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Sean
12th December 2008, 11:15
The U.S. has used loud music against those held in Guantanamo Bay, Iraq and Afghanistan, and detainees now aren't the only ones complaining: Musicians are banding together to demand the U.S. military stop using their songs as weapons.
Full article. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28144557/)About damn time. I wondered why artists never spoke out against this. Record companies complain about people illegally downloading music but not in its use to drive people to suicide. I really want to see this added to their small print.

Pirate Utopian
12th December 2008, 11:39
If I had to listen to Queen, Pantera and Eminem all the time I'd kill myself too.

communard resolution
12th December 2008, 12:37
They also played post-"And Justice..." Metallica to them, which makes for a fairly depressing listen.

However, Lars Ulrich spoke out against it even then. Well, he didn't want them to use any Metallica music, to be precise.

Sean
12th December 2008, 12:57
They also played post-"And Justice..." Metallica to them, which makes for a fairly depressing listen.

However, Lars Ulrich spoke out against it even then. Well, he didn't want them to use any Metallica music, to be precise.
In fairness, Lars Ulrich doesn't want anyone using Metallica.

communard resolution
12th December 2008, 13:00
In fairness, Lars Ulrich doesn't want anyone using Metallica.

Ha! True. He probably wouldn't mind torture if it earned him some extra royalties.

Jazzratt
12th December 2008, 14:40
Ha! True. He probably wouldn't mind torture if it earned him some extra royalties.

Perhaps then his objection is detainees aren't paying for each session.

fatpanda
12th December 2008, 16:25
JAMES HETFIELD IS PROUD METALLICA’S MUSIC WAS USED TO TORTURE GUANTANAMO PRISONERS

Metallica frontman James Hetfield recently told German-language TV network 3sat that part of him was proud the U.S. military chose the band’s music to torture prisoners at U.S. detention centers in Cuba’s Guantanamo Bay. “It’s strong; it’s music that’s powerful,” Hetfield says. “It represents something that they don’t like—maybe freedom, aggression… I don’t know… Freedom of speech. And then part of me is kind of bummed about it that people worry about us being attached to some political statement because of that. We’ve got nothing to do with this and we’re trying to be as apolitical as possible, ’cause I think politics and music, at least for us, don’t mix.” Watch the interview below. And for more Hetfield, read “the Best of the Rest” of Revolver’s recent Metallica interviews,:thumbdown:

fatpanda
12th December 2008, 16:29
you should go look up on hetfields interview with 3sat part 2 on youtube

i cant post any links to websites and i got that info from the revolvermagazines website

Sean
12th December 2008, 17:50
you should go look up on hetfields interview with 3sat part 2 on youtube

i cant post any links to websites and i got that info from the revolvermagazines website
Son of a *****!
UrpY8V5JBy4
@5:40. Then he goes into an "apolitical" defence.

fatpanda
12th December 2008, 17:57
i find his comment pretty sad because i'm a huge metallica fan
though lars and kirk think its a spoke out against the misuse of their music

communard resolution
12th December 2008, 20:07
Yeah, Lars definitely spoke out against it, saying he was shocked to hear their music was used to hurt people who hadn't done him any harm.

There's an article somewhere on the net comparing Ulrich's and Hetfield's respective 'political' attitudes by analysing some of their seemingly apolitical statements, especially from the Some Kind of Monster movie. So, for instance, while Hetfield seems to be big on individualism a "my way or the highway" outlook, Ulrich always emphasises on the importance of the group as a collective, where everyone contribues according to their abilities. Far-fetched perhaps, but entertaining. I'll post a link when I find it.

Dóchas
12th December 2008, 20:17
wow hetfield is a dickhead hes pretty much defending the use of his music for torture!! fucking hell!!

fatpanda
12th December 2008, 20:23
hmm i guess james used to be more liberal during the 80s than the post black album era...i mean just read the old lyrics..."the shortest straw" actually was about the mccarthy era i think...the songs on AJFA are actually inspired by dalton trumbo...
then he sort of changed from a punkrock skater into some ted nugent country man

LOLseph Stalin
13th December 2008, 01:37
I actually saw a list about this, listing the top songs used for torture. I laughed when I saw crap like barney on the list. It also made me angry because I saw some good songs on the list.

communard resolution
15th December 2008, 18:46
Son of a *****!
UrpY8V5JBy4
@5:40. Then he goes into an "apolitical" defence.

I only watched the interview now, and what I see is a person that is incapable of feeling empathy for others.

I wonder what made him that way - is it some sort of infantilisation caused by being a rockstar? The interviewer repeatedly tries to direct Hetfield's attention towards the suffering of the detainees, but Hetfield doesn't seem to comprehend. To Hetfield, the world evolves around him and the 'power' of his music. I don't even think he's that political, he just lives in a bubble.

Dr Mindbender
16th December 2008, 20:57
''If you say something political you're bound to lose some fans''

I think he's already done that with his half arsed nihilist bulshit.

mykittyhasaboner
16th December 2008, 21:58
''If you say something political you're bound to lose some fans''

I think he's already done that with his half arsed nihilist bulshit.
Agreed, I think the worst part is that he defends freedom of speech, and then calls himself apolitical. What a fucking dick, I can't believe someone as talented as Hetfield can simply look away when his music is being used for torture, and then laugh about it.

Holden Caulfield
16th December 2008, 22:03
what a fucking idiot talking about the radio, the interviewer should have twatted the rich little fuck

Dr Mindbender
16th December 2008, 22:04
Agreed, I think the worst part is that he defends freedom of speech, and then calls himself apolitical. What a fucking dick, I can't believe someone as talented as Hetfield can simply look away when his music is being used for torture, and then laugh about it.

what made me laugh was when the interviewer grilled him on the artistic meaning of his work and he sort of squirmed and had to think about it for a second as if he didnt even know himself.

It winds me up these people are appraised as geniuses yet they are more or less even by their own admittance, full of bollocks.

:lol:

Sean
16th December 2008, 22:31
what made me laugh was when the interviewer grilled him on the artistic meaning of his work and he sort of squirmed and had to think about it for a second as if he didnt even know himself.

It winds me up these people are appraised as geniuses yet they are more or less even by their own admittance, full of bollocks.

:lol:
Hahah I was thinking about that too when I listened to the power of his music beyond politics. I could just imagine Sacha Baron Cohen's character Bruno doing that interview, laughing along with him asking if he dislikes "such ugly peoples" like POWs being played his music by "butch soldiers". Bruno would be perfect for a twat like him.

mykittyhasaboner
16th December 2008, 23:22
what a fucking idiot talking about the radio, the interviewer should have twatted the rich little fuck
That part made me cringe. Ive never seen someone so inconsiderate and light-hearted about people being tortured for fucks sake. Perhaps we should send hetfield to the gulag and play metallica 24/7.



It winds me up these people are appraised as geniuses yet they are more or less even by their own admittance, full of bollocks.Full off bollocks indeed. Metallica has some good songs too, its a shame their lead singer is complete asshole.