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coberst
6th December 2008, 22:15
Its about time!

How does cognitive science, as constructed by the embodied realists, look at time?

Cognitive science examines concepts as they come ready-made from the unconscious. Language expresses our ready-made concept of time and with this the cognitive scientists constructs the mechanisms and the human experiences that have gone into the development of this living concept. I call it a living concept because some experience I have later today might very well modify it somewhat without my conscious awareness.

As Rumsfeld might say we take the concept we have and not the concept we might wish to have.

Events and time: oscillating pendulums mark timedrummers mark timesubatomic particles mark timetime marches forwardtime does not march backwardtime is continuous and also segmentedtime is never alone but is often marked by an event.

Spatial time: is that central time or GM time?time is located with reference to the observer, it is behind, in front of, in the present, past or futurethere is moving time that comes toward me or away from metime is never alone but is often marked in spatial terms.

Time flows like a river. Time stands still and the observer moves. The observer stands still while time moves. There is trouble down the road. What length of time will you be staying? We are coming up to Christmas. We passed the deadline. The days dwindle down to a precious few. The deadline sneaked by me. The future is ahead of us. Put the past behind you. Time is never alone but is often marked by my presence.

All this time orientation occurs in many languages and occurs widely around the world; these conceptions of time are not arbitrary, but are motivated by by the most basic of everyday experiences. Time is conceived with metaphors. We do not speak of time-in-it-self we think of time in metaphor. In many metaphors, time is conceived as a container. He ran a mile in five minutes, in locates the event within a metaphorical temporal container, i.e. a bounded region. The race occurred at 10 am, locates time at a temporal location.

Our subjective life is enormous. We have subjective experiences of desire, affection, and achievement. We make subjective judgments about abstract ideas such as importance, difficulty, and morality. Much of what makes up our conceptualization, reasoning, and visualization of these subjective matters comes from other domains of experience. These other domains are mostly sensorimotor experiences.

Within the human unconscious there is a constant copying of the neurological structure of actual experiences onto subjective concepts. In other words, below the conscious radar our unconscious is selecting copies of the neurological structures from real life experiences and placing those copies onto subjective concepts. Our concept of time is an accumulation of the neurological structures of real experiences; thus we have such a varied and sometimes contradictory comprehension of many subjective abstract concepts such as we see with time.

Can we conceptualize time without using metaphors? I cannot, it appears that no one can.

Time is a human conceptualization. Is there a literal aspect of time? Yes, time is directional, it is irreversible, time-defining events are regular and iterative. But we can hardly think or speak of time without metaphor. This is the case because we invent the concept of time unconsciously by our experiences as we move through space and time in our daily activities.

Many of our concepts are just like this concept of time. Our subjective concepts, our abstract concepts, such as value, causality, change, love, nation, patriotism, God or gods, etc. are all human constructions that happen below the conscious radar and exist because our unconscious activity creates them.

Ideas and some quotes from Philosophy in the FleshLakoff and Johnson

JimmyJazz
6th December 2008, 22:17
tl;dr

plus I'm watching the ucla-usc game

have fun with your saturday afternoon cognitive science reading/copy-and-pasting tho

mikelepore
7th December 2008, 11:41
We can also see time in things that are far removed from human beings. Each crater on the moon is evidence of an occasion when the moon and a meteoroid happened to be in the same place at the same time. On many other occasions, the trajectory of the moon and the trajectories of metoroids were still intersecting curves, but the objects weren't in the same place at the same time, so there were no collisions in those cases.

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"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." -- Groucho Marx

Led Zeppelin
7th December 2008, 12:03
Cobert, I asked you once before to post your threads in the appropriate forum, I am going to move this once more but next time I will trash it.

I'm not sure why you want to dump all your threads in Theory, we also have a Philosophy and Sciences and Environment forum.

ÑóẊîöʼn
7th December 2008, 14:55
coberst is wrong. Time is a property of the universe independent of the beings that inhabit it, IE us. The fact that there are no special, absolute frames of time (as Relativity tells us) does not mean that time does not exist - it merely means that it behaves differently under conditions rarely if ever seen on Earth.

Rosa Lichtenstein
7th December 2008, 21:27
As I pointed out in Theory:


Sounds like this piece is discussing 'time', and not time as we ordinarily consider it. In which case, what's the point? It might as well have been discussing coffee grinders for all the good it does.

Two better articles are these:

http://www.uea.ac.uk/%7Ej339/slicingtime.htm

http://www.uea.ac.uk/%7Ej339/dummettreply.htm