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johny
31st December 2008, 20:07
Who is more realistic? Considering revolutions and counterrevolutions always having more resources than revolutions to achieve their desired goals.

Current society is not going anywhere fast, it will remain the way it is for centuries to come and many centuries more due to society ability to adjust and adapt to any rebellions. This being the fact is it not useless to engage in revolutionary action and instead focus your energy on reforming society to make it more humane and just for the living instead of fantasizing about unlikely and unforeseen revolutions?

ComradeOm
1st January 2009, 00:11
Seeing as this is the History forum I assume that you have specific examples (of failed revolutionaries and successful reformists) in mind?

I'll tell you what, I'll throw out an example of my own regarding the supposed stability of society. In February 1913 the Russian Empire celebrated three centuries of Romanov rule. Huge state festivities were held across the immense Empire and particularly in St Petersburg where the huge crowds turned out to see the Tsar public appearance in front of Kazan Cathedral. Later in the year the Imperial family were greeted by similarly large crowds when they undertook a summer tour of the historical Muscovy lands. The jubilee was a triumph for Nicholas II, menaced by the possibility of constitutional reform less than a decade previously, and marked the high point of Romanov pomp and splendour. Foreign journalists fell over themselves to flatter the Tsar and conveyed scenes of great majesty and power back to their readers

A mere four years later this society was aflame; the Supreme Autocrat and his dynasty were dead; and the failures of reform laid bare for all to see. So much for the "ability to adjust and adapt to any rebellion"

Black Sheep
1st January 2009, 00:48
I m not sure i understand what the OP is asking..

There are countless examples of political parties, clearly refomist,degenerating into pure capitalist ones as soon as they come to power,and many morebeing just anti-goverment (in countries where one or two parties get the vast majority of the votes),screaming around the 'humanitarian capitalism','the people over the profits' crap.

What you should do IMO,is have a revolutionary goal,and in the way fight for small gains and conquests for the working class.