Should Gay People be Allowed to Teach Elementary School - A

[Ghost Writer]

Below is the question and my answer. I thought I would see where the people on this board stand, and if anyone disagrees with my position, since we have been discussing "gay rights".


Do you think people who are gay should be elementry school teachers, and teach kids who may or may not understand people who are gay?

I don't see how it would become a problem unless the elementary school teacher decided to discuss their lifestyle with the kids. In the situation, they should be fired. Nothing should prevent gay people from teaching, as long as they are not promoting an agenda. The general welfare of the students should be first priority, and the teacher should respect the wishes of parents, which don't want to explain homosexuality to a 3rd grader. Therefore, I believe it should only be disallowed if the teacher is a radical left-wing lunatic with the intention of convoluting the minds of children. Normal gay people that understand that you do not discuss your sexual practices with children would have no problem, where as, many gay activists would have issues, since they are more interested in indoctrinating kids with the gay agenda. Whatever the case, the schools must be very careful not to undermine the values of parents who send their kids to school.

[Felicia]

A person's sexual preference has no pending on their teaching abilities. I had a gay teacher in highschool and I thought that he was one of the best ones there, he was very kind, considerate, and professional.

Gay/straight... it doesn't matter, they still could be an excellent teacher.


edit: spelling error

(Edited by felicia at 5:24 pm on July 26, 2003)

[redstar2000]

...if the teacher is a radical left-wing lunatic with the intention of convoluting the minds of children.

Hmmm, a new verb, to convolute. How about if s/he is a "radical left-wing lunatic" with the intention of teaching the kids how to speak English?

Whatever the case, the schools must be very careful not to undermine the values of parents who send their kids to school.

So when atheist parents send their kids to school, there should be absolutely no favorable references to religion whatsoever, right?

:cool:

[Ghost Writer]

I was assumming that most of us understand that we live in a democracy where the majority view wins. Therefore, we must first consider the majority view, while being respectful of less popular views. In the same token the minority must respect the views of the majority, understanding full well that their position is less popular, and that most people disagree. As of late, we have been witnessing a tyranny of the minority in many areas of social and political life.


A person's sexual preference had no pending on their teaching abilities. I had a gay teacher in highschool and I thought that he was one of the best ones there, he was very kind, considerate, and professional.

Gay/straight... it doesn't matter, they still could be an excellent teacher.

I agree with the second part of your statement. What I find troubling, is the fact that you even knew the sexual preference of your teacher. Did he openly admit this to his students? A teacher should not be discussing his sexual preference with the students, as this shows a lack of good judgement. However, you were in High School and there is somewhat of a difference between this and discussing it with 8 years olds. It's still wrong, and I would complain as a student, and as a parent.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Gost Whiner, do you smoke crack by any chance?


We all know those evil faggots have only one thing in mind. Turning elementary school children gay. I believe this is part of the "gay doctrine". It's a fact that all gays in each city meet once a month to have orgies and make plans to try to get all children "hooked on that gay thing". The gay bible says so.

Watch out Ghost Whiner, I heard you can catch the gay by being touched by a gay person. Better wear layers from now on...I heard a latex body suit is 98% effective in blocking the gay from infecting you. I heard HAS MAT suits are the closest thing you can purchase to keep from catching the gay. I think Johnson & Johnson may be coming out with a good anti-gay spray that you can apply to yourself for an extra layer of protection as well.

I really wish I could smack you across the face for being such an imbecile Ghost Whiner.

[Ghost Writer]

You're lack of reading comprehension is surprising for someone who claims to hold a Ph.D.. How any of my statements could be twisted into the incoherent rantings that you ascribe to me is lies in your inability to think logically. Below is a simple logic question.

Question for RAF:

A car travels at a speed of 30 mph over a certain distance, and then returns over the same distance at a speed of 20 mph. What is the average speed for the total trip?

[Goldfinger]

I understand that teachers shouldn't be discussing their sexuality in class with the students, whether they are gay or straight. But don't you think firing the teacher is a bit extreme? I mean, if he/she starts talking about what sexual activities (s)he and her/his partner(s) practice in (or out of) bed, then I understand your arguement, but I don't think you can mentally scar kids by saying that some people are gay.

Oh wait, I forgot, you're from USA, a place where having an open mind will kill you and everyone you care about, while guns are a blessing from God.

What if a teacher owns a gun and reveals that to the students (in a non-threatening manner)? Is that okay?

[Vinny Rafarino]

What an absolute moron you are ghost whiner! I always give you a bit too much intellectual credibility. You never cease to prove once again you have the intellectual capacity of a pea. I did not think I had to include this little tidbit from your post as anyone with even a mediocre level of intelligence already figured it out. Since you are too dim to put it together on your own here is a portion of your post;

Normal gay people that understand that you do not discuss your sexual practices with children would have no problem, where as, many gay activists would have issues, since they are more interested in indoctrinating kids with the gay agenda.

Get it now lad? Your obtuseness is amazing. Do you actually have to think about breathing to stay alive boy?

Edit:

Don't be so jealous of my degrees son. I'm sure one day you will have enough saved up from your allowance to buy one from one those "life and work experience" universities you see in online adverts as you are definitely not smart enough to survive graduate school at a real university.

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 3:11 pm on July 26, 2003)

[antieverything]

Comrade RAF...a PhD?

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Give me a goddamn break, man. Perhaps he has a "Phony-ass Dick-head" degree!

[Ghost Writer]

"guns are a blessing from God."

Guns are a blessing from God. What are you some kind of gun grabber?

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Ghost Writer on 6:28 pm on July 26, 2003
"guns are a blessing from God."

Guns are a blessing from God. What are you some kind of gun grabber?


Sarcasm is not one of your gifts, is it Norman. Neither is any other form of wit apparently. Tell me what are you good at, other than pissing off your leftwing friends, on this forum?

RAF out of interest which University did you study at?

[Ghost Writer]

That wasn't sarcasm, dickface.

[Xprewatik RED]

I have had a gay teacher, a anarchist teacher, a lennist teacher, and a capitalist teacher(along with a-political mentors). I am none of the above. It is not like there is some sort of ,"gay", disease. I think RAF responded to your post well enough, there isn't much more needed for this thread. You hate gays, you are scared of them, you want gays behind a curtain. And in your, "democracy", the majority wins so i guess it will work. Even though the point of demoracy is to make sure everyone is represented, so minorities can live freely.

[Ghost Writer]

Off topic, how do you guys like my latest avatar? Do you remember Orco?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Yes, they should. And when sexuality happens to come up in school, so should homosexuality. Just becasue the majority dictates that it's not suitable, doesn't mean it shouldn't be metioned. Schools must be open to all knowledge, despite the existance of a narrow-minded social mindset, as this is the only way we will ever advance intelectualy. As for the sexual orientation of the teacher, it does not matter at all. If the students should find out, I would hope that they are accepting of this., if tehy are not, then it is clear it is completely the students' problem, is it not?

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Ghost Writer on 6:53 pm on July 26, 2003
That wasn't sarcasm, dickface.


No but what he said to you was dumb ass, your inability to detect it is why I said sarcasm is not one of your gifts. However as a capitalist I do not expect you to be bright enough to read simple English.

I have a theory on our friend Norman here; scientists are currently attempting to solve the mysteries of evolution. They need to discover the "missing link" in human evolution. This mythical creature half way through transformation between ape and Neanderthal. They wonder at its build and intellect, to measure how much humans have evolved and at what rate. I believe I have found the answer, at least on the intellect of the “beast”, all they must do is use Norman, his intellect appears to be barely more than that of a Neanderthal.

[MikeyBoy]

Anyone who is capable should be allowed to teach children. I dont think sexuality should be discussed with 8-year-olds though.


Yes, they should. And when sexuality happens to come up in school, so should homosexuality.

I don't think sexuality should be discussed in school...If you meant reproduction or sexual education, then that is not sexuality. Homosexuality does not involve reproduction. If it doesn't involve the bare minimum requirements of sex then I don't want to hear about it in a classroom. I remember that kids were nervous enough having to learn about the hoo-hoos and dinglings and whatnot!

Not to say I am biased against homosexuals, some of my best friends are homosexuals. It's just that, sex is hard enough to talk about in a classroom!

[Felicia]

Quote: from Ghost Writer on 9:13 am on July 26, 2003
I was assumming that most of us understand that we live in a democracy where the majority view wins. Therefore, we must first consider the majority view, while being respectful of less popular views. In the same token the minority must respect the views of the majority, understanding full well that their position is less popular, and that most people disagree. As of late, we have been witnessing a tyranny of the minority in many areas of social and political life.


A person's sexual preference had no pending on their teaching abilities. I had a gay teacher in highschool and I thought that he was one of the best ones there, he was very kind, considerate, and professional.

Gay/straight... it doesn't matter, they still could be an excellent teacher.

I agree with the second part of your statement. What I find troubling, is the fact that you even knew the sexual preference of your teacher. Did he openly admit this to his students? A teacher should not be discussing his sexual preference with the students, as this shows a lack of good judgement. However, you were in High School and there is somewhat of a difference between this and discussing it with 8 years olds. It's still wrong, and I would complain as a student, and as a parent.

I've had that teacher from grade 10 (I think) to grade 12. It's not something that he would talk to the class about. You could just tell just by his appearance, plus had a picture of him and his partner on his desk (not facing the class, people told me about the picture, I've never noticed it). And he has a boyfriend ( he lives on the same street as my friend). I'm quite sure that he's gay. I have an eye for them, I've known quite a few gay men and they seem familiar in behaviour (no, I'm not talking about whether or not they act feminine). but I know that you can't always tell....

[Ex Nihilo]

"I have a theory on our friend Norman here; scientists are currently attempting to solve the mysteries of evolution. They need to discover the "missing link" in human evolution. This mythical creature half way through transformation between ape and Neanderthal. They wonder at its build and intellect, to measure how much humans have evolved and at what rate. I believe I have found the answer, at least on the intellect of the “beast”, all they must do is use Norman, his intellect appears to be barely more than that of a Neanderthal."

You've obviously never studied human evolution. Because if you did, you'd know that there's no such thing as a 'missing link'.

Australopithecus ramidus - 5 to 4 million years BCE
Australopithecus afarensis - 4 to 2.7 million years BCE
Australopithecus africanus - 3.0 to 2.0 million years BCE
Australopithecus robustus - 2.2 to 1.0 million years BCE
Homo habilis - 2.2 to 1.6 million years BCE
Homo erectus - 2 to 0.4 million years BCE
Homo sapiens (archaic) - 400,000 to 200,000 years BCE
Homo sapiens neandertalensis - 200,000 to 30,000 years BCE
Homo sapiens sapiens - 130,000 years BCE to present

As you can plainly see, human evolution was, and is, a gradual process that takes place over many millions of years. There is no single 'missing link' that seperates man from ape.

As for the neanderthals, we did not evolve from them. Neanderthals are thought to have either evolved directly from H. erectus, or from an archaic form of homo sapiens.

They evolved parallel with us.

(Edited by Ex Nihilo at 9:49 pm on July 26, 2003)

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I believe that when he says 'missing link' he is referring to the link between apes and australopithecines (you seem to use a different term for this) because there is no clear link.

[Ex Nihilo]

As far as I know the australopithecines evoloved from a species called ardipithecus ramidus.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Ex Nihilo on 9:45 pm on July 26, 2003
"I have a theory on our friend Norman here; scientists are currently attempting to solve the mysteries of evolution. They need to discover the "missing link" in human evolution. This mythical creature half way through transformation between ape and Neanderthal. They wonder at its build and intellect, to measure how much humans have evolved and at what rate. I believe I have found the answer, at least on the intellect of the “beast”, all they must do is use Norman, his intellect appears to be barely more than that of a Neanderthal."

You've obviously never studied human evolution. Because if you did, you'd know that there's no such thing as a 'missing link'.

Australopithecus ramidus - 5 to 4 million years BCE
Australopithecus afarensis - 4 to 2.7 million years BCE
Australopithecus africanus - 3.0 to 2.0 million years BCE
Australopithecus robustus - 2.2 to 1.0 million years BCE
Homo habilis - 2.2 to 1.6 million years BCE
Homo erectus - 2 to 0.4 million years BCE
Homo sapiens (archaic) - 400,000 to 200,000 years BCE
Homo sapiens neandertalensis - 200,000 to 30,000 years BCE
Homo sapiens sapiens - 130,000 years BCE to present

As you can plainly see, human evolution was, and is, a gradual process that takes place over many millions of years. There is no single 'missing link' that seperates man from ape.

As for the neanderthals, we did not evolve from them. Neanderthals are thought to have either evolved directly from H. erectus, or from an archaic form of homo sapiens.

They evolved parallel with us.

(Edited by Ex Nihilo at 9:49 pm on July 26, 2003)


I am no expert on this subject so do correct me if I am wrong.

The missing link specifically refers to a specific set of remains that, appeared to be a species of ape part way through the transformation of ape to the oldest recorded spieces of Human. These remains were called Lucy. However it turned out to be an error, and Lucy was still an ape with just a straited back than usual. Hense the reason why the search continues for the "missing link".

This site (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/momevol.html) refers to the missing link as being: -

More often, "missing link" refers to something intermediate between apes and humans: either apes with some human features, or humans with primitive features. These could be either direct human ancestors, or just more closely related to us than to modern apes.

This site (http://www.inthelight.co.nz/spirit/gurus/pg-evol.htm) defines the missing link: -

Scholars often refer to the "missing link". There has not been enough fossil evidence to positively link Homo Erectus to Homo Sapiens. Some schools believe that Homo Erectus was an evolutionary dead end, and that Homo Sapiens evolved independantly in a number of geographically separate areas from other sources.

PS Aparently I was wrong our dear friend Norman is not the missing link, just remarkably dull in intellect. No it seams that George "Dubya" Bush is the link.

Do take a look Bush is the missing link (http://www.bull-news.com/writings/MissingLink.html).

[Dirty Commie]

The idea of any sort of missing link is absurd, as far as I'm concerned, all of our ancestoprs dating back to homo habilis are human, not the same species as we are today (maybe similar to ghost wanker though)

And on the topic, even ofg the majoirty of the people say that gays can't teach, does that make the majority correct? No. I am a firm believer in democracy, but I think that many issues are misunderstood, or even not cared about. What gives anyone the right to say that two people can't be legally married? Outdated family values? shit no. "Morals" definatly not. Ghost wanker has nothing better to do than preach outdated religous dogma that is only accepted by psuedo christians who believe certain parts of the bible that say they can exploit and destroy, not the teachings that have real meaning (sell all your belongs and give the money to the poor)

Our masturbating inbred redneck buddy needs to get a life and open his eyed to the modern world...or get banned.

[Liberty Lover]

Quote: from Ghost Writer on 7:02 pm on July 26, 2003
Off topic, how do you guys like my latest avatar? Do you remember Orco?


It's Vivi from Final Fantasy IX. Whose Orco?

[canikickit]

Watch out Ghost Whiner, I heard you can catch the gay by being touched by a gay person. Better wear layers from now on...I heard a latex body suit is 98% effective in blocking the gay from infecting you. I heard HAS MAT suits are the closest thing you can purchase to keep from catching the gay. I think Johnson & Johnson may be coming out with a good anti-gay spray that you can apply to yourself for an extra layer of protection as well.

I got an envelope today with some white powder in it...I think it might be gay.

[Felicia]

hahahaha :cheesy:

yeah, I got the same thing too...... just between you and me, I think that ghost writer sent it ;)

[Ghost Writer]

I defy anyone who is calling me the missing link to answer the same question I put to Comrade RAF. Let's see whose behind in the evolutionary process. This is a question that a third grader should be able to answer.

Question:

A car travels at a speed of 30 mph over a certain distance, and then returns over the same distance at a speed of 20 mph. What is the average speed for the total trip?

[Vinny Rafarino]

AustralopitheCINES is the plural of AustalopitheCUS.

There are several different species of the Autstralopithicus all housed under the Austalopithecines group.

DC you at least should give me some credit for nicking my post from a while back. However my chart was much more detailed.

Here is a link to a chart on human evolution that even Ghost Whiner will understand. You will see the concept of "the missing link" is an absolute fallacy.

http://www.handprint.com/LS/ANC/evol.html#chart


Still on with those silly questions I see Ghost Wanker. Here's my answer.

What's your address?

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 7:11 am on July 27, 2003)

[Ex Nihilo]

Nice.

http://www.handprint.com/LS/ANC/evol.gif

[truthaddict11]

damn dirty apes

[Soul Rebel]

What I find troubling, is the fact that you even knew the sexual preference of your teacher. Did he openly admit this to his students? A teacher should not be discussing his sexual preference with the students, as this shows a lack of good judgement.

So a teacher shouldnt discuss their marriage either because that right there is a discussion of their heterosexuality. I think that you fail to recognize that everyday heterosexuals are able to express their sexuality in ways that they take for granted.
By the way saying that gays shouldnt speak or refer to their sexuality is the same as telling a pregnant woman that she couldnt teach just because she was pregnant. The school system used to do this- they thought that pregnant teachers would send the wrong message. Now we no longer see it this way and i think its about damn time that people start viewing homosexuality in a different light as well.

[dopediana]

agreed on most points senora. teachers shouldn't make their sexuality open at all, be they straight or gay. it's not the students' business. they are there to be educated and guided in their studies and parts of extra academic life. a teacher ought to use his/her good judgment when talking to students in public and in private. also on the side, teachers ought to keep their professional lives separate from their private lives. i know a few cases of student/teacher affairs both gay and straight and it never ended well.

i think there's no harm in knowing a bit of background about your teacher. it's ridiculous to be totally in the dark about a person who is a big part of your life for 180 days a year.

but i really don't think that admitting one's homosexuality to a class is going to impact anyone. personal sexual preference is one thing. but it's not "imposing gay agendas" on students to do so. that's the biggest load of bullshit i've ever heard.

what i DO have a problem with is teachers who extend their personal life to stuff related to lessons in the class. now THAT is biased. for example, my international relations teacher was a republican and made no effort to be unbiased so i really was on her bad side because of my political views, but it was because i made her very uncomfortable and she admitted it. this gave all the other right wingers in the room a "valid excuse" to gang up on me. that pissed me off. that's the kind of stuff that doesn't make its way to the classroom, or that shouldn't. that impacted my performance as a person and as a student (being that i got even more aggressive in my views particularly on the war and on the roadmap to peace which was a good thing i guess but at an emotional expense) and a teacher's views shouldn't do that. the teacher's business, to reiterate, is to educate you and guide you, not make an effort to brainwash you and unwarrantingly disrespect you.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Thank you DC. I hate uploading and all that shite.


Amaryllis,

I believe what Mrs. Che is attempting to say is that its fine and good to limit both the hetero and home sexual sides from speaking about their relationships. However, people like Ghost Wanker feel that if a gay person even goes so far as to mention their "same sex life partner" in passing., it's "corrupting the youth with the "gay agenda". All the while there will never be a problem with a straight teacher mentioning her husband can't fix the sink. It's a double standard and we know how well the left reacts to double standards.

We must always remember we live in a society that was founded on double standards. The Wife and Husband teacher will never be penalised for breaking the "rules" of sexual privacy in the classroom, however if a lesbian mentions that her "wife" also can't fix the sink you can bet your pretty little backside she will be sacked straight away.

Please correct me if I have misunderstood your point Mrs. Che

[Moskitto]

I know a teacher who is reputed to be gay and all the younger, more stupid children make the biggest deal about it, However I don't think he actually is gay, he just acts in some ways a stereotypical gay person acts.


Question:

A car travels at a speed of 30 mph over a certain distance, and then returns over the same distance at a speed of 20 mph. What is the average speed for the total trip?

do you mean in terms of time or in terms of distance? Not that I care of course, I'm just curious.

[Cyb0rgasm]

The pure lack of intelligence you must harness in order to even conceive of this question startles me, SN , and for one who supports so-called "freedom" you seem to be almost mocking your own self-described reputation, of "Democratic".

If you do not allow Gay teachers to teach, then you are essentially discriminating against them by inaction , by not even allowing them to have the same opportunities or rights as heterosexual people. I am not stating that you must attend to Homesexuals on their every whim and bend over backwards to level the playing field, I am saying quite the opposite, to not even put the effort to raise mounds and ridges in the first place.

Nor am I stating that Homesexuals should be given special rights, just the same equal rights as everyone else in Amerikkka, 'The Land of The Free'.

And please , please do not try to plug your ears and scream "Gay People Shouldnt Be Married Because It's A Sacred Rite" while the Television in the backround blasts out to the tune of "Married By America" , "Joe Millionaire" and "The Bachelor".
-CB0

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Moskitto on 11:48 pm on July 27, 2003
I know a teacher who is reputed to be gay and all the younger, more stupid children make the biggest deal about it, However I don't think he actually is gay, he just acts in some ways a stereotypical gay person acts.


Question:

A car travels at a speed of 30 mph over a certain distance, and then returns over the same distance at a speed of 20 mph. What is the average speed for the total trip?

Mr Chappel?

do you mean in terms of time or in terms of distance? Not that I care of course, I'm just curious.

[Moskitto]

Quote: from AK47 on 12:21 am on July 28, 2003

Quote: from Moskitto on 11:48 pm on July 27, 2003
I know a teacher who is reputed to be gay and all the younger, more stupid children make the biggest deal about it, However I don't think he actually is gay, he just acts in some ways a stereotypical gay person acts.


Question:

A car travels at a speed of 30 mph over a certain distance, and then returns over the same distance at a speed of 20 mph. What is the average speed for the total trip?

Mr Chappel?

do you mean in terms of time or in terms of distance? Not that I care of course, I'm just curious.


no, Mr Chappel is definitely not gay, my mum is rather good friends with his wife, I meant Dr Graham.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Moskitto on 12:29 am on July 28, 2003

Quote: from AK47 on 12:21 am on July 28, 2003

Quote: from Moskitto on 11:48 pm on July 27, 2003
I know a teacher who is reputed to be gay and all the younger, more stupid children make the biggest deal about it, However I don't think he actually is gay, he just acts in some ways a stereotypical gay person acts.


Question:

A car travels at a speed of 30 mph over a certain distance, and then returns over the same distance at a speed of 20 mph. What is the average speed for the total trip?

Mr Chappel?

do you mean in terms of time or in terms of distance? Not that I care of course, I'm just curious.


no, Mr Chappel is definitely not gay, my mum is rather good friends with his wife, I meant Dr Graham.

I know he's not gay, however he does act it though. He has a child, which would indicate he's not gay.

[Moskitto]

I would describe him more as "weird" than "gay".

The type of shit I hear stupid 13 year olds say about Dr Graham at canoeing is just stupid, it's like "ooh, Dr Graham was teaching us Spanish, and I was very wary not to let him touch me" when like if it was any other teacher it would not be a big deal, I daubt he's gay anyway, there is someone in the school who is gay (I'm not allowed to say, but it's easy to find out) and he is nothing like Dr Graham.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Moskitto on 12:49 am on July 28, 2003
I would describe him more as "weird" than "gay".

The type of shit I hear stupid 13 year olds say about Dr Graham at canoeing is just stupid, it's like "ooh, Dr Graham was teaching us Spanish, and I was very wary not to let him touch me" when like if it was any other teacher it would not be a big deal, I daubt he's gay anyway, there is someone in the school who is gay (I'm not allowed to say, but it's easy to find out) and he is nothing like Dr Graham.

To be honist I dont really care if there is a gay teacher at school, it does not bother me in the slightest. Anyone who it does bother is a fool.

[Vinny Rafarino]

homosexuals have children all the time.

[Elect Marx]

Ghost Writer,
Did you not understand what he was saying? Do you know what meritocracy is? Its the bullshit you believe in. The US is not a democracy!!! Do you know what democracy means? "The people to rule," the people of the US are not in charge. The government sent troops into Iraq against the public will. I rest my case.

[Elect Marx]

Oh yeah, the thread. Homosexuals sould not be discriminaded against as teachers or anything else but of course should not be obsene in class. Teachers discuss many things with students. Homosexual teachers should not be required to keep their lives secret. I have known some of these teachers. I know this because I've talked to them and taken interest in their lives. Anyone who has large issues with this should go solve some real problems. People are FUCKING STARVING!!!! That said, churches as religious organizations should not be forced to join anyone. Still anyone should have the rights to be joined and recieve the same benefits (no discrimination). These problems with marriage are largly economical, So SMASH CAPITALISM!!!! Problem solved.

[Ghost Writer]

"do you mean in terms of time or in terms of distance? Not that I care of course, I'm just curious."

Speed is always given in unit distance per unit time. It is a rate (m/s, M/hr, k/hr, parsecs/yr, lightyrs,yr, knots/hr). It is the absolute value of the velocity vector. When the direction is arbitrary, there is no need to deal with vector space, all that is needed is the magnitude.

Remember R = D/t, D = R*t, t = D/R.

Nobody has solved this one? Come on, I would have expected more from people who are constantly calling me stupid, idiot, moron, and similiar names. This question is below even an SAT test.

(Edited by Ghost Writer at 4:51 am on July 28, 2003)

[Ghost Writer]

For all of you people who have absolutely no problem with an openly gay teacher teaching school, should transvestites be allowed to teach school dressed as the opposite sex? Don't you see how this open attitude towards people's sexuality could corrupt the students? Should somebody who is mentally disordered enough to have a sex change operation be a public school teacher? Sorry but I don't think flamboyantly gay people should be put into the position of role model for other people's kids. Sane rational people that can respect the mores of society while leading their own private lives, without interjecting their own perversions onto the students, I have no problem with. I wouldn't want some slut discussing her weekend activities any more than I would appreciate gays talking about their private lives. To equate any of these scenarios with a married school teacher talking about her socially acceptable behavior is absurd.

[Ghost Writer]

Ghost Writer,
Did you not understand what he was saying? Do you know what meritocracy is? Its the bullshit you believe in. The US is not a democracy!!! Do you know what democracy means? "The people to rule," the people of the US are not in charge. The government sent troops into Iraq against the public will. I rest my case.

I can tell that somebody has never had a formal education in political science. There are some agreed upon criteria that political science scholars have come up with to measure how democratic a government remains. I highly suggest that you take a look at these criteria before making the ignorant assumption that the United States is somehow not a democracy. To be sure, you have absolutely no understanding of this concept, as is exemplified by your speech. If you ask me nicely, I may give you a lesson in democratic rule, as prescribed by the educated scholars that have come up with a basic outline for democratic rule. To be sure, our democracy is the strongest ever to inhabit the face of the earth. Moron.

[Vinny Rafarino]

The simple fact is we dont give a fuck all boy.

[Xprewatik RED]

America is a plutocracy
I have a question
Will a white rich male win the next US election?hmmm?

[Ghost Writer]

Was Abraham Lincoln rich?

[Xprewatik RED]

lets here 5 non rich ones

[Liberty Lover]

Quote: from 313C7 iVi4RX on 12:27 am on July 29, 2003
Ghost Wanker, One again you have failed to answer any of my questions, proving you are an idiot that can only spout irrelivant insults. If you don't know how to use a forum get the hell out and go fuck yourself.

Ghost Writer generally steers clear of illiterate fuckwits like you. It is a wise decision on his part.

[Dirty Commie]

No answer yet...

His ideas might be worth hearing if they had any factual basis to support them, he comes up with some shit off the top of his head. Than says it in big words he learned at his highschool (which I perfectly understand and I'm not even in ninth grade yet.) Why do we put up with pure arrogance? Allowing capitalists to post is one thing, but allowing him to post his filth is absurd.

[Moskitto]

Quote: from Ghost Writer on 5:02 am on July 28, 2003
For all of you people who have absolutely no problem with an openly gay teacher teaching school, should transvestites be allowed to teach school dressed as the opposite sex? Don't you see how this open attitude towards people's sexuality could corrupt the students? Should somebody who is mentally disordered enough to have a sex change operation be a public school teacher? Sorry but I don't think flamboyantly gay people should be put into the position of role model for other people's kids. Sane rational people that can respect the mores of society while leading their own private lives, without interjecting their own perversions onto the students, I have no problem with. I wouldn't want some slut discussing her weekend activities any more than I would appreciate gays talking about their private lives. To equate any of these scenarios with a married school teacher talking about her socially acceptable behavior is absurd.


I think for elementry school (equivalent to lower or primary school?) I don't think teachers talking about their sex lives is appropriate in the slightest, A teacher telling a group of 6 or 7 year olds "hey, last night me and my girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife/some guy/girl i met in the pub had mad rompous sex all night, we did every position in the karma sutra" is definitely inappropriate.

I don't see marriage as being an issue at that age, I didn't see teachers in my lower school called "miss [whatever]" and think "oooh, she's not married" or "mrs [whatever]" and think "oooh, she has sex with a man." All I knew that when women got married they turned from miss into mrs, I didn't appreciate what married fully meant. I don't think I would notice that someone was living with someone they weren't married to, If they occasionally getting a lift to work with someone of the same sex, I would just consider it "brother/sister" if they kissed, i'd probably just consider it a "family kiss." Because at that age, people simply don't associate those types of things with sex.

At older ages, children begin to associate those types of things with sex, however they are also introduced to sex education, though a teacher's sexual preferance still should not become an issue.

[FatFreeMilk]

If anything, having a gay elementary school teacher would be a positive thing for the students. It would teach them tolerance of different lifestyles from an early age so when they get older they won't look at homosexuals as a reason to hate. As long as the teacher isn't talking about their sex lives with the students then there shouldn't be a "problem". Any teacher that talks about their sex lives to little kids, straight or gay, should be repremanded though anyways.

[Soul Rebel]

Quote: from COMRADE RAF on 10:48 pm on July 27, 2003
Thank you DC. I hate uploading and all that shite.


Amaryllis,

I believe what Mrs. Che is attempting to say is that its fine and good to limit both the hetero and home sexual sides from speaking about their relationships. However, people like Ghost Wanker feel that if a gay person even goes so far as to mention their "same sex life partner" in passing., it's "corrupting the youth with the "gay agenda". All the while there will never be a problem with a straight teacher mentioning her husband can't fix the sink. It's a double standard and we know how well the left reacts to double standards.

We must always remember we live in a society that was founded on double standards. The Wife and Husband teacher will never be penalised for breaking the "rules" of sexual privacy in the classroom, however if a lesbian mentions that her "wife" also can't fix the sink you can bet your pretty little backside she will be sacked straight away.

Please correct me if I have misunderstood your point Mrs. Che



RAF- you got it all right, to the point :)

Amaryllis- i hope you dont think the first paragraph was mine. That was Ghost Writers stuff. I was just reacting to it.

[Elect Marx]

Ghost Wanker, One again you have failed to answer any of my questions, proving you are an idiot that can only spout irrelivant insults. If you don't know how to use a forum get the hell out and go fuck yourself.

[Moskitto]

I find it sad that this perfectly decent topic has turned into a rant fest :(

[FatFreeMilk]

Happens alot now :(

[Elect Marx]

Well at least Ghost Writer has a Liberty Lover :wub:

[Dark Capitalist]

Don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue - if we all abide by this policy, I think we can save ouselves a whole lot of conflict and misery in the future.

[Dark Capitalist]

Originally posted by 313C7 [email protected] 31 2003, 05:40 AM
Well at least Ghost Writer has a Liberty Lover :wub:
Ah, so the great defender of the queers now turns to spewing homophobic insults when knows he can't win. :D How pathetic.


If you wanna play that way fag, then we'll play that way.

[Moskitto]

Originally posted by Dark [email protected] 31 2003, 06:25 AM
Don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue - if we all abide by this policy, I think we can save ouselves a whole lot of conflict and misery in the future.
yep, with everything there should be don't ask, don't tell.

[Moskitto]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2003, 12:49 PM
...if the teacher is a radical left-wing lunatic with the intention of convoluting the minds of children.

Hmmm, a new verb, to convolute. How about if s/he is a "radical left-wing lunatic" with the intention of teaching the kids how to speak English?

Whatever the case, the schools must be very careful not to undermine the values of parents who send their kids to school.

So when atheist parents send their kids to school, there should be absolutely no favorable references to religion whatsoever, right?

:cool:
Parents can choose to have their children withdrawn from religious education lessons anyway, most schools use the short course religious studies GCSE which means most of the subject material is actually stuff to get people through life, eg. job applications, with a limited amount on actual religious studies.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Moskitto+Jul 31 2003, 11:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Moskitto @ Jul 31 2003, 11:21 AM)
[email protected] 26 2003, 12:49 PM
...if the teacher is a radical left-wing lunatic with the intention of convoluting the minds of children.

Hmmm, a new verb, to convolute. How about if s/he is a "radical left-wing lunatic" with the intention of teaching the kids how to speak English?

Whatever the case, the schools must be very careful not to undermine the values of parents who send their kids to school.

So when atheist parents send their kids to school, there should be absolutely no favorable references to religion whatsoever, right?

:cool:
Parents can choose to have their children withdrawn from religious education lessons anyway, most schools use the short course religious studies GCSE which means most of the subject material is actually stuff to get people through life, eg. job applications, with a limited amount on actual religious studies. [/b]
When I had Religios studies at my old school, I used to argue with the teacher about the existance of god... and generally made him look a fool when he had to resort to giving me detention when he felt under pressure.

[Moskitto]

Originally posted by AK47+Jul 31 2003, 12:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AK47 @ Jul 31 2003, 12:16 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 11:21 AM

[email protected] 26 2003, 12:49 PM
...if the teacher is a radical left-wing lunatic with the intention of convoluting the minds of children.

Hmmm, a new verb, to convolute. How about if s/he is a "radical left-wing lunatic" with the intention of teaching the kids how to speak English?

Whatever the case, the schools must be very careful not to undermine the values of parents who send their kids to school.

So when atheist parents send their kids to school, there should be absolutely no favorable references to religion whatsoever, right?

:cool:
Parents can choose to have their children withdrawn from religious education lessons anyway, most schools use the short course religious studies GCSE which means most of the subject material is actually stuff to get people through life, eg. job applications, with a limited amount on actual religious studies.
When I had Religios studies at my old school, I used to argue with the teacher about the existance of god... and generally made him look a fool when he had to resort to giving me detention when he felt under pressure. [/b]
You&#39;re teacher was probably crap, ours was great and only argued about god as an example of philosophy.

Although we had the worst one in middle school, she made us do a project on "light" (yeah, you try and work that one out.) Or made us bring in "writings that were important to us" (I have about 2 which fit that category, I had none then.)

[Elect Marx]

Dark Capitalist,
It wasn&#39;t homophobic you idiot, I have no problem with any relationship they may have. I was simply pionting out their obvious devotion to each other.