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not_of_this_world
15th December 2008, 02:54
If not, your attention should be focused on Latin America and what is transpiring there. In particular Hugo Chavez is the one to watch, he has the greatest chance to free Venezuela from the grip of the landed aristocracy. Right now Chavez is getting a lot of advice, some good and a lot bad unfortunately. Many want to see him slow down and work out a compromise with the land and manufacturing powers which of course is impossible in a Marxist Socialist Revolution. No compromises, all must be nationalized by any means necessary. They will not give up easily either and they have everything to gain from compromise. Time to muster right wing warriors to wreck havoc in the cities to discredit Chavez. This is what happened to many revolutionary startups in Latin America already. This one must succeed so the others can follow suit.

Charles Xavier
15th December 2008, 03:14
If not, your attention should be focused on Latin America and what is transpiring there. In particular Hugo Chavez is the one to watch, he has the greatest chance to free Venezuela from the grip of the landed aristocracy. Right now Chavez is getting a lot of advice, some good and a lot bad unfortunately. Many want to see him slow down and work out a compromise with the land and manufacturing powers which of course is impossible in a Marxist Socialist Revolution. No compromises, all must be nationalized by any means necessary. They will not give up easily either and they have everything to gain from compromise. Time to muster right wing warriors to wreck havoc in the cities to discredit Chavez. This is what happened to many revolutionary startups in Latin America already. This one must succeed so the others can follow suit.
It is obvious what is going on in Latin America is a immensely positive step forward. The people there are getting economic and political independence from the Imperialist powers. However to say it is the only hope isn't true. The Revolutionary Movement is centered around Latin America right now.

Col. Craig
15th December 2008, 04:07
I too am a big believer in the potential Latin America has for a complete revolution. Hugo Chavez is on the right path but does have his own imperfections. I feel sorry for any of his ministers that are called upon during Chavez's own television program Alo Presidente. He does not take any responsibility for the shortcomings of his own country and on live television accuses the ministers for these shortcomings. Instead of pointing fingers, I would like to see him come up practical solutions. If it truly is the minister's fault, then stop picking unreliable men to make important decisions for the country. If he can continue to gather the support of the people by being honest and true to the cause, the boliviarian revolution cannot fail.

Wild_Fire
15th December 2008, 04:42
Hugo Chavez is doing wonders for Venezuela in creating a 21st century Socialist movement, I agree, but it may eventually lead to failure. If he agrees to any proposed reforms, more will follow. And if reforms are happening, the power of the people he has behind him will fade. The system that rose him up will strike him down and break the hearts of the people. :(

Chavez is currently the spearhead of this action, and needs to make the push to complete this wonderful and painful revolutionary movement. I support what he is doing, to the point that he is able to make useful change to all Venezuelans.:thumbup1:

The 'Revolution' however, is happening right now, yes? The Revolution is everywhere.
I am busy reading, writing, discussing, sharing my thoughts with anyone who will here me. Remember it is a process and not an event. If we aren't working in/for a revolutionary movement now, then what are we doing?:confused:

:thumbup:We shouldn't be waiting for a Revolution to come along, we are a part of it!:thumbup:

Angry Young Man
16th December 2008, 03:02
If not, your attention should be focused on Latin America and what is transpiring there.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the FARC completely fucked atm?

Pr0d1gy
16th December 2008, 04:54
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the FARC completely fucked atm?


Why is this? Sorry for being lazy but what is the current status of FARC? Uribe seems to have more popular support than his predecessors, but is there anything else?

Charles Xavier
17th December 2008, 05:58
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the FARC completely fucked atm?

You're wrong

gewehr_3
17th December 2008, 06:05
FARC has lost their way and have become corrupt narco-traffickers obsessed with money.

Q
17th December 2008, 06:29
FARC has lost their way and have become corrupt narco-traffickers obsessed with money.

This.

FARC are a gang of thugs, there is nothing revolutionary with that.

Reclaimed Dasein
17th December 2008, 07:15
I agree with the other posts. Chavez is making a positive movement in Latin America as are many of the leaders down there. It's funny that Lula is now the conservative when just a few years ago he was the radical voice of Brazil. I agree with Heidegger when he quoted Holderlin writing,

But where the Danger grows,
The saving power also.

Things look somewhat bleak for the revolution right now in many places in the world. Yet, Greece shows us there is still some fight left in good old European social justice. Obama's election shows us that the United States hungers for real change, even if Obama isn't going to give it to them.

Charles Xavier
17th December 2008, 16:42
This.

FARC are a gang of thugs, there is nothing revolutionary with that.

Congratulations, right-wing propaganda has taken over your world outlook. Call a duck a goose and you'll believe it.

Who needs racist-fascist governments and the media of the Imperialists to tell us their propaganda when you have so-called "revolutionaries" parroting their statements.

Next please tell me that Pinochet was widely supported by the people and Allende was a terrorist.