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LOLseph Stalin
4th December 2008, 06:36
I just thought I would rant about how disgusting people in my school are. Today I was hanging out with a friend and her group of friends. We sat down and then I overheard another conversation. It was some Capitalist Pig girl bragging about how her friend's dad has a business running in China and how he makes millions while paying the workers ten cents a day(it might have been ten cents an hour. I don't really remember). Even the people who were listening to this girl didn't seem to like this much. One of them said: "So you support that? They could be little children." It was the Capitalist pig's response to that part that made me want to punch somebody in the face(most likely her), she said "Well they don't know the difference." I was absolutely disgusted. I actually got up and walked away, abandoning my friend.

Anyway, that Capitalist Pig's response is basically saying "it's ok to exploit people in third world countries because they don't know the difference between having wealth and not having it."

angus_mor
4th December 2008, 07:45
Man, if I were you, I would've slapped that ***** and told her that she is the evil that plagues this earth. That she's a pathetic, sickening little worm who takes pleasure in human suffering. That she is truly unlovable, for she can't possibly love herself when she glowingly brags about how she lives so well when you violently oppress children in impoverished conditions. AHHH! That's so fucking INFURIATING!!!

JimmyJazz
4th December 2008, 07:57
What a Capitalist Piglet.

I stopped talking politics with people, especially liberals, about a month ago. It just wasn't good for my stress level. Especially since I usually try to internalize my annoyance at all the bullshit they are saying. I can still hold a conversation with some of the more intelligent small-l libertarians though, because at least some of them do look at the big picture.

I think it's good to remember that the problem is not people like this girl (who is not really a capitalist, btw), but people like her friend's dad (who, if what she's saying is true, actually is a capitalist).

spice756
4th December 2008, 09:14
Why are you surprise ? She comes from dad who has a business running in China making lots of money.

Or just walk into a rich area of your city dress very poor and talk to people and you will see snobbish people how they look at you.

synthesis
4th December 2008, 13:08
Sometimes all you can do is laugh. You can't really change the mind of someone like that, because not only did they grow up with an ideology but they benefit from it personally. The other night I tried to have a discussion with a guy spewing off some BS about how Hugo Chavez came to power in a coup and couldn't be convinced otherwise.

This dragged on for awhile (the alcohol didn't help) until I told him that we should wager $50 that he was wrong and tried to get him to shake on it. Of course, then I was stuck trying to explain the context of Hugo's coup attempt in the early 90's, but drunk Republicans don't really want to hear about neo-liberal governments violently suppressing urban revolts.

Weed helps.


Man, if I were you, I would've slapped that ***** and told her that she is the evil that plagues this earth.

Yes, that certainly would have been the most productive way to address the problem.

Bilan
4th December 2008, 14:10
She's been brought up in a family who supports that. Don't be surprised.

Dejavu
4th December 2008, 16:46
This sounds made up but not impossible.

Killfacer
4th December 2008, 16:46
Should have blown her head of with a twelve gauge shotgun and nailed her head to your front door.

Dejavu
4th December 2008, 16:48
Are you saying people should own guns?

Killfacer
4th December 2008, 16:55
Are you saying people should own guns?

No, only that people should illegaly acquire them in order to kill children. Obvious i thought.

Dejavu
4th December 2008, 17:23
But if they legally acquire them to murder children ( like troops) then its ok?

Dejavu
4th December 2008, 17:23
And you wanted to blow her head off. LOL

Killfacer
4th December 2008, 17:28
No, the legal acquisition of fire arms is wrong as it allows violent people to get hold of them. The illegal acquisition of fire arms is fine, but only if they are then used to blow chunks out of little children.

Bud Struggle
4th December 2008, 17:57
You realize that the REAL criminal here is the Chinese Government. They LET their people be explioted by anyone who comes anone with a fast buck. That's why we have governments--to protect people. If this one businessman does this--than it must no doubt a STANDARD practice of the centural government.

The Chinese Communists are at fault much more than some idiot businessman.

Mao must be turning over in his grave. :(

Invincible Summer
4th December 2008, 19:23
I saw a documentary on TV about Wal-Mart (not as scathing as I hoped, but it was on NBC or something so I guess I shouldn't have expected much...) and there was a Wal-Mart built right across from a square with a tall statue of Mao facing it.


It made me sad. Not that I totally support Maoism, but still, it was a stark juxtaposition of how China's really changed.

Bud Struggle
4th December 2008, 19:32
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2188/2042161021_91eee57610.jpg?v=0

This picture shows the state of Communism in China today in a nutshell. This is People's Square in Guiyang. Off to the left and out of camera range there's the omnipresent giant Mao statue. On the other side of People's Square is a large mural showing the Forbidden City in Beijing, if you look closely in this picture you can make out Mao and Deng Xiao Ping, communist party heavy hitters of a bygone and failed era. People's Square has been hollowed out, what lives below People's Square in Guiyang is the largest, most densely packed, Walmart Supercenter I've ever seen.

This is mid November and Christmas at Walmart in China is in full swing. Right under Mao's atheist feet the store has plenty of fake Christmas trees and patrons are bathed in Christmas music, both secular and religious. It's doubtful that any of the patrons understand the lyrics but still, Bentonville would be up to its eyeballs in lawsuits and elitist complaints if Walmart played hymns about the Virgin Mary in their US stores.

Communism stumbled on from 1949 until Den Xiao Ping wised up in 1979 impoverishing and stunting lives in China. The Communist Party and Mao and never give the Chinese people what Walmart and Sam Walton give them every day: variety and low prices wth no shortages or rationing. Communism in China couldn't put food on the table, millions died in famines that swept this country in the 1950's thanks to Mao and his state planning comrade geniuses. Political power might flow from the barrel of a gun but Walmart stacks 'em deep and sells 'em cheap. You can't eat or wear the revolution.

http://strange-taste-horsebeans.blogspot.com/2007/11/guiyang-people-sq-walmart-mao.html

It seems the Revolution came and went and all anyone got was a lousy RevLeft tee shirt. :)

synthesis
4th December 2008, 21:41
I've actually read a few news articles which present claims from business elites arguing that socialism as it was manifested in the "third world" has proven to be one of the best things to ever happen for the Western bourgeoisie. The reasoning given is that majority of these countries are on the road to full-fledged capitalism yet still have the same state apparatus with the power to label unapproved labor unions as "un-socialist" and ban them.

So not only do these countries have a standard of relatively low wages - mostly a result of post-colonial poverty which was not ameliorated by socialism - they also still have authoritarian governments which are enabled to suppress dissent on the part of the working class.

Additionally, it's not as easy to directly link these acts of suppression to the Western bourgeoisie as those of, say, Mobutu or Pinochet; therefore, they can feel even more justified in exploiting these workers.

Bud Struggle
4th December 2008, 22:03
I've actually read a few news articles which present claims from business elites arguing that socialism as it was manifested in the "third world" has proven to be one of the best things to ever happen for the Western bourgeoisie. The reasoning given is that majority of these countries are on the road to full-fledged capitalism yet still have the same state apparatus with the power to label unapproved labor unions as "un-socialist" and ban them.

So not only do these countries have a standard of relatively low wages - mostly a result of post-colonial poverty which was not ameliorated by socialism - they also still have authoritarian governments which are enabled to suppress dissent on the part of the working class.


Actually, quite a spot on post. I think Kun Fana nailed just about how things are going. the problem is that in the last 50 or so years Socialism has done little or nothing for the average worker--yet WalMart can give them a standard of living never before imagined (even at ten cents a day.)

Maybe the answere isn't Socialism, or Communism or Capitalism--it's WalMart.

Killfacer is the future of humanity. ;) :D

wigsa
4th December 2008, 22:30
You cannot walk away from situations like that.You need to tell that ***** that what her dad is doing is disgusting,he is a pig,will burn in hell(if she's a believer) and that he is an evil bastard.Then mock her about her being fat/stupid/having fucked up teeth,something personal anyway,just to hammer it home.

NEVER walk away.

Pogue
4th December 2008, 22:30
Such people aren't a problem, they'll either join or be destoryed by the workers movement.

Pogue
4th December 2008, 22:32
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2188/2042161021_91eee57610.jpg?v=0

This picture shows the state of Communism in China today in a nutshell. This is People's Square in Guiyang. Off to the left and out of camera range there's the omnipresent giant Mao statue. On the other side of People's Square is a large mural showing the Forbidden City in Beijing, if you look closely in this picture you can make out Mao and Deng Xiao Ping, communist party heavy hitters of a bygone and failed era. People's Square has been hollowed out, what lives below People's Square in Guiyang is the largest, most densely packed, Walmart Supercenter I've ever seen.

This is mid November and Christmas at Walmart in China is in full swing. Right under Mao's atheist feet the store has plenty of fake Christmas trees and patrons are bathed in Christmas music, both secular and religious. It's doubtful that any of the patrons understand the lyrics but still, Bentonville would be up to its eyeballs in lawsuits and elitist complaints if Walmart played hymns about the Virgin Mary in their US stores.

Communism stumbled on from 1949 until Den Xiao Ping wised up in 1979 impoverishing and stunting lives in China. The Communist Party and Mao and never give the Chinese people what Walmart and Sam Walton give them every day: variety and low prices wth no shortages or rationing. Communism in China couldn't put food on the table, millions died in famines that swept this country in the 1950's thanks to Mao and his state planning comrade geniuses. Political power might flow from the barrel of a gun but Walmart stacks 'em deep and sells 'em cheap. You can't eat or wear the revolution.

http://strange-taste-horsebeans.blogspot.com/2007/11/guiyang-people-sq-walmart-mao.html

It seems the Revolution came and went and all anyone got was a lousy RevLeft tee shirt. :)

I don't get it.

wigsa
4th December 2008, 22:37
Such people aren't a problem, they'll either join or be destoryed by the workers movement.

Yeah that's all well and good to say,because supposedly the revolution is around the corner...well,that's a load of bollocks.

If there's still millions of people living in the same situation as these workers in China,and millions more around the world,and the governments and we,in the developed world,allow it to happen,you can kiss the fuckin revolution goodbye and expect more of the same for the next 100 years,if not worse.

What we need to do is work democratically to change international opinion and,as socialists,convince the people around us that the situation described above is indeed happening,and it is not morally acceptable.

Bud Struggle
4th December 2008, 22:37
I don't get it.

The Revolution's over and WalMart and Jesus and Christmas won. What's not to get?

Oneironaut
4th December 2008, 22:42
You cannot walk away from situations like that.You need to tell that ***** that what her dad is doing is disgusting,he is a pig,will burn in hell(if she's a believer) and that he is an evil bastard.Then mock her about her being fat/stupid/having fucked up teeth,something personal anyway,just to hammer it home.

NEVER walk away.

That's a shit way to convince someone of your point of view.

LOLseph Stalin
4th December 2008, 23:45
You cannot walk away from situations like that.You need to tell that ***** that what her dad is doing is disgusting,he is a pig,will burn in hell(if she's a believer) and that he is an evil bastard.Then mock her about her being fat/stupid/having fucked up teeth,something personal anyway,just to hammer it home.

NEVER walk away.

I don't know the girl(damn good thing!) and don't want to be picking fights with the wrong people.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
5th December 2008, 00:05
You realize that the REAL criminal here is the Chinese Government. They LET their people be explioted by anyone who comes anone with a fast buck. That's why we have governments--to protect people. If this one businessman does this--than it must no doubt a STANDARD practice of the centural government.

The Chinese Communists are at fault much more than some idiot businessman.

My thoughts exactly.

We have a more worker-friendly government here in the US (even in TX) than there is in the People's Republic.



But if they legally acquire them to murder children ( like troops) then its ok?


Link?

Or are you refering to the troops who will be standing trial in Iraq for the actions they've done?

Drace
5th December 2008, 00:08
The Chinese government is at fault as much as the capitalist pigs. They are both capitalist pigs.

spice756
5th December 2008, 03:23
This picture shows the state of Communism in China today in a nutshell. This is People's Square in Guiyang. Off to the left and out of camera range there's the omnipresent giant Mao statue. On the other side of People's Square is a large mural showing the Forbidden City in Beijing, if you look closely in this picture you can make out Mao and Deng Xiao Ping, communist party heavy hitters of a bygone and failed era. People's Square has been hollowed out, what lives below People's Square in Guiyang is the largest, most densely packed, Walmart Supercenter I've ever seen.

This is mid November and Christmas at Walmart in China is in full swing. Right under Mao's atheist feet the store has plenty of fake Christmas trees and patrons are bathed in Christmas music, both secular and religious. It's doubtful that any of the patrons understand the lyrics but still, Bentonville would be up to its eyeballs in lawsuits and elitist complaints if Walmart played hymns about the Virgin Mary in their US stores.

Communism stumbled on from 1949 until Den Xiao Ping wised up in 1979 impoverishing and stunting lives in China. The Communist Party and Mao and never give the Chinese people what Walmart and Sam Walton give them every day: variety and low prices wth no shortages or rationing. Communism in China couldn't put food on the table, millions died in famines that swept this country in the 1950's thanks to Mao and his state planning comrade geniuses. Political power might flow from the barrel of a gun but Walmart stacks 'em deep and sells 'em cheap. You can't eat or wear the revolution.

http://strange-taste-horsebeans.blog...lmart-mao.html (http://www.anonym.to/?http://strange-taste-horsebeans.blogspot.com/2007/11/guiyang-people-sq-walmart-mao.html)

It seems the Revolution came and went and all anyone got was a lousy RevLeft tee shirt. :)



This probably would not have happen if the USSR was around.

Oneironaut
5th December 2008, 03:58
This probably would not have happen if the USSR was around.

What makes you think that if the USSR was around China's capitalist system wouldn't be capitalist? State-capitalist USSR never stopped China from its "market reforms" even while it existed.

Drace
5th December 2008, 04:35
Didn't the Chinese and the USSR have some tensions?

Jazzratt
5th December 2008, 15:37
This is just childish ignorance, but given that she (presumably) isn't working class and therefore probably never will be means she is of minimal interest to the revolutionary left.

What is far more distirburing are the economics demagogues that declare that it is our moral duty to support sweatshops because it provides work in the third world and increases in worker wages would mean (gasp) increases in prices (sometimes up to 20 US cents per item per tenfold increase). Even more distiturbing than that are imperialist gangs like the IMF and WTO that shatter fragile economies with the introduction of Friedmanite free market doctrine (*hawk-spit*) and completely fuck over the average worker by privatising all industries and services.

It's just not woeth arguing with the children of the bourgeoisie because they will never be of use to a workers revolution.

EDIT:

Didn't the Chinese and the USSR have some tensions?

Lol, understatement.

Dóchas
6th December 2008, 23:12
ye i go to a private school (not willingly) so i hear this shit all the time. most of the time i just try to ignore it but if i feel i have to confront them i will. but its sickening how people can talk about things like that in such a relaxed manner!! i really dont get it

Revolutionary Youth
6th December 2008, 23:55
I just thought I would rant about how disgusting people in my school are. Today I was hanging out with a friend and her group of friends. We sat down and then I overheard another conversation. It was some Capitalist Pig girl bragging about how her friend's dad has a business running in China and how he makes millions while paying the workers ten cents a day(it might have been ten cents an hour. I don't really remember). Even the people who were listening to this girl didn't seem to like this much. One of them said: "So you support that? They could be little children." It was the Capitalist pig's response to that part that made me want to punch somebody in the face(most likely her), she said "Well they don't know the difference." I was absolutely disgusted. I actually got up and walked away, abandoning my friend.

Anyway, that Capitalist Pig's response is basically saying "it's ok to exploit people in third world countries because they don't know the difference between having wealth and not having it."

This girl and her father reminds me of the play "An Inspector calls"

Bud Struggle
7th December 2008, 00:12
ye i go to a private school (not willingly) so i hear this shit all the time. most of the time i just try to ignore it but if i feel i have to confront them i will. but its sickening how people can talk about things like that in such a relaxed manner!! i really dont get it

I know how you feel--I live in a Capitalist country and I hear about how rotten we Capitalists are to our workers and how good Socialists are to theirs.

And then this. Have I been duped by Socialism? ;)

TheCultofAbeLincoln
7th December 2008, 06:17
What is far more distirburing are the economics demagogues that declare that it is our moral duty to support sweatshops because it provides work in the third world and increases in worker wages would mean (gasp) increases in prices (sometimes up to 20 US cents per item per tenfold increase). Even more distiturbing than that are imperialist gangs like the IMF and WTO that shatter fragile economies with the introduction of Friedmanite free market doctrine (*hawk-spit*) and completely fuck over the average worker by privatising all industries and services.


Well, China does keep its currency artificially low in order to get this type of business.....

TheCultofAbeLincoln
7th December 2008, 06:19
I don't know the girl(damn good thing!) and don't want to be picking fights with the wrong people.

You should fuck her like she's fucking the workers.

Hard.

LOLseph Stalin
7th December 2008, 06:30
You should fuck her like she's fucking the workers.

Hard.

Yea. I wish I could go and just fuck over all Capitalists. Get them on our side. ;)

Unfortunately that won't happen...

TheCultofAbeLincoln
7th December 2008, 07:56
Yea. I wish I could go and just fuck over all Capitalists. Get them on our side. ;)

Unfortunately that won't happen...

If you fuck her hard enough, she'll be begging for more ;)

angus_mor
7th December 2008, 09:43
"Yes, that certainly would have been the most productive way to address the problem."

Sorry, I guess the Bill Hicks in me's just gotta say the first thing that comes to mind. Sure, it's not productive, but sometimes people say such ugly things that they really need a fuckin' slap in the face to shut 'em the fuck up. I honestly don't care about converting the unconvertible. That's the most inhumane thing I've heard anyone say in today's context; complete disregard for human suffering, and glorification of human exploitation. I was expressing what I seriously felt at that moment, and I stand by it. Say something as sick as that around me and I won't spare you the back of my hand.

Dóchas
7th December 2008, 10:04
I know how you feel--I live in a Capitalist country and I hear about how rotten we Capitalists are to our workers and how good Socialists are to theirs.

And then this. Have I been duped by Socialism? ;)

its all a big conspiracy havnt you heard?? :lol:

not_of_this_world
7th December 2008, 10:31
Women are not *****es! "*****es" is sexism personified. Don't preach woman's rights if you are going to call them *****es. I don't care what they think or say, that hurts no one. It is her father that is the bastard. She is a woman, beautiful and lovely and don't ever forget it or we will never see the beautiful world Marx had in mind for us!:thumbup1:

Killfacer
7th December 2008, 16:10
Women are not *****es! "*****es" is sexism personified. Don't preach woman's rights if you are going to call them *****es. I don't care what they think or say, that hurts no one. It is her father that is the bastard. She is a woman, beautiful and lovely and don't ever forget it or we will never see the beautiful world Marx had in mind for us!:thumbup1:


Your joking right?

Bud Struggle
7th December 2008, 16:39
Your joking right?

She's CPUSA (as am I) so she must be joking. :lol:

Robert
7th December 2008, 19:09
You guys seem to hear this "it's so fun to fuck over poor people!" all the time and for some reason I never hear it. I should follow you around, I guess, but the only place I can imagine anyone saying this is at a snotty country club. Is that where you comrades hang out?

Seriously, I suspect the OP is either bullshitting us or he misunderstood (purposefully) the speaker.

Killfacer
7th December 2008, 20:04
You guys seem to hear this "it's so fun to fuck over poor people!" all the time and for some reason I never hear it. I should follow you around, I guess, but the only place I can imagine anyone saying this is at a snotty country club. Is that where you comrades hang out?

Seriously, I suspect the OP is either bullshitting us or he misunderstood (purposefully) the speaker.

He makes a persuasive point.

RedKnight
7th December 2008, 22:38
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2188/2042161021_91eee57610.jpg?v=0

This picture shows the state of Communism in China today in a nutshell. This is People's Square in Guiyang. Off to the left and out of camera range there's the omnipresent giant Mao statue. On the other side of People's Square is a large mural showing the Forbidden City in Beijing, if you look closely in this picture you can make out Mao and Deng Xiao Ping, communist party heavy hitters of a bygone and failed era. People's Square has been hollowed out, what lives below People's Square in Guiyang is the largest, most densely packed, Walmart Supercenter I've ever seen.

This is mid November and Christmas at Walmart in China is in full swing. Right under Mao's atheist feet the store has plenty of fake Christmas trees and patrons are bathed in Christmas music, both secular and religious. It's doubtful that any of the patrons understand the lyrics but still, Bentonville would be up to its eyeballs in lawsuits and elitist complaints if Walmart played hymns about the Virgin Mary in their US stores.

Communism stumbled on from 1949 until Den Xiao Ping wised up in 1979 impoverishing and stunting lives in China. The Communist Party and Mao and never give the Chinese people what Walmart and Sam Walton give them every day: variety and low prices wth no shortages or rationing. Communism in China couldn't put food on the table, millions died in famines that swept this country in the 1950's thanks to Mao and his state planning comrade geniuses. Political power might flow from the barrel of a gun but Walmart stacks 'em deep and sells 'em cheap. You can't eat or wear the revolution.

http://strange-taste-horsebeans.blogspot.com/2007/11/guiyang-people-sq-walmart-mao.html

It seems the Revolution came and went and all anyone got was a lousy RevLeft tee shirt. :) I'll probally fall into even greater disfavor of the powers that be, for posting this, but check out this essay. http://www.jcp.or.jp/english/jps_weekly/2002-0827-fuwa.html
It has to do with the role the market can play within socialism.

Robert
8th December 2008, 01:16
Greater disfavor? You're already restricted.

Are there varying rings of hell in the Revleft Inferno?

Labor Shall Rule
8th December 2008, 01:20
Communism stumbled on from 1949 until Den Xiao Ping wised up in 1979 impoverishing and stunting lives in China. The Communist Party and Mao and never give the Chinese people what Walmart and Sam Walton give them every day: variety and low prices wth no shortages or rationing. Communism in China couldn't put food on the table, millions died in famines that swept this country in the 1950's thanks to Mao and his state planning comrade geniuses. Political power might flow from the barrel of a gun but Walmart stacks 'em deep and sells 'em cheap. You can't eat or wear the revolution.

I know, because making life expectancy leap from 30 to 79 within two decades is 'stupid', right?

Robert
8th December 2008, 01:32
No. The Great Leap Backward was stupid.

Drace
8th December 2008, 01:42
No. The Great Leap Backward was stupid.

Lol. I'm glad instead we had the great leap forward.

Robert
8th December 2008, 03:26
I'm glad instead we had the great leap forward.

You're glad? Not me. Something about starving children seems wrong somehow.

LOLseph Stalin
8th December 2008, 06:17
You guys seem to hear this "it's so fun to fuck over poor people!" all the time and for some reason I never hear it. I should follow you around, I guess, but the only place I can imagine anyone saying this is at a snotty country club. Is that where you comrades hang out?

Seriously, I suspect the OP is either bullshitting us or he misunderstood (purposefully) the speaker.


1. I heard this at school
2. I'm not bullshitting. Maybe the other person was, but I put down here exactly what I heard come out of that pig's mouth.
3. I'm female! >: (

TheCultofAbeLincoln
8th December 2008, 06:33
Women are not *****es! "*****es" is sexism personified. Don't preach woman's rights if you are going to call them *****es. I don't care what they think or say, that hurts no one. It is her father that is the bastard. She is a woman, beautiful and lovely and don't ever forget it or we will never see the beautiful world Marx had in mind for us!:thumbup1:

I'll take it you're not joking, but it seems to me that many women in our raunch culture have come to accept that being a piece of ass is the best a woman can be. There are many women who have excelled were they couldn't just a short time ago, of course, but I can't help that feel women have been degraded over time into solely being judged throughout life as what they appear to be, on a very superficial level.

Personally, being a dude I'm not affected. I could put on 60 lbs tomorrow and I firmly believe society wouldn't treat me any different. Can most women say the same?

I think not.

Though personally I don't trust anything that bleeds for 4 days straight and doesn't die. (haha just a joke)


You guys seem to hear this "it's so fun to fuck over poor people!" all the time and for some reason I never hear it. I should follow you around, I guess, but the only place I can imagine anyone saying this is at a snotty country club. Is that where you comrades hang out?

I've heard the "poor people deserve what they get" argument from a lot of people. Though, I am in Texas.



3. I'm female! >: (


Oh, uh, sorry about the whole fuck-her-hard-until-she-begs-for-more thing, mam.

Unless you're into girls, of course.

synthesis
8th December 2008, 09:11
There are many women who have excelled were they couldn't just a short time ago, of course, but I can't help that feel women have been degraded over time into solely being judged throughout life as what they appear to be, on a very superficial level.Perhaps it is because the modern era of "sexual liberation" has not displaced the patriarchy and subsequently what we consider to be sexual freedom has evolved into a function of male sexual desire.

In other words, we label traditional views on promiscuity as repressive and reactionary, and yet "do whatever you want" has ultimately become "show your titties to the camera."

Just a theory... more accurately a hypothesis.

RGacky3
9th December 2008, 00:10
Perhaps it is because the modern era of "sexual liberation" has not displaced the patriarchy and subsequently what we consider to be sexual freedom has evolved into a function of male sexual desire.

In other words, we label traditional views on promiscuity as repressive and reactionary, and yet "do whatever you want" has ultimately become "show your titties to the camera."


Well, titties sell, and women like the attention (many do). If women have a problem with it they won't do it.


Women are not *****es! "*****es" is sexism personified. Don't preach woman's rights if you are going to call them *****es. I don't care what they think or say, that hurts no one. It is her father that is the bastard. She is a woman, beautiful and lovely and don't ever forget it or we will never see the beautiful world Marx had in mind for us!:thumbup1:

Some women are *****es, Some women are not, if I know a woman and she's acting like a *****, its totally appropriate for me to call her a *****, the same way I'll call a douche bag a douche bag, and generally if I'm calling her a ***** my intention is to hurt her feelings.

Some women are beautiful and lovely, some are ugly, but thats just my opinion, women can feel however they want about themselves, I don't demand women to think of me or treat me a certain way.

RedKnight
9th December 2008, 04:54
Greater disfavor? You're already restricted.

Are there varying rings of hell in the Revleft Inferno? LOL :lol: I was refering to there popular opinion of me. Really the only worse punishment is banishment, which only happens to fascists. So unless the administrators deem me to be a fascist, I should be alright.

Sendo
9th December 2008, 08:49
ye i go to a private school (not willingly) so i hear this shit all the time. most of the time i just try to ignore it but if i feel i have to confront them i will. but its sickening how people can talk about things like that in such a relaxed manner!! i really dont get it

would i be right to assume if that it's a usa private that it's secular/prep?

in my experience the catholic schools tend to be filled with the shoulder-shrugging/atheist/non-practicing Catholics. Mine even had some liberation theologist teachers.

thus far in life I've seen it go like this:
(modern-day) Catholic school <- white suburban public school -> prep/secular private

Dóchas
9th December 2008, 19:12
would i be right to assume if that it's a usa private that it's secular/prep?

in my experience the catholic schools tend to be filled with the shoulder-shrugging/atheist/non-practicing Catholics. Mine even had some liberation theologist teachers.

thus far in life I've seen it go like this:
(modern-day) Catholic school <- white suburban public school -> prep/secular private

na i dont live in the US and religion is compulsory in my school as well as business which dosnt bother me (the religion bit) but id say it pisses off loads of people who have to endure it.

LOLseph Stalin
13th December 2008, 01:00
I bet you "learn" in Bourgeois classes. :P

PigmerikanMao
13th December 2008, 01:13
Well, I'm a man, so I wouldn't slap the girl- but I'd probably throw a soft drink, stapler, or something- I'd definitely cuss her out. But I wasn't there so... yeah. :rolleyes:

LOLseph Stalin
13th December 2008, 01:23
Throwings things at Capitalists sounds fun... I think you just inspired me. lol

PigmerikanMao
13th December 2008, 01:35
I'd throw petty change at them, pennies and the like. It'd be kinda ironic. :rolleyes:

LOLseph Stalin
15th December 2008, 06:12
Yay for irony! Pennies sounds like a good thing to throw at Capitalist pigs. I could laugh at the irony of it.

RGacky3
16th December 2008, 23:08
Well, titties sell, and women like the attention (many do). If women have a problem with it they won't do it.


Some women are *****es, Some women are not, if I know a woman and she's acting like a *****, its totally appropriate for me to call her a *****, the same way I'll call a douche bag a douche bag, and generally if I'm calling her a ***** my intention is to hurt her feelings.

Some women are beautiful and lovely, some are ugly, but thats just my opinion, women can feel however they want about themselves, I don't demand women to think of me or treat me a certain way.

I thought for sure I was going to get crucified for that.

PigmerikanMao
17th December 2008, 00:59
Why would you? It isn't sexist or anything, it's the practical truth. :rolleyes:

RGacky3
17th December 2008, 21:47
Unfortunately sometimes common sense and practical truth seen as sexist, some people would probably call erections sexist.

Bud Struggle
17th December 2008, 22:05
I thought for sure I was going to get crucified for that.

Communisnt women know how to hold their grudges and wait for the right moment to "respond." :lol:

Jazzratt
17th December 2008, 22:45
Unfortunately sometimes common sense and practical truth seen as sexist, some people would probably call erections sexist.

Don't be a goon (wow, the second post I needed to start like that, must be something in the water). The thing is that when most sexists talk about "common sense" and "practical truth" what they mean is basically "caricatured stereotypes" and "halfwitted assumptions". I mean, for fuck's sake I'd expect this kind of shit from, say, Jeremy Fucking Clarkson, Richard Littlejohn or (so that americans can get the reference) Bill O'Reilly.

Go fuck yourself.

RGacky3
17th December 2008, 23:54
The thing is that when most sexists talk about "common sense" and "practical truth" what they mean is basically "caricatured stereotypes" and "halfwitted assumptions".

Do you think its a half witted assumption to say that if a woman is acting like a ***** then its appropriate to call her one? Or if a dude is acting like a goon its appropriate to to tell him to
Go fuck yourself.

The problem I have is when basic sex drive is labeled as sexist, and the concept that somehow women are entitled to be treated a certain way (i.e. not be called a ***** no matter what she does), whereas men are not. Or that judging a woman sexually is sexist (i.e. that chick is fat I'm not gonna talk to her I'll go talk to the hot one), some people would consider that sexist, switch it around. if a Chick says "I'm not gonna talk to that ulgy fat dude, I'll talk to the tall ripped one." Is that sexist? No.

LOLseph Stalin
18th December 2008, 06:01
Communisnt women know how to hold their grudges and wait for the right moment to "respond."

I'm assuming that is a compliment?

Bud Struggle
18th December 2008, 12:48
I'm assuming that is a compliment?

Indeed it was! :)

danyboy27
18th December 2008, 17:40
The problem I have is when basic sex drive is labeled as sexist, and the concept that somehow women are entitled to be treated a certain way (i.e. not be called a ***** no matter what she does), whereas men are not. Or that judging a woman sexually is sexist (i.e. that chick is fat I'm not gonna talk to her I'll go talk to the hot one), some people would consider that sexist, switch it around. if a Chick says "I'm not gonna talk to that ulgy fat dude, I'll talk to the tall ripped one." Is that sexist? No.

i think it depend on the way you put it. you can without being regarded has sexist to express your tastes IE: i prefers skinny girls.

lombas
18th December 2008, 18:07
The girl is not that much of a problem, puberty will get her some way or the other. Her dad is the problem.

RGacky3
18th December 2008, 18:32
The girl is not that much of a problem, puberty will get her some way or the other. Her dad is the problem.


What? Her dad is the problem? How so?


i think it depend on the way you put it. you can without being regarded has sexist to express your tastes IE: i prefers skinny girls.

Its sexist or not because of the intent not how you put it.

Dóchas
18th December 2008, 18:37
What? Her dad is the problem? How so?

did you not read the first post?



It was some Capitalist Pig girl bragging about how her friend's dad has a business running in China and how he makes millions while paying the workers ten cents a day(it might have been ten cents an hour.

lombas
18th December 2008, 18:44
What? Her dad is the problem? How so?


Because while the girl is only a nitwit who doesn't care about people being exploited, her dad exploits people.

RGacky3
18th December 2008, 18:47
did you not read the first post?

I did, but I was thinking off track, my bad.

Dóchas
18th December 2008, 18:50
I did, but I was thinking off track, my bad.

no worries i sometimes skim read first posts anyway

BIG BROTHER
18th December 2008, 20:09
Well there's a classic example that the ideas of a human being come mostly through its surroundings and material conditions. She was born into not just a rich petty bourgeoisie class, but from what you mention a typical bourgeoisie family. Therefore it seems like that its ok for her.

There's not much point in arguing with her, rather its better to organize workers so she can be overthrown.

LOLseph Stalin
19th December 2008, 06:04
Because while the girl is only a nitwit who doesn't care about people being exploited, her dad exploits people.

Of course. The poor girl is just going by what her father teaches her.



Well there's a classic example that the ideas of a human being come mostly through its surroundings and material conditions. She was born into not just a rich petty bourgeoisie class, but from what you mention a typical bourgeoisie family. Therefore it seems like that its ok for her.

There's not much point in arguing with her, rather its better to organize workers so she can be overthrown.


Cheers to that!

Skin_HeadBanger
20th December 2008, 01:49
fucking repulsive *****.

LOLseph Stalin
20th December 2008, 05:59
fucking repulsive *****.


Fully agreed. Somebody needs to go in there and "re-educate" her.lol

AngloSaxon
22nd December 2008, 21:46
edited

RedAnarchist
22nd December 2008, 21:52
Well, I have a friend who has a father that designs cell phones. Now, he says the company has businesses over there that do the same thing. But I don't see the problem. They need jobs don't they? They have had the same economic status for about 60 or so years. There are few that have power, and are rich. And a larger group that is laborious, and poorer. I don't think there is much of a middle class in China. Communist China is only powerful due to the help of a Capitalist America, and a Moderately Capitalist Europe shipping OUR jobs over seas where labor is very cheap. I would rather jobs stay in my nation so my people could benefit from the company.

And put it this way... AT LEST THEY HAVE A JOB NOW! Weather or not it sucks ass. I think any third worlders would agree; at lest they can barely survive, then not survive at all.

I banned you yesterday. Try to get it through that thick skull of yours this time.

Comrade B
29th December 2008, 06:51
Man, if I were you, I would've slapped that ***** and told her that she is the evil that plagues this earth.
nooooooooooooooooooo
They will sue you
also, you were in a school, the rich person's family will try to get you expelled, you need to insult them as extremely as possible, call them a pig, *****, and spit at their shoes, but do not directly hit them.

Schools survive largely on local political figures, who rely greatly on donors, who are, or rely on, their rich bosses. That rich man owns your school.

casper
29th December 2008, 08:09
couldn't it of been useful to of been like " your totally moronic" then at least attempt to explain some of the basics. Rich people can help us out if we turn them to our cause, its best to try to do so when their young i suppose. money is freedom and power, we are going to need power and freedom. a rich communist, that would be interesting.

Comrade B
29th December 2008, 22:55
a rich communist, that would be interesting.
Though this will be followed by a massive stream of anti-Bolivarian/Chavez posts calling him a populist rather than a communist or socialist,
A former oil executive in Venezuela is actually helping Chavez manage the oil business without the help of the old businesses.

A large part of the key to establishing a stable economy in a communist country is getting people that know how to do the jobs that were formerly held by the upper class. Unfortunately, these people are usually already very wealthy, what must be done is allowing them to keep jobs with similar power, however put government workers in a position regulating them, as to make sure they don't revert the society back towards a capitalist one, or try to steal from the industry they are in charge of.

(and really, spare me the posts calling Chavez a populist, I have heard you all shout at me on this one before)

Counterreactionary
30th December 2008, 19:11
AngloSaxon
Well, I have a friend who has a father that designs cell phones. Now, he says the company has businesses over there that do the same thing. But I don't see the problem. They need jobs don't they? They have had the same economic status for about 60 or so years. There are few that have power, and are rich. And a larger group that is laborious, and poorer. I don't think there is much of a middle class in China. Communist China is only powerful due to the help of a Capitalist America, and a Moderately Capitalist Europe shipping OUR jobs over seas where labor is very cheap. I would rather jobs stay in my nation so my people could benefit from the company.

And put it this way... AT LEST THEY HAVE A JOB NOW! Weather or not it sucks ass. I think any third worlders would agree; at lest they can barely survive, then not survive at all.


The fact that the workers' situations could be worse does not justify the given conditions.

Comrade B
31st December 2008, 01:36
And put it this way... AT LEST THEY HAVE A JOB NOW! Weather or not it sucks ass. I think any third worlders would agree; at lest they can barely survive, then not survive at all.

Hey, they could be getting nails inserted up their ass! We had better thank Bob, the chastity belt maker for forcing them to wear chastity belts to prevent the nails up the ass.

Also, if you are from a non-English speaking country, I don't mind that your spelling and grammar sucks, but if you are actually from one, please, use spell check.

LOLseph Stalin
2nd January 2009, 04:26
Anglosaxon's post scares me. O_o

Those people in third countries aren't really being helped by Capitalism. They're still starving, there's basically slave/child labour, virtually no health care, and numerous other things. If Capitalism was helping in third world countries then the people would have all those things.