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Urban Rubble

24th July 2003, 00:48

God these kind of threads are getting old.

With a few exceptions you guys sound like pissed off little kids, you know who you are. Did that lame ass paragraph that CI wrote really piss you guys off that much ? You know he justs wants all the little kiddies to scream at him.

Remember when you were really young and your parents told you to ignore the people calling you names because all they want is a response ? No ? That was just my parents ? Oh well, it's good advice in this case.

At any rate, I am also applauding the death of Uday and Qusai, or however the fuck you spell it. Those guys were deserved torture. That's beside the point though. The fact that you said Iraq is "liberated" really says alot about you. I wouldn't call dead relatives (what's the civilain count at now, about 6,000?), blown up homes and no water for the ones that are left. I'm all for the Husseins being out of power, but if you think things are much better now you're kidding yourself.

Zombie

24th July 2003, 01:14

I'll rejoice the day the White House gets burned to ashes.

Felicia

24th July 2003, 01:21

Also, somewhat more cryptically, and I swear this is true, I was "boo-ing" Felecia being so blood-thirsty.

Seriously. Anybody familiar with her here knows she's a sweet chick (what with her cartoon avatars and baby-talk sigs) (seriously) and to hear her applauding bloodshed sort of "distressed" me.

Seriously. Swear to God. It bothered me.
Well, I was just saying it because CI's a dickhead :angry:

yeah, baby talk sig's! I like those!!!!
I've actuallybeen using some decent stuff lately, but I haven't changed eh ;)

Capitalist Imperial

24th July 2003, 02:02

felicia, you are one sad individual, applauding the death of soldiers that fight and die your safety, and freedom, and right to even say what you are saying

yes, I know you are canadian, but you receive our protection by-proxy

you probably don't even understand the irony of what you are doing

I hope that there are no parents of soldiers on this board

Capitalist Imperial

24th July 2003, 02:04

Quote: from Blibblob on 10:33 pm on July 23, 2003
Ouch dude. you kinda have to feel sorry for them, they're in the army, therefore they are brainwashed.

This is just inane.

I want you to explain this, as being in the military is not tatamount to being braiwashed. To the contrary, I submit that any US soldier has 3x you initiative and 100 times your guts, you sorry leftist piece of insipid filth

truthaddict11

24th July 2003, 02:05

welcome back CI glad to see that the three stooges reunion was finally able to take place in the OI, i look forward to every commie puke comment you spew out

Felicia

24th July 2003, 03:50

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 10:02 pm on July 23, 2003
felicia, you are one sad individual, applauding the death of soldiers that fight and die your safety, and freedom, and right to even say what you are saying

yes, I know you are canadian, but you receive our protection by-proxy

you probably don't even understand the irony of what you are doing

I hope that there are no parents of soldiers on this board

Oh, that's right, your people are dying in Iraq for my safety, now that's what I call delusional feelings of superiority. If my country felt that Iraq was any threat we would've been over there too, but Iraq was hardly a threat and my country isn't messed up enough to attack a country for oil.

*rolls eyes*

Listen up bud, If canada didn't have the US in such close proximity adn the relationship that has developed, we'd just develop the military power ourselves, don't act like we need you, being buddy-buddy with the US isn't high on many canadians lists, believe that. Ha, a bunch of kids just beat up american tourists camping in BC, they needed medical attention and their vehicle was totalled....I had to laugh when I heard about that, it was so funny. humph. (sorry AK, but I just had to)

There wouldn't be parents of soldiers on this board. Most of the members are too young for that.

(Edited by felicia at 11:50 pm on July 23, 2003)

American Kid

24th July 2003, 04:25

Booooooo

-ak

Felicia

24th July 2003, 04:40

Oh, stop booing me would you :(

not fair ;)

Ghost Writer

24th July 2003, 07:56

You're a vile piece of trash, Felicia.

joanofarch

24th July 2003, 08:28

Quote: from Ghost Writer on 7:56 am on July 24, 2003
You're a vile piece of trash, Felicia.

I concur! Not surprising that she would quote Voltaire, a name synonymous with blatant anti-Semitism.

Ghost Writer

24th July 2003, 08:35

Not surprising at all. I am sure if we were in the right time and place in history, she would make herself at home among oven-pushing Nazis. Ohh, but don't care question gay marriage around her, because she is so superior and elite. That's right, the new Nazi movement has found its home among human rights activitists, radical gay political interest groups, and public health pressure groups. It all makes perfect since to me now. Nazism is on the rise again, only wearing a different mask.

Invader Zim

24th July 2003, 12:40

Hi CI, its good to see that you still love us.Tell me why have you been away so long? I missed your delightful ignorance, che-lives just was not the same with out you... Possibly marginly better but still not the same.

But anyway back to serious issues, I cant say that I am sad that the ace of Hearts and Clubs have been found and killed... infact quite the oppersit, good riddance to the murdering bastards, hopefully daddy will be next.

Felicia

24th July 2003, 13:38

"You're a vile piece of trash, Felicia."

Oh, no, please don't hurl baseless insults at me! Oh wait, I see who they're coming from now.....

from joanof arc
"I concur! Not surprising that she would quote Voltaire, a name synonymous with blatant anti-Semitism."

Oh? and how long have you been around here that you feel you can pass judgements like that? I use Voltaire because he was a great thinker. Which is obvioiusly comething you weren't doing when you chose your username. Joan lead the army under the "name of god", but of course her own selfish greed for power corrupted her and she fought it for herself (so I've heard... but this isn't about Joan of arc) and was later burned. Good job, I applaud the stupid actions of another rightist..... *rolls eyes*, grow up, you just think that she was a martyr and that's why you're using her name. How much do you know about your Joan? And you insult me for quoting an intellectual, how childish.

from Ghost writer
"Not surprising at all. I am sure if we were in the right time and place in history, she would make herself at home among oven-pushing Nazis. Ohh, but don't care question gay marriage around her, because she is so superior and elite. That's right, the new Nazi movement has found its home among human rights activitists, radical gay political interest groups, and public health pressure groups. It all makes perfect since to me now. Nazism is on the rise again, only wearing a different mask.'

Ooo, aren't you a smart little boy.
Why should there be need to question gay marriage? How like you to bring up another topic when you can't bash enough with the one we're on. The only nazi movement is the one you signed on with when you declared yourself on the right side of politics. Grow up kid, puch your accusations onto your dimwitted friends, if you have any.

(Edited by felicia at 11:31 am on July 24, 2003)

(Edited by felicia at 11:33 am on July 24, 2003)

Felicia

24th July 2003, 15:37

I can't resist this......

oh, by the way Joanofarc..... or should I say, TouCHE? We've gotten rid of you once, we can do it again. You had better behave yourself. :angry:

Sabocat

24th July 2003, 15:52

Ha, a bunch of kids just beat up american tourists camping in BC, they needed medical attention and their vehicle was totalled....

That's actually kind of disturbing. What had they done to deserve this beating?

Felicia

24th July 2003, 16:02

Quote: from Disgustapated on 11:52 am on July 24, 2003

Ha, a bunch of kids just beat up american tourists camping in BC, they needed medical attention and their vehicle was totalled....

That's actually kind of disturbing. What had they done to deserve this beating?
They were a bunch of punk anti-american kids who did it. It's not like canadians haven't faced some hostility in the US for not cooperating with the Iraq invasion.

Anarchist Freedom

24th July 2003, 17:43

capitilist i hate you your one sided not diverse dont see the other side of the argument do you yah so i want soicalism and i think guns should stay legal so what if i support something different that your insacure stupid ass little shit ways maybe i support them because they have the values that i want with held and im not celebrating the war in iraq were there for oil not liberation if anything were not free look at us afraid to say shit in person beacause society condems us to not oppose things senator john mcain as we speak is campaighning for a new act which will imprison a person who speaks out against a person in politics so if i said to bush on tv i disagree with bush goin to war i would be in jail for speaking my first amendment right to speak out against someone or something capatilist imperial you disgust me your probably thirteen years old you heard a little of your parents political talk and you went of from there your blinded from everyone elses political ideas beacause society says communism is evil than they say look at russia or cuba cuba is fine its just your fuckin capatilist who wont accpet the fact there different and russia from what i can tell never had pure communism they had stalinism capatilist imperial your a one sided blinded soicaly challenged moron

joanofarch

24th July 2003, 18:30

Quote: from felicia on 3:37 pm on July 24, 2003
I can't resist this......

oh, by the way Joanofarc..... or should I say, TouCHE? We've gotten rid of you once, we can do it again. You had better behave yourself. :angry:

Tell me you jest. I was under the impression that radically anti-Semitic Nazi enthusiasts such as your self were most susceptible to “the ban?”

And now i know how Joan of Arch felt,
Now I know how Joan of Arch felt;
As the flames rose to her Roman nose
And her walkman started to melt.

Urban Rubble

24th July 2003, 19:50

"Listen up bud, If canada didn't have the US in such close proximity adn the relationship that has developed, we'd just develop the military power ourselves, don't act like we need you, being buddy-buddy with the US isn't high on many canadians lists, believe that. Ha, a bunch of kids just beat up american tourists camping in BC, they needed medical attention and their vehicle was totalled....I had to laugh when I heard about that, it was so funny. humph. (sorry AK, but I just had to) "

Felicia, usually I like you, I really do, I'm not trying to pick on you, but those comments were ridiculous. I actually pretty amazed that you would make such a fucking stupid statement.

First off, I don't know the situation of that beating, who knows, the Americans might have deserved it. But to applaud the beating of a few Americans who, from what I know, did nothing wrong is fucking sick. I'm seriously sick of all your anti American (not the country, the people) comments. Do you think it's O.K to beat the shit out of Americans just because our government is fucking the world up ? I know alot of Americans are assholes, but if you think Canadians are much better you are fucking delusional( or however you spell that).

Being buddy buddy may not be high on YOUR list, but trust me, it's sitting at just about #1 on your governments list. To say that the reason you guys don't have as powerful of a military as we do is because we are so close is just stupid. Even if that were true, which it's not, that would be a pretty bad reflection on Canada.

You seem to think Canada is some vastly superior Northern utopia, it isn't. Canada is basically as bad as the U.S, just with less influence.

I like the people and the culture of Canada, I love the cities and the land you guys have, but I'm seriously sick of you *****ing about how bad the U.S is (I know, we are) and then acting like Canada is just fucking great.

Ex Nihilo

24th July 2003, 20:11

Canada's military could never compare to ours no matter how hard they tried.

Jesus Christ

24th July 2003, 20:20

Canada doesnt need a vast military to "protect" themselves and to "LIBERATE' other countries because Canada doesnt fuck with other countries like the US does and Canada doesnt need to play big brother like the US does
Canada would be just fine without the US under it
and it may not seem like that much, but because of the US and its economical problems, inflation has gone from .5% to 3% in a single year
dont flatter yourself about how much Canada needs the US
cause they dont need the US at all

Comrade Hector

24th July 2003, 20:27

Capitalist Imperial, you call the US imperialist attack on Iraq a "victory", and yet there are still US soldiers being killed on a daily basis by Iraqi resistance. You know, in a way you can compare this US domination of Iraq to the Nazi domination of France. Once the Vichy government was installed by the Nazis, an anti-Fascist resistance was formed; tiny at first but then grew, and became more organized and committed to beating back the Nazis. It looks like the same thing is happening in Iraq. You're one of those idiots who believes America is fighting against "international terrorism", so tell me how do you feel about the fact that the USA created al-Qaeda, the Taliban, Osama Bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein? If you want to fight a nation sponsoring international terrorism, then fight the USA. They will not rest until every nation in this world has that flag of genocide, and will go by any means to accomplish it. By the way, Iraq was liberated from their oil, but not from oppression. Iraq will only be truely liberated when the Iraqi people can decide how to run their country without Hussein, and without US exploitation.

US/BRITISH IMPERIALISTS OUT OF IRAQ!

DEFEND NORTH KOREA'S RIGHT TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

(Edited by Comrade Hector at 8:30 pm on July 24, 2003)

(Edited by Comrade Hector at 8:34 pm on July 24, 2003)

Urban Rubble

24th July 2003, 20:45

"DEFEND NORTH KOREA'S RIGHT TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS! "

Nice quote, this one is fresh off that tard farm. How about we defend he right for people not to have to worry about Nuclear weapons ? I agree, if the U.S can have nukes so can North Korea, but shouldn't we be trying to get rid of the nukes instead of trying to get more ?

I'm sounding like a conservative in this post. Don't worry, I'm still as commie as ever, I just think people are really biased in their anti Americanism to the point where they ignore other countries flaws.

Vinny Rafarino

24th July 2003, 23:07

touCHE or johnofarc or whatever you silly name is this week;

Your statements that Felicia is a "nazi" are completely rhetorical (look the word up in the dictionary son) you have absolutely no basis besides her signature to support your absurd comments on. She is a communist you imbecile. She may be a pain in the arse but she is no Nazi. You are a twat. I see you and Ghost Whiner have a lot in common. A mediocre knowledge of politics and economics and absolutely no common sense.

Remember morons, without the Soviet Red army you all would have been under Nazi occupation. The Soviets had the bottle to actually fight the Nazi's when it became clear they had no intention of stopping their Imperialistic George Dubya Bushesque actions against the people of Europe. You fucking pussies would have sat back like cowards while the Jewish population of Europe was decimated. Oh, I sometimes forget, that's exactly what the Yanquees wanted anyhow, seeing that the majority of the Government and a huge portion of the masses are anti-Semetic cancers on the skin of humanity. You both prove this in every post you make.

Keep posting away though kiddies, it sure gives us a laugh.

joanofarch

25th July 2003, 01:55

Forgive me. I commonly equate rabid anti-Semitism with Nazism. You do boast a significant point: Though prevalent in communist Russia, anti-Semitism never played an integral role in Soviet ideology...it was just a perk. Felicia, let me make it up to you. Since I accused you of being a devote Nazi, when in reality you are nothing more then a knee-jerk limousine leftist Jew hater, I have gone to great lengths to locate and provide for you some more profound quotes from your idol and all time great thinker, Voltaire:

*You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people, who for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most detestabJe superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all peoples which tolerate and enrich them.

*I know that there are some Jews in the English colonies. These marranos go wherever there is money to be made But whether these circumcised who sell old clothes claim that they are of the tribe of Naphtali or Issachar is not of the slightest importance. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have ever dirtied the face of the earth.

*They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.

Not surprising that a communist would worship such gruesome anti-semetic thought faux-pas. I am flattered that you would compare me to Ghost Writer. Though we are similar ideologically, he is vastly intellectually superior to me. I look up to him. Not only does He vividly demonstrate a capacity for unbridled success; he
recognizes and embraces a system that encourages such a capacity to be stretched to its maximum dimension.

(Edited by joanofarch at 1:59 am on July 25, 2003)

Felicia

25th July 2003, 03:31

joanofarch
Whether ot not Voltaire was an anti-semite is quite irrelevant to me using his quote, for I have never exhibited anti-semetic behaviour and feel no need to think that way. I'm not nearly a nazi, although I find is funny to read a righty calling a lefty "nazi". Kind of like the kettle calling the pot black.....

urban rubble
If you support the harsh actions of such a government, than yes, you should get the crap beaten out of you. I don't know about these people, but it's a few less americans that we have to worry about coming here for vacations, them and ghost writer.

If you don't think that canadians are much better than you are dilusional.

If you can say that being "buddy buddy" is high on the canadian governments list..... you obviously know nothing about canada. Yes, we love america, especially after the beef ban they've placed on us after just ONE case that showed up several months ago. The problem has been taken care of sonce then, we are loosing hundreds of millions of dollars a day, and it's affecting OUR FARMERS THE MOST!! Quite similar to the time they banned PEI potatoes due to a condition present with the potatoes, problems can always be handled better than to screw over someone elses economy, screning and all of that can always be done. But yet, more countries have chosen to ban our beef......No one does this to the workers of my country and expect me to still like them, or my government to still want to be "buddy buddy" Most canadians would want nothing more than to be further distanced for your country and it's reputation, but there are some americans blind to our changing sentiment towards them. Canada is not half as bad as the US and you know it too.

Ex Nihilo
No one has claimed that we would ever even attempt to build a military to the size of yours. Canadians would rather have socialized healthcare than a million tanks. Ask anyone of us..... who's not a conservative.

Primus32302
Exactly. We don't need military might to defend ourselves or to attack others because we have to need for it.

COMRADE RAF
hmm, yes I'm a pain in the ass, that's nothing new. For some reason people think I'm the same person as who;d presented in chit chat, and that largely isn't the case. I think that after today, I'll save these such comments for conservative boards, so as not to surprise people.

joanofarch

25th July 2003, 03:56

Whether ot not Voltaire was an anti-semite is quite irrelevant to me using his quote, for I have never exhibited anti-semetic behaviour and feel no need to think that way. I'm not nearly a nazi, although I find is funny to read a righty calling a lefty "nazi". Kind of like the kettle calling the pot black.....

You exhibit anti-semetic behaviour by using his quote.

Felicia

25th July 2003, 04:48

Quote: from joanofarch on 11:56 pm on July 24, 2003
Whether ot not Voltaire was an anti-semite is quite irrelevant to me using his quote, for I have never exhibited anti-semetic behaviour and feel no need to think that way. I'm not nearly a nazi, although I find is funny to read a righty calling a lefty "nazi". Kind of like the kettle calling the pot black.....

You exhibit anti-semetic behaviour by using his quote.

You're really going to need to explain that one, and explain it well. The quote is in NO WAY anti-semetic. It has nothing to do with jewish peoples. Therefore cannot be anti-semetic, think of what you're saying, have you even read the quote? Or just the name if the speaker? It's saing that you don't need big expensive volumes of books to teach you of revolution and ideology, the more condensed, inexpensive ones will do much better and can be carried with you..... I see nothing of anti-semitism there!

(Edited by felicia at 12:53 am on July 25, 2003)

joanofarch

25th July 2003, 05:32

If you sleep with a Nazi, you're a Nazi.
If you're boss is a Nazi and you sleep with his wife, you're a Nazi.
If ....

It's really quite simple.

Felicia

25th July 2003, 05:51

Quote: from joanofarch on 1:32 am on July 25, 2003
If you sleep with a Nazi, you're a Nazi.
If you're boss is a Nazi and you sleep with his wife, you're a Nazi.
If ....

It's really quite simple.

That makes absolute zero sence. Voltaire is dead, I've never slept with him, nor have I slept with his wife if he had one. He can't be a "nazi" because he lived from 1694 - 1778, that was LONG BEFORE HITLER and his nazi party of the 1900's. You don't know anything about Voltaire do you?

joanofarch

25th July 2003, 07:21

Actually, I do.
My prior post was meant to indicate how infectious Nazism is, it was not meant to be taken literally. No, wait...yes, yes it was. If you brush your teeth with a toothbrush after a Nazi has used it, you’re a Nazi. If you ring the Bell on a bus after a Nazi has ringed it, you automatically become a Nazi. If a Moth has suscribed to Nazi ideology, you swallow it...and it flys out two minutes later, you're offically a Nazi. If you pose as a Jewish girl, only because you refuse to sleep with uncircumsized men; you're not only a "concentration tramp," you're a motherfucking NAZI!

runtelldat.

Liberty Lover

25th July 2003, 09:00

CAPITALIST IMPERIAL IS BACK

YAY!!!

FUCK A COMMIE
FUCK A DICTATOR
FUCK FELICIA

VIVE LA USA

notyetacommie

25th July 2003, 09:21

LL, do you still live in Australia? How very unpatriotic of you to say viva la USA:)

You could also add something like "Viva Bush, whose granny collaborated with Nazis" That way, Bush is also a Nazi, is he not? Using joanofarch's logic, he certainly is.

Liberty Lover

25th July 2003, 09:25

LL, do you still live in Australia? How very unpatriotic of you to say viva la USA:)

Considering the USA is about five times more important to Australia's national secruity than our defence forces are, I don't think my comment was unpatriotic.

Liberty Lover

25th July 2003, 09:34

The Soviets had the bottle to actually fight the Nazi's

Raf seems to be forgetting the pact of non-aggression and the fact that Stalin only fought the Nazis because they invaded the USSR and he didn't have a choice.

Comrade Hector

25th July 2003, 09:39

Urban Rubble
I agree with you that we should be getting rid of all nukes. However, North Korea with nuclear weapons keeps their ability to defend themselves against a US attack just as they kept the Soviet Union's ability to defend itself, and Cuba from any US attack. If it were not for the nuclear weapons in North Korea, the USA would've attacked them after the counter-revolution in the USSR. Therefore, all communists should defend North Korea's right to build nuclear weapons. Again, you are right that we should get rid of nukes. But first lets smash capitalism, then we worry about destroying nukes.

CubanFox

25th July 2003, 11:00

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 9:00 am on July 25, 2003

VIVE LA USA

Actually, in French that's Estats-Unis de America. EUA :biggrin:

Liberty Lover

25th July 2003, 11:07

It wasn't very nice of you to block me on msn

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 11:08 am on July 25, 2003)

Felicia

25th July 2003, 12:57

Quote: from joanofarch on 3:21 am on July 25, 2003
Actually, I do.
My prior post was meant to indicate how infectious Nazism is, it was not meant to be taken literally. No, wait...yes, yes it was. If you brush your teeth with a toothbrush after a Nazi has used it, you’re a Nazi. If you ring the Bell on a bus after a Nazi has ringed it, you automatically become a Nazi. If a Moth has suscribed to Nazi ideology, you swallow it...and it flys out two minutes later, you're offically a Nazi. If you pose as a Jewish girl, only because you refuse to sleep with uncircumsized men; you're not only a "concentration tramp," you're a motherfucking NAZI!

runtelldat.

First of all. that's just ridicules. Do you have no return comment about Voltaire? You said youi know about him and you haven't proven it. Or are you going to go on about your ridicules opinions of nazism. Brushing your teeth with the same tooth paste that a nazi has used, doesn't make you a nazi, it doesn't change your ideolgy, you don't even need to know the other person was a nazi. What the hell's wrong with you? Seriously, get some help!

(Edited by felicia at 9:05 am on July 25, 2003)

joanofarch

25th July 2003, 18:42

Hypothetically, let’s suppose all I knew about him was that he was a belligerent anti-Semite. Would this limited amount of knowledge not be enough to condemn him altogether? Did you not know about his racist reputation? If you did, regardless of how clever or cynical you find him to be, why would you still chose to advocate him? I am rather familiar with him, though I don’t see the purpose of proving it; as this is the internet and it’s not hard to run a search on goggle to find out about people.

Those who can make you believe absurdities
can make you commit atrocities.
—Voltaire
(adapted by Hitler.)

(Edited by joanofarch at 6:49 pm on July 25, 2003)

Bianconero

25th July 2003, 19:31

"Raf seems to be forgetting the pact of non-aggression and the fact that Stalin only fought the Nazis because they invaded the USSR and he didn't have a choice."

Sure thing cowboy.

Actually, the picture of imperialist powers ripping off Nazi heads and national'socialist' pricks eating imperialist children looks interesting to me. From a Marxist point of view, not attacking Hitler wasn't a bad choice at all.

Sabocat

25th July 2003, 20:06

Quote: from joanofarch on 1:42 pm on July 25, 2003
Hypothetically, let’s suppose all I knew about him was that he was a belligerent anti-Semite. Would this limited amount of knowledge not be enough to condemn him altogether? Did you not know about his racist reputation? If you did, regardless of how clever or cynical you find him to be, why would you still chose to advocate him? I am rather familiar with him, though I don’t see the purpose of proving it; as this is the internet and it’s not hard to run a search on goggle to find out about people.

Those who can make you believe absurdities
can make you commit atrocities.
—Voltaire
(adapted by Hitler.)

(Edited by joanofarch at 6:49 pm on July 25, 2003)

The composer Richard Wagner was also widely known to be "madly anti-semetic". He was also a brilliant composer. Listening to Wagner and appreciating his brilliance is hardly the same thing as being a Nazi.

joanofarch

25th July 2003, 21:17

He was also one of Hitler's greatest influences. Where is this leading? What's next? "Hitler was also brilliant and should be admired by all, despite trying to wipe-out an entire people?" You nazi rat bastards sicken me and should be banned.

(Edited by joanofarch at 9:20 pm on July 25, 2003)

Sabocat

25th July 2003, 21:24

No, the point is that listening to Wagner or reading Voltaire, does not make you a Nazi you simple fuck. I've read Ayn Rand, and other conservative hacks doesn't make me a conservative. Reading a book about Charles Manson doesn't make me a serial killer. Reading a book about Charles Lindberg doesn't make me a fucking pilot.

Jerkoff.

Felicia

25th July 2003, 22:18

Quote: from joanofarch on 2:42 pm on July 25, 2003
Hypothetically, let’s suppose all I knew about him was that he was a belligerent anti-Semite. Would this limited amount of knowledge not be enough to condemn him altogether? Did you not know about his racist reputation? If you did, regardless of how clever or cynical you find him to be, why would you still chose to advocate him? I am rather familiar with him, though I don’t see the purpose of proving it; as this is the internet and it’s not hard to run a search on goggle to find out about people.

Those who can make you believe absurdities
can make you commit atrocities.
—Voltaire
(adapted by Hitler.)

Voltaire was a great philosopher during the French enlightenment. His works weren't "blatent anti-semitism" like you've said, sure there may have been small bits of it there, but he was in no way comparable to hitler.

That quote is true, hitler made you believe in lies and look what happened? ("the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it" ) Just because Voltaire was intelligent enough to point out that fact doesn't mean he caused the halocaust, which to seem to be on the verge of what you seem to be about to claim.

You're a schauvenistic male, and I'm talking to you, I'm still a mild feminist, not chauvenistic. So now I must think that women are only good for sex? No, but that's what you think. So explain to me why I'm not a conservative piece of trash? You are, so now every leftist you've spoken to on this board must be just like you now.....

You have absolutely no bases for your silly little accusations.

(Edited by felicia at 7:00 pm on July 25, 2003)

Invader Zim

25th July 2003, 22:54

Quote: from Disgustapated on 9:24 pm on July 25, 2003
No, the point is that listening to Wagner or reading Voltaire, does not make you a Nazi you simple fuck. I've read Ayn Rand, and other conservative hacks doesn't make me a conservative. Reading a book about Charles Manson doesn't make me a serial killer. Reading a book about Charles Lindberg doesn't make me a fucking pilot.

Jerkoff.

OWWW I was going to read Biggles learns to fly... You have destroyed my hopes and dreams. :)

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 01:01

I've read Ayn Rand, and other conservative hacks doesn't make me a conservative.

Obviously I was joking. I find it vexing no one has pointed this out. Of course reading a book by a Nazi doesn’t make you a Nazi.
However, there is a difference between reading and advocating. If you at the end of each of your meaningless posts try to sweeten the pill with a quote by Ayn Rand, I would estimate you were a supporter of Laissez Faire capitalism. Supporting anti-semetism isn't cool.

(Edited by joanofarch at 1:02 am on July 26, 2003)

Felicia

26th July 2003, 01:13

Quote: from joanofarch on 9:01 pm on July 25, 2003
I've read Ayn Rand, and other conservative hacks doesn't make me a conservative.

Obviously I was joking. I find it vexing no one has pointed this out. Of course reading a book by a Nazi doesn’t make you a Nazi.
However, there is a difference between reading and advocating. If you at the end of each of your meaningless posts try to sweeten the pill with a quote by Ayn Rand, I would estimate you were a supporter of Laissez Faire capitalism. Supporting anti-semetism isn't cool.

Sure, if the quote by Ayn that you're using is lassez faire-related quote. Voltaire is more wide ranging than that. The quote I'm using has nothing to do with anti-semitism. Therefore I'm not advocating anti-semitism, I'm advocating the reading of intellectuals of the French Enlightenment.

Felicia

26th July 2003, 01:16

TouCHE, here is a page listing some quotes taken from Voltaire, not one of them exhibits anti-semitism. He feels that it would be neccessary to invent "god" if there wasn't one...... I quote him, but yet I'm not religous so I would never use that specific quote in which he says that. Kapeesh?

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Voltaire

(Edited by felicia at 9:18 pm on July 25, 2003)

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 01:17

I'm advocating the reading of intellectuals of the French Enlightenment.

You fucked up and generalized. The quote has nothing to do with intellectuals of the French enlightenment...any more so than anti-Semitism. So how does it magically advocate one but not the other?

Felicia

26th July 2003, 01:19

Quote: from joanofarch on 9:17 pm on July 25, 2003
I'm advocating the reading of intellectuals of the French Enlightenment.

You fucked up and generalized. The quote has nothing to do with intellectuals of the French enlightenment...any more so than anti-Semitism. So how does it magically advocate one but not the other?

YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT THE QUOTE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANTI-SEMITISM!!!!!

I WIN you hoser.

I didn't say that the quote was advocating the readings of those philisophers, I said that I advocate that!!!

(Edited by felicia at 9:20 pm on July 25, 2003)

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 01:21

Quote: from felicia on 1:16 am on July 26, 2003
TouCHE, here is a page listing some quotes taken from Voltaire, not one of them exhibits anti-semitism.
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Voltaire

I can find you a million quotes by Hitler that don't come close to being anti-semetic....what's your point?

Invader Zim

26th July 2003, 01:25

Tell me Touche, if I were to take a quote from Stalin would that make me a stalinist? Or a quote from Adam Smith would that make me a capitalist? Or a Thomas Madason quote would that make me an experto on the US constitution? The answer is no and obviously the same goes for your stupid attack on felicia.

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 01:27

YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT THE QUOTE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANTI-SEMITISM!!!!!

I WIN you hoser.

I didn't say that the quote was advocating the readings of those philisophers, I said that I advocate that!!!

Die with some dignity.

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 01:30

Quote: from AK47 on 1:25 am on July 26, 2003
Tell me Touche, if I were to take a quote from Stalin would that make me a stalinist? Or a quote from Adam Smith would that make me a capitalist? Or a Thomas Madason quote would that make me an experto on the US constitution? The answer is no and obviously the same goes for your stupid attack on felicia.

It's a double standard. If I used a quote from Hitler, we both know I would be banned by now.

Felicia

26th July 2003, 01:32

Quote: from joanofarch on 9:27 pm on July 25, 2003
YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT THE QUOTE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANTI-SEMITISM!!!!!

I WIN you hoser.

I didn't say that the quote was advocating the readings of those philisophers, I said that I advocate that!!!

Die with some dignity.

Die with dignity? This from the same person who's written all of that shit about how I'm a nazi because I appreciate the philosophical mind of Voltaire?

You have no dignity, I'd be surprised of you had any respect from members of this forum to top it off.

Felicia

26th July 2003, 01:35

Quote: from joanofarch on 9:30 pm on July 25, 2003

Quote: from AK47 on 1:25 am on July 26, 2003
Tell me Touche, if I were to take a quote from Stalin would that make me a stalinist? Or a quote from Adam Smith would that make me a capitalist? Or a Thomas Madason quote would that make me an experto on the US constitution? The answer is no and obviously the same goes for your stupid attack on felicia.

It's a double standard. If I used a quote from Hitler, we both know I would be banned by now.

Depends on what it was. If you said something like "The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it", which I don't think is by Hitler, but a serious nazi none the less. It would be taken differently, yoiu're not saying "kill the jews" you're stating something that's resonable fact. "the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it" is not an anti-semetic quote in itself, it depends on what it's referring to maybe, but not in itself.

Invader Zim

26th July 2003, 01:36

Quote: from joanofarch on 1:30 am on July 26, 2003

Quote: from AK47 on 1:25 am on July 26, 2003
Tell me Touche, if I were to take a quote from Stalin would that make me a stalinist? Or a quote from Adam Smith would that make me a capitalist? Or a Thomas Madason quote would that make me an experto on the US constitution? The answer is no and obviously the same goes for your stupid attack on felicia.

It's a double standard. If I used a quote from Hitler, we both know I would be banned by now.

True, but you seam to be labouring under the foolish impression that I care.

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 01:42

You have no dignity, I'd be surprised of you had any respect from members of this forum to top it off.

Their respect means nothing to me. You know what happens when people like you become dependent upon the approval of others? The second you achieve it, you become content with your lower-levels of ability. That's why you're a socialist/Nazi.....

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 01:48

True, but you seam to be labouring under the foolish impression that I care.

Tell me Touche, if I were to take a quote from Stalin would that make me a stalinist? Or a quote from Adam Smith would that make me a capitalist? Or a Thomas Madason quote would that make me an experto on the US constitution? The answer is no and obviously the same goes for your stupid attack on felicia.

Foolish me! How ever did i get such an impression?
Show me how much you don't care with another worthless argument.

Felicia

26th July 2003, 01:52

Quote: from joanofarch on 9:42 pm on July 25, 2003
You have no dignity, I'd be surprised of you had any respect from members of this forum to top it off.

Their respect means nothing to me. You know what happens when people like you become dependent upon the approval of others? The second you achieve it, you become content with your lower-levels of ability. That's why you're a socialist/Nazi.....

haha, I don't depend on the respect I recieve from others. If I recieve it from people it's because I've either earned it or I deserve it. NOT because I feel I need it. Havin respect from others is important, but you wouldn't know about respect.

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 01:58

Having respect for others is important, but you wouldn't know about that.....you're a NAZI.

(Edited by joanofarch at 1:59 am on July 26, 2003)

Koba Dzhugashvili

26th July 2003, 02:03

Fuck you, you capitalist pig.

Felicia

26th July 2003, 02:08

Quote: from joanofarch on 9:58 pm on July 25, 2003
Having respect for others is important, but you wouldn't know about that.....you're a NAZI.

Well, if YOU had respect for others, you'd get respect in return. Tell me one thing....HOW AM I A NAZI? And be intelligent about it. If anyone here is a nazi It'd be you.

(Edited by felicia at 10:22 pm on July 25, 2003)

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 02:12

ewwwwwwwwww....YUCK! Nazi girl, get tha hell outtah my QUOTE!

Felicia

26th July 2003, 02:24

Quote: from joanofarch on 10:12 pm on July 25, 2003
ewwwwwwwwww....YUCK! Nazi girl, get tha hell outtah my QUOTE!

You moron......what? No reply to what I've said? Just my quoting error? You must really be running low on fuel. Take a nap, and get a lobotomy while you're at it, save me from the hassle of doing it myself......

Urban Rubble

26th July 2003, 02:26

"If you don't think that canadians are much better than you are dilusional. "

Call me dilusional then, nationalist pig.

"If you can say that being "buddy buddy" is high on the canadian governments list..... you obviously know nothing about canada."

You need to pull your head out of your ass and step into reality. Why was Canada in Afghanistan with us ? A favor, to stay on our good side. I'm not trying to defend my government, but if you think other countries, namely Canada, aren't trying to suck up to us then YOU are the one who is dillusional.

"Yes, we love america, especially after the beef ban they've placed on us after just ONE case that showed up several months ago. The problem has been taken care of sonce then, we are loosing hundreds of millions of dollars a day, and it's affecting OUR FARMERS THE MOST!! Quite similar to the time they banned PEI potatoes due to a condition present with the potatoes, problems can always be handled better than to screw over someone elses economy, screning and all of that can always be done. But yet, more countries have chosen to ban our beef"

I've told you before, I understand that my government is fucked up, I'm not defending them. You made a comment about my countries people NOT THE GOVERNMENT. You're trying to turn your generalizing brain farts about American people into a rant on how shitty our government is. I live here, I love my people, I hate my government, you already know this.

"No one does this to the workers of my country and expect me to still like them, or my government to still want to be "buddy buddy""

Oh, I see. So those 2 kids that got the shit beat out of them in Canada were the ones that did that to your country ? So common American people are to blame ? I see.

You're just getting yourself deeper and deeper.

"Most canadians would want nothing more than to be further distanced for your country and it's reputation, but there are some americans blind to our changing sentiment towards them. Canada is not half as bad as the US and you know it too. "

All I have to say to that is NO SHIT. I already know this. You are all over the place in this discussion. I know the average Canadian does not want association with America, we were talking about the GOVERNMENT not the people. You have to understand that there is a difference. Too complicated for you ? Should I slow down ?

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 03:01

With the help of Urban, I will prove my case.

You're a Nationalist.
You're a socialist.

That would make you a national socialist would it not?

Now, what was that clever little German term the national socialists used to describe themselves?

Oh, now i remember...............NAZI!

You are, without question, a nazi.

Felicia

26th July 2003, 03:17

oh please, Urban just has it "in" for me becuase, in a fit of crabbyness, I said that americans are stupid. He's really being quite childish about this.

I'm more provincialist. I sould like to see NS as a separate, socialist country. I'm not a hardcore seperatist, but I can see the benefits as well as the pit falls, so I wouildn't make a move to make it happen.

Both of you need to grow up.

Invader Zim

26th July 2003, 03:26

Quote: from joanofarch on 3:01 am on July 26, 2003

You are, without question, a nazi.

You are, without question, a fool. Go away and troll in some shitty capitalist forum where you belong. This one may be more towards your tastes than che-lives.

www.*************** (http://www.***************)

Felicia

26th July 2003, 03:30

Oh, I see. So those 2 kids that got the shit beat out of them in Canada were the ones that did that to your country ? So common American people are to blame ? I see.

oh, by the way, THEY WEREN'T CHILDREN, it was 2 or 3 adults. The rest of what you've written was just a waste of your time. god, you're just everywhere trying to nag at me. Yo useem to be mixing up threads, bringing things from this thread and yelling about them in that thread...... what's the point? why don't you just start a Felicia-bashing thread and let it all out :angry:

You are just something else.

joanofarch

26th July 2003, 03:49

Quote: from felicia on 3:17 am on July 26, 2003
I'm more provincialist. I sould like to see NS as a separate, socialist country. I'm not a hardcore seperatist, but I can see the benefits as well as the pit falls, so I wouildn't make a move to make it happen.
Both of you need to grow up.

Talk about pitfalls. I understand how provincally biased the canadian federal legislature is, but NS would be doomed to seperate. Quebec couldn't even hack it.

Urban Rubble

26th July 2003, 03:53

First off, when you use your little smiley faces, it makes you seem about 12 years old.

Anyway, seeing as how you won't respond to my post I'll take that as a "I'm sorry for being retarted". You made a stupid, generalizing comment, and you know it.

Felicia

26th July 2003, 12:09

joan
Quebec had a referendum to separate, they needed a majority of support to make the separation.. they only has 48% wanting separation so they didn't separate, clear?

urban rubble
No, I won't admit that I was anything, you want me to respond to your post so you can have something to do with your time. I already responded to you and that should be enough.... BUT sonce you're one of the greedy americans, I'll give you some more to chew on, and THEN you can fuck off.

*Call me dilusional then, nationalist pig. *

Dilusional.

*You need to pull your head out of your ass and step into reality. Why was Canada in Afghanistan with us ? A favor, to stay on our good side. I'm not trying to defend my government, but if you think other countries, namely Canada, aren't trying to suck up to us then YOU are the one who is dillusional. *

canada didn't do that to stay on your good side. Our government felt that it was important to "fight terrorism", especially after the 9-11 attacks where hundreds of canadian's were killed in the towers, oiur government did it because the people wanted to, we wanted to help because we too were injured by the attacks, not everything is about you you know. We didn't help in Iraq, We didn't help in Vietnam, if we don't want to help, we won't help, it's simple.

*I've told you before, I understand that my government is fucked up, I'm not defending them. You made a comment about my countries people NOT THE GOVERNMENT. You're trying to turn your generalizing brain farts about American people into a rant on how shitty our government is. I live here, I love my people, I hate my government, you already know this. *

if you're not defending your government than don't say it's better than mine, clearly mine is the winner (maybe not by much, but it's far better). Obvioiusly SOMEONE in your country votes republican and is responsible for the despot you have in power, you love them too huh? Well, I certainly don't, just like I don't like the canadians that vote conservative.

*Oh, I see. So those 2 kids that got the shit beat out of them in Canada were the ones that did that to your country ? So common American people are to blame ? I see. *

THEY WERE'T KIDS, they were gownups. I didn't say they were responsible, and yoiu alluding to the thought of me thinking that they are is redicules.

*All I have to say to that is NO SHIT. I already know this. You are all over the place in this discussion. I know the average Canadian does not want association with America, we were talking about the GOVERNMENT not the people. You have to understand that there is a difference. Too complicated for you ? Should I slow down ? *

You fool, yes I know there is a difference. It's hard to separate a group of people the do and say what their government tells them, they just might aswell be the government.

*Anyway, seeing as how you won't respond to my post I'll take that as a "I'm sorry for being retarted". You made a stupid, generalizing comment, and you know it.*
And there you go using the word "retarded", You need to learn some manners, when you're trying to insult someone, you don't bring up a whole section if the world for being "mentally challenged", pig.

26th July 2003, 16:05

Hello. Good to see the arguments are still flourishing.

I've been away for quite a long time and just checking in. Thought I'd add a few comments as well.

While I am a leftist liberal, I can not agree with felicia's statements about the deaths of Americans. Felicia, I'm dissappointed--that was a stupid thing to say. You can not blame American soldiers for doing their job as commanded by George and Co.

Whoever said Canada would be fine without the US is out of line. Canada bows to the US in almost every respect and relies on the southern brother for support and protection. Who else would protect Canada? England?

I'm sorry to sound like such a conservative piece of trash but really anti-american statements are plain wrong. America needs drastic changes and the radical right is trying to ruin the country.

Anyway, just a few thoughts from the margins.

j

Urban Rubble

26th July 2003, 18:31

"Our government felt that it was important to "fight terrorism", especially after the 9-11 attacks where hundreds of canadian's were killed in the towers, oiur government did it because the people wanted to, we wanted to help because we too were injured by the attacks, not everything is about you you know. "

So you're saying that the reason your government was in Afghanistan was because a few Canadians died, not to help us out ? Are you really that fucking stupid ? I find it hard to believe someone could be so misled.

And also, since you are so gung ho about your Capitalist government, can I also assume that you supported the Afghanisan campaign ? Your true colors are really showing in this arguement, not only are you a nationalist, you're a liberal too.

"if you're not defending your government than don't say it's better than mine, clearly mine is the winner"

I never said that my government was "better", I said they are both horrible.

"(maybe not by much, but it's far better). "

If it's not by much then how can it be "far better" ? God you're fucking stupid. But go ahead, skip this part where I showed one of your little barin farts in your next post.

"Obvioiusly SOMEONE in your country votes republican and is responsible for the despot you have in power, you love them too huh?"

Yes, my mom votes conservative, and yes, I still love her. You see, I'm not in the practice of hating someone just because they aren't as politically aware as me, I would rather try to change their mind so we can have a new ally. You however, would rather just write them off as idiots as shout "Fuck America". Oh well, that's what trendy commies like yourself do, real socialists try to change their minds.

"THEY WERE'T KIDS, they were gownups. I didn't say they were responsible, and yoiu alluding to the thought of me thinking that they are is redicules. "

Oh, they WERE'T kids ? They were gownups ?

I thought they were in their early 20's, I neveer alluded to you thinking they were kids, clearly I was the one that thought they were kids.

And the word is ridiculous. If Americans are so stupid, why do I keep pointing out blatant spelling, grammar and sometimes geogrphical mistakes in your posts ? Stupid Canadian.

"And there you go using the word "retarded", You need to learn some manners, when you're trying to insult someone, you don't bring up a whole section if the world for being "mentally challenged", pig. "

HAHAHAHA. Sorry, I'm not quite a militantly PC as you, I could care less about using the word retarted. My cousin is "metally chalenged". I didn't "bring up a whole section of the world", you did. I just said retarted. And yes, you are "mentally challenged".

What I think is funny is that you can generalize my country and it's 200 million (oh sorry, 300) people, but you get pissed when I say retard. Your stupidity is blinding.

Felicia

26th July 2003, 22:19

*So you're saying that the reason your government was in Afghanistan was because a few Canadians died, not to help us out ? Are you really that fucking stupid ? I find it hard to believe someone could be so misled.
*

You're not reading what I'm saying. Did you comepletely pass over the line "our government did it because the people wanted to"? Sure they did it to help out because they belived that it was a just war.

*And also, since you are so gung ho about your Capitalist government, can I also assume that you supported the Afghanisan campaign ? Your true colors are really showing in this arguement, not only are you a nationalist, you're a liberal too.*

I personally didn't care too much, but for the record, I don't support american domination over the middleast, which is EXACTLY what it's starting to look like....... the majority of canadians wanted to help with afghanistan, and so did our government.

*I never said that my government was "better", I said they are both horrible.*

There is no possible way that Canada is just as horrible, they aren' even on the same playing fiend asfar as the US's medeling behaviour. If it's so, in your opinion, than it's because we've had american lackey's like Mulroney in power who are more conservative than liberal. Trudeau wasn't one of your lackies.

*"(maybe not by much, but it's far better). "

If it's not by much then how can it be "far better" ? God you're fucking stupid. But go ahead, skip this part where I showed one of your little barin farts in your next post.

"Obvioiusly SOMEONE in your country votes republican and is responsible for the despot you have in power, you love them too huh?"

Yes, my mom votes conservative, and yes, I still love her. You see, I'm not in the practice of hating someone just because they aren't as politically aware as me, I would rather try to change their mind so we can have a new ally. You however, would rather just write them off as idiots as shout "Fuck America". Oh well, that's what trendy commies like yourself do, real socialists try to change their minds.*

You may not think it's much better, but there's a reason why we weren't the 9/11 target, think about it.
You have some serious superiority issues. YOU (aswell as I ) are involved in ridiculOUs arguements and you refer to my side as "brain farts" when the arguements that you're trying to put up are of the same quality. HOW MANY times have I tried to stop these petty fights and YOU insist on keepint them going? HOW MANY time have I told you to leave me alone? HOW MANY have I said that this is all stupid and I don't want to argue with an ass like you? But you always manage to throw in some stupid comment when I'm trying to be mature and end this fight, you accuse me of accepting defeat and call me "retarded", when I haven't accepted defeat in any way.

*Oh, they WERE'T kids ? They were gownups ?

I thought they were in their early 20's, I neveer alluded to you thinking they were kids, clearly I was the one that thought they were kids.

And the word is ridiculous. If Americans are so stupid, why do I keep pointing out blatant spelling, grammar and sometimes geogrphical mistakes in your posts ? Stupid Canadian. *

You didn't point out the "geographical" mistake, many people pointed it out many times before you did, stop think that yoiu're so clever for that one, you arn't.
When ever I make a spelling mistake you dwell on the spelling errors instead of the content of the remark. If yoiu don't have anytihng to say, than don't say it. So I don't always have the time to spell check everything, grow up, you aren't in grade school anymore.

*HAHAHAHA. Sorry, I'm not quite a militantly PC as you, I could care less about using the word retarted. My cousin is "metally chalenged". I didn't "bring up a whole section of the world", you did. I just said retarted. And yes, you are "mentally challenged".

What I think is funny is that you can generalize my country and it's 200 million (oh sorry, 300) people, but you get pissed when I say retard. Your stupidity is blinding. *

I'm not even going to bother, it's obvious that your stupidity is cripling the blood flow to your brain.

J

*While I am a leftist liberal, I can not agree with felicia's statements about the deaths of Americans. Felicia, I'm dissappointed--that was a stupid thing to say. You can not blame American soldiers for doing their job as commanded by George and Co.
*

I agree with you to a small extent. They made the choice to defend a cruel govenment and they're getting killed for an unjust war. They orignally made the choice, most probably don't know of the crimes committed by their government and CIA, etc. They should educate themselves on that first, but most would still see the US actions as justifiable, that's sad.

Urban Rubble

27th July 2003, 00:27

"the majority of canadians wanted to help with afghanistan, and so did our government. "

O.K, read very carefully here, this is where I will destroy your whole arguement. You have said that most Americans are stupid because they support our Imperialist government, yet you don't think Canadians are stupid if they support the campaign in Afghanistan. That's some hypocritical shit right there. Yes, we are dominating the Middle East, it's sick and I think it should stop.

"HOW MANY times have I tried to stop these petty fights and YOU insist on keepint them going?"

You haven't tried to stop them, you've said we should end it, but then you make another comment about my countrymen being stupid.

"When ever I make a spelling mistake you dwell on the spelling errors instead of the content of the remark."

No, I bring them out because I know that if I was the one misspelling basic words, and making words up, that you would use it as evidence of American stupidity.

Felicia

27th July 2003, 01:43

*O.K, read very carefully here, this is where I will destroy your whole arguement. You have said that most Americans are stupid because they support our Imperialist government, yet you don't think Canadians are stupid if they support the campaign in Afghanistan. That's some hypocritical shit right there. Yes, we are dominating the Middle East, it's sick and I think it should stop.*

You really don't get it, destroy my argument? All I see is a kid who keeps saying the same things over and over, thinking that he's gaining new ground on a point that he's not getting to. Canadians want a peaceful society, ouir government has even advocated that we embrace aspects of Islam for a more peaceful and harmonious existence. We don't support terrorism, this wasn't an anonymous attack on another country for unspecified reasons and greed, that's where bin laden was hiding, so that's where the militaries went to find him. I don't support the imperialist qualities of the invasion, but canadians aren't controlling afghanistan, nor did we choose the present leader, that was the US.

*You haven't tried to stop them, you've said we should end it, but then you make another comment about my countrymen being stupid.*

Well just stop it then! I don't keep saying it, you just keep *****ing about it. Like now, we're supposedly arguing about my "stupid americans" comment but barely 5% of these arguments are about that topic. You just want to have a go at me so you can feel superior, well if yoiu feel that way it's because it's in your own mind.

*No, I bring them out because I know that if I was the one misspelling basic words, and making words up, that you would use it as evidence of American stupidity.*

No I wouldn't because I know that I make spelling errors aswell, I'm not rude enough to to pick at people because of minor spelling errors, as for "broughten", the word I made up.... look at other times I've spelled the word "brought" and it's correct (there's an example in the stalinists thread i nthe CC that I'm sure was posted before "broughten" )
So grow up and lay off the spelling!

I'M NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS ANYMORE, IT'S REDICUL[b]OU[b]S AND CHILDISH. IF YOU PROCEDE THIS REQUEST WITH MORE ENTICING I WILL LOCK THIS THREAD!!!! just stop your stupid argument, I know that you have a superiority complex so you will, again, respond with more remarks to get me to post, again I say to you, "get over yourself".

:angry:

Liberty Lover

27th July 2003, 04:39

I'M NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS ANYMORE, IT'S REDICUL[b]OU[b]S AND CHILDISH. IF YOU PROCEDE THIS REQUEST WITH MORE ENTICING I WILL LOCK THIS THREAD!!!! just stop your stupid argument, I know that you have a superiority complex so you will, again, respond with more remarks to get me to post, again I say to you, "get over yourself".

:angry:

What a *****.

Ex Nihilo

27th July 2003, 04:48

Fuck this shit.

Felicia

27th July 2003, 14:18

liberty lover, ex nihilo.

I haven't locked the thread, keep posting amongst yourselves, I'm not going to lock it either if it's that upsetting for you.

have fun.

Urban Rubble

27th July 2003, 20:16

Yes Felicia, lock the thread, that would be mature, so you can't back up any of your arguments, so you lock the thread, I see how you work.

Why can't you just admit that you are generalizing ? I can't believe you are stupid enough to actually think that Americans are stupid. Look at our society, look at our technology, was this all done by stupid people ? We agree that our government is the most powerful in the world, yes, they got that way through disgusting sick tactics, but you cannot say this was all done by stupid people. Well, I guess you can say that, but it really shows your stupidity.

"Canadians want a peaceful society, ouir government has even advocated that we embrace aspects of Islam for a more peaceful and harmonious existence."

If that doesn't say "Hey Muslims, vote for me", then I don't know what does.

"I don't support the imperialist qualities of the invasion, but canadians aren't controlling afghanistan, nor did we choose the present leader, that was the US. "

What do you expect when you follow the U.S into a war ? Of course it's Imperialist, it's the fucking U.S. By your logic I could say that Canadians are dumb for wanting to go into war with us, but again, I don't because I'm not a generalizing idiot, like yourself.

Felicia

27th July 2003, 20:30

you really need to grow up.

I backing myself up just fine, you're just stupid in thinking that you're making any kind of leadway. Which you seem to think.

I didn't say that I wasn't generalizing, get over it. He generalized against canadians, I don't see you screwing with him over his remark. I think your conservatives are stupid, that will never change. Big deal, grow up, your techonological accomplishements seem to make yoiu think you're smart. Oh yeah, real smart developing a nuclear weapon, way to go stupid america.

*rolls eyes*

What's even more stupid is that you seem to think you're putting up some kind of "intelligent" arguement against me, when all that your doing is making a fool of yourself.

youi keep saying that yoiu're not a "generalizing idiot" but yeat in both threads here so say something similar to "If I was going to generalize I would say..*insert canadian generalization here*, oh, but I don't generalize so I'm not going to say that" ... but youi say it you moron, you think you're making some point when you're obviously not.

Urban Rubble

28th July 2003, 15:49

"He generalized against canadians, I don't see you screwing with him over his remark."

I'm not *****ing at him because I would expect it from him. I wouldn't expect someone who calls themself a leftist to be so fucking stupid.

"Oh yeah, real smart developing a nuclear weapon, way to go stupid america. "

If you think a stupid man invented the bomb then you are stupider than I thought.

"you think you're making some point when you're obviously not."

My point is that you're an idiot, I think I've conveyed that just fine.

Urban Rubble

28th July 2003, 16:19

So you are just going to ignore the fact that you made a completely unfounded comment about me wanting to argue with women ?

Once again, you tried to turn this into a sexist thing even though I made no comment to make you think that whatsoever.

God you're dumb.

Felicia

28th July 2003, 16:50

what? You're just going to ignore the fact that you just said that you think you're winning, when you said that it wasn't about winning?

:biggrin:

Felicia

28th July 2003, 18:18

You haven't conveyed anything at all, but that you need to feel superior when arguing with women.
No, an intelligent man came up with the concept for the atom weapon, it was the stpid americans who developed it and used it. The man who shared the concept with the US, REGRETED IT!!!!!!

Go leave me alone, you annoying piece of crap

Urban Rubble

29th July 2003, 02:18

" You haven't conveyed anything at all, but that you need to feel superior when arguing with women. "

Ahhh, there it is. I was waiting for you to turn this into a sexist thing. Common debate tactic of an idiot who knows they've lost, try to attack the other person for something COMPLETELY unfounded. You're sad, seriously.

Invader Zim

29th July 2003, 02:24

Quote: from Urban Rubble on 3:49 pm on July 28, 2003
"He generalized against canadians, I don't see you screwing with him over his remark."

I'm not *****ing at him because I would expect it from him. I wouldn't expect someone who calls themself a leftist to be so fucking stupid.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend... I believe that is a little more accurate.

Felicia

29th July 2003, 02:37

Quote: from Urban Rubble on 10:18 pm on July 28, 2003
" You haven't conveyed anything at all, but that you need to feel superior when arguing with women. "

Ahhh, there it is. I was waiting for you to turn this into a sexist thing. Common debate tactic of an idiot who knows they've lost, try to attack the other person for something COMPLETELY unfounded. You're sad, seriously.

hahaha, "lost"? I do believe that you've said that this wasn't about winning? Someone doesn't seem to know what he means. I haven't "lost" anything, except wasted time on you.

Urban Rubble

29th July 2003, 23:17

Godamn Felicia, how did you manage to miss such a simple point ?

You said I enjoy arguing with women, implying that I was a sexist. That comment was totally unfounded, I have never said anything of the sort. You made that up because you had nothing better to argue, I find that funny.

While we are making things up I'll call you a murderer. Murderer.

Ex Nihilo

29th July 2003, 23:35

Murderer!

(Edited by Ex Nihilo at 11:36 pm on July 29, 2003)

Felicia

30th July 2003, 21:32

urban
No, I didn't say you enjoyed arguing with me because I'm a woman. I said that you feel a need to "win" this argument because you're male and I'm female, raised by society to feel superior to females for what ever reason, and can't lose to one...

whatever you want to think.

ex nihilo
COMMUNIST!

Ex Nihilo

30th July 2003, 21:39

That was just low.

You know I was joking.

Urban Rubble

30th July 2003, 21:48

Whatever, my point was that you made a completely unfounded remark. What in the fuck would lead you to believe this has anything to do with you being a woman ? Seriously, I don't get it. I have not made ONE comment about your sex. I guess it just goes to show that you will make things up to try and make me look stupid.

Once again, why would you think this has ANYTHING to do with your gender ? Society ? Well, I live in a Capitalist society and I've rejected that, what makes you think that I would be a sexist simply because of the society that I live in ?

What a fucking stupid comment to make.

Felicia

30th July 2003, 22:21

ex nihilo
I know you were joking, that's why I didn't call you a lackey instead :lol:

urban
hey, if you think that you've been reprogrammed away from society's conditioning, who am I to argue? I can only point out what I'm seeing..... but you can't deny that that's how society works

Urban Rubble

31st July 2003, 01:33

" I can only point out what I'm seeing"

What are you talking about ? What are you seeing ? What in the FUCK would make you think that I'm trying to "dominate" you because you are a woman ? Do you think every man that disagrees with you is doing it because he wants to feel dominant ?

Also, you keep talking about how "society" "programs" people, are you trying to imply that everyone is sexist ? Or is that just men ? Perhaps it's just American men.

You just keep getting funnier and funnier. I also like how when I said I was ending the talk in the other post you STILL replied. Sounds like you really wanted to end this. I won't be the immature one and reply to that, I'll let it die, obviously you aren't going to.

Dark Capitalist

31st July 2003, 02:17

Test

Felicia

31st July 2003, 03:00

What are you talking about ? What are you seeing ? What in the FUCK would make you think that I'm trying to "dominate" you because you are a woman ? Do you think every man that disagrees with you is doing it because he wants to feel dominant ?

I've never used the word "dominate". I'm mearly pointing out how men are bred by society to belive they are stronger than women, and maybe you just can't give up against one.

Also, you keep talking about how "society" "programs" people, are you trying to imply that everyone is sexist ? Or is that just men ? Perhaps it's just American men.

No, I didn't say sexist. Not everyone is, not everyone has a problem with some things that the average man seems too.

You just keep getting funnier and funnier. I also like how when I said I was ending the talk in the other post you STILL replied. Sounds like you really wanted to end this. I won't be the immature one and reply to that, I'll let it die, obviously you aren't going to.

Well, while I'm getting "funnier and funnier" you're seeming dumber and dumber. HELLO? Isn't that exactly what I've been saying to you ALL along? "this is all stupid" "lets just stop all together" "this argument is futile".

this is just deja vu for me, you can't listen when I say it, but when you come around, that's when it has to go your way, that's just what I was saying about the male being incharge. oh well.

whatever, I'm through with this.

Au Revoir.