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Totalitarian
24th July 2003, 03:51
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A REAL CASE AGAINST THE JEWS

THE CENTURY MAGAZINE

January,1928

By MARCUS ELI RAVAGE

One of Them Points Out The Full Depth of Their Guilt MARCUS ELI RAVAGE

OF COURSE, you do resent us. It is no good telling me you don't. So let us not waste any time on denials and alibis. You know you do, and I know it, and we understand each other. To be sure, some of your best friends are Jews, and all that. I have heard that before once or twice, I think. And I know, too, that you do not include me personally—"me" being any particular individual Jew—when you fling out at us in your wholesale fashion, because I am, well, so different, don't you know, almost as good as one of yourselves. That little exemption does not, somehow, move me to gratitude; but never mind that now. It is the aggressive, climbing, pushing, materialistic sort you dislike—those, in a word, who remind you so much of your own up-and-coming brethren. We understand each other perfectly. I don't hold it against you.

Bless my soul, I do not blame anybody for disliking anybody. The thing that intrigues me about this anti-Jewish business, as you play at it, you make such fantastic and transparent excuses, you seem to be suffering from self-consciousness so horribly, that if the performance were not so grotesque it would be irritating.

It is not as if you were amateurs; you have been at it for over fifteen centuries. Yet watching you and hearing your childish pretexts, one might get the impression that you did not know yourselves what it is all about. You resent us, but you cannot clearly say why. You think up a new excuse—a 'reason" is what you call it—every other day. You have been piling up justification for yourselves these many hundreds of years and each new invention is more laughable than the last and each new excuse contradicts and annihilates the last.

Not so many years ago I used to hear that we were money-grubbers and commercial materialists; now the complaint is being whispered around that no art and no profession is safe against Jewish invasion.

We are, if you are to be believed, at once clannish and exclusive and inassimilable because we won't intermarry with you, and we are also climbers and pushers and a menace to your racial integrity.

Our standard of living is so low that we create your slums and sweat industries, and so high that we crowd you out of your best residential sections.

We shirk our patriotic duty in wartime because we are pacifists by nature and tradition, and we are the arch-plotters of universal wars and the chief beneficiaries of those wars (see "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".)

We are at once the founders and leading adherents of capitalism and the chief perpetrators of the rebellion against capitalism.

Surely, history has nothing like us for versatility!

And, oh! I almost forgot the reason of reasons. We are the stiff-necked people who never accepted Christianity, and we are the criminal people who crucified its founder.

But I tell you, you are self-deceivers. You lack either the self-knowledge or the mettle to face the facts squarely and own up to the truth. You resent the Jew not because, as some of you seem to think, we crucified Jesus but because we gave him birth. Your real quarrel with us is not that we have rejected Christianity but that we have imposed it upon you!

Your loose, contradictory charges against us are not a patch on the blackness of our proved historic offense. You accuse us of stirring up revolution in Moscow. Suppose we admit the charge. What of it? Compared with what Paul the Jew of Tarsus accomplished in Rome, the Russian upheaval is a mere street brawl.

You make much noise and fury about the undue Jewish influence in your theaters and movie palaces. Very good; granted your complaint is well-founded. But what is that compared to our staggering influence in your churches, your schools, your laws and your governments, and the very thoughts you think every day?

A clumsy Russian forges a set of papers and publishes them in a book called "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," which shows that we plotted to bring on the late World War. You believe that book. All right. For the sake of argument we will underwrite every word of it. It is genuine and authentic. But what is that besides the unquestionable historical conspiracy which we have carried out, which we have never denied because you never had the courage to charge us with it, and of which the full record is extant for anybody to read?

If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels?

You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long, we shall go on doing it.

Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, care-free, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the pricklings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.

But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the earth, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to t h e unexplored ends of the earth.

Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tails are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.

Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of motherhood and womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.

How did we do it? Almost by accident. Nearly two thousand years ago in far-off Palestine, our religion had fallen into decay and materialism. Money-changers were in possession of the temple. Degenerate, selfish priests mulcted our people and grew fat. Then a young patriot-idealist arose and went about the ]and calling for a revival of faith. He had no thought of setting up a new church. Like all the prophets before him, his only aim was to purify and revitalize the old creed. He attacked the priests and drove the money-changers from the temple. This brought him into conflict with the established order and its supporting pillars. The Roman authorities, who were in occupation of the country, fearing his revolutionary agitation as a political effort to oust them, arrested him, tried him and condemned him to death by crucifixion, a common form of execution at that time.

The followers of Jesus of Nazareth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed themselves into a brotherhood of pacifist non-resisters, sharing their memory of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first nor the last.

Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale of its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non-resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.

This was the beginning of our dominance in your world. But it was only a beginning. From this time forth your history is little more than a struggle for mastery between your own old pagan spirit and our Jewish spirit. Half your wars, great and little, are religious wars, fought over the interpretation of one thing or another in our teachings. You no sooner broke free from your primitive religious simplicity and attempted the practice of the pagan Roman learning than Luther armed with our gospels arose to down you and re-enthrone our heritage. Take the three principal revolutions in modern times — the French, the American and the Russian. What are they but the triumph of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic justice?

And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate you. At this very moment your churches are torn asunder by a civil war between Fundamentalists and Modernists, that is to say between those who cling to our teachings and traditions literally and those who are striving by slow steps to dispossess us. Again and again the Puritan heritage of Judea breaks out in waves of stage censorship, Sunday blue laws and national prohibition acts. And while these things are happening you twaddle about Jewish influence in the movies.

Is it any wonder you resent us? We have put a clog upon your progress. We have imposed upon you an alien book and an alien faith which you cannot swallow or digest, which is at cross-purposes with your native spirit, which keeps you everlastingly ill-at-ease, and which you lack the spirit either to reject or to accept in full.

In full, of course, you never have accepted our Christian teachings. In your hearts you still are pagans. You still love war and graven images and strife. You still take pride in the glory of the nude human figure. Your social conscience, in spite of all democracy and all your social revolution, is still a pitifully imperfect thing. We have merely divided your soul, confused your impulses, and paralyzed your desires. In the midst of battle you are obliged to kneel down to him who commanded you to turn the other cheek, who said "Resist not evil" and "Blessed are the peace-makers." In your rush for gain you are suddenly disturbed by a memory from your Sunday-school days about taking no thought for the morrow. In your industrial struggles, when you would smash a strike without compunction, you are suddenly reminded that the poor are blessed and that men are brothers in the Fatherhood of the Lord. And as you are about to yield to temptation, your Jewish training puts a deterrent hand on your shoulder and dashes the brimming cup from your lips. You Christians have never become Christianized. To that extent we have failed with you. But we have forever spoiled the fun of paganism for you.

So why should you not resent us? If we were in your place we should probably dislike you more cordially than you do us. But we should make no bones about telling you why. We should not resort to subterfuges and transparent pretexts. With millions of painfully respectable Jewish shopkeepers all about us we should not insult your intelligence and our own honesty by talking about communism as a Jewish philosophy. And with millions of hard-working impecunious Jewish peddlers and laborers we should not make ourselves ridiculous by talking about international capitalism as a Jewish monopoly. No. we should go straight to the point. We should contemplate this confused, ineffectual muddle which we call civilization, this half-Christian half-pagan medley, and — were our places reversed — we should say to you point-blank: "For this mess thanks to you, to your prophets, and to your Bible."

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(Edited by Totalitarian at 3:52 am on July 24, 2003)

Ex Nihilo
24th July 2003, 05:18
(Edited by Ex Nihilo at 6:14 am on July 24, 2003)

Ex Nihilo
24th July 2003, 06:14
Fascinating.

Vinny Rafarino
24th July 2003, 07:57
Watch out everyone. Here comes the big jewish invasion!

Dey got day minds on day money but no money in da swine. De gonna busta orthodox cap right in yo muthafuckin' gentile ass an' open up a whole can of muthafuckin' old testament on yo ass cracka!

You're an idiot Totalitarian.

elijahcraig
24th July 2003, 08:04
You're an idiot Totalitarian.

I agree.

Totalitarian
25th July 2003, 08:09
More constructive criticism from ComradeRAF, i see.

Ex Nihilo
25th July 2003, 08:10
Did you guys even read the whole article? It's pretty interesting if you think about it.

elijahcraig
25th July 2003, 08:11
Well, I'm Jewish, and I find a "case against the jews" idiotic. Just shut the fuck up.

notyetacommie
25th July 2003, 09:15
Well, I know Jews who hate the thought of being Jewish, and who hate other Jews. These people went to Israel and then ran back to Russia when they saw what Jewish nationalism is really about.

Lefty
25th July 2003, 09:37
I'm of the mind that hatred of any kind based on creed, color, or religion is worthless. Therefore, I find a blanket statement against any religion to be shit. Religion doesn't determine the quality of a person, I don't care what you say. Each religion (with the exception of Satanism) is, in essence, "good." Not a whole lot of religions preach being an asshole as a virtue.

Totalitarian
25th July 2003, 11:40
Quote: from elijahcraig on 8:11 am on July 25, 2003
Well, I'm Jewish, and I find a "case against the jews" idiotic. Just shut the fuck up.


But can you deny the central premise of the argument....that the adoption of christianity by the pagan euros represented a sort of ideological conquest of foreign origin?

elijahcraig
26th July 2003, 05:51
Who the fuck cares?

Totalitarian
26th July 2003, 08:21
I do, because Jewish memes dominate our society and this affects us in all sorts of ways.

elijahcraig
26th July 2003, 09:03
Alright Nazi, that'll be enough.

Totalitarian
26th July 2003, 12:18
Don't call me Nazi. You can't deny that Christianity dominates Western societies, and that Christianity is of Jewish origin. Many christians worship Jews and believe that they are "God's Chosen People". That is a type of supremacism.

Vinny Rafarino
26th July 2003, 14:13
Totalitarian.

You are a Nazi. Try doing something costructive with your time in place of babbling about nonsense no one but you and your fellow Nazi's care about. I heard Lego has some neat toys nowadays that should be right up your alley. Have your mum take you over to the hobby shoppe for some small paint brushes and paint and you can even create your own little white Lego society. I reckon you can even make little Lego ovens for all those pesky jews.

DC, please fuck off.

Comrade Gorley
26th July 2003, 20:36
Quote: from Totalitarian on 12:18 pm on July 26, 2003
Don't call me Nazi. You can't deny that Christianity dominates Western societies, and that Christianity is of Jewish origin. Many christians worship Jews and believe that they are "God's Chosen People". That is a type of supremacism.


Many Christians, eh? Just like many "communists" support the banning of homosexuality?

so you think the Jews have control and manipulation over all the bad things done in the name of religion? In a sense, that Jews are responsible for what we've become?


Can you say "Hitler complex"?

Of course, the first Christians WERE Jews. And the first communists were Germans. So does that mean all the communist parties today are run by Germans, and they're responsible for Stalin? "Christians" have persecuted Jews for centuries. There are very few Jewish Christian leaders. This arguement is RIDICULOUS, UNINFORMED, AND BIASED. Sounds FASCIST to me.

Nazi.

Invader Zim
26th July 2003, 20:44
Quote: from Comrade Gorley on 8:36 pm on July 26, 2003

Quote: from Totalitarian on 12:18 pm on July 26, 2003
Don't call me Nazi. You can't deny that Christianity dominates Western societies, and that Christianity is of Jewish origin. Many christians worship Jews and believe that they are "God's Chosen People". That is a type of supremacism.


Many Christians, eh? Just like many "communists" support the banning of homosexuality?

so you think the Jews have control and manipulation over all the bad things done in the name of religion? In a sense, that Jews are responsible for what we've become?


Can you say "Hitler complex"?

Of course, the first Christians WERE Jews. And the first communists were Germans. So does that mean all the communist parties today are run by Germans, and they're responsible for Stalin? "Christians" have persecuted Jews for centuries. There are very few Jewish Christian leaders. This arguement is RIDICULOUS, UNINFORMED, AND BIASED. Sounds FASCIST to me.

Nazi.

Good post Comrade Gorley.

Totalitarian he seams to have you by the balls on that one, maybe at Christmas I will send you a copy of Mein Kamph.

MikeyBoy
26th July 2003, 20:58
Bahhhh, typical anti-semite arguments.


"The jews FORCED us to gas them! They threatened us with their small round hats!"

Comrade Gorley
30th July 2003, 18:42
Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2003, 07:44 PM


Good post Comrade Gorley.

Totalitarian he seams to have you by the balls on that one, maybe at Christmas I will send you a copy of Mein Kamph.
Thanks, AK. LOL. Although I doubt he has the attention span to read through it, despite the eerie similiarity of theology...

MikeyBoy- LOL, EXACTLY!

Totalitarian
31st July 2003, 01:31
Quote: from Comrade Gorley on 8:36 pm on July 26, 2003
so you think the Jews have control and manipulation over all the bad things done in the name of religion? In a sense, that Jews are responsible for what we've become?

No, i didn't say jews are responsible for all bad things done in the name of religion. I'm just pointing out that they invented christianity.


Of course, the first Christians WERE Jews. And the first communists were Germans. So does that mean all the communist parties today are run by Germans, and they're responsible for Stalin?

No. I'm not claiming that today's christians are physically dominated by jews.

Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tails are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.

Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of motherhood and womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.



There are very few Jewish Christian leaders.

If jews are a religion, rather than a race, then "christian jew" is an oxymoron.

Comrade Gorley
31st July 2003, 01:45
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 12:31 AM

Quote: from Comrade Gorley on 8:36 pm on July 26, 2003
so you think the Jews have control and manipulation over all the bad things done in the name of religion? In a sense, that Jews are responsible for what we've become?

No, i didn't say jews are responsible for all bad things done in the name of religion. I'm just pointing out that they invented christianity.


Of course, the first Christians WERE Jews. And the first communists were Germans. So does that mean all the communist parties today are run by Germans, and they're responsible for Stalin?

No. I'm not claiming that today's christians are physically dominated by jews.

Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tails are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.

Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of motherhood and womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.



There are very few Jewish Christian leaders.

If jews are a religion, rather than a race, then "christian jew" is an oxymoron.

No. I'm not claiming that today's christians are physically dominated by jews.


You seem to miss the point. I'm saying that accusing the Jews of what's done in the name of Jesus is the EQUIVALENT of claiming the Germans of being responsible for Stalin. Using your logic, because Marx was German and the inventor of Communism, than the persecution of homosexuals, Christians etc. under Stalin in Russia is Marx's fault. Of course, this is ridiculous because Stalin was also opposed to the German dictator, Hitler- who, in turn, REJECTED Marx, who WAS GERMAN. In the same way, Jesus was Jewish, but rejected by the Jews, and claiming the persecution of the Jews- IN THE NAME OF JESUS- is the Jews' fault. THIS IS STUPID AND ILLOGICAL.

If jews are a religion, rather than a race, then "christian jew" is an oxymoron.

I never made a claim like this. The Jews are descended from the tribes of Israel. The term "Jews" CAN describe practicers of Judaism, but there's a Christian denomination of that anyway (Messianic Judaism). Anyhow, my father works for someone who calls himself a Christian Jew, because he IS of Jewish descent, and happens to be a Christian. Only using the term "Jew" to describe a religion sounds like some paranoid dodge of offending someone.

You go on to describe how statues of Jewish fisherman are so highly revered by Christians. It's true that the Roman Catholic Church DID hypocritically put many Jews on a pedestal, and nearly worshipped them (the practice of praying to the saints is STILL practiced), hence the Reformation. Besides, as historians have shown, the "religion is the opiate of the masses" remark made by Marx was most likely geared towards the Catholic church. This is the equivalent of claiming that Christianity is a copy of paganism because some Catholic statues happened to resemble Roman gods. Blaming an entire religion on one sect, and than in turn blaming that sect on a group of Jewish people whose religious ideaology was loosely copied from it, IS STUPID, and, most convincingly, NAZI!

Convert to Communism and forget this petty racism BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. B)

MikeyBoy
31st July 2003, 01:55
It's all true. Us jews created monotheism to inslave all of mankind. Die, goyim! :lol:

:rolleyes:

ALL YOUR RELIGION ARE BELONG TO US! :lol:

Comrade Gorley
31st July 2003, 02:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 01:55 AM
It's all true. Us jews created monotheism to inslave all of mankind. Die, goyim! :lol:

:rolleyes:

ALL YOUR RELIGION ARE BELONG TO US! :lol:
Now THAT would make a HELL of a great video.

Totalitarian
31st July 2003, 03:02
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 01:55 AM
It's all true. Us jews created monotheism to inslave all of mankind. Die, goyim! :lol:

:rolleyes:

ALL YOUR RELIGION ARE BELONG TO US! :lol:
I love an honest jew :D

Comrade Gorley
31st July 2003, 03:09
Originally posted by Totalitarian+Jul 31 2003, 03:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Totalitarian @ Jul 31 2003, 03:02 AM)
[email protected] 31 2003, 01:55 AM
It&#39;s all true. Us jews created monotheism to inslave all of mankind. Die, goyim&#33; :lol:

:rolleyes:

ALL YOUR RELIGION ARE BELONG TO US&#33; :lol:
I love an honest jew :D [/b]
Almost as much as we love witty nazis, right? B)

Totalitarian
31st July 2003, 05:34
Why do you perceive that anyone who criticises judaism is a nazi?

Comrade Gorley
31st July 2003, 16:22
Totalarian, criticizing Judaism obviously doesn&#39;t make you a Nazi. I myself do it on occasion. However, you are blaming all the evil things done by Christianity on a group of Jewish people, who were rejected BY their people, and laying the blame at the feet OF THE JEWS, than proceeding to say it&#39;s their fault. That was Hitler&#39;s manifesto: That the Jews were directly responsible for everything bad that happened, and made remarks like "The Jew has always been a people with definite
racial characteristics and never a religion", which I&#39;m sure you would agree with. If you say, "The Jews are responsible for (insert-mass-phenomenom)" and potraying that in a negative way, YOU ARE A NAZI. Unless Christianity was formed solely in jerusalem, consisting only of Jews, and had it&#39;s headquarters in Jerusalem, the Jews were not solely responsible for it. As it were, the Jews that WERE converted were usually wandering evangelists.

THAT&#39;S why you&#39;re a Nazi.


Nazi.

Xprewatik RED
31st July 2003, 16:29
With totalitarians logic, why don&#39;t we just place the blame on the invention of fire. That lead to all these problems&#33; Damn evil flames

Totalitarian
2nd August 2003, 02:23
Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tails are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.

Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of motherhood and womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.

How did we do it? Almost by accident. Nearly two thousand years ago in far-off Palestine, our religion had fallen into decay and materialism. Money-changers were in possession of the temple. Degenerate, selfish priests mulcted our people and grew fat. Then a young patriot-idealist arose and went about the ]and calling for a revival of faith. He had no thought of setting up a new church. Like all the prophets before him, his only aim was to purify and revitalize the old creed. He attacked the priests and drove the money-changers from the temple. This brought him into conflict with the established order and its supporting pillars. The Roman authorities, who were in occupation of the country, fearing his revolutionary agitation as a political effort to oust them, arrested him, tried him and condemned him to death by crucifixion, a common form of execution at that time.

The followers of Jesus of Nazareth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed themselves into a brotherhood of pacifist non-resisters, sharing their memory of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first nor the last.

Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale of its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non-resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.

Vinny Rafarino
2nd August 2003, 07:46
What exactly is your point with that last post? Did you assume that the jews were ALL pacifists? They have their militant groups as well. They are called zionists.


All that bold text really made me change my tune about jews. I think I&#39;m gonna go straight to the temple and knock a jew&#39;s yamaka right off his head. That will show &#39;em who&#39;s boss.

Totalitarian
2nd August 2003, 10:03
What exactly is your point with that last post? Did you assume that the jews were ALL pacifists? They have their militant groups as well. They are called zionists.

Of course not all jews were pacificists. Christianity began by preaching pacificism however.

All that bold text really made me change my tune about jews. I think I&#39;m gonna go straight to the temple and knock a jew&#39;s yamaka right off his head. That will show &#39;em who&#39;s boss.

No&#33; Don&#39;t do it. Hate leads to....dark side.

Comrade Gorley
2nd August 2003, 16:07
You&#39;re living proof of that, aren&#39;t you?

Nazi.

Totalitarian
3rd August 2003, 03:04
hmmm...i&#39;ve had enough of you morons. This experience at &#39;che-lives&#39; confirmed to me that Communism is one of the stupidest philosophies in the history of Mankind. You will only ever come to power by the use of terrorism, violence and horrific repression (history confirms this).

Equality is a myth of ridiculous proportions. People will never be equal, nor should they be. Hopefully, despite the sustained efforts of marxist degenerates to lower the quality of gene pools worldwide, the human race will actually evolve into the future. If not, you can all be comforted by the role your idiotic beliefs had in bringing about a dysgenic hell-on-earth.

That said, there are some of you with a modicum of intelligence and an honest desire to better the world and its peoples. The rest of you are either young children with no sense, people who smoke too much pot, or angry old men like Comrade RAF who just like the idea of creating as much murder and mayhem as they can in order to bring some excitement to their pathetic lives.

Goodbye and good riddance&#33;

Hampton
3rd August 2003, 03:18
Thus spoke the nazi.

Vinny Rafarino
3rd August 2003, 03:47
Thanks for your time Totalitarian&#33; Have fun wanking off to videos of Nazi ovens&#33;

Dark Capitalist
3rd August 2003, 04:07
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 11:04 PM
hmmm...i&#39;ve had enough of you morons. This experience at &#39;che-lives&#39; confirmed to me that Communism is one of the stupidest philosophies in the history of Mankind. You will only ever come to power by the use of terrorism, violence and horrific repression (history confirms this).

Equality is a myth of ridiculous proportions. People will never be equal, nor should they be. Hopefully, despite the sustained efforts of marxist degenerates to lower the quality of gene pools worldwide, the human race will actually evolve into the future. If not, you can all be comforted by the role your idiotic beliefs had in bringing about a dysgenic hell-on-earth.

That said, there are some of you with a modicum of intelligence and an honest desire to better the world and its peoples. The rest of you are either young children with no sense, people who smoke too much pot, or angry old men like Comrade RAF who just like the idea of creating as much murder and mayhem as they can in order to bring some excitement to their pathetic lives.

Goodbye and good riddance&#33;
Damn straight.

Vinny Rafarino
3rd August 2003, 04:47
Does that mean you are finally going to fuck off now DC?


What a treat&#33;