So if Marxism is the true ideal why where others created

[Brother No. 1]

Comrades this question puzzles me if Marxism is the true communism and Socialism why were other ideolgies created? please this is just a question no negative comments on me ok.

[Pogue]

By other ideologies do you mean other types of socialism such as Maoism and Anarchism, other political ideologies such as Fascism, or other ideas in the world such as Hinduism?

[Vendetta]

Because some don't see it that way.

Easy.

[Brother No. 1]

i mean other types of socailism

[revolution inaction]

Communism existed well before marxism as did various kinds of socialism like anarchism.
And marxism isn't an ideal it's a way of looking at economics and society

[Brother No. 1]

ok then and yes Communism has existed before like if you religious then you'd say jesus created communsim but other than that your right

[lombas]

"Were created", you pretend like it's all God's plan Locke wrote some books and Marx met Engels...

:bored:

[Pogue]

Different types of socialism exist because people analyse failings and succeses and whats neccesary differentlty and come to different conclusions, i.e. I am an anarchist as opposed to a Leninist because I believe the vanguard and state are corrupting.

[revolution inaction]

ok then and yes Communism has existed before like if you religious then you'd say jesus created communsim but other than that your right

what am i wrong about?

[Brother No. 1]

your not wrong about anything just saying a religoius would say that but still your 100% right from where I'm standing

[scarletghoul]

Marxism is only the 'true ideal' for marxists.

[mikelepore]

No "ism" as a whole, that is, the collection of everything ever written by a particular author or organization, should be described as "true" or "ideal." Each individual sentence is either a true statement or a false statement. When I read Marx, I conclude that most of the statements there are true. For each claim or hypothesis that I consider wrong, there are many others that I find to be true. Therefore, I call myself a Marxist.

[Brother No. 1]

very true comrade you make a exelent point

[ZeroNowhere]

Is it even worth answering this question? I mean, come on...

[Bronsky]

Because some don't see it that way.

Easy.

It's more than the choice of the individual though Vendetta. Its about the forces that exist within a society and their relationship within the class struggle. I know it may be un-modern to talk about the class struggle but take a look around you, isn’t the fight being set up going to be between the ruling class intent on keeping their disintegrating power and the working class forced by what Marxist call the objective conditions (the credit crunch) to defend their living, as the crisis deepens the ruling class will rely on its last card in the pack Fascism to head off the oncoming revolution of the workers. Take Germany in the 1930’s it wasn’t that Hitler who represented the last card was stronger than the working class, the facts were that the main party’s betrayed the workers. Social Democracy as it has and will always do and the Stalinist Communist party who claimed the SDP as being no better than the Nazis, they called them social fascists.

The tiny Left Opposition members in Germany called for a unity between the workers party’s while keeping their independence. Trotsky put forward the slogan “march separately fight together” to defeat the Nazis.There is no doubt that if that slogan had been turned into actual fact Hitler would never have come to power and the history of the world would be far different at this time.

What we have to learn from Germany and others through history is the importance of the revolutionary party, without it the workers will face the same fait as those in the 1930s, defeat and the world turned into one big battle field.