Solidarity (US)?

[More Fire for the People]

What is ya'll's opinion on Solidarity (US), the US section of reunified Fourth International?

What, from your perspective, is good about them?
What, from your perspective, is bad about them?

[bruce]

Please excuse the ignorance, I don't know what this is?? Link?

[Yehuda Stern]

Solidarity is not the US section of USec (the so-called "Fourth International"), Socialist Action is. Both groups are pretty opportunist, although Solidarity is more blunt about it, usually giving electoral support to the Green Party. Socialist Action has split a fair number of times over the last decade or so.

[Revy]

They endorsed Nader in 2000 and 2004, and endorsed McKinney in 2008. They simply don't care about socialist tickets. They did also endorse the SPUSA's candidate in 2000, but endorsing Nader alongside it pretty much killed the significance of that.

Of course, this is a problem in many groups here in the U.S., they simply lack a clear perspective and thus degenerate into this nonsense. These groups include, Socialist Alternative and Workers' International League, pretty significant since these are the US sections of the CWI and the IMT, respectively.

They actually say things like "There are no other socialist candidates" despite there actually being socialist candidates. Or they'll say "the socialist candidates have no chance of winning" as if their so-called "progressive" capitalist third-party/independent candidates had any chance of winning either. Then they'll say something about the Green Party possibly becoming socialist or a workers' party.:lol:

I seem to have gone off on another tangent, but more on Solidarity, I believe they used to be Trotskyist, but they dropped the Leninist concepts of democratic centralism. of course, that has nothing to do with the above, since both Socialist Alternative and Workers' International League both profess Trotskyism & democratic centralism.

[bruce]

Link?

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[More Fire for the People]

I trust that you are capable of using google, bruce.

[bruce]

Yes I did and there are a few different ones to choose from, I can't post them per Revleft rules. Could you please link the best site?

[More Fire for the People]

http://www.solidarity-us.org/