Ultra HD

[Dr Mindbender]

Found this interesting, apparently it will be the next generation technology after HDTV.

http://www.ultrahdtv.net/

Edit - the first UHDTV.

http://uk.gizmodo.com/2008/05/19/the_first_ultra_hd_tv.html

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

You know, I'd be much more interested if they came up with a 3D-TV system that doesn't require those stupid glasses.

[Dr Mindbender]

You know, I'd be much more interested if they came up with a 3D-TV system that doesn't require those stupid glasses.

Is that even possible? It would be pretty hard to get things to look solid, and even if they could it would probably be next to impossible to send it by a televised signal and the size of the discs required to store the data would be phenomenal.

[piet11111]

http://www.reviewspring.com/3d-lcd-monitors-a80.php

3d is already done

http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/26/lg-to-launch-one-or-two-3d-tvs-in-2009/

[Cult of Reason]

What is the point of this? I do not even see the point of vanilla HDTV: "low" definition TV looks fine to me.

[piet11111]

What is the point of this? I do not even see the point of vanilla HDTV: "low" definition TV looks fine to me.

promoting consumerism.

but downloaded tv shows in a HD format does make a difference as they start out taking a bigger part of the screen without needing to maximize them just to see what is going on so on pc i love HDTV.
but on tv it doesn't really make a difference to me.

[Dr Mindbender]

What is the point of this? I do not even see the point of vanilla HDTV: "low" definition TV looks fine to me.

Its pretty essential for seventh generation gaming. When you play a PS3 or X box 360 through an SDTV text becomes fuzzy and details become lost. Such was the case for me until i had enough saved up for my first HD, it looked truly awful.

Play Call of duty 4 and you'll understand. :)

[Dr Mindbender]

3d is already done



I'll believe it when i see it.

[Jazzratt]

Hey, hey new and exciting shiny shit I can't afford, hooray science.

Perhaps some advances in our understanding of the cosmos or human longevity or something would be interesting, but this seems like a pointless distraction.

[Dr Mindbender]

meh, its fun to look at while we're waiting for the cures for cancer and aids.

Personally i dont think advances in this field are a bad thing, I dont know about you but personally i cant wait for a star trek 2nd generation style holodeck.

[piet11111]

Hey, hey new and exciting shiny shit I can't afford, hooray science.

Perhaps some advances in our understanding of the cosmos or human longevity or something would be interesting, but this seems like a pointless distraction.

in the case of Phillips its the entertainment part of the business that allowed it to make the money it needed to start developing medical equipment.

it might be insignificant to science that improves our lives but as a way to gather money that can be invested in medical science it is a good thing.

[Pawn Power]

What is the point of this? I do not even see the point of vanilla HDTV: "low" definition TV looks fine to me.

Even more so, what is the point of this thread? What does this have to do with revleft?

[Dr Mindbender]

Even more so, what is the point of this thread? What does this have to do with revleft?

Nothing from a leftist perspective per se, i just thought it fit under the S&E genre which is why i posted it here rather than chit chat.

Anyway, all human progress regardless of how trivial it seems is progressive.

[Pawn Power]

Anyway, all human progress regardless of how trivial it seems is progressive.

Why?

[Dr Mindbender]

Why?

The argument should be self explanatory.

[Killfacer]

Very interesting. Also fucking annoying. So essentially ill spend loads on Blue Ray discs only for these to come out and make them obsolete.

[Dr Mindbender]

Very interesting. Also fucking annoying. So essentially ill spend loads on Blue Ray discs only for these to come out and make them obsolete.


Nah don't worry about it man, I think standard HD will be with us for some time to come. Its under debate wether or not the next gen consoles will even support this new tech, and they reckon its pretty unlikely.

You know the way 1080p televisions are only effective on 40 inch and above HD screens placed 6-8 feet from the observer? There was a debate on the comments in the boards that these things will only be effective on 300 inch and above screens at 30 feet from the observer. So these will only be for cinemas and dedicated movie buffs. You'd have to remove one of the walls in your living room and replace it with a tv to get your money's worth i think!

:lol:

[KC]

Yeah image technology has basically been perfected in terms of image quality for consumer televisions with 1080p. The only way to go for these TV's really is in terms of energy efficiency, lifespan and color enhancement (blacker blacks, primarily).

It's really disappointing that programming these days is broadcast only in 720p/1080i given the fact that 1080p is basically the upper limit for consumer televisions. Does it really cost that much more to broadcast in 1080p?

What I'm really waiting for is image quality of projectors to go up to meet current technological standards of televisions.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Yeah image technology has basically been perfected in terms of image quality for consumer televisions with 1080p. The only way to go for these TV's really is in terms of energy efficiency, lifespan and color enhancement (blacker blacks, primarily).

Couldn't they achieve that by turning off the little cell/pixel things?

[KC]

Couldn't they achieve that by turning off the little cell/pixel things?

Yes and no. The contrast ratio (the ratio of the whitest whites to blackest blacks, which is what we're talking about) has many factors that affect it. One of the most significant factors is the backlight; basically when they "turn off" the LCD the backlight still can shine through it, making it "less black". So there's been a lot of developments in designing a backlight that "turns off" on an LCD that is also turned off.

[spice756]

meh, its fun to look at while we're waiting for the cures for cancer and aids.


Personally i dont think advances in this field are a bad thing, I dont know about you but personally i cant wait for a star trek 2nd generation style holodeck.

Money computers ,cell-phones ,TV ,blu Ray ,np3 ,ipods ,communication so on = profit.

Finding cures to cancer ,virus, bacteria ,diabetic ,asthma ,allergic to this and that ,old age so on = no profit.



Very interesting. Also fucking annoying. So essentially ill spend loads on Blue Ray discs only for these to come out and make them obsolete.


I never buy when any thing new comes out I give it 5 or 8 years to the cost comes down.


Also you cannot buy that TV to 2011 and movies made in hollywood the resolution is not that high ,cable or satellite providers do not have that resolution , cameras do not have that resolution ,and no disc or movie that has that resolution or machine like a blue ray player !!

It cost too much and take long time to get other things like I was saying above to support that resolution .Many plasma TV's are still $3,000 !!! To the cost comes down and every thing support that resolution 2020 or 2025.

[bcbm]

Finding cures to cancer ,virus, bacteria ,diabetic ,asthma ,allergic to this and that ,old age so on = no profit.

Hahahahah. You must live in a different fucking world than I do, friend. Pharmaceutical companies make a killing off all of those things.

[piet11111]

Hahahahah. You must live in a different fucking world than I do, friend. Pharmaceutical companies make a killing off all of those things.

they make a killing on medicine that suppresses the effects of those diseases an actual cure has nowhere near the same profits (unless they charge hundreds of thousands of dollars for it)

[Pawn Power]

The argument should be self explanatory.

There is no law dictating that the designing ultra HD TV is progressive in a political sense.

[spice756]

Well medicine are drugs it comes from food and plants.

Some come from chemicals:blink: There has be profit curing person.

[Killfacer]

If everyone had the attitude of some people on this site, then we would all be living in caves because building houses "isn't progressive".

[piet11111]

Well medicine are drugs it comes from food and plants.

Some come from chemicals:blink: There has be profit curing person.

as a communist i am against the making of profit because that only goes to the bosses.

also the profit margins are insane they charge hundreds of dollars for what costs them cents to make.

[Dr Mindbender]

There is no law dictating that the designing ultra HD TV is progressive in a political sense.
i never made any such assertion that it was progressive in a political sense. I meant progressive in a general sense.

[Dr Mindbender]

If everyone had the attitude of some people on this site, then we would all be living in caves because building houses "isn't progressive".

Thanks you hit the nail on the head. Have some rep.

EDIT: I would if i could but its coming up with that stupid ''you must spread..'' error message. Fuck.

[Pawn Power]

i never made any such assertion that it was progressive in a political sense. I meant progressive in a general sense.

Well that is meaningless then.

[Cooler Reds Will Prevail]

Yeah image technology has basically been perfected in terms of image quality for consumer televisions with 1080p. The only way to go for these TV's really is in terms of energy efficiency, lifespan and color enhancement (blacker blacks, primarily).

It's really disappointing that programming these days is broadcast only in 720p/1080i given the fact that 1080p is basically the upper limit for consumer televisions. Does it really cost that much more to broadcast in 1080p?

What I'm really waiting for is image quality of projectors to go up to meet current technological standards of televisions.

It's not the cost factor it's more a problem of transmitting that much bandwidth to so many homes given the current technology and wiring. 1080p uses like twice the bandwidth of 720p/1080i and as far as I know, their systems aren't built to handle that much data traffic yet.

[Dr Mindbender]

Well that is meaningless then.

If you say so, I'll let you go home to your cave now.

[Killfacer]

If you say so, I'll let you go home to your cave now.

I would give you rep for this but i just gave you rep for the SNP spaceport thread for pretty much the same reason.

What is it with people on this site? Any progress which isn't directly related to the revolution they seem to dismiss and pointless.

[Pawn Power]

If you say so, I'll let you go home to your cave now.Do you even know what the words you read mean? And, subsequently, the words that you type?


I would give you rep for this but i just gave you rep for the SNP spaceport thread for pretty much the same reason.

You would give rep for a, to be sure weak, flame. :rolleyes:


What is it with people on this site? Any progress which isn't directly related to the revolution they seem to dismiss and pointless.If you haven't forgot this is a revolutionary leftist forum. What do you want to talk about progress in relation to? Time? Cheese curles? Facial hiar?

I don't accept you definition of progress which is moved forward by every 'new' technology. And even if I were to except this definition of progress I wouldn't consider the a new HDtv as contributing to it. Not every new piece of technology ads to scientific knowledge and human understanding.

Why would anyone want to talk about progress in a socio-political sense? Why would we talk about a progress which doesn't relate to an increased freedom and standard of living?