence, not much sympathy is received from fence sitters like yourself, eh?

We're trying to build a movement. What you're advocating is terrorism, as much as I hate using the term. Where does it stop? I can terrorize my local Bank of America, but what do you define as terrorizing? Destroying the building? What about a Wal-Mart? Are civilian casualties justified in your terrorist actions?

Most of us on here acknowledge that if violence is necessary, we will use it. When you make broad descriptions of 'terrorizing the state and capitalists', you revert to tactics that will turn a good amount of people against us before they get a chance to understand us. By helping people understand class conflict, which they are all immersed in, we can liberate them and gain significant presence in nations across the globe.

Also, calling people 'fence sitters' is a quick way of telling us to dismiss anything you say, since it likely isn't worth reading.

duffers
6th January 2009, 14:42
What am I advocating exactly? You've just assumed I'm advocating [insert state term here], haven't you? Is that poor analogy meant to be comparative to the Red Brigade, those that participated in the Krondstadt rebellion, Saor Eire, Action directe, so on and so forth? Regarding civilian casualties, you evidently didn't read what I said.

Again, you assumed I stated I thought the propaganda of the deed should be utilised at will, with no restraint. Can't burn all your strawmans down, you either respond to actual points that exist, or you piss off.

Ironically, you didn't say the words fence or sitter, and it still wasn't worth reading.

Kassad
6th January 2009, 14:45
Terrorism isn't a state term. It's a term that has recently been adopted by authoritarian governments attempting to use fear tactics to gain control over the general population, but it still has a definition. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.

Well, since I don't see you being more specific than stating that we shouldn't condemn terrorism against the state or capitalists, I'm left to assume what you mean. So what do you suggest we do? Where do you draw the line?

duffers
6th January 2009, 14:59
Looking at either origin, or current use would suggest it's a state term. More so the fact, regardless of political persuasion, any sedition is branded as 'terrorism'. For instance, in 1793, during the French Revolution. What was that about ignorance being blissful?

Do you often assume as the result of a brief point of view?

I draw the line at civilians, but I don't see why given considerable numbers, support or will, why these groups shouldn't come to fruition.

Militant action, something "building a movement" however often said, cannot be rivaled in its efficiency.

Mindtoaster
6th January 2009, 22:53
numbers, support or will, why these groups shouldn't come to fruition.


And therein lies the problem.

Fence-sitter? How about I don't want to see the movement set back for more and more decades then it already has been

If you think two masked leftists shooting a random cop is going to build any kind of support base then you are completely delusional. The state will turn this around and blow it back in our faces in a second. I rather not see the revolution in Greece die in its infancy.

Annie K.
6th January 2009, 23:31
The situations in france and in greece are different. In france, stopping a train is called terrorism by the governement, while in greece, shooting at a cop is called terrorism by othodox communists.

"It's under control, sir".

If the movement is not able to draw people to think idependently from the dominant moral values, it don't moves enough.

DancingLarry
7th January 2009, 00:28
Here's what's actually happening on the left in France that doesn't have anything to do with government strawmen, set-ups, provocations, etc:

the New Anti-Capitalist Party (http://links.org.au/node/814)

bcbm
7th January 2009, 01:34
I'm quite aware of revolutionary groups, thanks.

Point was, there is no such thing as a "left wing terrorist group". These men are not terrorists. That's a state term that has no place for militant socialists who favour the armament rather than the argument. This isn't in a crime in mine or anyone else's eyes, or so should be the case.

What a stupid, rose-colored glasses view of history you have. Certainly opening fire in Lod airport was not terrorism, or separating Jews from other passengers on hijacked planes, or throwing grenades into random shops, or... I could go on.

duffers
7th January 2009, 16:38
Yeah, I can see how activity for armchair revolutionaries is a problem. Marxism in praxis, problematic!

You speak of a fictional movement occurring, yet you evidently don't know how it will be galvanised.

Stop this nonsense about "two masked leftists"; propaganda of the deed doesn't only result in the shooting of a policeman. What makes action respectable is numbers; as Annie K. touched upon it, that's why you have affirmative action not being condemned in Greece.

duffers
7th January 2009, 16:46
You could, but without understanding what I've said, it'd be rather moot.

Attacks on the state, propaganda of the deed, affirmative action against capitalism, none of this can be deemed as terrorism as neither fear is caused amongst the general populace on account of them not being a target or harmed (or so should be the case) nor is the cause unjust. In contrast, attacks, as practiced by the far right, on the general populace, ala nail bombs in Camden, loyalist groups in the north of Ireland, and so on, are terrorist in their definition and nature.

The point was, the state denounces class warfare as terrorism, and will group revolutionaries amongst fascists, religious fundamentalists and criminals. Terrorism has, and infact does exist, but then I've never said contrary.

Think before responding.

bcbm
8th January 2009, 20:57
Ugh, did we really lose a whole page of posts?

Reclaimed Dasein
10th January 2009, 19:58
It would certainly be nice if we saw of resurgence of left violence coupled with the resurgence of leftism in general, but I'm tentatively optimistic about this. France does have a strong history of leftism, student activism, and militant unions, but I don't know if the situation there now will be enough to activate them. Could someone living in France give us a better idea of what things look like there on the ground?

redarmyfaction38
11th January 2009, 23:43
i thought i'd already posted on this but can't find it anywhere:confused:
left wing "terrorist" organisations tend to be born out of the failure of accepted working class organisations (trade unions/communist parties) to carry through the political and social revolution that the revolutionary situation has thrust upon them.
france 1968 for example (or should that read europe 1968?).
todays situation is similar but not the same, we have a revolutionary situation but no attempt to gain any kind of progress by the "accepted" working class organisations.
there are rebellions in greece, there are minority socialist groups within trade unions and political parties striving to create the "revolutionary party?"
but in truth, none of them have enough influence to drive the crisis in capitalism into the potential revolutionary situation that exists.
"terrorist" organisations will be born out of this failure.
whether we, as revolutionaries, support them or not, should be based on cold marxist analysis of their effectiveness in particular political, social and economic conditions.
there is no right or wrong.
in my opinion.