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[Die Neue Zeit]

However, we are not only trying to address those workers in the struggle, and indeed may not be addressing any of them. It is equally important to draw a balance sheet of struggles for other workers. That involves an honest analysis of what we see as mistakes, or weaknesses.

I don't draw this distinction of 'revolutionary action'. I see things as part of a working class struggle. The fight to protect jobs and living conditions today is intrinsically linked to the fight for workers' power tomorrow.

That last statement of yours reeks of yet more Left Economism. :(


When you talk about 'vitriol...against worker institutions', I presume that you are talking about the unions. We believe that the unions are no longer 'worker institutions', and haven't been for decades.

Much less all those decentralized "social forum movements" in Latin America :p

[Devrim]

Much less all those decentralized "social forum movements" in Latin America :p

What on earth are you on about?

Devrim

[Die Neue Zeit]

The mass strike fetish of left-communists is *very* analogous to these kinds of movements:

http://www.turbulence.org.uk/index.php?s=fumagali

[Leo]

Jacob your posts in this thread are one-liners which as got nothing to do with the topic in question. Please don't derail discussions with irrelevant one-liners (or links to your previous posts).

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[Die Neue Zeit]

Please re-label the thread "Left-Communist Economism in the Fetish for Spontaneity."

The "mass strike" usually revolves around the defensive demands you mentioned, but in no situation whatsoever have they ever seriously posed the question of political power by the working class as a whole.