KurtFF8
26th December 2008, 17:06
I didn't know much about Cyprus other than they had the EU's only Communist Party president of a nation. Then I read this article (http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n08/ande01_.html) which shed some insight on the history of the divisions of Cyprus.
The article shows how Cyprus was divided among imperialist powers for direct (and sometimes even overtly admittedly) national gains by countries like the UK.
Quite a good read, I recommend it to anyone who wants to know more about Cyprus and why it's divided.
F9
26th December 2008, 17:32
Firstly, Cyprus dont have president of a Communist Party!!AKEL is a reformist party, nowhere in its papers says that its a Communist party, and in my personal experience, AKEL is just a fucking right wing party, with the "mask" of the party of workers!In every one of their parades, their members are holding the cyprus flag and even get it that far holding a greek flag!!They are just fucking nationalists hypocrites, either saying that they are cypriots or greeks!The situation is ridiculous, i hear a lot of people saying they are part of AKEL and communists, but since the time you get one word out of them about communism, they start saying stupidities, they have no clue about it, and in most times you will find a banch of factors pointing that they are just some "kiddos" who just like the word communists!A huge amount of them are racists, especially against everything that can named under the turkish name, including people etc, mostly they are homophobic too with high religious sentiment!
AKEL may have been ,before 30 and more years, a small step before being a communist marxist-leninist party, but nowadays are far from being such!
And the president himself never said that he is indeed a Communist!
I got sick and tired from AKEL members down here(as almost everyone in my family is), they just say they are communists, and they are putting such a shitty behavior(racism, sexism, nationalism etc) that its a huge disadvantage on the name of Communism, and even that a LOT people will say you that they are indeed Communists, in reality they are not as far as socialists!
Cyprus has one of the best economies in the EU, economical crisis didnt affect cyprus at all so far, the vast majority of the people are working for the government, very few "real workers" exist and a big number of them is in reality people who came here from another "countrie" to find a better life!So no a bunch of bourgeoise people being members of a party dont make themselves "communists".
Now in the "history" of the division down here(i didnt read the article), the one sides faults the other and vice versa, they are the bad guys, they killed our childrens etc etc!However the truth is only one, the ones that have the fault of the division are fucking nationalists greeks and turkishs who killed people from each side, fucking imperialist countries(USA,Greece,Turkey and UK mainly and of course NATO) and fucking states!A lot of things happened to get to this situation, but the "solution" isnt to find the "solution" unite Cyprus, the real solution is to bring down all the boarders, all the fantastic lines that divide people and not earth, that divide our freedom!
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KurtFF8
26th December 2008, 18:34
Does working for the government make a person no longer a "real worker"?
Anyway, I wasn't making any judgments about how socialist the AKEL is, this thread is about the divisions of Cyprus by imperialist powers and how, regardless of whether they are "real socialists", a party called a Communist Party had a president of an EU country.
The article does a good job at explaining exactly how outside and inside forces helped divide the country in the post war period.
F9
26th December 2008, 20:24
Does working for the government make a person no longer a "real worker"?
Wrong typing probably, the "correct" was no proletarian!
Anyway, I wasn't making any judgments about how socialist the AKEL is, this thread is about the divisions of Cyprus by imperialist powers and how, regardless of whether they are "real socialists", a party called a Communist Party had a president of an EU country.
But they dont even say anywhere as a party that they are indeed communists!
The article does a good job at explaining exactly how outside and inside forces helped divide the country in the post war period.
I hope so, i am not getting "in trouble" to read it, because i probably would know most of them, and i cant spare so much time and effort to read so big article in english!I hope it dont have any false situations in there to change peoples thought for or against one "side"!
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