Socialism in Gaming

[KurtFF8]

Update 2 - June 29th 2009
Update 1 - Dec 24th 2008

This thread will help direct people looking for socialist themes in video gaming (Console, computer, etc. I'm not familiar with board games or anything like that so if anyone else is then feel free to post additions)

Overtly Or close enough to being overtly Socialist

Red Faction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Faction) - First Person Shooter. The name itself is said to be inspired by the Militant Marxist German group "Red Army Faction". The player plays a "mine worker" who goes through a worker revolution on Mars, pretty clear what ideology is at work here.

Stalin's Dilemma (http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=2997) - "a game about Soviet economic development between 1928-42. "

Soviet Economic Simulator (http://www.orgburo.com/games/ses.php) - Based on Stalin's Dilemma (http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/pc/simulations/games_s/stalin_s_dilemma.html)

Crisis in the Kremlin (http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?name=Crisis+in+The+Kremlin) - More of a political game about the late Soviet Union, player deals with late politics of the USSR and tries to prevent its fall.

Democracy (http://www.positech.co.uk/democracy/democracy1.html) - Policy simulator. You can implement "socialist" policies to make your socialist base happy, although many of those policies are really just reformist social democratic policies. Although the game's sequel has a mod that allows for government control of industry: link (http://www.positech.co.uk/democracy2/modlist.html)

Guerrilla War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_War_%28arcade_game%29) - Originally released in Japan as "Guevara". You play as either Che or Castro fighting in the Cuban revolution. Although the American release was renamed to Guerrilla War due to the obvious anti-Communism of America, only names were changed. It was originally and arcade game but was later released for NES. The NES version can be played online at virtualnes.com (http://www.virtualnes.com)

Also see: http://www.molleindustria.org/en/home - Anti-Globalization flash games


http://www.aforcemorepowerful.org/game/index.php - A game about non-violent protest tactics.




Not Socialist but one can do "socialist things"

Civilization IV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_iv) - (And the rest of the series). Player can develop her civilization to eventually move towards "communism" or at least have state owned property, in expansion packs they add corporations which can be eliminated by going the socialist route.

Victoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria:_An_Empire_Under_the_Sun) - Grand Strategy game about the 19th century. After a while, Marxism becomes popular and the player can usher in a "proletarian democracy".

Tropico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropico) - You can be Fidel Castro, Che Guevara and others. You can take power in a communist revolution, KGB-planned coup, etc. You can orient your embassy towards the USSR, carry out trade missions with the USSR, etc. You can run your country along socialistic lines.

Tropico 3 (http://www.tropico3.com/)

Supreme Ruler 2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Ruler_2010) - You can be north Korea, etc. Socialistic policies are possible, but advisers are limited to the "liberal-moderate-conservative" spectrum.

Hidden Agenda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Agenda_%28game%29) - You're the head of a post-revolutionary government in Central America (based on Nicaragua in the 80's). You can enact socialist policies, favor unions over bosses, trade with Cuba, etc. You have to deal with a hostile U.S. administration.


Player can "Be a Socialist" but socialism itself isn't relevant



Red Alert Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Red_Alert_series) - Player can be the USSR and fight against the West, RTS game. Also in the later game "Generals" you can be "Red" China.


World in Conflict (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_in_conflict) - RTS. I believe players can play as Soviets. I also believe that the expansion has a Soviet story line.

Rush For Berlin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_for_berlin) - You can play as the USSR, fighting against the Nazis in WW2.

Balance of Power (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_Power_%28computer_game%29) - You can be either the US or the USSR and engage in geopolitical battles to "control the globe" in a sense.

Thanks To other users who have contributed to this list, I'll keep trying to update with additions.

[Tatarin]

Deus Ex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex) - Not really a socialist game, but you work for a policing agency, and later you find evidence that the agency is really only a tool for the rich and powerful who seeks global domination. There are intelligent political discussions in it too, and in one of it's three endings is almost reminding of the idea of a Vanguard Party.

Deus Ex: Invisible War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Invisible_War) - Yes, the so-called sequel to the first. Dissapointment if you like the first game, but in itself it is outstanding as one of the few games with some "serious" politics (compared to most "any-other-ideology-except-capitalism = EVIL" games). Also, one of it's four endings can be viewed as bringing forth world utopia.

Thief: The Dark Project, Thief II: The Metal Age and Thief (III): Deadly Shadows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thief_(computer_game_series)) - A very good "stealth-FPS" series in where you have to steal from the rich, though the money goes to yourself rather than to those who needs it. I guess what makes the series "different" is that the world, or rather "The City" in where the game takes place, is a mix of feudalism and liberalism (there are mentions of "the baron comes back from the war", though the guards are mostly of the mercenary-, police- and religious cults-type).

[Drace]

(http://www.anonym.to/?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_iv)Civilization IV (http://www.anonym.to/?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_iv) - (And the rest of the series). Player can develop her civilization to eventually move towards "communism" or at least have state owned property, in expantion packs they add capitalists which can be eliminated by going the socialist route.

Shweet!

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Tropico: You can be Fidel Castro, Che Guevara and others. You can take power in a communist revolution, KGB-planned coup, etc. You can orient your embassy towards the USSR, carry out trade missions with the USSR, etc. You can run your country along socialistic lines.

Rush for Berlin: You can play as the USSR, fighting against the Nazis in WW2.

Supreme Ruler 2010: You can be north Korea, etc. Socialistic policies are possible, but advisers are limited to the "liberal-moderate-conservative" spectrum.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Almost forgot an old one:

Hidden Agenda: You're the head of a post-revolutionary government in Central America (based on Nicaragua in the 80's). You can enact socialist policies, favor unions over bosses, trade with Cuba, etc. You have to deal with a hostile U.S. administration. Official site: http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/proj/sw/games/hidden-agenda.html

[Killfacer]

What about "republic the revolution", would have thought that should be pretty high up.

[MarxSchmarx]

Sim City IV does an OK job letting you do reformist things, like supporting free clinics, taxing the shit out of the rich, building playgrounds and investing heavily in education. Unfortunately, it doesn't have state or city owned enterprises, and the viability of the socialist city depends on population size. In particular, small town socialism is almost impossible.

[Wanted Man]

What about "republic the revolution", would have thought that should be pretty high up.
I don't think it's a particularly socialist game. Your enemy is basically a post-Soviet dictator. Politics are divided along "force" (workers, unions, petty crime), "influence" (middle class, religion, community) and "wealth" (capitalists). I'm not sure if the game actually lets you lead a socialist revolution, I never finished it. It was just too boring and too unrealistic. Just another example of a very ambitious game that eventually failed on all counts. :( Now, we're still waiting for a really good political simulator.

[Killfacer]

I see what you mean but its more revolutionary than say "democracy" or "sim city".

[Dust Bunnies]

Stalin's Dilemma (http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/pc/simulations/games_s/stalin_s_dilemma.html) - "a game about Soviet economic development between 1928-42. "


You need to pay to download, and they have a bunch of great old games there... anyone that has found a solution please give me it.

[hugsandmarxism]

Lets see...

Well, in Call of Duty, you can play as Red Army soldiers fighting Nazis...

Uh...

Metal Gear Solid has a bunch of neat characters from the USSR, and in Portable Ops., you can recruit them and play as them...

other than that, I have nothing. Perhaps someone with some techno-savvy can make mods for current games with some socialistic themes. I'd definitely enjoy that.

[KurtFF8]

You need to pay to download, and they have a bunch of great old games there... anyone that has found a solution please give me it.

Hmm, it's free here (http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=2997) I believe. I'll edit the OP and change the link.

[Robespierre2.0]

You guys haven't mentioned Hearts of Iron 2!
It's not perfect, but it's the best strategy game I've seen so far. There's no explicit politics- pick whatever nation on earth you want to play as, and manipulate the government sliders to create whatever kind of state you want.

A few things that bug me though:
1. If you become a socialist country through events or yearly slider moves, you can't move to full central planning immediately (you have to move it 1 click away from free market every year), which I find unrealistic.
2. Getulio Vargas' regime is 'Left-Wing Radical' in-game, and it's possible for the Soviets to ally them. Vargas was a Pro-German fascist in reality.
3. They made central planning inferior to the free market (more industrial capacity, but slower and more expensive upgrades). That's bollocks- central planning is far superior, but I guess I wouldn't expect a capitalist game company to accurately model the imperialist, imperial-dependent, and socialist economic systems.

[Tatarin]

About Hearts of Iron, didn't it have a completely wrong "politics" idea too? Like a pyramid with capitalism, socialism and fascism as three distinct things?

[KurtFF8]

Like a pyramid with capitalism, socialism and fascism as three distinct things?

They aren't distinct things...?

Anyway, Victoria is a game made by the same company that came out before HoI and it's the same game but based in the mid 19th century that goes up until WWI (and then a few years after that I think). And in that game you can usher in a "proletarian dictatorship".

[Schrödinger's Cat]

There's two decent games out on the internet ($$ required, though) called "Democracy" and "Democracy II." You run different countries, making decisions and watching the consequences of those decisions - if you fall out of favor, you can be voted out, or assassinated. I turned Britain into a communist utopia.

[genstrike]

You guys haven't mentioned Hearts of Iron 2!

Nice knowing I'm not the only HOI2 fan. It's an awesome game, although I wouldn't say it has any sort of politics to it (aside from militarism, but what strategy game doesn't). And, judging by some of the forum posts and AARs, for every socialist there are two Nazi fanboys.

But back on topic, has anyone played Guerilla War on the NES (you can probably play it on virtualnes.com too)? It starts off with "Hail the Heroes of the Revolution" and a picture of a guy who looks suspiciously like Fidel Castro, who gets on a boat that looks suspiciously like the Granma to land on an island that looks suspiciously like Cuba and... you know the drill

[Invincible Summer]

I remember when I used to play RA2, I'd always be Soviets and make the computer players easy so I could crush them easily with all my Apocalypse tanks and Kirov airships.


The Russian accents make my day.

[S. Zetor]

Twilight Struggle is a board game about the cold war, where you can play the Americans or the Soviets. It ranks no 4 on Boardgamegeek.com's best board games list.

It doesn't have anything to do with "building socialism" etc., it's a tactical event-driven card game that's about international politics and gaining influence all over the globe. The game dynamics are pretty impressive, and capture the "cold war atmosphere" quite well.

[Drace]

Did we forget about the Command and Conquer series?

Renegade was my favorite.

[Wanted Man]

C&C was mentioned here, Red Alert is part of the series after all.

As for Renegade, I recently found out that this game still has a community going strong, which kind of surprised me. The game got quite a bit of hype that it may not have lived up to entirely, but it was pretty good.

[Glenn Beck]

c&c was mentioned here, red alert is part of the series after all.

As for renegade, i recently found out that this game still has a community going strong, which kind of surprised me. The game got quite a bit of hype that it may not have lived up to entirely, but it was pretty good.

Down with GDI!

Edit: Did anybody play C&C 3? The NOD campaign was really fucking awesome until the exact moment the aliens invaded. It was great on atmosphere and fucking shit up with some ludicrous mass media pastiche of all the western liberal's bogeymen from religious fanatics to eco-terrorists to Communists was a hell of a lot of fun. C&C is probably the more entertaining series of anti-communist entertainment I can think of

[Brother No. 1]

well isint also Superpower a game with socailism for you can move countries to the left side and the economy to the left also

[mykittyhasaboner]

Red Faction: Guerrilla (http://community.redfaction.com/main.php)
(http://www.revleft.com/vb/Red%20Faction:%20Guerilla)

[Hyacinth]

Death to Spies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_Spies)—"Set in World War II, the player's character is a captain in the eponymous Soviet counterintelligence agency (SMERSH (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMERSH))."

[KurtFF8]

So I just played Democracy 2 and played it with the "Government Control of Industry" mod and that certainly added a new element of possible socialist policy to the game. Granted as we all know, government control of industry doesn't equate to socialism, but in this game it does with this mod. The icon for it is also a hammer and sickle, I suggest that anyone who has the game try out that mod. http://www.positech.co.uk/democracy2/modlist.html

[KurtFF8]

So to clarify about Civilization IV - The game adds "Corporations" not "Capitalists" and this isn't added until the "Beyond The Sword" expansion pack. And as for "getting rid of them" I believe that adopting state property (which is "communism" in the game) makes them disappear and foreign corporations unable to operate in your nation.

[griffjam]

Roma Victor: Barbarian guilds can be socialist

[Dr Mindbender]

'Red Faction' isnt 'leftist'. Play it through to the end and you'll see what i mean.


Also in Sid Meir's Civilisations revolutions you get to pick 'Communism' as your ruling ideaology but it has little bearing on the games otherwise linear gameplay.

[Honggweilo]

Oh and people, dont forget Anti Japan War Online, an MMORPG made by the Communist Youth League of China :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japan_War_Online
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japan_War_Online:p)

[Das war einmal]

C&C was mentioned here, Red Alert is part of the series after all.

As for Renegade, I recently found out that this game still has a community going strong, which kind of surprised me. The game got quite a bit of hype that it may not have lived up to entirely, but it was pretty good.


I really, really hate that game. It fucked up the C&C lore and it is one of the worst FPS I have ever played. Even for that time it was plain ugly

[Dr Mindbender]

There is a new CnC FPS being launched later in the year called 'Tiberium.'

Again its based in the GDI/nod universe but between the events of CnC3 and Kane's Wrath.

Lookee
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DrYl8ps074k

Its supposed to take advantage of recent graphical technological advances but wether or not the story and gameplay will match it is to be seen. I'm quite hopeful. I don't think Renegade was that bad, it had an intense online community and innovative ideas like fully controllable vehicles. This is before Halo, remember.

[RedSonRising]

Just Cause lets you simulate pretty much any central american guerrilla revolution...the setting is vaguley leftist, with the movement being spread through regional militants. A corrupt leader is at fault, but there is a moral catch: you are a CIA operative. The name itself is based off of the Noriega operation "Just Cause" under Bush the 1st, but if you can pretend that the CIA Regime changes the US supports are justified, then the game will help you beleive that you are playing as an agent of good. Its a pretty crappy graphics game, but the missions are interesting. It is basically grand theft auto, but aiding a revolution in central america instead.

Also, Death To Spies (already mentioned) is a GREAT game.

[Drace]

Renegade as an FPS did suck ass. The action was too unrealistic.

But the team bases were a good and unique idea

[ComradeOm]

Also in Sid Meir's Civilisations revolutions you get to pick 'Communism' as your ruling ideaology but it has little bearing on the games otherwise linear gameplay.Linear gameplay in a Civ game? :confused:

[Pogue]

Just Cause lets you simulate pretty much any central american guerrilla revolution...the setting is vaguley leftist, with the movement being spread through regional militants. A corrupt leader is at fault, but there is a moral catch: you are a CIA operative. The name itself is based off of the Noriega operation "Just Cause" under Bush the 1st, but if you can pretend that the CIA Regime changes the US supports are justified, then the game will help you beleive that you are playing as an agent of good. Its a pretty crappy graphics game, but the missions are interesting. It is basically grand theft auto, but aiding a revolution in central america instead.

Also, Death To Spies (already mentioned) is a GREAT game.

The guy on the front of the game is meant to represent the CIA agent who murdered Che Guevara. Its a shit game.

[Dr Mindbender]

Linear gameplay in a Civ game? :confused:

Play it and you'll see what i mean. The gameplay is monotonous, the characters are annoying and for a civ game it feels very restrictive.

[ComradeOm]

Play it and you'll see what i mean. The gameplay is monotonous, the characters are annoying and for a civ game it feels very restrictive.I've played it. Its not my favourite in the series but its still a sandbox game and about as non-linear as one can get

[Honggweilo]

There is a new CnC FPS being launched later in the year called 'Tiberium.'

Again its based in the GDI/nod universe but between the events of CnC3 and Kane's Wrath.

Lookee
DrYl8ps074k

Its supposed to take advantage of recent graphical technological advances but wether or not the story and gameplay will match it is to be seen. I'm quite hopeful. I don't think Renegade was that bad, it had an intense online community and innovative ideas like fully controllable vehicles. This is before Halo, remember.
wasnt tiberium cancelled due to lack of animo?

[Dr Mindbender]

wasnt tiberium cancelled due to lack of animo?

It read was postponed but not cancelled.....


EDIT: Damn you're right. It didnt meet EA's 'quality standards'. :crying:

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6198367.html

[Das war einmal]

Its not socialist or communist or even vaguely political but the moral choices you make in The Witcher can be pretty progressive and, in contrary to many games with black and white petty morality, your decisions are much more based on 'the lesser evil', a bit more like real life, so to say. The setting is a bit medieval fantasy, but with a real mature undertone. In the game there are these following elements: there are pogroms on witches and so called 'non-humans' (elves and dwarves), fueled by a sectarian religion, you can decide whether or not you help the 'terrorist' or to 'defend the humans' and there are far reaching consequences later in the game which are the result of these decisions. Besides that, the gameplay is brilliant, the setting is lovely and it has one of the best minigames that you wished every RPG had (boozing, fighting, courting and gambling)

[Circle E Society]

In Doom you kill Nazi Zombie-ish things. nothing to do with socialism but killing nazis is always cool.

[Dr Mindbender]

In Doom you kill Nazi Zombie-ish things. nothing to do with socialism but killing nazis is always cool.

funny you should mention nazi zombies because that is precisely the theme of the mini game-easter egg that you are rewarded with for completing call of duty 5. Its hard as nails btw.

i think youre mixing up 2 games from the same creator though. The bad guys in Wolfenstein are nazis, the ones in Doom were zombies but they werent the politically orientated variety.

Mainly just plain old boring liberal zombies i think.

[Holden Caulfield]

funny you should mention nazi zombies because that is precisely the theme of the mini game-easter egg that you are rewarded with for completing call of duty 5. Its hard as nails btw.
haha we play that on 2 player obesessively, i can't get past level 12 :(

[Kamerat]

Battlefield Vietnam is a great game to fight for the viritual revolution. This game keept me occupied from working for the real life revolution for a long time. NVA (North Vietnamese Army) and NFL (Vietcong) are much weeker then the imperialist yankees in air MiG 21 without heatseekers vs F-4 with, Mi8 vs Huey and Cobra, but on land T-72 and BTR-60 beats Sheridan and M-113 any day. The most unbalanced aspect of game is the combination of M60 and LAW to the heavy US soldiers both best handheld weapons in the game. Thats also the reason why the best players fight for NVA with AK-47. Few things are better then spawnrapeing the imperialist with your Mi8 while playing 'War' (what is it good for) by Edwin Starr on max volume.

[Honggweilo]

funny you should mention nazi zombies because that is precisely the theme of the mini game-easter egg that you are rewarded with for completing call of duty 5. Its hard as nails btw.

i think youre mixing up 2 games from the same creator though. The bad guys in Wolfenstein are nazis, the ones in Doom were zombies but they werent the politically orientated variety.

Mainly just plain old boring liberal zombies i think.
Dude give me your PSN account, we need to do some serious nazi zombie grining :lol:

[Tatarin]

I'm seriously disturbed by the fact that none have mentioned the absolutely ultimate Communist game: Super Mario Bros.

Not many people looks at the Mario Bros. for what it really is. Mario and Luigi lives in the US, but they are either sons of immigrants or immigrants themselves (from Italy, perhaps a link to WW2?). Perhaps the most outstanding point is that they are working class (plumbers).

The settings that the Mario games are set in are suspiciously based on liberation. Mario 1-4 (Bros. 1, 2, 3 and World) are placed in a world that is lead by [the head of state] Princess Peach. Her "people" are mushrooms, or the mushroom-people, or something. But one day, an evil dragon/turtle named [I]Koopa (note here that if you remove one "o", and place two dots over the other, it will spell Köpa - Swedish for "buy") and corrupts the land. The army (the turtles, gombas, flowers etc) naturally defends this new dictator, who does what - exploit the people and thier land for his own purposes.

What is more interesting is that Koopa, later on known as Bowser (the Boss-er) have 7 kids, who in SMB 3 and SM World takes control of different parts of the world - making them what? Client states. Naturally, all these kids come from the rich Bowser, all are ruthless, and all answer to him.

Not convinced? Then how do you explain the overtly socially liberal views of the heroes? Or the symbols?

For example, how many people have you seen walk around with their first letter printed on their hats? They obviously symbolizes Marx and Lenin (Lenin was a follower of Marx, just like Luigi is the follower of Mario). What about Mario's overtly red suit and his Maoist-looking hat? What about Luigi's overtly environmental-looking suit (green and blue)? Or the combination of ML - Marxism-Leninism?

Don't forget their working class, immigrant-to-the-US background, plus Mario being a little chubby, Luigi little taller than the average person, mouschtage (like Marx (chubby) and Lenin (taller than average)) - certainly not the usual muscular action-prone gun-freak blue-eyed blonde American Rambo, would you say?

What about the items they use? Mushrooms that makes them bigger, flowers that makes them magically shoot fire, and feathers that makes them fly? Ever thought about the symbolism of Mario and Luigi defeating ghosts throughout the games? And turtle-skelletons (the dead soldiers, you know, the whole thing about "they died in wane for their country" stuff, about soldiers honour and the flag and all that).

But hey, what about the money Mario and Luigi collects? Obviously, as you collect a sum of them, you recieve points (and extra lives later on - an obvious symbol for taxing the rich to give a sustained life to the poor - again social democracy). Besides, who in their right mind would keep going to a magical world and risk one's life after collecting such a huge sum of money? Obviously, the money is returned or given away, after the defeat of Bowser, to rebuild the infrastructure of the occupied country.

Mario and Luigi is overtly anti-gun-law, as they use physical force (martial arts - not typical Western) and magic (the theories of Marxism), while the enemies use canons, airships, boats, panzer-tanks and hide in their expensively huge castles (all Western European and American inventions of war). Also note that Mario saves the Princess at last, choosing instead to liberate the people firts, indicating that the Princess isn't a VIP or a very rich person, let alone underscoring her real political power, who needs to be saved first, but also hinting on the non-sexist nature of the Mario brothers.

But what happens when Bowser/Koopa is defeated? Mario and Luigi saves the princess, Mario gets a kiss on the cheek, and leaving a world where they could abuse their fame and newly gained political power, they go back to "our world". They then re-appear in the sequel, answering the call of the [mushroom]people, still as plumbers (again, they didn't use the money they collected) - again pointing out the brothers' strong working class characteristics.

What other liberation games do you really need? :)

[Brother No. 1]

Yeah i have seen that on youtube. Very strange that Mario=Stalin in some of the pics. But if any one has metioned World in conflict:Soviet assualt is a bit socialist game. Well you can play as the CCCP and thats socialist enough for me.

[Circle E Society]

Okay we got to level 26 or something on nazi zombies in cod5. No in Doom you kill nazi skinhead zombies. I know Wolfenstein you kill nazis too.

[swirling_vortex]

I'm seriously disturbed by the fact that none have mentioned the absolutely ultimate Communist game: Super Mario Bros.

Not many people looks at the Mario Bros. for what it really is. Mario and Luigi lives in the US, but they are either sons of immigrants or immigrants themselves (from Italy, perhaps a link to WW2?). Perhaps the most outstanding point is that they are working class (plumbers).

The settings that the Mario games are set in are suspiciously based on liberation. Mario 1-4 (Bros. 1, 2, 3 and World) are placed in a world that is lead by [the head of state] Princess Peach. Her "people" are mushrooms, or the mushroom-people, or something. But one day, an evil dragon/turtle named [I]Koopa (note here that if you remove one "o", and place two dots over the other, it will spell Köpa - Swedish for "buy") and corrupts the land. The army (the turtles, gombas, flowers etc) naturally defends this new dictator, who does what - exploit the people and thier land for his own purposes.

What is more interesting is that Koopa, later on known as Bowser (the Boss-er) have 7 kids, who in SMB 3 and SM World takes control of different parts of the world - making them what? Client states. Naturally, all these kids come from the rich Bowser, all are ruthless, and all answer to him.

Not convinced? Then how do you explain the overtly socially liberal views of the heroes? Or the symbols?

For example, how many people have you seen walk around with their first letter printed on their hats? They obviously symbolizes Marx and Lenin (Lenin was a follower of Marx, just like Luigi is the follower of Mario). What about Mario's overtly red suit and his Maoist-looking hat? What about Luigi's overtly environmental-looking suit (green and blue)? Or the combination of ML - Marxism-Leninism?

Don't forget their working class, immigrant-to-the-US background, plus Mario being a little chubby, Luigi little taller than the average person, mouschtage (like Marx (chubby) and Lenin (taller than average)) - certainly not the usual muscular action-prone gun-freak blue-eyed blonde American Rambo, would you say?

What about the items they use? Mushrooms that makes them bigger, flowers that makes them magically shoot fire, and feathers that makes them fly? Ever thought about the symbolism of Mario and Luigi defeating ghosts throughout the games? And turtle-skelletons (the dead soldiers, you know, the whole thing about "they died in wane for their country" stuff, about soldiers honour and the flag and all that).

But hey, what about the money Mario and Luigi collects? Obviously, as you collect a sum of them, you recieve points (and extra lives later on - an obvious symbol for taxing the rich to give a sustained life to the poor - again social democracy). Besides, who in their right mind would keep going to a magical world and risk one's life after collecting such a huge sum of money? Obviously, the money is returned or given away, after the defeat of Bowser, to rebuild the infrastructure of the occupied country.

Mario and Luigi is overtly anti-gun-law, as they use physical force (martial arts - not typical Western) and magic (the theories of Marxism), while the enemies use canons, airships, boats, panzer-tanks and hide in their expensively huge castles (all Western European and American inventions of war). Also note that Mario saves the Princess at last, choosing instead to liberate the people firts, indicating that the Princess isn't a VIP or a very rich person, let alone underscoring her real political power, who needs to be saved first, but also hinting on the non-sexist nature of the Mario brothers.

But what happens when Bowser/Koopa is defeated? Mario and Luigi saves the princess, Mario gets a kiss on the cheek, and leaving a world where they could abuse their fame and newly gained political power, they go back to "our world". They then re-appear in the sequel, answering the call of the [mushroom]people, still as plumbers (again, they didn't use the money they collected) - again pointing out the brothers' strong working class characteristics.

What other liberation games do you really need? :)
hehe, reminds me of this: http://www.88by31.com/flashman/thepeoplesmario.swf

In Soviet Mushroom Land, goomba stomps on you! :D

(although I don't think Stalin would stomp on turtles to rescue princesses)

[thinkerOFthoughts]

In Rise of Nations you can eventually become a Socialist nation who's patriot (leader you can use) is called "The Comrade" first despotism, then Monarchy, then Socialism. or you can become a Capitalist whos patriot is called "The CEO":lol:

[Angry Young Man]

Metal Gear Solid series. Primarily CND sentiment, but every time I play while watching the cut scenes, I pick up on things that seem socialistic. The best example is the end of the Tanker scene in 2, where Gurlukovich says 'land, friends dignity! All sold to the highest bidder: the United States of America!'

Plus Snake is something of a rebel warrior. :blushing:

[ComradeOm]

(although I don't think Stalin would stomp on turtles to rescue princesses)Stalin would stomp the turtles because those counter-revolutionary kulaks needed to be stomped!

[eisidisirock]

In little big planet there are some Soviet inspired level at the last part. Red Stars and stuff :)

[Bitter Ashes]

In CIV 3, you could set your goverment to communist once it was researched and it offered you bonsues such as drasticly reducing corruption and waste evenly across all of your cities and reasonable methods of defense, research and entertainment. It did hit you a little in your treasury though, despite you making some savings from beating corruption and your population took a bit of a hit when you first change over (not sure what they were suggesting with that one).

[eisidisirock]

Oh, And in Sid Mayers: Sivilaction Revelution ( I, Think that's the name)
You can be Mao.

[#FF0000]

In CIV 3, you could set your goverment to communist once it was researched and it offered you bonsues such as drasticly reducing corruption and waste evenly across all of your cities and reasonable methods of defense, research and entertainment. It did hit you a little in your treasury though, despite you making some savings from beating corruption and your population took a bit of a hit when you first change over (not sure what they were suggesting with that one).

Yeah the same in Civ 4, except without the population loss. Communism was flat-out the best civic in the game, I think.

[hugsandmarxism]

Metal Gear Solid series. Primarily CND sentiment, but every time I play while watching the cut scenes, I pick up on things that seem socialistic. The best example is the end of the Tanker scene in 2, where Gurlukovich says 'land, friends dignity! All sold to the highest bidder: the United States of America!'

Plus Snake is something of a rebel warrior. :blushing:

I think I mentioned MGS earlier in this thread, but year, MGS ftw. :thumbup1:

[ComradeOm]

Communism has been present in all Civ games since, at least, CivII. Originally it suffered no corruption at all but from CivIII onwards the distance factor is merely removed from the corruption calculations (although I recall this being horribly bugged in the release version of CivIII). Typically this (plus free units per city) makes it a good choice for expansionist empires while Democracy is preferred for concentrated and economic-focused civs

[eisidisirock]

RED ALERT! :laugh:

Probably, Sayd before.

Oh!

Goldeneye 007 (Best game ever)
/wiki/Category:Cold_War_video_games
wiki/Category:Vietnam_War_video_games

[Cumannach]

Did anyone mention Abe's Odysee. That was pretty anti-capitalist. Some beautiful artwork in it too.

[Bitter Ashes]

Oh yeah! The Mullocks! (sp?) I loved that game :)
I did also remember that the CIV games did claim to have an anarchy goverment type too while you were in the middle of a goverment change and that one bieng less than kind. No production, no commerce, total waste and corruption, no research, no entertainment and no rioting in the streets is rife with your own city improvements bieng destroyed by the angry mobs. Not a very positive image tbh.

[diome]

The Sims!:D

Well, it doesn't have any socialist themes... But everything is how you want to play. There's loads of stuff in the internet one can download for free for The Sims. Even from the official game site, which also has links to other download sites.

With cheat codes, various downloadable items and patches/hacks one can make the sims live in various ways. The only big problem I've had with the game is how jealous the sims are. But there's a patch for even that (can be downloaded, not an official patch, but a hacked thing).

My sims village is more like a sexually liberated anarchist community. A bit depending on what kind of families I've created - but they often tend to find other sides in their personality, like potential bisexuality in a sim who thought him/herself to be a nice and straight nuclear family parent.:thumbup:

[Bitter Ashes]

I thought all Sims were bisexual in the first place. I do know what you mean about the jealousy though. Totaly prevents the possibility of them bieng polyamourous.

[Dr Mindbender]

The Sims!:D

Well, it doesn't have any socialist themes... But everything is how you want to play. There's loads of stuff in the internet one can download for free for The Sims. Even from the official game site, which also has links to other download sites.

With cheat codes, various downloadable items and patches/hacks one can make the sims live in various ways. The only big problem I've had with the game is how jealous the sims are. But there's a patch for even that (can be downloaded, not an official patch, but a hacked thing).

My sims village is more like a sexually liberated anarchist community. A bit depending on what kind of families I've created - but they often tend to find other sides in their personality, like potential bisexuality in a sim who thought him/herself to be a nice and straight nuclear family parent.:thumbup:

I find whats most socialistic about the sims is that it clearly is an abundancy society.

they can go on the internet, or read the newspaper and get a job immediately without having as so much to make an application, sign on for welfare or get shortlisted for an interview. I mean, whats all that about?
:confused:

[KurtFF8]

I don't mean to sound rude, but this thread wasn't about games other than ones that have to do with socialism to some extent, not a thread about "Well this game has nothing to do with socialism but...etc." That's what chit chat is for. I.e. I don't see what the Sims have to do with "socialism in gaming" (Hence this thread not being in Chit Chat)

[Dr Mindbender]

I don't mean to sound rude, but this thread wasn't about games other than ones that have to do with socialism to some extent, not a thread about "Well this game has nothing to do with socialism but...etc." That's what chit chat is for. I.e. I don't see what the Sims have to do with "socialism in gaming" (Hence this thread not being in Chit Chat)

i think this thread was hijacked by the thread pirates loooong before the sims were even mentioned, to be fair.

[KurtFF8]

Indeed, but I was just kind of jumping in now since I haven't done so yet.

[Dr.Claw]

One that I remember was called "State of Emergency" for ps2. You go around and kill corporate enforcers.

[MikeSC]

Good call with "Abes Oddyssey". You're a worker- the cigar-smoking suit-wearing loss-making capitalists are the villains- and to win you have to liberate the other workers (who have had their eyes/lips sewn together and things..depending on what their particular job is...)

It's awesome.

Also- Final Fantasy 7 is quite eco-socialist.

[Invincible Summer]

Would pretty much any Star Wars game be somewhat socialist, as the Rebels fight against a totalitarian Empire?

I'm not sure how to interpret the CIS/Republic thing though..

[ibn Bruce]

In TF2 all the Heavy's achievements are 'Red' themed.

In Defcon you can play as CCCP and China in a Nuclear War.. one of the most disturbing games ever. 'Your missile hits Washington, 2 million dead'

In Half Life 2 you lead a revolution as the 'Free Man'. In the mod 'Insurgency' you fight against the USMC. Though those are both more the militant than the left side of things.

[Sproule]

Fallout 2 and fallout 1 you do missions the way you want pretty rev if you ask me

[Jack]

Ars Regendi, www.ars-regendi.net (http://www.ars-regendi.net)

Nation simulator where you can enact socialist policies, as well as Central Planning or Anarcho Syndicalism.

[swirling_vortex]

Return to castle wolfenstien is a good game. No socialists are involved, but any game that frags Nazis is a good one in my book. :lol:

[mykittyhasaboner]

Ars Regendi, www.ars-regendi.net (http://www.ars-regendi.net)

Nation simulator where you can enact socialist policies, as well as Central Planning or Anarcho Syndicalism.
Your link is dead.

[KurtFF8]

Your link is dead.

I believe it's www.ars-regendi.com

[Psy]

[/URL]

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria:_An_Empire_Under_the_Sun"]Victoria (http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=2997) - Grand Strategy game about the 19th century. After a while, Marxism becomes popular and the player can usher in a "proletarian democracy".

Not only that but it has the best economic model I ever seen in a game covering basic and luxury commodities.

[Brother No. 1]

Hmm Fallout 3 has Chinese Weapons and equipment and the PRC is what the fac tell us a "Communist country" but thats the only Socialist or related Socialist thing about it. Plus it has some Communists and Socialists in its previous and current games.

[Psy]

One more thing about Victoria there is a nice cheat that allows you to kick off a workers revolution anytime you want, simply enter "event 23100" (without the quotes) in the console screen (hit F12) and the nation your playing will turn into a "proletariat dictatorship".

[an apple]

What about Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis and its expansions Resistance and Red Hammer as well as Armed Assault, all realistic FPSes made by Bohemia Interactive

OFP: Cold War Crisis:
The year is 1985, and Mikhail Gorbachev has come to power in the USSR. While his Glasnost and Perestroikare reforms are welcomed by western governments, there are communist hardliners in his own government that are unsympathetic to his cause.
One of these men, a fanatic hardline general named Aleksei Guba, is determined to bring down Gorbachev and make himself the next leader of the Soviet Union.

Guba commands an army on the island base of Kolgujev. Nearby is Everon; an independent republic, and Malden; another republic which has a strong NATO presence. Guba invades Everon, crushes the militia force there, and secretly plans to take the war to the Americans.

The NATO presence on Malden, under the command of the American Colonel Blake, moves in to investigate the loss of contact with Everon, and reports an invasion by an 'unknown hostile force'. When a helicopter of troops sent to investigate doesn't return, Blake orders a full scale invasion of Everon, not knowing about the Soviets, and the deadly conflict that would lie ahead.

OFP: Resistance:
Another add-on, Resistance, is set three years before the events of the two preceding games. The player takes the role of an ex-Special Operations soldier, Victor Troska, who has returned to his homeland of Nogova after years in exile serving with British Special Forces. During the first introductory mission to the campaign, the island is invaded by the Soviet Union. Initially, Troska refuses to have any part in the fighting and ignores the persuasion of the Resistance pioneers, despite feeling guilty and helpless as his countrymen are massacred by the Russian invaders. One day, a seriously wounded guerilla takes refuge in Troska's barn with Russian troops on his heels. Troska has virtually no choice but to lead a ramshackle uprising, and the player must use his/her resourcefulness to salvage weapons and ammunition from fallen enemies to supplement supplies which are continually available at later stages in the campaign. The expansion pack also updates the graphics, sounds, and multiplayer mechanics.

OFP: Red Hammer:
An add-on campaign Red Hammer, which was developed by Codemasters, depicts the same conflict, but places the player in the role of a Russian soldier, Dmitri Lukin, rather than an American soldier. During the course of the campaign, Lukin switches from his steadfast fight against American forces to battling his own countrymen in order to pave the way for an American take-over of the island. There are a few vehicles added, including the AH-64 Apache, BMP-2. The save game system was altered significantly, making reverting to a previous level impossible. Lukin had been a Spetsnaz in Afghanistan but was demoted to Private and shipped to the regular army for insubordination. During the course of the Red Hammer campaign he is put in command of a squad, promoted to Sergeant, drives tanks, flies helicopters and eventually gets promoted to Lieutenant and assigned back to Spetsnaz.

Armed Assault:
The campaign in Armed Assault takes place on the fictional Atlantic island of Sahrani, a nation which is divided into a northern communist regime (called Democratic Republic of Sahrani - DRS) and an oil rich southern democracycalled Kingdom of South Sahrani. The narrative begins with United States forces, after a few months of training in the south, leaving. The northern leader uses this moment of weakness to attack the rest of the island. The player takes on the role of one soldier in one of the platoons not rotated off the island before the conflict began. The platoons aid the Royal Army Corps of Sahrani (RACS) in fending off the larger and more powerful neighbour's offensive being spearheaded by the Sahrani Liberation Army (SLA, referred to as "slags" as slang by soldiers in the game).

[Psy]

I was thinking has anyone ever though of modding Victoria to be more Marxist? For example the 50% tax across the board for proletariat dictatorships seems out of place in Victoria, there also is no real advantage to being a proletariat dictatorship not even in immigration (working wanting to move to the workers state over other nations).

[ComradeOm]

I was thinking has anyone ever though of modding Victoria to be more Marxist?It should be fairly straightforward. All the Paradox games are extremely moddable. This (http://www.paradoxian.org/vickywiki/index.php/Mods_and_Modding) is probably the best place to start looking


For example the 50% tax across the board for proletariat dictatorships seems out of place in Victoria, there also is no real advantage to being a proletariat dictatorship not even in immigration (working wanting to move to the workers state over other nations).Aside from the immigration thing (which is historical) keep in mind that Vicky's engine is far from perfect. The tax rate, for example, is really just to represent the increased distribution of wealth in an abstract way

IIRC the big advantage of Proletarian Dictatorships, although it has been a long time since I played, is that militancy can be controlled by keeping your plurality to a minimum, a la absolute monarchies. It takes a bit of planning of course but that control can be useful

[Psy]

It should be fairly straightforward. All the Paradox games are extremely moddable. This (http://www.paradoxian.org/vickywiki/index.php/Mods_and_Modding) is probably the best place to start looking

Aside from the immigration thing (which is historical) keep in mind that Vicky's engine is far from perfect. The tax rate, for example, is really just to represent the increased distribution of wealth in an abstract way

The problem it is across the board meaning you have a minimum of 50% tax for the poor as well. If you could set the tax for poor and middle class lower (in a proletariat dictatorship) then it would better represent an increased distribution of wealth.



IIRC the big advantage of Proletarian Dictatorships, although it has been a long time since I played, is that militancy can be controlled by keeping your plurality to a minimum, a la absolute monarchies. It takes a bit of planning of course but that control can be useful
If you are really trying to be a workers state in Victoria your militancy would be lowered by social reforms and meeting demand anyway and your only militancy issue would be if you don't have enough exports for the poor to meet their needs and pay the 50% tax. It also pails in comparison to getting the socialists in power instead with their state-capitalism were you have a minimum of twenty percent tax across the board thus the tax burden for the poor far can be far less.

[ComradeOm]

Oh yes, now I remember what the big issue with Proletarian Dictatorships was. You actually need your POPs to have high militancy because as soon as their militancy subsides they switch from communist to socialist. Its effectively impossible to keep a large percentage of your population both communist and satisfied :lol:

[Psy]

Oh yes, now I remember what the big issue with Proletarian Dictatorships was. You actually need your POPs to have high militancy because as soon as their militancy subsides they switch from communist to socialist. Its effectively impossible to keep a large percentage of your population both communist and satisfied :lol:
That and they made socialism the better system, you still can build industry (and expand) and railways without needing those pesky capitalists (you can even tax them out of existence) yet have more freedom in taxes and since you are a democracy you get immigration meaning it is actually easier to build a workers state in Victoria with socialism rather the communism.

[swirling_vortex]

http://www.videlectrix.com/wheresanegg.html

:D

[Psy]

After playing more Victoria I also noticed free-markets are useless in Victoria:Revolutions as the player can make far more efficient economies, I wonder if that was just by mistake.

[ComradeOm]

After playing more Victoria I also noticed free-markets are useless in Victoria:Revolutions as the player can make far more efficient economies, I wonder if that was just by mistake.Partly its a balancing issue and partly its flaws within the algorithm used to dictate what factories capis will build. You can almost always build a more efficient economy with a state capitalist government but don't write off laissez faire - personally I find it extremely useful for a nation just beginning to industrialise. It only really loses its shine in the mid to late game when you do need strategic, but unprofitable, products such as tanks or planes

[Brother No. 1]

Hearts of Iron 1 +2. Basicly a World War 2 game where you can change coruse of history and have Socialism in the game.

[Psy]

Partly its a balancing issue and partly its flaws within the algorithm used to dictate what factories capis will build. You can almost always build a more efficient economy with a state capitalist government but don't write off laissez faire - personally I find it extremely useful for a nation just beginning to industrialise. It only really loses its shine in the mid to late game when you do need strategic, but unprofitable, products such as tanks or planes

That if you nation has capitalists, if you don't you'd have any capitalists to pay to upgrade clerks to capitalists. Also they can also build factories in their state meaning if you have surplus farmer in another state, I've actually gone through some games of Victoria without ever having a single capitalist that helps greatly when going socialists later on as there is no upper class in the nation to become militant.

[ComradeOm]

That if you nation has capitalists, if you don't you'd have any capitalists to pay to upgrade clerks to capitalists. Also they can also build factories in their state meaning if you have surplus farmer in another state, I've actually gone through some games of Victoria without ever having a single capitalist that helps greatly when going socialists later on as there is no upper class in the nation to become militant.Even without an initial capi POP I would still consider it worthwhile to switch to laissez faire in the early game. The initial cost of promoting clerks is indeed steep, for a poor nation at least, but it will eventually pay off. Not only will your capis build factories within their own state (which makes their location of some importance) but they'll also expand your rail network (usually a major financial burden) at no cost to you

Now switching to socialist at a later date is generally considered preferable but I wouldn't rate capi militancy as a major concern. Generally you'll have so few of them in the first place (and revolt risk is calculated on a POP count basis, making the actual size of the POP irrelevant) that its not a huge problem. The POPs you really want to watch out for are the clerks who are also liberal by default

[Psy]

World in Conflict (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_in_conflict) - RTS. I believe players can play as Soviets. I also believe that the expansion has a Soviet story line.

I played the Soviet expansion to World in Conflict and it really is simply the U.S.S.R opens up peace talks with NATO in 1988 in face of its economic crisis yet when faced with NATO dragging its feet in 1989 the USSR launches a preemptive strike against NATO.

[Vahanian]

:confused: I was wondering if anyone has played red faction 3 and if it has more socialist cocepts or ideas then the other 2

[hugsandmarxism]

:confused: I was wondering if anyone has played red faction 3 and if it has more socialist cocepts or ideas then the other 2

Well... you kill some corporate executives, lead a revolutionary struggle of the martian working class, and battle the powers of imperial capital repression... but this is more of a gimmick than anything. No real politics, other than "fuck them, let's revolt!" It's more of a gimmick than anything. No real criticism about the capitalist system itself, but nonetheless, it's a fun romp that leftists will find particularly satisfying.

[BabylonHoruv]

I thought all Sims were bisexual in the first place. I do know what you mean about the jealousy though. Totaly prevents the possibility of them bieng polyamourous.


polyamourous sims just take a bit more careful management.

[mykittyhasaboner]

Well... you kill some corporate executives, lead a revolutionary struggle of the martian working class, and battle the powers of imperial capital repression... but this is more of a gimmick than anything. No real politics, other than "fuck them, let's revolt!" It's more of a gimmick than anything. No real criticism about the capitalist system itself, but nonetheless, it's a fun romp that leftists will find particularly satisfying.

Definitely fun. I was disappointed with it's lack of politics and that it was more like "fuck them, lets revolt"; and given the fact that it was a vaguely political game to begin with ('Red Faction') I thought they would at least go a bit in-depth, all though they did a a good job at making the EDF look shitty and oppressive.

Not many game developers delve into politics unfortunately, it was a shame that Red Faction didn't raise the bar a bit, or at least live up to the political undertones of other games like GTA4 for example. Oh well, it's still effing fun.

[Jack]

http://www.videlectrix.com/wheresanegg.html

:D

What.....the......hell?

[Woland]

http://www.videlectrix.com/wheresanegg.html

:D

Hey I won :lol:

http://usera.imagecave.com/GM_k/win1.png.jpg


But the rest of you...


http://usera.imagecave.com/GM_k/noes1.png.jpg

[amandevsingh]

haha we play that on 2 player obesessively, i can't get past level 12

Killing Nazis are Fun!! In Video Game Form, mind you. Alone I can get to 13 at most, two people I got to round 18


(like Marx (chubby) and Lenin (taller than average))

Lenin was pretty short I had thought, like 5'4" :confused:

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

I won that by shooting some little kid at random. He had an egg.

[Manifesto]

Stalin vs. Martians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU67r0-QgZs

[MarxSchmarx]

Stalin vs. Martians. MU67r0-QgZs

Looks pretty boring. I was surprised somebody actually thought they could make money off of this, the poor programmers what a chore this must have been. Hopefully I'm proven wrong.

[KurtFF8]

According to Wiki, it's supposed to be mocking WWII RTS games. Although the reviews seem to not know that fact.

[Dóchas]

a great left wing video game out at the moment is Red Faction:Guerilla got it a couple of days ago and its awsome!!!!!

[DecDoom]

Mother 3 for the Game Boy Advance. It's all in Japanese, so I'll explain the plot.

Basically, the entire meaning behind the game is that capitalism is evil and will cause the destruction of humanity unless something is done about it. The game takes place on an island aptly named "Nowhere Island." There's only one town on the entire island, and it's a communist paradise. There's no monetary system, and goods are distributed according to necessity. Each citizen has a job that corresponds to whatever skills they have. There's a builder, a baker, a shopkeeper (who also works as a fireman), an innkeeper, etc. In short, it's the ideal society realized.

Then, an army of fascists invades (they come from an unknown location, they weren't on the island before). Aptly enough, they're known as the Pig Masks, named for their distinctive helmets (they even salute Nazi-style). Through the use of force and coercion, they dominate the island. They introduce capitalism to the town (in the way of money), and hypnotize most of the townsfolk by way of a TV-like device. Those who resist have "bad fortune" fall upon them in the form of seemingly random lighting strikes (in actuality, a gigantic tower with a lightning cannon mounted to it).

At the height of fascist control, the town is a shell of its former self. There's a wealthy upper class, consisting of a single family, while much of the town lives in poverty, something they hadn't even known the existence of prior to the invasion.

While this is all happening, the leader of the fascists is seeking out 7 Needles, which, if pulled, summon an ancient dragon (I think it was a dragon) that will do the bidding of whoever awakes it. His ultimate goal is no less than the total destruction of the island and its inhabitants (the reason being "bored, and needed something to do"). So, as the heroes, consisting of a kid, a middle aged man with a limp, a tomboy, and a dog, you have to prevent the dictator from carrying out his plot.

At the end of the game, when you pull the final needle, the dragon awakens and destroys all traces of the fascist control on the island.

[Manifesto]

Looks pretty boring. I was surprised somebody actually thought they could make money off of this, the poor programmers what a chore this must have been. Hopefully I'm proven wrong.
No it got a pretty bad rating by everything it was just the only thing that I could think of.

[amandevsingh]

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/stalinvsmartians/index.html?tag=result;title;0

"Do not buy, or even look, at this mangled wreck of a strategy game"

[KurtFF8]

Hearts of Iron III is now out (one can be the USSR and other Socialist Camp nations I believe) which includes economic planning.

[Janine Melnitz]

Mother 3 for the Game Boy Advance. It's all in Japanese, so I'll explain the plot.
NB: a Game Boy Advance emulator for your computer and a fan-translated copy of Mother 3 are pretty easy to get a hold of with just a tiny bit of googling

[Dr Mindbender]

a great left wing video game out at the moment is Red Faction:Guerilla got it a couple of days ago and its awsome!!!!!

ive got the 'demons of the badlands' expansion pack, its pretty good so far!

:thumbup1:

[KurtFF8]

The Tropico 3 Demo is out now.

I can't play it on my computer though :(

[mykittyhasaboner]

ive got the 'demons of the badlands' expansion pack, its pretty good so far!

:thumbup1:
I have to fix my Xbox before I can get that, damn. Does it give you new maps/weapons etc?

[tehpevis]

I remember seeing on this forum a while back (summer '08; last time I posted regularly here) an idea for a Red Video Game. Someone suggested a title of "Under the Red Banner".

[Tatarin]

Does someone remember Devastation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devastation_(video_game))? That would be the ultimate revolutionary game, even more than Red Faction.

The plot is that in the near-future, the earth is ruled by a big corporation. You assemble your team, and the mission is to liberate the world.

It didn't do very well, and the story development could have been more. Also, the fact that you have a whole team of numb NPC's to protect makes the whole thing harder. But it's always worth a look if you ever find it (it's from 2003).

Another game is Freedom Fighters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Fighters_(video_game)) which is basically a counterrevolutionary game. Evil Soviet Union takes the whole US and the day after you form a band that fights them. It wouldn't take much to mod the game, the whole thing is there: start as one person who amass thousands as the game goes, and the missions are pretty realistic (as in what revolutionaries would do in a revolution). In fact, much of the voices could be replaced, the flags and such, and retexturing of the troops and voices, and you'd have a communist game instead. :D

[Dr Mindbender]

I have to fix my Xbox before I can get that, damn. Does it give you new maps/weapons etc?

It lets you play as Sam, the Red Faction engineer.

There are new missions set several years before Mason arrives on Mars.

[Partizani]

I just skimmed through but it seems as though everyone has forgotten Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45 Possibily the most realistic ww2 shooter ive ever played, the tank combat is nigh on simulator levels. No Crosshairs- EVER, use iron sights or hope that your hip shot hits. Loads of different tank types, 3 man crews on average (team tanking is extremely fun) and with the its major mod 'Darkest Hour: Europe 44-45' the level of realism goes up a few notches.

Only downfall is the high level of neo-nazifanboys in the axis 'realism' community, who go around making videos of mock ethnic cleansing executiosn. Blatantly harbour scumfronters and are all round not very nice people. Most common under the guise of being 'SS' units.

If you play this game and want a nice socialist clan to join, check us out
http://www.invasionx.com/193/

[Dr Mindbender]

Nazi fags.

*sigh*.

[Partizani]

My bad, having a rather homophobic family that phrase is used alot so unfortunatly in my vocabulary.

[Dr Mindbender]

My bad, having a rather homophobic family that phrase is used alot so unfortunatly in my vocabulary.

just be grateful i spotted that before a mod did.

[Psy]

Soviet Economic Simulator has been taken down, what is wrong with us it is 2009 and we went from two Marxist games (Hidden Agenda and Soviet Economic Simulator) down to one. Where are the Marxist programmers? Even the environmentalists pwnz us in the terms of shear number of experimental games.

I would love to see something like the BBC's Climate Change Game (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/hottopics/climatechange/climate_challenge/) but Marxist as I find the card system simple thus should be easy to program and easier for the gamers to understand then the budgets of Soviet Economic Simulator.

[Psy]

Okay how could I miss this, I just found Kosmosis (http://www.molleindustria.org/kosmosis/kosmosis.html) by Molleindustria where you approach space prolets to turn them revolutionary then you can attack reactionary centers all in a nice simple space action type game.

[Tyrlop]

PERESTROIKA - Dos game about Gorbachov reforms

[ponyfang]

As stated World in conflict all the way. I mean if you guys are really into a game like that its a go. I have a clan on the massgate servers. just go to clans and look up "Hammers of the people"

[Kayser_Soso]

It looks like a good game, but I for one am sick of all these WWIII scenarios that always assume that the Warsaw Pact would be on the offensive. NATO had offensive plans for Eastern Europe.

[ComradeOm]

It looks like a good game, but I for one am sick of all these WWIII scenarios that always assume that the Warsaw Pact would be on the offensive. NATO had offensive plans for Eastern Europe.Both sides planned to take the offensive in the case of aggression from the other. The logic being that the best defence is a good offense. This was particularly true in the case of the Soviets

[ponyfang]

It looks like a good game, but I for one am sick of all these WWIII scenarios that always assume that the Warsaw Pact would be on the offensive. NATO had offensive plans for Eastern Europe.
True WWIII scenarios are get stale. Plus they seem to always make the bad guys the soviets etc. it gets me annoyed when i go to the store and cant pick up a game where instead of playing the USA defending it would be the capitalism vrs socialism socialism bewing the defender seeing how most gamers that make communism inspired games often make em the bad guys. I say we need an IRA inspired game out there.

[Kayser_Soso]

True WWIII scenarios are get stale. Plus they seem to always make the bad guys the soviets etc. it gets me annoyed when i go to the store and cant pick up a game where instead of playing the USA defending it would be the capitalism vrs socialism socialism bewing the defender seeing how most gamers that make communism inspired games often make em the bad guys. I say we need an IRA inspired game out there.

This is true, seeing as how historicall the US was far more aggressive in the world than the Soviets were.

[ponyfang]

This is true, seeing as how historicall the US was far more aggressive in the world than the Soviets were.
Here is another one. If you have played Starcraft you may have noticed that in teh original playing as the terran you start a revolution. its not typically socialist or any of the other ists but teh thought of playing out a revolution keeps me hooked.

[Robespierre2.0]

Here is another one. If you have played Starcraft you may have noticed that in teh original playing as the terran you start a revolution. its not typically socialist or any of the other ists but teh thought of playing out a revolution keeps me hooked.

The Sons of Korhal were nationalist, and Arcturus Mengsk was a bonapartist intent on establishing an empire. Perhaps the story could be interpreted as another cheesy 'power corrupts' message a la Animal Farm, with Mengsk representing Stalin.

On the other hand, taking that comparison further, it could be argued that Arcturus is in fact the good guy, and his sacrifice of Kerrigan and use of the zerg against the confederates could be viewed as tough decisions that had to be made. After all, humanity was being threatened by two alien races, and since the current hegemonic government wasn't taking the threat seriously, they had to be overthrown as swift as possible for the survival of the species.

On the other, other hand, the zerg are the most progressive. I mean look at them- though they come in many different mutations, they all share the same basic DNA, and they all live in complete harmony. Trotskyites might complain that overlords are a bureaucratic degeneration- that don't pull their weight, hovering up in the air, giving orders while the other zerg do the dirty work. However, as they are fully committed to the overmind, and play as vital a purpose as another other member of the hive, so I think that's an unfair criticism.
Also, unlike the other species, you don't see zerg killing each other in pointless resource wars. The stereotype that zerg are bloodthirsty killers is nothing but terran propaganda.

[The Vegan Marxist]

I though the game "Just Cause" had a real socialist leaning to it - game play wise that is. But the history behind the true story is different altogether - especially for us communist/socialist supporters.

[KurtFF8]

I though the game "Just Cause" had a real socialist leaning to it - game play wise that is. But the history behind the true story is different altogether - especially for us communist/socialist supporters.

You mean the game where the main character is designed after the CIA agent who helped get Che killed?

This was already brought up earlier as being a counter-revolutionary game.

[cska]

The Sons of Korhal were nationalist, and Arcturus Mengsk was a bonapartist intent on establishing an empire. Perhaps the story could be interpreted as another cheesy 'power corrupts' message a la Animal Farm, with Mengsk representing Stalin.

On the other hand, taking that comparison further, it could be argued that Arcturus is in fact the good guy, and his sacrifice of Kerrigan and use of the zerg against the confederates could be viewed as tough decisions that had to be made. After all, humanity was being threatened by two alien races, and since the current hegemonic government wasn't taking the threat seriously, they had to be overthrown as swift as possible for the survival of the species.

On the other, other hand, the zerg are the most progressive. I mean look at them- though they come in many different mutations, they all share the same basic DNA, and they all live in complete harmony. Trotskyites might complain that overlords are a bureaucratic degeneration- that don't pull their weight, hovering up in the air, giving orders while the other zerg do the dirty work. However, as they are fully committed to the overmind, and play as vital a purpose as another other member of the hive, so I think that's an unfair criticism.
Also, unlike the other species, you don't see zerg killing each other in pointless resource wars. The stereotype that zerg are bloodthirsty killers is nothing but terran propaganda.

Nice interpretation. Go Zergs!!!!

[MarxSchmarx]

SimCity Societies has a building called a "Redistribution Center", where "from each Sim, according to their abilities, and to each, according to their needs". The building incidently increases the happiness of the city residents :laugh:

[The Red Next Door]

You mean the game where the main character is designed after the CIA agent who helped get Che killed?

This was already brought up earlier as being a counter-revolutionary game.
really?

[The Red Next Door]

state of emergency is a cool leftist game.

[Pirate Utopian]

Got Tropico 3 yesterday, good stuff, ofcourse, it's only as leftist as you play it.

[Psy]

Got Tropico 3 yesterday, good stuff, of course, it's only as leftist as you play it.

In the original you could only be a capitalist export nation with some social welfare (there really was not even much of a domestic market) how does Tropico 3 differ?

[pierrotlefou]

The Sons of Korhal were nationalist, and Arcturus Mengsk was a bonapartist intent on establishing an empire. Perhaps the story could be interpreted as another cheesy 'power corrupts' message a la Animal Farm, with Mengsk representing Stalin.

On the other hand, taking that comparison further, it could be argued that Arcturus is in fact the good guy, and his sacrifice of Kerrigan and use of the zerg against the confederates could be viewed as tough decisions that had to be made. After all, humanity was being threatened by two alien races, and since the current hegemonic government wasn't taking the threat seriously, they had to be overthrown as swift as possible for the survival of the species.

On the other, other hand, the zerg are the most progressive. I mean look at them- though they come in many different mutations, they all share the same basic DNA, and they all live in complete harmony. Trotskyites might complain that overlords are a bureaucratic degeneration- that don't pull their weight, hovering up in the air, giving orders while the other zerg do the dirty work. However, as they are fully committed to the overmind, and play as vital a purpose as another other member of the hive, so I think that's an unfair criticism.
Also, unlike the other species, you don't see zerg killing each other in pointless resource wars. The stereotype that zerg are bloodthirsty killers is nothing but terran propaganda.
ahhhhhahahaha that is the best post i've ever seen.

[Comrade_Stalin]

In the original you could only be a capitalist export nation with some social welfare (there really was not even much of a domestic market) how does Tropico 3 differ?

Tropico 3 has better graphics, a road system with cars, elections that are too easy to win, and avatar, that can help you out. Other wise, it mostly the same game from before. It is still a nice model for communism, as food, health care, cars, ...... and god are free.

[Pirate Utopian]

If you want housing can be free as well.

[Comrade_Stalin]

If you want housing can be free as well.

you can also make the entertainment free by putting the price to zero.

Also I would like to add the following two games list

Haze: one of the factions is "The Promise Hand" rebel group that fights against a multinational corporation

Frontline fuel of war: One side is the Red Star Alliance made up of the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of china. Must of the time The Red Star acts in a very communist way, thougth they do not state it.

[Tatarin]

By the way, was "Battlezone" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlezone_(1998_video_game)) ever mentioned? It's an FPS-strategy game about a secret war in the solar system between the American NSDF (National Space Defence Force) and the Soviet CCA (Cosmic Colonist Army) who fight over an almost magical alien material which has allowed humaity to produce all kinds of Star Wars-like machines. The game takes place in the 1970's, and just as C&C: Red Alert the CCA is portrayed as mean, selfish and plainly evil compared to the good hearted NSDF. And the CCA-campaign is really just add-on missions complementing the NSDF-campaign which tells the story, which is quite sad.

There is also the add-on package ("Red Odyssey") in where the Chinese kind of replaces the Soviets. Then there were a sequel ("Battlezone 2" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlezone_II:_Combat_Commander)) but in that game the Soviet and American forces joined into a new organization and battles "aliens" instead.

[Comrade_Stalin]

yes I have played the second game, and in that case, the aliens are the good guys. But this is a very good and very old game.

[bayano]

One that I remember was called "State of Emergency" for ps2. You go around and kill corporate enforcers.


Props. This is an important one for two connected reasons. It was looslely based on the Seattle WTO protests. And because of its anticapitalist violence (even after Grand Theft Auto) it's the game that caused US Congress to make video game ratings systems laws, i.e. that games rated M couldn't be sold to minors. All the brutality and cruel violence in video games up to that point hadn't been enough.

It, Che Guevara, and the Red Faction series are my favorites. I've also played Tropico 1 and used to like it.

I think there's at least one Viet Nam war game that you can play at a Northern Vietnamese or NLF in.

[Kayser_Soso]

Props. This is an important one for two connected reasons. It was looslely based on the Seattle WTO protests. And because of its anticapitalist violence (even after Grand Theft Auto) it's the game that caused US Congress to make video game ratings systems laws, i.e. that games rated M couldn't be sold to minors. All the brutality and cruel violence in video games up to that point hadn't been enough.

It, Che Guevara, and the Red Faction series are my favorites. I've also played Tropico 1 and used to like it.

I think there's at least one Viet Nam war game that you can play at a Northern Vietnamese or NLF in.


Don't mean to be a dick but those ratings existed LONG before State of Emergency. And while the enemies were supposed to be capitalist, their logo was a red star.

[The Vegan Marxist]

They should make a Call of Duty game for the Vietnam war, & allow which side you'd like to be on. Of course I'd be with the Guerrilla Army of Vietnam :thumbup1:

[Imposter Marxist]

They should make a Call of Duty game for the Vietnam war, & allow which side you'd like to be on. Of course I'd be with the Guerrilla Army of Vietnam :thumbup1:

Me too! i'd also like to see a game based in the Spanish Revolution.

[RedScare]

If you guys ever play Hearts of Iron 2, and get the Kaiserreich mod, it has the most awesome chance to play as a wide variety of socialists. I highly recommend it.

[Ryke]

If you guys ever play Hearts of Iron 2, and get the Kaiserreich mod, it has the most awesome chance to play as a wide variety of socialists. I highly recommend it.

I've played Kaiserreich a lot, it's probably the best HoI2 mod out there. I do like how the far left is much less authoritarian ("syndicalism" is the most common far-left position, with Radical Socialist and Bolshevik positions also existing, unlike vanilla HoI2's Leninist, Left-Wing Radical and Stalinist positions). The game's policy sliders don't adequately represent anarcho-syndicalism and other decentralised, democratic socialist systems, but to be fair, I'm not sure any amount of name-changing can make them both accurate and coherent. At any rate, the events and backstory portrays the far-left adequately and the alternate-history scenarios that form are very interesting.

Although, Asia needs more events. Republican China can revolt against the German corporate state in southern China, but it barely has any events or leaders, and it can't be anything but authoritarian, and it has no events. Japan can go either way, but some of the events don't seem to work, so it can only go far-right or centrist, maybe slightly center-left at best. Not even social-democrat, even though one event seems to put social-democrats in power, it doesn't work properly, it seems.

[Uppercut]

I don't know if this one's been mentioned yet, but in Civilization Revolution, you can choose to play as Mao Zedong and develop communism if you want to (along with other govt. systems).

I love invading Abe Lincoln's territories and bring them to communism. lol

[Dr Mindbender]

I don't know if this one's been mentioned yet, but in Civilization Revolution, you can choose to play as Mao Zedong and develop communism if you want to (along with other govt. systems).

I love invading Abe Lincoln's territories and bring them to communism. lol
Yes, i did mention this.

The inclusion of communism is mainly tokenism by the way. If i remember all it means your science level gets 2 extra points and you cant go to war without the consent of your subjects.

[Uppercut]

The inclusion of communism is mainly tokenism by the way. If i remember all it means your science level gets 2 extra points and you cant go to war without the consent of your subjects.

You're science and production go up two points, but culture stops developing.
And you can still declare war whenever you want. Democracy is what you're thinking of.

[Comrade_Stalin]

I went over to gametrailers.com and found out that Metro 2033 will have "old school communist in it". They did not give an information on how these old school communist will act or anything. So it could be a right wing game, but the author is Russain, so it could be a left wing game to.

[Kayser_Soso]

I went over to gametrailers.com and found out that Metro 2033 will have "old school communist in it". They did not give an information on how these old school communist will act or anything. So it could be a right wing game, but the author is Russain, so it could be a left wing game to.

Trust me, in Russia "Communist" usually means right wing.

[Psy]

I don't know if this one's been mentioned yet, but in Civilization Revolution, you can choose to play as Mao Zedong and develop communism if you want to (along with other govt. systems).

I love invading Abe Lincoln's territories and bring them to communism. lol

Alpha Centauri Alien Cross Fire has the fraction Free Drones that is suppose to be a workers state that get +2 production bonus due to being a society of skilled workers thus have advanced knowledge when it comes to industry yet have -2 science penalty that the game explains due to workers having a distaste for blue sky research.

It is fun bringing communism to Alpha Centauri through the might of the Free Drone army as that +2 production bonus means late in the game you can pretty much steam roll over everyone else even with the -2 science penalty.

[Comrade_Stalin]

Trust me, in Russia "Communist" usually means right wing.

So the game will have a bad view of communism?

[BogdanV]

I don't think it has anything left-wing in it, but Mass Effect does a cool job at portraying a capitalist society, complete with corporate abuse and greed (bourgeoise paradises like Noveria or Illium), race discrimination (the way quarians are seen; human-turian animosity), right-wing extremists (Cerberus), police corruption, interest-driven politicians (Udina, the Council) and last but not least, all sorts of ethical problems the game pitches at you.

Indeed, the main idea of saving the galaxy from evil aliens/machines doesn't have any tangent with communism, but the way society is portrayed definitely deserves attention.

[Comrade_Stalin]

Yes Mass Effect is good at that, and there are some games form the US, that make communism look good, as well.

[MarxSchmarx]

I don't think it has anything left-wing in it, but Mass Effect does a cool job at portraying a capitalist society, complete with corporate abuse and greed (bourgeoise paradises like Noveria or Illium), race discrimination (the way quarians are seen; human-turian animosity), right-wing extremists (Cerberus), police corruption, interest-driven politicians (Udina, the Council) and last but not least, all sorts of ethical problems the game pitches at you.

Indeed, the main idea of saving the galaxy from evil aliens/machines doesn't have any tangent with communism, but the way society is portrayed definitely deserves attention.

If that is your idea of a degenerate capitalist game, why don't you play Grand Theft Auto (any version, but the later versions are more cynical)

[The Vegan Marxist]

Stalin Vs. The Martians!!!! :thumbup1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_lZabYCwPY

[#FF0000]

I've played Kaiserreich a lot, it's probably the best HoI2 mod out there. I do like how the far left is much less authoritarian ("syndicalism" is the most common far-left position, with Radical Socialist and Bolshevik positions also existing, unlike vanilla HoI2's Leninist, Left-Wing Radical and Stalinist positions).

Yeah but as a result, there are lot of regular old "vanilla fascists" like Mosley and Mussolini hanging around.

But I got to play as France and had Sartre and Camus as the foreign and army minister fuck yeah.

[Tablo]

Stalin Vs. The Martians!!!! :thumbup1:

R_lZabYCwPY
That was amazing. How much of the game has Stalin dancing because that is all I need.

[The Vegan Marxist]

That was amazing. How much of the game has Stalin dancing because that is all I need.

Not too sure. I haven't played it myself, but from what I've heard, it's got a 50/50 rating on likes & dislikes.

[KurtFF8]

There's an interesting Mod I just found out about (although it's been around for some time) for Civilization IV called "Revolution" where it adds a dynamic of Revolution in the game (And the icon for the "Revolution Watch" is a picture of Che).

So your Civ can become unhappy and start a Revolution, although I'm not too sure if it's possible for there to be a "Communist Revolution" or not.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Men of War is a pretty awesome WW2 strategy game made by a Ukrainian developer. Funnily enough, the Soviets are probably the best faction in the game, certainly the most fleshed out. I'd recommend getting the Dynamic Campaign Generator if you have it... its not the most enthralling Campaign Generator, but it keeps the game going after main Campaign has finished. They also released a 'Red Tide' mission back which follows the Soviet Marine forces in the Black Sea... you get to command a certain, Leonid Brezhnev in one of the Red Tide missions :laugh:

I was also (and still am I guess) part of a team that added the Soviets to Company of Heroes. It's not perfect, but what do you expect from a mod... we're hoping to add a Soviet Campaign and an extra German faction (suited to Eastern Front warfare) in the future.

moddb.com/mods/coheastern-front (can't add proper links yet)

[VictorAlphaLema]

Men of War is a pretty awesome WW2 strategy game made by a Ukrainian developer. Funnily enough, the Soviets are probably the best faction in the game, certainly the most fleshed out. I'd recommend getting the Dynamic Campaign Generator if you have it... its not the most enthralling Campaign Generator, but it keeps the game going after main Campaign has finished. They also released a 'Red Tide' mission back which follows the Soviet Marine forces in the Black Sea... you get to command a certain, Leonid Brezhnev in one of the Red Tide missions :laugh:

I was also (and still am I guess) part of a team that added the Soviets to Company of Heroes. It's not perfect, but what do you expect from a mod... we're hoping to add a Soviet Campaign and an extra German faction (suited to Eastern Front warfare) in the future.


I was just about to mention "Men of War" its a decent game and yes the Russians do feels like they are the main fraction of the game and the others are addon's. Yay for men of war:thumbup1:

[Dr Mindbender]

Stalin Vs. The Martians!!!! :thumbup1:

R_lZabYCwPY

Buy this abomination and watch your computer spontaneously combust in protest.

Seriously, i have shat better games than that.

[Qayin]

In Team Fortress 2 the Heavy is Russian and all of his achievements are very soviet oriented.

[theblackmask]

Buy this abomination and watch your computer spontaneously combust in protest.

Seriously, i have shat better games than that.

I second that. This game went around the indie game scene for a while before it was released, and built up a pretty big hype. Then everyone realized it was garbage.

[Chimurenga.]

I second that. This game went around the indie game scene for a while before it was released, and built up a pretty big hype. Then everyone realized it was garbage.

I don't think it's supposed to be a "good" game. I think it's supposed to be ridiculous and purposely bad.

[theblackmask]

Did we forget about the Command and Conquer series?

Renegade was my favorite.

Amazingly, you can still play Renegade online, even though Westwood is out of business, due to community efforts.

[Bodom]

Hi. To any of you familiar with Steam, I made a group to counteract the wave of fascist groups on there. Please join if you play on steam regularly.

Unfortunately I haven't made 25 posts yet so can't post the link but the group's called "Socialist Alliance" so just use the search box to find it.

[theblackmask]

Kosmosis (http://www.molleindustria.org/kosmosis/kosmosis.html) is a neat little flash game that tries to bring forth revolutionary ideas through gameplay rather than story or text. It's worth the five minutes it takes to beat.

[Jazzhands]

Deus Ex. I know someone already mentioned this, but it needs to be repeated as many times as possible because it's THAT GOOD. Deus Ex hit me when I was having some serious doubts about Marxism. Then it occurred to me that the dystopian America was basically GWB's America...that came out before he became president.

Anyway, anything that has you killing fascists counts. That would be every single WWII game ever made, and every Star Wars game, since the CIS is an evil coalition of bankers and the Empire is a fascist state.

Mercenaries maybe??? Freedom Fighters. Although you really are fighting a Soviet invasion of America, it really depends on your view whether you consider the USSR socialist or state-capitalist. "World in Conflict. Any Star Trek game since the UFP uses a socialist economy.

Stalin vs. Martians. Yes, that game really exists.

[What Would Durruti Do?]

Red Dead Redemption will feature a revolutionary scenario in Mexico that I assume the player is able to help out if you choose to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSga7k5pLg

[eyedrop]

The third episode of Tales of Monkey Island (the one in the Sea-cow) has a group of mutineers who practices direct-democracy and has an anarcho-socialist as an idol.


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Fisheyes Alabaster was an anarcho-socialist pirate philosopher. His ideals are the basic principles of the Democratically United Brotherhood of the Manatee Interior (http://www.miwiki.net/Democratically_United_Brotherhood_of_the_Manatee_I nterior).


http://www.miwiki.net/Fisheyes_Alabaster

[MarxSchmarx]

Red Dead Redemption will feature a revolutionary scenario in Mexico that I assume the player is able to help out if you choose to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSga7k5pLg

I haven't played it yet, but my understanding is that it is highly cynical about the revolutionaries, and it's a nationalist/bourgeois revolution anyway. Phooey.

[Kevin-Nash-NWO-Left]

Ive played Civ and Tropico. They are fun for the most part.

[Boboulas]

Geo political simulator. Can be any nation on the earth starting at the year 2008 and basicly you can turn american into an authoritarian state and china into the imperialist power by enacting gradual policy changes that move you towards your target ideology. You can do literaly anything with any country although the focus of the game is to be obama leading america in 2008 you can still pick any country.

[Black Sheep]

Red Dead Redemption will feature a revolutionary scenario in Mexico that I assume the player is able to help out if you choose to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSga7k5pLg
No PC version :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[bcbm]

I haven't played it yet, but my understanding is that it is highly cynical about the revolutionaries, and it's a nationalist/bourgeois revolution anyway. Phooey.

its cynical about the leader of the revolutionaries and the effectiveness of so many dying to replace one shitty dictator with another, really.

[Obs]

No PC version :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Yet. They'll port it eventually.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

That's what I got from the game too. The Government was portrayed quite astonishingly as a bunch of corrupt murderers and rapists, but the Leader of the Revolution is portrayed as a greedy womanising idealist who promises his people freedom from tyranny and corruption, but really only works for himself.

[Pirate Utopian]

If you buy the newspaper after the storyline you'll read in the paper Reyes became what he overthrew.

[nip]

Man I really want the red faction sequel

[Ele'ill]

Welcome to City 17

[Taikand]

Welcome to City 17

I can't get that part of my head, the best dystopia I've ever seen in a videogame.

[Black Sheep]

Well well well..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6JTvzrpBy0

[Taikand]

End of Nations trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ8qIs1bQmc
What do you think?

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Never played Deus Ex but this one looks like it might be worth a shot. Still, they should have added another hundred or so years onto the set date.

End of Nations looks interesting, but the voice acting made me cringe.

edit-

I didn't relies EoN was recently released, I've never heard of it. Was expecting something much better, looks terrible tbh.

[Invincible Summer]

Well well well..

i6JTvzrpBy0


Looks sooo good. What really puts me off from re-playing DE1 more than I have is the poor graphics (even with the mods).

I'm afraid that DE3 is going to have a bit of a reactionary take on cybernetics and technological advancement, given the allusion to Icarus and whatnot.

[KurtFF8]

It also seems to be a bit conspiracy theory oriented as opposed to a leftist perspective on revolution.

But, considering what seems to be the overall theme of this thread, I suppose we'll take what we can get in this sub-section of the entertainment industry.

[Tablo]

Looks sooo good. What really puts me off from re-playing DE1 more than I have is the poor graphics (even with the mods).

I'm afraid that DE3 is going to have a bit of a reactionary take on cybernetics and technological advancement, given the allusion to Icarus and whatnot.
Yeah, the game seems cool to me, but the same thought came to my mind. It could be argued that he is simply annoyed by the fact he was not consulted when the artificial enhancements were applied to his body. I personally wouldn't have complained that much. Btw, I support trans-humanism.

[AnthArmo]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/539414

This game has a very straightforward message: Wage Labour sucks, especially of the sweatshop kind.

[Invincible Summer]

Yeah, the game seems cool to me, but the same thought came to my mind. It could be argued that he is simply annoyed by the fact he was not consulted when the artificial enhancements were applied to his body. I personally wouldn't have complained that much. Btw, I support trans-humanism.

Yeah I know right? I would've been like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGlTeKcEUFg

[Tablo]

Yeah I know right? I would've been like:

qGlTeKcEUFg
Exactly! xD

[Pavlov's House Party]

Red Dead Redemption will feature a revolutionary scenario in Mexico that I assume the player is able to help out if you choose to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSga7k5pLg


You first help the Mexican government crush the rebels, but then side with the "socialists" revolutionaries and help overthrow a fictional dictatorship. None of it is political however, you only help them because it is beneficial for your character.

Also about Paradox games: if it didn't crash every 15 minutes, Victoria would have easily consumed my life by now:drool:

[Revolutionair]

In the game Warcraft 3. A guy named Say_No_To_War made some custom maps.
www(dot)hiveworkshop(dot)com/forums/maps-564/ww2-spanish-civil-war-3-26-a-108323/
www(dot)hiveworkshop(dot)com/forums/maps-564/battleships-crossfire-4-41-a-136204/

To quote the comments:
"Either a good map or a communist conspiracy... I have never seen so many political references in a map."

[DecDoom]

In the game Warcraft 3. A guy named Say_No_To_War made some custom maps.
www(dot)hiveworkshop(dot)com/forums/maps-564/ww2-spanish-civil-war-3-26-a-108323/
www(dot)hiveworkshop(dot)com/forums/maps-564/battleships-crossfire-4-41-a-136204/

To quote the comments:
"Either a good map or a communist conspiracy... I have never seen so many political references in a map."

I've played Battleships Crossfire during LAN parties before. It's a lot of fun, and the numerous political references make it even better.

EDIT: Hooray! 100th post! :D

[Revolutionair]

I just love the red october ship.
At start you just get some manifests and some repair wood, guarenteed succes.

Gratz on your postcount.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Just came across the game 'Singularity', set on a remote Russian Island amongst the ruins of some secret Soviet research bases. Judging by the trailers, time shifts about the place... so one moment you'll be in 1950's USSR, next you're in 2010 Russia. Reminded me a little of Stalker, unfortunately you play as some USAF guy 'saving the world' :rolleyes:
Still not sure whether to try it or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkk4jK_qVkI&feature=related

edit-

Played the game, completed it. Quite short, but very, very, very good nonetheless. Plenty of Soviet themed stuff in this game, the story is fantastic :thumbup1:

[Psy]

What about Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis and its expansions Resistance and Red Hammer as well as Armed Assault, all realistic FPSes made by Bohemia Interactive

OFP: Cold War Crisis:
The year is 1985, and Mikhail Gorbachev has come to power in the USSR. While his Glasnost and Perestroikare reforms are welcomed by western governments, there are communist hardliners in his own government that are unsympathetic to his cause.
One of these men, a fanatic hardline general named Aleksei Guba, is determined to bring down Gorbachev and make himself the next leader of the Soviet Union.

Guba commands an army on the island base of Kolgujev. Nearby is Everon; an independent republic, and Malden; another republic which has a strong NATO presence. Guba invades Everon, crushes the militia force there, and secretly plans to take the war to the Americans.

The NATO presence on Malden, under the command of the American Colonel Blake, moves in to investigate the loss of contact with Everon, and reports an invasion by an 'unknown hostile force'. When a helicopter of troops sent to investigate doesn't return, Blake orders a full scale invasion of Everon, not knowing about the Soviets, and the deadly conflict that would lie ahead.

OFP: Resistance:
Another add-on, Resistance, is set three years before the events of the two preceding games. The player takes the role of an ex-Special Operations soldier, Victor Troska, who has returned to his homeland of Nogova after years in exile serving with British Special Forces. During the first introductory mission to the campaign, the island is invaded by the Soviet Union. Initially, Troska refuses to have any part in the fighting and ignores the persuasion of the Resistance pioneers, despite feeling guilty and helpless as his countrymen are massacred by the Russian invaders. One day, a seriously wounded guerilla takes refuge in Troska's barn with Russian troops on his heels. Troska has virtually no choice but to lead a ramshackle uprising, and the player must use his/her resourcefulness to salvage weapons and ammunition from fallen enemies to supplement supplies which are continually available at later stages in the campaign. The expansion pack also updates the graphics, sounds, and multiplayer mechanics.

OFP: Red Hammer:
An add-on campaign Red Hammer, which was developed by Codemasters, depicts the same conflict, but places the player in the role of a Russian soldier, Dmitri Lukin, rather than an American soldier. During the course of the campaign, Lukin switches from his steadfast fight against American forces to battling his own countrymen in order to pave the way for an American take-over of the island. There are a few vehicles added, including the AH-64 Apache, BMP-2. The save game system was altered significantly, making reverting to a previous level impossible. Lukin had been a Spetsnaz in Afghanistan but was demoted to Private and shipped to the regular army for insubordination. During the course of the Red Hammer campaign he is put in command of a squad, promoted to Sergeant, drives tanks, flies helicopters and eventually gets promoted to Lieutenant and assigned back to Spetsnaz.

Armed Assault:
The campaign in Armed Assault takes place on the fictional Atlantic island of Sahrani, a nation which is divided into a northern communist regime (called Democratic Republic of Sahrani - DRS) and an oil rich southern democracycalled Kingdom of South Sahrani. The narrative begins with United States forces, after a few months of training in the south, leaving. The northern leader uses this moment of weakness to attack the rest of the island. The player takes on the role of one soldier in one of the platoons not rotated off the island before the conflict began. The platoons aid the Royal Army Corps of Sahrani (RACS) in fending off the larger and more powerful neighbour's offensive being spearheaded by the Sahrani Liberation Army (SLA, referred to as "slags" as slang by soldiers in the game).
Bit late but I just got into Operation Flashpoint, the real potential for Operation Flashpoint being a socialist game comes from its editor.

[Catillina]

There is a mod for Call of Duty 2, where you can play the Spanish Civil War.
There are missions on the side of the republicans, but also on the site of the fachists...

http://callofduty.filefront.com/file/1936_Single_Player_Part_One;101271
http://callofduty.filefront.com/file/1936_Single_Player_Second_Part_English;115503

You need to install the first part first, and the the second.

[Omegared]

operation flashpoint's Red Hammer campaign will let you play as a member of the red army

[human strike]

Surprised nobody has mentioned eRepublik in this thread (unless I missed it). It's a browser game where you play as a citizen of the "New World". Though it's not designed with communism in mind, there's nothing that stops you from creating a communist economy and taking political power too. There is a communist international and parties in most countries. The parties in Russia, UK and USA are probably the most revolutionary large communist parties. In all there's probably about 5,000 people in communist parties in the game. I think there's another thread about it around somewhere.

erepublik.com/en/referrer/Johnobrow+Dadds

[Ele'ill]

Not socialism but the HL2 mod Insurgency lets you play as Insurgent vs Marine. It's a realism mod and probably one of the best fps online games I've ever played. I used to play as Mari3L on my friend's computer. I was one of the better players if I can activate my own horn for a minute or two here (I hate the word toot)

[Adil3tr]

They should make a Call of Duty game for the Vietnam war, & allow which side you'd like to be on. Of course I'd be with the Guerrilla Army of Vietnam :thumbup1:

So you would like to play a game, where you go around as a poor Vietnamese farmer rebel, shooting poor black men from America? There shouldn't be games about that war at all.

[Psy]

So you would like to play a game, where you go around as a poor Vietnamese farmer rebel, shooting poor black men from America? There shouldn't be games about that war at all.
I wouldn't say that. For example having a game set in an alternative history where Pinochet's successful coup was followed by a civil war in Chile as a revolutionary army formed to remove Pinochet and establish a workers state in Chile. You could bring up the whole worker vs worker thing and counter it with there would be far less peace if there was no armed resistance against Pinochet and the CIA's paramilitary forces in Chile. Could even bring up the issue of having USSR forces come in as military advisers (like they did during Vietnam) and how it relates to the proletariat of Chile (ie the USSR while fighting US imperialism itself acting as a break to revolution).

[ComradeOm]

There shouldn't be games about that war at all.Perhaps we should only make games about of honourable workers of Tractor Factory No17 as they heroically assemble another chassis? Oh wait, its been done (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sims)

[Tatarin]

I was thinking of this, but all this talk about playing games made me think of: creating a game ourselves!

Check it out:

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/

Now, I know, graphics aren't that of Unreal 5, but reading little bit you can even make it an RPG. Also, AGS is free and, well, looks quite easy to use. And it can be released as exe-files and on CD if I'm not mistaken. If anyone knows about Space Quest, that is the "general engine" of AGS, although it can be changed.

Let's get a "The Socialist Adventure" group going and make this a reality! Right! Yes? People...? Comrades?

Anyone...

...

*Door closes and credits start rolling.*

[Kayser_Soso]

So you would like to play a game, where you go around as a poor Vietnamese farmer rebel, shooting poor black men from America? There shouldn't be games about that war at all.

Right because it's not like there weren't any white people or folks who volunteered to join the army and go to Vietnam. I got some bad news for you- revolution is war. And we WILL give the revolution, wherever it may be, its due regard in the cultural arena.

[Kayser_Soso]

I was thinking of this, but all this talk about playing games made me think of: creating a game ourselves!

Check it out:

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/

Now, I know, graphics aren't that of Unreal 5, but reading little bit you can even make it an RPG. Also, AGS is free and, well, looks quite easy to use. And it can be released as exe-files and on CD if I'm not mistaken. If anyone knows about Space Quest, that is the "general engine" of AGS, although it can be changed.

Let's get a "The Socialist Adventure" group going and make this a reality! Right! Yes? People...? Comrades?

Anyone...

...

*Door closes and credits start rolling.*

I am intrigued. But I also think video game technology, particularly AI, is necessary for the future of a planned economy. Simulations can be used which would allow us to model a socialist economy before a revolution even takes place. We would no longer be flying blind as the socialists of old were.

[Brother No. 1]

Just came across the game 'Singularity', set on a remote Russian Island amongst the ruins of some secret Soviet research bases. Judging by the trailers, time shifts about the place... so one moment you'll be in 1950's USSR, next you're in 2010 Russia. Reminded me a little of Stalker, unfortunately you play as some USAF guy 'saving the world' :rolleyes:
Still not sure whether to try it or not.

Its a Racist game. And extremely Anti-Soviet, as is Stalker. (The Book who led to the creation of the shit game is far better).

I hate with a passion that the game made every single word have some form of Russian letter being it "O" or "Ya". The Story is pathetic, the only ending I go with is that the world is united under a Soviet Republic since it is the only good one.

[Das war einmal]

It read was postponed but not cancelled.....


EDIT: Damn you're right. It didnt meet EA's 'quality standards'. :crying:

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6198367.html


In retrospect that must be the most ironic reason ever..

[Kayser_Soso]

Its a Racist game. And extremely Anti-Soviet, as is Stalker. (The Book who led to the creation of the shit game is far better).

I hate with a passion that the game made every single word have some form of Russian letter being it "O" or "Ya". The Story is pathetic, the only ending I go with is that the world is united under a Soviet Republic since it is the only good one.


I can't stand this kind of bullshit, Whэи тнэу wяitэ likэ this. И is not a damned n, Я is not a damned r!

[The Guy]

SuperPower 2

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/15306/1297166-superpower2_cover_small.jpg


SuperPower 2 is a Real-time strategy war game developed by Canadian based GolemLabs and published by DreamCatcher Games in 2004, following SuperPower. It was released between October 11 and November 19, 2004 in North America and Europe.
Players may join a game as any of the 193 nations recognized by the UN at the time of its development. All standard games start in the year 2001, with the player taking control of their nation. They then must work toward their predefined goals, such as achieving world peace, balancing your nation's resources, or conquering the world, or, if they did not set any predefined goals, they have the opportunity to work toward developing their nation's infrastructure, increasing their military strength through new unit designs and development, and encouraging the economic and cultural growth of their nation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/SP2-Politics.png

I strongly recommend you buy this game. I've bought it myself and it's so advanced. You can become a communist state, military dictatorship, etc. - the works!

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

SuperPower 2

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/15306/1297166-superpower2_cover_small.jpg


SuperPower 2 is a Real-time strategy war game developed by Canadian based GolemLabs and published by DreamCatcher Games in 2004, following SuperPower. It was released between October 11 and November 19, 2004 in North America and Europe.
Players may join a game as any of the 193 nations recognized by the UN at the time of its development. All standard games start in the year 2001, with the player taking control of their nation. They then must work toward their predefined goals, such as achieving world peace, balancing your nation's resources, or conquering the world, or, if they did not set any predefined goals, they have the opportunity to work toward developing their nation's infrastructure, increasing their military strength through new unit designs and development, and encouraging the economic and cultural growth of their nation.



I strongly recommend you buy this game. I've bought it myself and it's so advanced. You can become a communist state, military dictatorship, etc. - the works!

It's really buggy though and it's pretty hard to foster growth with state owned industry, although one certainly benefits more from it than having it privatised. The economy is in generally unfortunately plagued by some quite severe bugs... As is the foreign policy. It sure is a short step to nuclear war.

[ComradeOm]

Players may join a game as any of the 193 nations recognized by the UN at the time of its developmentI refuse to play any game that condones Serbia's occupation and administration of Montenegro

(Speaking of which, Victoria II should be released in two weeks. Now there is my chance to lead Montenegro to greatness)

[KurtFF8]

I believe I mentioned SP2 in the OP. It's a really fun game (And was great when it first came out) but even through the patches, it's quite buggy. Also there are numerous modifications by users that update and fix country info at least through 2005 or so I believe.

Granted due to the age of the game at this point, it isn't really updated anymore.

[KurtFF8]

And I didn't even know there was a sequel to Victoria coming out, looks interesting. I hope they keep "proletarian dictatorship" as a possible form of government.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

I could never get into Grand Strategy games, stuff like Hearts of Iron or Victoria, I still try them though for the slight chance I may like them. I did enjoy Superpower 2, it's the only one of those kinds of games where I have conquered the world. I played Supreme Ruler 2020 and Global Political Simulator for a bit but they were both quite bad.


Its a Racist game. And extremely Anti-Soviet, as is Stalker. (The Book who led to the creation of the shit game is far better).

I hate with a passion that the game made every single word have some form of Russian letter being it "O" or "Ya". The Story is pathetic, the only ending I go with is that the world is united under a Soviet Republic since it is the only good one.

Explain what makes you think the game is racist? Most, if not all games involving the Soviet Union are Anti-Soviet, even WW2 games to a degree. The 'I' or 'Ya' thing is annoying, but in the end its nothing more than a design choice even if they do rape the Russian language in the process. The story was predictable but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

[Adil3tr]

In the Mod Rise of Man in Civ 4 you can play as lenin, and there are civics like proletarian and marxist and communist. Pretty good. Also I found another mod that replaces your russia with the soviet union

[Brother No. 1]

Explain what makes you think the game is racist? Most, if not all games involving the Soviet Union are Anti-Soviet, even WW2 games to a degree. The 'I' or 'Ya' thing is annoying, but in the end its nothing more than a design choice even if they do rape the Russian language in the process. The story was predictable but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Take into mind singularity is the same kind of shit like Metro 2033, is that the 'evil russian communists' are always causing trouble but the 'glorious' hero saves the day.

In Metro 2033 many of the citizens underground say that "The nazis and Soviets are making gulags" or that they're 'causing trouble'.

In Singularity you just described why it is racist, but in a more dept look it is that the Soviet goverment could never hold power like the US did. Also the endings themselves suck. You either become dictator of the US and cause the world to be inside a turmoil, conquer it but then help it led to another Cold war which might end in something nuclear and finally you help the scientist create a World Socialist Republic. The last one is the only option that is good for the world, but the entire plot itself is also a bit stupid.




Whэи тнэу wяitэ likэ this. И is not a damned n, Я is not a damned r!

I know how you feel, espically if you're learning the Russian languag the entire game gives you a mindfuck and can confuse the very thought of this being anything of Russian or english. Also..the entire base is suppose to be "Russian". So why dont they, at least, give us Russian instead of this fucked up parody of the language? At least Metro 2033 'had' Russian in it though it was still anti-communist to its extreme.

[ComradeOm]

New operational/strategy just announced called Revolution Under Siege (http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=18472). Released on 7 Nov and covers the Russian Civil War. I've not played an AGEOD game before but they're supposed to be pretty good, if pretty hardcore as well

[Buitraker]

Anybody plays Heart Of Iron?¿

[Bobby501]

I don't know if this counts or not, but there's an election campaign game called President Forever (and others with similar names, created by the same company) which allows you to play as various candidates in historical elections, and also create your own fictional candidates and scenarios, with issues of your choice.

[Kiev Communard]

And I didn't even know there was a sequel to Victoria coming out, looks interesting. I hope they keep "proletarian dictatorship" as a possible form of government.

Well, your wish has been granted :D!



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/Eventin/V2/V2_1.jpg - Transylvania as a Proletarian Dictatorship in 1888.

[Adil3tr]

There's this fantastic online game. It have five levels, you're a soviet soldier defending Stalingrad against the Nazis. Highly Recommend It

Stalingrad Winters (http://www.mortargames.com/player.php?i=55)

:thumbup1:

[Adil3tr]

9th company; Roots of Terror

You play the Red Army fighting asshole fanatics paid by Reagan in the 1980s.

[Kayser_Soso]

9th company; Roots of Terror

You play the Red Army fighting asshole fanatics paid by Reagan in the 1980s.


The movie sucked though.

[MrCharizma]

I'm new to all this socialism in gaming stuff.
Just wondering, do you guys reckon Civilization V will be similar to the Civilization IV in that you can do socialist things etc?
I'd be interested to know seeing as it comes out soon.

[Tablo]

I'm new to all this socialism in gaming stuff.
Just wondering, do you guys reckon Civilization V will be similar to the Civilization IV in that you can do socialist things etc?
I'd be interested to know seeing as it comes out soon.
If it doesn't I hope some modders can change that.

[Adil3tr]

Its a ultra competitive game where you're supposed to squeeze value out of your people to make weapns and monuments. But I still love it.

[Lenin Cat]

Has anyone been able to run Stalin's dilemma on windows 7? Also can someone upload Soviet Economic Simulator to megaupload or somewere because the site went down.

[CleverTitle]

Oh Christ, Civ V is out in about 10 hours on Steam. I'm kind of giddy.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Still not out for another 24 hours in Europe. Fricking favouritism. Downloading the Demo...:bored:

On another note, R.U.S.E, while the game is good, the campaign is an Anti-Soviet piece of shit.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Got Civ V, it's pretty good but its missing a few things from Civ IV which I miss. I much prefer the combat system now, the perpetual stacks of doom in previous Civ games were fucking annoying.

To answer any questions, yes, Communism is still an adoptable policy, but so is Fascism. Weirdly though, you can adopt Communism AND Fascism at the same time... :laugh:

[IndependentCitizen]

Arma 2 - A Communist coup over runs a small fictional country called Cheronaraus. The USMC respond, and crush the coup. However, there's a huge communist insurgency. The nationalists bomb Moscow, and then Russia gets involved backing the Communist coup.

The best thing about Arma 2 is the mission editor. You could create your own mission on either side, perfect for creating scenarios based on real events, or fictional. You can use insurgent tactics to attack convoys and kill the imperialists! :D

The modding community is huge, so there's hundreds of mods to download to play.

You need a very good PC to play this however, but my god. I never get bored, I've created so many scenarios involving ambushes and IEDs, and RPGS.

Hell, I'm gonna go play it now and kill some nationalist scum!

[Red Commissar]

Some screens from Victoria 2. I started off as Sardinia-Piedmont and unified the peninsula, creating Italy. When the country unified, the political system was dominated by an alliance of conservative and reactionary parties. During this period the Austrian Empire tried to invade the young state to retake Lombardia, which I had taken earlier with the help of France. The invasion was repulsed, only because Austria was forced to settle to a peace with me when the Russian Empire declared war from the east.

In the meantime I built up the country, made a more impressive, well-trained, and more importantly advanced army, and the second and third time the Austrians invaded resulted in Italy acquiring Slovenia, Croatia, and the Dalmatian Coast. Playing up to my reactionary government, I turned around and invaded the Ottoman Empire to gain most of the Balkan states into my empire. All the while this conservative state is restrictive- no social reforms up to this point- no minimum wage, work hours, etc- and citizenship is restricted. Workers are getting more agitated.

Then Austria invaded for the FOURTH time. While my forces were occupied at the front lines, a Communist uprising took place and seized control of the state (which I let take its course rather than intervene :lol:) and like Victoria 2, the "Proletarian Dictatorship" form of government was put in place. After securing peace with Austria I set about to industrializing Italy even further, shooting Italy from about 9th place to 4th. Social reforms were enacted to reach an 8 hour work day, good pay, citizenship was expanded, the usual deal.

Italy before the game ended. The game has communist flags for each country, which you can see in the shield up there.

http://oi51.tinypic.com/1znlxud.jpg

Following is the world. The US remained isolationist and never acquired territory from Mexico, and UK got to Washington state first. Prussia never reunified Germany, France didn't lose Alsace Lorraine (instead it acquired a chunk of the Rheinland). France also took the Wallonia from Belgium. The UK went apeshit in the far east, taking over most of China. Russia is getting overrun by all shades of revolutionaries, though none are able to capture the capital. Finnish, Georgian, Latvian, and Lithuanian nationalists managed to seceed. Austria got a chunk of Ukraine. Ottoman Empire still exists, though was forced to create Egypt as a partner in crime. Sweden acquired Finland from a collapsing Russia.

http://oi56.tinypic.com/zso3rb.jpg

[Comrade_Stalin]

There is said to be a tropico 4 in the works, and I have always found that game to be pro-communist. here a clip from wiki

"Not much is known about Tropico 4. The game's campaign makes for a number of scenarios. They out with the main character, "El Presidente," having seized control of a certain island. The game presumably stays true to its dictatorial aesthetics, while giving new options to the player. For example, imports can be monitored as well as exports (whereas the previous games in the series only allowed for coverage on exports). One of the series' core principles of governing is through the issuing of edicts. A lot of edicts present a situation (such as a book burning, or contraception ban) that may cause anger amongst the citizens, or mixed reactions between national factions. With the upcoming Tropico's inclusion of certain ministers, edicts can be popularized without most of the trouble. It also includes more tourist options, including aqua park, and possibly a dock for large cruise ships. The two international superpowers of the previous games in the series allowed for international relationships and profit - namely, the US (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/US) and the USSR (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/USSR). Tropico 4 includes more superpowers, which stand unnamed at the moment[1] (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#cite_note-0)."

We will also have to see how Fable 3 will turn out.

[Red Future]

Thief 1and 2 are some of the hardest games ever released for PC damn good though.

[Kiev Communard]

Some screens from Victoria 2. I started off as Sardinia-Piedmont and unified the peninsula, creating Italy. When the country unified, the political system was dominated by an alliance of conservative and reactionary parties. During this period the Austrian Empire tried to invade the young state to retake Lombardia, which I had taken earlier with the help of France. The invasion was repulsed, only because Austria was forced to settle to a peace with me when the Russian Empire declared war from the east.

In the meantime I built up the country, made a more impressive, well-trained, and more importantly advanced army, and the second and third time the Austrians invaded resulted in Italy acquiring Slovenia, Croatia, and the Dalmatian Coast. Playing up to my reactionary government, I turned around and invaded the Ottoman Empire to gain most of the Balkan states into my empire. All the while this conservative state is restrictive- no social reforms up to this point- no minimum wage, work hours, etc- and citizenship is restricted. Workers are getting more agitated.

Then Austria invaded for the FOURTH time. While my forces were occupied at the front lines, a Communist uprising took place and seized control of the state (which I let take its course rather than intervene :lol:) and like Victoria 2, the "Proletarian Dictatorship" form of government was put in place. After securing peace with Austria I set about to industrializing Italy even further, shooting Italy from about 9th place to 4th. Social reforms were enacted to reach an 8 hour work day, good pay, citizenship was expanded, the usual deal.

Italy before the game ended. The game has communist flags for each country, which you can see in the shield up there.

http://oi51.tinypic.com/1znlxud.jpg

Following is the world. The US remained isolationist and never acquired territory from Mexico, and UK got to Washington state first. Prussia never reunified Germany, France didn't lose Alsace Lorraine (instead it acquired a chunk of the Rheinland). France also took the Wallonia from Belgium. The UK went apeshit in the far east, taking over most of China. Russia is getting overrun by all shades of revolutionaries, though none are able to capture the capital. Finnish, Georgian, Latvian, and Lithuanian nationalists managed to seceed. Austria got a chunk of Ukraine. Ottoman Empire still exists, though was forced to create Egypt as a partner in crime. Sweden acquired Finland from a collapsing Russia.

http://oi56.tinypic.com/zso3rb.jpg

One more screenshot of the similar situation :D:

http://i53.tinypic.com/1zst4k.jpg

[Red Commissar]

One more screenshot of the similar situation :D:

http://i53.tinypic.com/1zst4k.jpg

Damn it. I've been trying to make US go Proletarian Dictatorship too (because of the nice flag, of course ;) ) but the rebels keep spouting up in far places from Washington DC. And the one time a rebel actually happens to end up in Washington, be it travelling there or actually spawning, it's a damned "Anarcho-Liberal" or Jacobin spam.

[Reznov]

Damn it. I've been trying to make US go Proletarian Dictatorship too (because of the nice flag, of course ;) ) but the rebels keep spouting up in far places from Washington DC. And the one time a rebel actually happens to end up in Washington, be it travelling there or actually spawning, it's a damned "Anarcho-Liberal" or Jacobin spam.

Yeah, Americans have a hard time turning to communism even when they have Leftist Rebels rebelling.

[Nial Fossjet]

Hahaha, so true

[JosefStalinator]

Hey guys what does everyone think about the portrayal of revolutionary socialism, "syndicalism", in Hearts of Iron 2 mod Kaiserreich? Do you agree with it?

[Ismail]

Hey guys what does everyone think about the portrayal of revolutionary socialism, "syndicalism", in Hearts of Iron 2 mod Kaiserreich? Do you agree with it?Most of the modders for Kaiserreich (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?223176-Kaiserreich-Legacy-of-the-Weltkrieg-Global-Alternate-History-Mod-for-HOI2) are leftists or left-wing themselves. I think it's done very well.

[JosefStalinator]

In it, both Mosley and Mussolini are pushers for a totalitarian form of syndicalism... makes you think about how fascism is a degenerated form of communism + capitalism, the worst aspects of both worlds...

[Ismail]

In it, both Mosley and Mussolini are pushers for a totalitarian form of syndicalism... makes you think about how fascism is a degenerated form of communism + capitalism, the worst aspects of both worlds...I like how it portrays Huey Long as a right-wing anti-communist and quasi-fascist demagogue, which is pretty much what he was in real life contrary to apologetic portrayals by some Democrats today.