Misrepresentation of Left in houses of parliment

[Dóchas]

im not sure what it is like in other countries but in ireland i think there is only one left wing party represented in Dáil Éireann ( labour party?). what do you think the reason is for this. is it just that there isnt enough people in the party to be represented or that they see us as a bunch of hooligans that have no idea about politics? and also who decides what party is allowed representation in a house of parliment? :confused:

[Dóchas]

any one?

[butterfly]

Most countries with popular parties on the left are pseudo-leftists and give the public the a false impression of socialist policies.
Money decides who is elected to the house of parliament.

[Woland]

and also who decides what party is allowed representation in a house of parliment? :confused:

If I understand the question correctly..erm, the voters?? People just don't vote for left parties for whatever reasons being...and Labour isnt left at all. I do not know Irish politics, but isnt Sinn Fein left-wing?

[Dóchas]

If I understand the question correctly..erm, the voters?? People just don't vote for left parties for whatever reasons being...and Labour isnt left at all. I do not know Irish politics, but isnt Sinn Fein left-wing?

no thats not what i meant i mean like there is the party in power, the opposition party and the other parties. then there is all the unrepresented left wing parties that are not in the house of parliment. i wasnt sure about labour myself but twhen i looked it up it said labour was left wing. im not really sure about sinn fein the are one of irelands greatest enigmas!!

[Woland]

Ok, my second try at understanding your question, well, the thing is that there is likely to be a 5% of votes(or similiar) barrier for a party to get any seats in a parliament. I do not know how this is in Ireland, but something among these lines must be present. If this isnt it, Im sorry XP

[Dóchas]

Ok, my second try at understanding your question, well, the thing is that there is likely to be a 5% of votes(or similiar) barrier for a party to get any seats in a parliament. I do not know how this is in Ireland, but something among these lines must be present. If this isnt it, Im sorry XP

so they would need 5% of the publics vote to get into the houses of parliment?

[Woland]

Yes, thats what most countries have. Seats are calculated based on the % of votes.

BTW, I checked out Ireland and it seems they have a different system, in which you basically just pick candidates all coming from different parties, instead of just voting for parties, so there is no barrier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote

[Dóchas]

Yes, thats what most countries have. Seats are calculated based on the % of votes.

BTW, I checked out Ireland and it seems they have a different system, in which you basically just pick candidates all coming from different parties, instead of just voting for parties, so there is no barrier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote

so really the only reason there isnt any left wing parties/representatives in houses of parliment is that the people dont vote for them? thats kinda worrying :(

[Woland]

Yeah, it all comes from the voting. Most left parties are small and constitute many different ideologies, so its hard to get noticed.

[Dóchas]

Yeah, it all comes from the voting. Most left parties are small and constituate many different ideologies, so its hard to get noticed.

i think one of the main problems is that there is just so many left wing parties with slightly different beliefs and they are very small as they are split up. but id say if they made one single huge left wing party we would have a good chance of getting into government...pity it will never happen :(

[lombas]

That's one of the reasons my sympathy goes to the International Marxist Tendency. Furthermore, there are a bunch of communist and (radical) socialist parties with a good representation in parliament - the only question is how "corrupted" they are.

[Dóchas]

Furthermore, there are a bunch of communist and (radical) socialist parties with a good representation in parliament


in ireland or just in general?

[lombas]

in ireland or just in general?

In general. Sorry to say, Ireland is a neoliberal paradise.

:D

[Dóchas]

In general. Sorry to say, Ireland is a neoliberal paradise.

:D

ye tell me about it!! we went from an ok but corrupt "leader" to a straight but hopeless "leader"...third time lucky eh? :lol: