Which country do you think currently has the best government?

[scarletghoul]

Don't reply like "oh all governments are bad bla bla", there must be at least one which you dislike a tiny bit less than others, or approve of on some issues.

I am most fond of the Evo Morales's governing of Bolivia. But have not researched much into this

Anyway which country do you think currently has the best government?

[FreeFocus]

I generally like Evo, but he seems too reformist most of the time. I liked Chavez, but he's undertaken some actions recently and said some naive things, primarily about Obama, that have caused me to reevaluate my attitude. The small social democratic states in Europe don't seem bad, not that they're revolutionary or anything, but they generally have more intelligent populations and there's some semblance of a democratic disposition among the people. Still, Norway especially is locked arm-in-arm with American imperialism, via NATO.

[mykittyhasaboner]

Cuba, for obvious reasons. Venezuela isnt that bad either.

[BIG BROTHER]

As bureaucratic and authoritarian that the Cuban government is, I think they're pretty decent when compared with other "democracies".

[scarletghoul]

Does anyone like Nepal, Cyprus, and Moldova, three countries with multi-party systems where communist parties have great power?
There are a few threads on Nepal, but I havnt seen the other 2 mentioned at all since I joined RevLeft. So I made this thread to help us look at the present situation and present socialist and communist governments rather than just looking romantically at the past.

[not_of_this_world]

Morales has sold out. He needs to talk with Alan Woods! There can be no compromise with the rich capitalistic pigs! Hugo Chavez is my man! He treads where none dare travel, ex prisoner, ex military, he knows there is so such thing as a peaceful revolution. When talking about Latin America we cannot compare any leaders there to leaders here, they are cut from a different piece of cloth. It is red with blood and guts fought against the land owners in Latin America. Chavez knows the fight and he knows what Simon Bolivar had in mind. Now he is listening to Alan Woods who says give no quarter to the rich landed aristocracy! Socialism must not compromise and can never coexist with capitalism. Capitalism must die and nationalization must take place as soon as possible, you must strike while the iron is hot! Oh how I wish America was as far along as Venezuela! Long live the revolution, Long live Chavez! Viva la Revoluclion worldwide!

[The Douche]

Morales has sold out. He needs to talk with Alan Woods! There can be no compromise with the rich capitalistic pigs! Hugo Chavez is my man! He treads where none dare travel, ex prisoner, ex military, he knows there is so such thing as a peaceful revolution. When talking about Latin America we cannot compare any leaders there to leaders here, they are cut from a different piece of cloth. It is red with blood and guts fought against the land owners in Latin America. Chavez knows the fight and he knows what Simon Bolivar had in mind. Now he is listening to Alan Woods who says give no quarter to the rich landed aristocracy! Socialism must not compromise and can never coexist with capitalism. Capitalism must die and nationalization must take place as soon as possible, you must strike while the iron is hot! Oh how I wish America was as far along as Venezuela! Long live the revolution, Long live Chavez! Viva la Revoluclion worldwide!

Your party endorsed Obama.:thumbup1:

[Kukulofori]

Fidel Castro basically spent his life on bringing Cuba to a decent living standard. He's not only my favourite modern leader, he is my favourite leader of all time. Raul's continuing that fight, so he has my support as well.

[Comrade_Red]

Cuba...possibly Norway...

[Comrade_Red]

Your party endorsed Obama.:thumbup1:


That's for damn sure. Now, i'm not going to assume that the CPUSA member this was directed to agrees with them on this, but man, that party sold us out most regrettably.

[Yazman]

The policies of the Cuban government I have found to be somewhat agreeable since the revolution, although there are some major problems as well. Lately they seem to be quite reformist and this is a significant problem.

[TheDifferenceEngine]

Not sure about the actual government, but Switzerland has an interesting system of direct democracy.

[ev]

I feel it would be naive for me to comment on this as I don't know every governments politics & situation.

[Post-Something]

Cuba by a mile.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Cuba by far
next to Cuba, Bolivia's the fuckin third reich

I think Evo has some interesting ideas as well, except the thing where he wants to whip convicted criminals like the Incas did. What the fuck, Evo?

[Victor]

Cuba seems to be holding fast to socialism. I'm optimistic about Venezuela (I don't know about Bolivia). Maybe the Nepalese Maoists can do some good (it looks to go either way now).

[Hessian Peel]

I support the Cuban, north Korean, Nepalese, Venezuelan and Bolivian governments on an anti-imperialist basis. While I acknowledge that all anti-imperialist countries face extremely difficult circumstances there is certainly a lot of room for improvement and none of these revolutions are currently on the road to socialism, in my opinion.

[Dimentio]

I would answer that I sympathise with the Venezuelan government to very large extents.

Historically speaking, the most efficient regime ever was probably the Incan Empire, which had an entirely nationalised economy and a distribution system where everyone got clothes, food and housing, with Copper Age technology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incan_Socialism

I mean, that's impressive.

[not_of_this_world]

Where did you get the idea that I had a political party? I don't even vote man. I want you to retract your statement or meet me in the parking lot!

[not_of_this_world]

My party was not on the ballot dude. I did not vote. Half the revolutionaries here have killed innocents so hold your tongue.

[Ptah_Khnemu]

Cuba, by far. Viva la revolucion!

[StalinFanboy]

My party was not on the ballot dude. I did not vote. Half the revolutionaries here have killed innocents so hold your tongue.
So tough.

[The Douche]

Where did you get the idea that I had a political party? I don't even vote man. I want you to retract your statement or meet me in the parking lot!

You are the one who listed your organization as the CPUSA. That is a party, which you claim as "your organization". I pointed out the fact that they endorsed Obama.


My party was not on the ballot dude. I did not vote. Half the revolutionaries here have killed innocents so hold your tongue.

Your party wasn't on the ballot because they support the democrats. And quit acting hard, you nerd.

[Revy]

The CPUSA is celebrating Obama's win. They're now telling their members to attend his inauguration to celebrate. So I think it might be legitimate for cmoney to bring up the fact that you're in the CPUSA when you're saying all this about Morales being a sellout to capitalists.

It's very shameful of them to engage in this nonsense supporting the Democrats. I wonder if there will be some kind of split of those who become disillusioned with this policy of the party.

That doesn't mean I believe those "socialist" groups that supported Nader and McKinney are better at all. I find their reasons as shallow.

[The Idler]

Chiapas isn't a country but the EZLN government there seem to obey the people so I'd say Chiapas.

[lvl100]

Does anyone like Nepal, Cyprus, and Moldova, three countries with multi-party systems where communist parties have great power?
There are a few threads on Nepal, but I havnt seen the other 2 mentioned at all since I joined RevLeft. So I made this thread to help us look at the present situation and present socialist and communist governments rather than just looking romantically at the past.

Communist Party in Moldova its a bunch of former soviet bureaucrats. converted to hardcore capitalists after the SU`s fall.
Their policies have nothing to do with marxism, but more with the "jungle" capitalism.
They can hardly be considered even "social-democrats" due to high social inequity

[Robespierre2.0]

North Korea, hands down. Cuba would be a close second.

[The Douche]

North Korea, hands down. Cuba would be a close second.

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but do you really think North Korea is the best government in the world right now?

[Raúl Duke]

I find the government system of Switzerland interesting...

But if you mean "government" as in ruling party/administration well I don't know really.

[spartan]

Well when I am in a liberty sort of mood I would say that Switzerland's Participation Democracy (often mistook for a Direct Democracy) is good, when I am in a tyranny sort of mood (tyranny in the ancient Greek sense, not the modern sense) then I would have to say that Hugo Chavez's Populist Venezuela seems awfully attractive at times.

[Robespierre2.0]

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but do you really think North Korea is the best government in the world right now?


I do. Even though they've deviated from Marxism-Leninism with their revisionist 'Juche' theory, the economic and political system there has retained the important parts of the Soviet model- central planning and the hegemony of the vanguard party.

That's more than we can say for the other so-called 'socialist' countries.
Well, I'll make an exception for Cuba-- I like them, but their economy is mostly export and tourism-based, making them dependent on foreign powers.

[lvl100]

I do. Even though they've deviated from Marxism-Leninism with their revisionist 'Juche' theory, the economic and political system there has retained the important parts of the Soviet model- central planning and the hegemony of the vanguard party.

That's more than we can say for the other so-called 'socialist' countries.
Well, I'll make an exception for Cuba-- I like them, but their economy is mostly export and tourism-based, making them dependent on foreign powers..

At least Cuba is doing real business, not like the "self sufficient" DPRK who is mostly crying after donations.

[Enragé]

Greece! A government besieged by its people, who can't control shit at the moment.

perfect no?

[Wakizashi the Bolshevik]

Well, I don't have one exact favorite, but I like Cuba, North Korea and Venezuela most. I like China, Laos, Vietnam, Libya, and all other Socialist nations too.