He praises capitalism

[Sprocket Hole]

A guy I know is convinced that anybody can have anything they want so long they work hard for it, and that those in poverty (and those who see the need to sell drugs put there by bourgeoisie individuals to move up in the bottom of the hierarchy) are dead beats, and that they need to stop whining and strive harder.

Nothing I have said will convince him otherwise.

Give it a shot?:(

[GPDP]

Sounds like a conservative/Randroid blowhard.

IMO, it's best to just forget about the guy, especially if he only comes out with this during private conversation. If he makes it a point to dominate the political debate around you and your group of friends/co-workers/classmates, however, only then would there be a need to confront him unrelentingly.

[TheCagedLion]

Sounds like a conservative/Randroid blowhard.

IMO, it's best to just forget about the guy, especially if he only comes out with this during private conversation. If he makes it a point to dominate the political debate around you and your group of friends/co-workers/classmates, however, only then would there be a need to confront him unrelentingly.

This...


anybody can have anything they want so long they work hard for it, and that those in poverty (...) are dead beats, and that they need to stop whining and strive harder.

Also. Ask him, how much does he work compared to, say, a sweatshop worker? Per his logic, wouldn't the sweatshop worker have a life of, at least, the standard he has?

[#FF0000]

I lol at these people. I know a poor psychotic free-market mystic who is convinced he's gonna make it big one day.

He won't.

[Drace]

There really is no way to convince these idiots, but you can gain more knowledge of it yourself so you can just laugh at them.

First, bring about the statistics on the average wage. 2.6 billion are living under $2 a day. Most of which are in areas where its impossible to even try. While the top 20% hold 80% of the wealth.

/end

If you want more..
Wealth is not infinite. The more some have the less others get. So by reaching the top 20, your fucking over many people in the process.

If they are intellecutals, I just bring up determinism.

[Grunt]

First, bring about the statistics on the average wage. 2.6 billion are living under $2 a day. Most of which are in areas where its impossible to even try. While the top 20% hold 80% of the wealth.
That's a mighty good and powerfull argument! :)
(I will use those figures when discussing with people and/or
getting people interested when I do my weekly door-to-door
round trying to sell my party's paper).




If they are intellecutals, I just bring up determinism.
Care to elaborate/explain? :)

[mikelepore]

It is true that a lot of working class people could choose to do nothing but work every day and night, neglecting their families and everything else, and then they could eventually own a portfolio of stocks and bonds, etc.

But a system that makes people have to choose between having some time to live and having some money to live is a dehumanizing system and it should be overturned.

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"The devaluation of the human world increases in direct relation with the increase in value of the world of things.... The worker puts his life into the object, and his life then belongs no longer to himself but to the object.... The greater this product is, therefore, the more he is diminished." -- Karl Marx, Manuscripts of 1844