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DenniZ
8th December 2008, 22:09
Anyone else support anarchist Jello Biafra in 2012?

Dimentio
8th December 2008, 22:20
I thought you meant Jell-o.

http://joepastry.web.aplus.net/pics/jello.jpg

Jokes aside, the problem with the US election system is that votes for left-wing candidates with no resources or chances of winning in reality are votes for right-wing candidates like Sarah Palin.

Raúl Duke
8th December 2008, 22:35
Why would an anarchist run for elections, unless it's a joke of sorts? (like the joke parties I heard they have in Canada or Quebec.)
According to the site, this "anarchist" supports/supported the Green Party/Nader.

DenniZ
8th December 2008, 22:38
"I am an anarchist in my personal life. I try to live my life in a way that I don't need cops or baby-sitters to keep me from infringing on others. But I don't feel we have evolved far enough as a species to make anarchy work in society itself. We still need government to transfer the wealth from those who have too much to those who have too little, to make sure important projects get done, and keep territorial humans from screwing over and killing each other." -JELLO BIAFRA

Oneironaut
8th December 2008, 23:41
I don't.

Cult of Reason
9th December 2008, 00:13
They should bring back Pigasus instead.

Pirate Utopian
9th December 2008, 15:48
I would vote for Pigasus.

Dean
9th December 2008, 16:00
I thought you meant Jell-o.

Jokes aside, the problem with the US election system is that votes for left-wing candidates with no resources or chances of winning in reality are votes for right-wing candidates like Sarah Palin.

More ridiculous bullshit. I guess you could frame any support for leftism in that light.

You are the most liberal creep on these forums, comrade.

Dean
10th December 2008, 03:41
I wanted to add that I deeply admire and identify with Jello Biafra. His humanism and angry criticism speak to me. While I disagree with the above quote ("I don't feel we have evolved far enough as a species to make anarchy work in society itself") I understand where he is coming from, and on most other issues he is dead-on.

Take a look at this letter from him to the green party in '00 (http://www.greens.org/s-r/22/22-02.html)

Revy
10th December 2008, 05:12
No, I will not be voting for him.
I'm not convinced that he is a socialist, as he seems to reside in the anarcho-liberal continuum, as I'd call it.
The Green Party may be progressive, but it's not against capitalism.

I will be voting for my party's candidate in 2012. I may offer myself up as a VP candidate, though I'll still be in my early 20's and thus not eligible by the Constitution. I obviously do not care for those ageist restrictions. PSL ran their VP candidate, Puryear, and he was in his 20's too. I think the SPUSA needs to nominate more young people because every candidate seems to be old. I mean I'd go for someone as young as 35 which is the requirement. I'm just saying, the SPUSA needs to have more opportunities for young people.

Jazzratt
10th December 2008, 11:17
More ridiculous bullshit. I guess you could frame any support for leftism in that light.

Uh no, just voting in bourgeois-slanted "democracy".

It's quite clear that Serpent supports alternatives to ballots, a view common among leftists. So the liberal creep isn't him...

Dean
10th December 2008, 15:44
Uh no, just voting in bourgeois-slanted "democracy".

It's quite clear that Serpent supports alternatives to ballots, a view common among leftists. So the liberal creep isn't him...

No, he has repeatedly defended Obama as a "better" choice. Every single statement of his on this issue has been characteristic of a cynical democrat. When I pointed out how Obama was a dangerous threat re: his militarism, he actually opposed that attitude. Quit being so dense.

Bilan
11th December 2008, 03:40
Great singer from a great band.
Don't care for his politics now days.

8bit
14th December 2008, 06:49
I'm a huge Jello fan, and have been for years. In fact, I attribute a lot of the political ideology I hold to be true as a result of his words and actions.

If he is truly running for office in 2012 I will almost certainly vote for him, and I reccomend anyone who is not living in a blue/red swing state to do the same.


Jokes aside, the problem with the US election system is that votes for left-wing candidates with no resources or chances of winning in reality are votes for right-wing candidates like Sarah Palin.

Not exactly. In every election where the democrat continues to be the more progressive of the two major party candidates I urge you to vote for the democrat- if you live in a state which might go one way or the other. If you live in a state which is pretty much guaranteed to turn out red or blue, I urge you to vote 3rd party.