Liberals......

[Flabbergast]

I once saw a bumper stick that read "Liberals fear opposing viewpoints" You know I always see and read things about how the left is like the cancer of the country. Then I read things how the right with kill this country. Just my two cents

[Ghost Writer]

Not very thought provoking. Bumper sticker politics is for retards. Both sides of the aisle must be watched carefully. However, I believe one side is a greater threat a this particular time. If I perceived the threat to be coming from the other side, I would be challenging them with the same gusto. Which end of the spectrum do you believe represent the greater danger, Flabbergasted? To me the answer is clear.

[Flabbergast]

Well at diffrent times theres probably a party that has a better solution to the problem. Take everything that has happen since 9/11... I dont think Bush is the greatest pres. of all time and is probably on the lower half, but I do think he is a better choice then Al Gore or any liberal for that matter. Now if the problem you are talking about is the war with Iraq I never really listen to Bush, but I did believe Powell for a number of reasons,for one if you think about it....this guy has been to war before(a grunt in Vietnam) So I believe he has the best intrests of the people on both sides when he supports the war.

[Elect Marx]

Flabbergast, I would have agreed with you about Powell but he has done a complete 180 degree turn. He was opposing the war and then just started selling it. At the time, I was not sure about Al Gore VS Bush but now I am. I would say Bush is amongst the worst candidates to ever occupy the presidential office. As far as parties go in the US, Dem's and Repubs are bad and worse. Our choices should be better than far right or facsist candidates. I do agree with Ghost Writer, in that I also "believe one side is a greater threat a[t] this particular time." To those who tell you such lies as you mentioned, I would ask "does cancer advance the cause of human rights?" Also, the right has a habit of starting unjust wars and constructing dictatorships, will this kill the country? Time will tell.

[Sabocat]

From Flabergast:

I did believe Powell for a number of reasons,for one if you think about it....this guy has been to war before(a grunt in Vietnam) So I believe he has the best intrests of the people on both sides when he supports the war

Colon Powell was involved with the My Lai massacre cover- up . He is and always has been a scumbag.


http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/13/news-ireland.php

Info about My Lai:

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/mylai.htm




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[Felicia]

Quote: from Ghost Writer on 8:15 am on July 23, 2003
Not very thought provoking. Bumper sticker politics is for retards. Both sides of the aisle must be watched carefully. However, I believe one side is a greater threat a this particular time. If I perceived the threat to be coming from the other side, I would be challenging them with the same gusto. Which end of the spectrum do you believe represent the greater danger, Flabbergasted? To me the answer is clear.

No, both sides view each other as threatening. So of course you would see our side as the greater threat.... and rightfully so ;)

[Morpheus]

Liberals are imperialist scum. They got us in Vietnam, Korea, the Bay of Pigs, etc.

[Sensitive]

I hate all capitalists (conservatives and liberals) and I hate all capitalist political parties (Republicans and Democrats).

[Liberty Lover]

Colon Powell was involved with the My Lai massacre cover- up . He is and always has been a scumbag.

A scumbag indeed. His role in the cease-fire that followed the first Gulf War was despicable. I'm glad that George Jr. is moving away from his dad's tendency to listen to the State Department over Defence. It was what made Bush Sr. more like a Democrat than any GOP president in history.

[Exploited Class]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 9:12 am on July 25, 2003

Colon Powell was involved with the My Lai massacre cover- up . He is and always has been a scumbag.

A scumbag indeed. His role in the cease-fire that followed the first Gulf War was despicable. I'm glad that George Jr. is moving away from his dad's tendency to listen to the State Department over Defence. It was what made Bush Sr. more like a Democrat than any GOP president in history.

Really, because I would have thought it would have been him calling the trickle down theory, "Voodoo Economics" when he raced against Reagan for GOP canidicy in '79.

Or did that just make him a hypocrit once he joined with Reagan and backed that economic theory?

[Flabbergast]

hey sensitive how come you hate capitalists?

[Elect Marx]

I also hate capitalism. What is there to like? The pursiut of profit (theft from the working class) over the welfare of the people or the fact that capitalism leads to corporate domination as stated by the dictator himself,
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power." (Benito Mussolini)

[CubanFox]

Liberals suck.

Socialists rule.

[Flabbergast]

I find that people Ive witnessed...obviously I cant judge the two who have posted their hatred over capitolism. but people who i have met seem to be "slackers" and "outcasts" I mean the whole idea of capitolism is that anyone can come from nothing and make it. Take the U.S. for example....with free public education... a kid that lives in the ghetto can go from his one bedroom house with his single mom... to the penthouse downtown. I do understand that is rare,but that is the individuals choice, not anyone elses. I do believe there are people "born" into these high power posistions from there fathers money. Which i do think is unfair,but life is unfair. So either your with it, or your not. And if your not your a bump in the road

[Elect Marx]

Flabbergast,
"free public education," is not enough to get any decent job. "but that is the individuals choice, not anyone elses," this is called meritocracy = you get what you deserve. Do you really think people that are starving are lazy? Meritocracy = Bullshit. "life is unfair," is a phrase used to justify taking "profit" away from workers. Maybe someone who is not a true radical is lazy and just *****es but I intent to do something. I talk to people and build community. Unlike the capitaists on this site that only care about money and pissing off communists. How many wealth capitalists are just sitting on their asses now, doing no work, yet making money? Is this what you call justice?

[Moskitto]

Quote: from Ghost Writer on 8:15 am on July 23, 2003
Not very thought provoking. Bumper sticker politics is for retards. Both sides of the aisle must be watched carefully. However, I believe one side is a greater threat a this particular time. If I perceived the threat to be coming from the other side, I would be challenging them with the same gusto. Which end of the spectrum do you believe represent the greater danger, Flabbergasted? To me the answer is clear.


I think you need a healthy, moderate right and left wing in every country otherwise extremists suck people into their ideas which leads to civil wars or dictatorships.

[Elect Marx]

I disagree, the right wing is the refuge of fascism and naturaly supports inhumain practices. There is no danger from anyone truly supporting the left. Human rights and a fair society will not cause extremism. This is an aspect of the right wing and other influances on the left.

[Moskitto]

But if the moderate right wing isn't healthy, people who are naturally inclined towards the right wing find a home in extreme right parties who then have more man power to draw people who do not have a set political affiliation yet, this could have happened had Kenneth Clarke had taken british conservative party leadership. A moderate right wing would draw people from the right wing into a much less dangerous political group and leaving less man power for the extreme right.

[Elect Marx]

Moskitto, you make a good point. I suppose I had taken for granted the existance of the right. I think if we had a healthy society, we would not need such a dispicable thing but as it is this would help to deal with problems. Just as a communist state in the Marxist model, I think the right wing would become unneccisary in a communo-anarchist system.

[Ghost Writer]

I think you need a healthy, moderate right and left wing in every country otherwise extremists suck people into their ideas which leads to civil wars or dictatorships.

I agree Moskitto. Too bad leftwing poltics has been usurped by the extremists in my country. I fear that we are seeing the death of the Democratic Party. Hopefully, a new party emerges that is more representative of the moderate liberal.

[Elect Marx]

What the heck is a "moderate liberal?" seems redundat. I could be wrong...

[Dark Capitalist]

A liberal that's not too far from the left, and not too far from the right.

[kidicarus20]

Liberals are generally the open minded policy. They they the right is a "little bit extreme' and that communism is a "good idea, but doesn't work in practice."

They are too open minded in my opinion and they don't hate like the right does. Hate is bad, dislike of fascist policies isn't.

Generally liberals support more freedom than republicans though, such as across the board regulation instead of corporate favortism, and they are better in social issues.

Republicans are jsut bad, some democrats are all right.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 09:22 AM
Liberals are generally the open minded policy. They they the right is a "little bit extreme' and that communism is a "good idea, but doesn't work in practice."

They are too open minded in my opinion and they don't hate like the right does. Hate is bad, dislike of fascist policies isn't.

Generally liberals support more freedom than republicans though, such as across the board regulation instead of corporate favortism, and they are better in social issues.

Republicans are jsut bad, some democrats are all right.
I agree for the most part but I would replace "They are too open minded in my opinion," with, "They fail to use class analysis," which is why so many liberals have also failed to condem capitalism :(

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by Dark [email protected] 31 2003, 07:03 AM
A liberal that's not too far from the left, and not too far from the right.
Dark Capitalist, congratats! you've just defined a centrist. I think liberals are a little to the left of centrism and maybe a moderate one is to the right of that? Oh well, they are all liberals. It just matters if they can understand why capitalism sucks.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2003, 02:10 PM

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 9:12 am on July 25, 2003

Colon Powell was involved with the My Lai massacre cover- up . He is and always has been a scumbag.

A scumbag indeed. His role in the cease-fire that followed the first Gulf War was despicable. I'm glad that George Jr. is moving away from his dad's tendency to listen to the State Department over Defence. It was what made Bush Sr. more like a Democrat than any GOP president in history.

Really, because I would have thought it would have been him calling the trickle down theory, "Voodoo Economics" when he raced against Reagan for GOP canidicy in '79.

Or did that just make him a hypocrit once he joined with Reagan and backed that economic theory?
I had a feeling comrade Exploited Class that no one would respond to this post. The one thing republicans love to to is ignore facts. Trickle down economics carried out by the Reagan-Bush administarion as well as the Bush-Quayle administration almost crippled the US economy. I was absolutely delighted! I though for sure these three imbeciles were going to crush capitalism. Unfortunately Clinton (capitalist prick as he is) had some very good capitalist economic policies that saved the capitalist house of cards for crumbling.(fucking bastard)


It is good to see the the Chimp Jr.s economic policies have done twice the damage to the capitalist economy in 3 years where it took Reagan and his camp 12 years.

I love that silly shaved chimp dubya!! Another term from this turkey and revolution won't even be necessary as capitalism will enevitably fall within the next 15 years!!

Hooray for Dubya!! So dim that he does not even realise he is a better communist that all of us! He is single handedly is destroying capitalism!


EDIT:

Powell is a useless uncle-Tom that actually supports a political platform where he is on the list of "most hated races in the USA". I would venture so far to say that blacks are actually atop that list. What an idiot.