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Unrelenting Steve
6th July 2003, 17:42
If American Kid can be consolded through little token actions like sending troops to Liberia, then we are really screwed, I mean, thats like saying America makes X amout off foreign debt payments from Africa, but gives out Y in food aid and debt relief in Africa (and X>Y). Can American kids really not solve this equation. Because if they cant, the world is a little more screwed than it is, because these kids are the next generation of voters. And I dont wanna have to put up with another self rightoes and extremely grosteque America, its so frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dhul Fiqar
6th July 2003, 18:56
Matt just watches the wrong news channels, he only has access to American media.

The fact is, the U.S. sent people to check if there was any need to send African peacekeepers, lol. According to BBC, this is a team that will get back to bush in a few days time (after who knows how many people have been killed) as to whether it is necessary to organize a team of peacekeepers (non-American peacekeepers).

There are currently no plans to send American soldiers in any real numbers for any real combat roles. Sorry, dude, but your country still sucks pretty bad, but I'm sure this will all get better when Dubya leaves ;)

--- G.

TXsocialist
6th July 2003, 18:57
Unrelenting Steve,

Reverse Nationalist.

But regardless of your horrible attitude, yes, it is true, many americans are very brainwashed. Social conditioned by the patriotic media, the patriotic books, and the patriotic president, who is bringing us into patriotic fascism.

The goal is to prevent that from happening, by not voting. Over 50% of the population, well over [b]100 million[/i], DON'T believe in our system. These are the peopel that are sick of the patriotic fascists, and want change, if only we could present it to them, rather than calling them grotesque and generally looking down on them.

(Edited by TXsocialist at 9:59 pm on July 6, 2003)

Felicia
6th July 2003, 19:26
You need to get some CBC down there :cheesy:

Unrelenting Steve
6th July 2003, 19:29
I am South African; please explain what the referances to "your country" mean? did u think I was American, please ellabourate

What/who is Dbya?


(Edited by Unrelenting Steve at 6:35 pm on July 6, 2003)

Unrelenting Steve
6th July 2003, 19:41
Quote: from TXsocialist on 5:57 pm on July 6, 2003
Unrelenting Steve,

Reverse Nationalist.

But regardless of your horrible attitude, yes, it is true, many americans are very brainwashed. Social conditioned by the patriotic media, the patriotic books, and the patriotic president, who is bringing us into patriotic fascism.

The goal is to prevent that from happening, by not voting. Over 50% of the population, well over [b]100 million[/i], DON'T believe in our system. These are the peopel that are sick of the patriotic fascists, and want change, if only we could present it to them, rather than calling them grotesque and generally looking down on them.

(Edited by TXsocialist at 9:59 pm on July 6, 2003)


I was calling America grotesque, as in the general nation and its actions as a nation and character as a nation.
I dont believe there are that many people unbelieving in the American system. or there would be more support for things like socialism.
And my main point was that even the liberal Americans (that I think American kid is) might just be put to no good use because they would just accept little token missions; that in the end will just keep them forever at bay.

(Edited by Unrelenting Steve at 6:45 pm on July 6, 2003)

Felicia
6th July 2003, 19:59
Quote: from Unrelenting Steve on 3:29 pm on July 6, 2003
I am South African; please explain what the referances to "your country" mean? did u think I was American, please ellabourate

What/who is Dbya?


(Edited by Unrelenting Steve at 6:35 pm on July 6, 2003)

really? South Africa? Wow, good to see yoiu here :)

By "your country" they're referring to the United States most likely (I'm canadian)
By "dubya" they mean George W. Bush, president of the United States

:)

Soul Rebel
6th July 2003, 20:08
i think there a people who are unbelieving in the american system, however, they are afraid to speak out, especially now. Most however are completely brainwashed and have no clue what is really going on. They do not question the actions of the government. They have been brought up to believe that the american government is working on their behalf and to protect them, which couldnt be farther from the truth. For those that do question- it is nearly impossible to search for the real answers. Alternatives to our patriotic, corporate owned media barely exist. You really have to go out of your way to get to it and most people dont even want to bother.

Unrelenting Steve
6th July 2003, 20:59
Quote: from felicia on 6:59 pm on July 6, 2003

Quote: from Unrelenting Steve on 3:29 pm on July 6, 2003
I am South African; please explain what the referances to "your country" mean? did u think I was American, please ellabourate

What/who is Dbya?


(Edited by Unrelenting Steve at 6:35 pm on July 6, 2003)

really? South Africa? Wow, good to see yoiu here :)

By "your country" they're referring to the United States most likely (I'm canadian)
By "dubya" they mean George W. Bush, president of the United States

:)


Thanx, and thats pretty clever (Dubya).

Felicia
6th July 2003, 22:51
Well, that's how they pronounce "W"....doubbleyou..... down there. Dubya :biggrin:

CienfuegosJnr
7th July 2003, 06:44
I used to live in New Orleans when I was a kid,
After the 1st Gulf war the whole country was coveered in yellow ribbons, flags and other bull shit, it made me and my family sick!...
I now live in Australia, and here your typical person can say
'I hate Australia' as much as you want..... If you say 'I hate America' in the U.S you get lynched ....
So yes America can bee viewed as grotesque---

TXsocialist
7th July 2003, 21:37
I was calling America grotesque, as in the general nation and its actions as a nation and character as a nation.

If you call yourself a socialist, you realize that these actions were perpetrated by the American elite, not the poor of America.

I dont believe there are that many people unbelieving in the American system. or there would be more support for things like socialism.

You fail to see how powerful the media, and elite are here, they generate "patriotism" even in the non-voting sectors of the population.

And my figure is correct, over 100 million don't vote, a sign of, conscious or otherwise, resistance and lack of belief in the system.

And my main point was that even the liberal Americans (that I think American kid is) might just be put to no good use because they would just accept little token missions; that in the end will just keep them forever at bay.

Liberal Americans are a minority, and make up about 20% of the population, and conservatives the other 20%, the rest are, as I said, sick of the system, using their right to not vote as a means of showing it.



(Edited by TXsocialist at 12:40 am on July 8, 2003)

Unrelenting Steve
7th July 2003, 23:47
Quote: from TXsocialist on 8:37 pm on July 7, 2003
I was calling America grotesque, as in the general nation and its actions as a nation and character as a nation.

If you call yourself a socialist, you realize that these actions were perpetrated by the American elite, not the poor of America.

I dont believe there are that many people unbelieving in the American system. or there would be more support for things like socialism.

You fail to see how powerful the media, and elite are here, they generate "patriotism" even in the non-voting sectors of the population.

And my figure is correct, over 100 million don't vote, a sign of, conscious or otherwise, resistance and lack of belief in the system.

And my main point was that even the liberal Americans (that I think American kid is) might just be put to no good use because they would just accept little token missions; that in the end will just keep them forever at bay.

Liberal Americans are a minority, and make up about 20% of the population, and conservatives the other 20%, the rest are, as I said, sick of the system, using their right to not vote as a means of showing it.



(Edited by TXsocialist at 12:40 am on July 8, 2003)


Wow I really didnt know that, truely interesting that so many people dont vote, but as I said before, I am not calling all Americans grtesque, I was calling the Nation and its character grotesque.

TXsocialist
8th July 2003, 05:11
America is not grotesque, the elite of America are. I love my country(while, still, I am an internationalist) very much, it's a beautiful place, especially Texas ;)

Anonymous
8th July 2003, 05:39
Quote: from TXsocialist on 9:37 pm on July 7, 2003
I was calling America grotesque, as in the general nation and its actions as a nation and character as a nation.

If you call yourself a socialist, you realize that these actions were perpetrated by the American elite, not the poor of America.

I dont believe there are that many people unbelieving in the American system. or there would be more support for things like socialism.

You fail to see how powerful the media, and elite are here, they generate "patriotism" even in the non-voting sectors of the population.

And my figure is correct, over 100 million don't vote, a sign of, conscious or otherwise, resistance and lack of belief in the system.

And my main point was that even the liberal Americans (that I think American kid is) might just be put to no good use because they would just accept little token missions; that in the end will just keep them forever at bay.

Liberal Americans are a minority, and make up about 20% of the population, and conservatives the other 20%, the rest are, as I said, sick of the system, using their right to not vote as a means of showing it.



(Edited by TXsocialist at 12:40 am on July 8, 2003)


Nah, it's just apathy.

Eastside Revolt
8th July 2003, 08:18
Right on, that's the damn smartest thing I've ever seen you post.

TXsocialist
8th July 2003, 13:48
Yes, it is apathy, but that is a form of, however subtle, resistance against the system. Conciously or not, the peopel that don't vote make an more powerful statement than any republocrat could...

Hegemonicretribution
8th July 2003, 23:47
Apathy has been our problem in most struggles. However I think now with awareness rising it is almost doublethink, for lack of a better word, that some are practising. Knowing, whilst knowing they don't know and forgetting they knew just so they can remain comfortable in the very comfortable lifestyles, like apathy coupled with denial.

With apathy people can be fired up but this way they must be made to accept then be fired up.

CienfuegosJnr
10th July 2003, 18:54
FUCK THOSE THINGS!
I live in Australia (your friends). we don't have to do things!,
no pro politican' propaganda',
if you fly an Australian flag >your a weidrdo
Raceists are racists....... and thats it
Pro- American policy is the AIDS of the world ...
?What does a 711 means in rural Bolivia mean?
Ans- 71 lost busines's lost in Bolivia
711 lost jobs inrural U.S
24hrs lost in wages, for many people
GROSE!!!!

American Kid
11th July 2003, 07:49
I'm never warning anybody of anything ever again.

I officially have no friends at this board.

Okay, maybe I do. You assholes. I'm just really, really sort of pissed off and annoyed.

You never heard of sending a brother a PM?

"HEY, AK, SOME 'NEW GUY' JUST STARTED A THREAD IN OPPOSING IDEAOLOGIES DRAGGING YOUR NAME THROUGH THE FUCKING SEWERS! HIS NAME'S STEVE...SOMETHING. GO GET HIM CHAMP WE'RE BEHIND YOU 110% (THAT'S WHY WE SENT YOU THIS PM!!!!)"

And then I go:

"HEY, THANKS GUYS! JEEZ, WHAT A SWELL BUNCH OF COMRADES. THIS IS REALLY WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR."










......grrrrr.......

Now that I got that out of the way, it's back into the sewer here...

Okay, first off, I don't just watch the wrong news, I watch all the news. Or the most I can. I watch CNN, MSNBC, Fox news, and, me not being a total asshole, I can honestly say I take about 5% to heart.

No, everything Bill O'Rielly says, as an American, is not comperable to, say, the word of God. I know being an American this puts me in the minority.

......and uh, yeah. That's about it. I sent my new friend Steve a PM where I flamed him, called him a "stoopid jew red", and then told him how great America was and if he disagreed with me I was going to go to South Africa and run him over in "my Abrams tank."

-AK

(Liberia's in central America, right?)

*drools*

*awaits orders from O'Reilly*

*eats a Big Mac*

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 08:08
American Kid you don't have any friends here because you're capitalist.

Now why don't you go off to the Ayn-Rand's-Ugly-Rotting-Corpse-Smells.com forum.

IHP
11th July 2003, 13:50
No, he's not a capitalist. Get a clue.

Matt, Im sorry, but Im currently in St. Petersburg. You know I love ya.

--IHP

Felicia
11th July 2003, 14:24
American Kid you don't have any friends here because you're capitalist.

Now why don't you go off to the Ayn-Rand's-Ugly-Rotting-Corpse-Smells.com forum.
American Kid has no friends here? What rock have you been living under? He's one of the most liked people on this board. Origionally I thought that this thread was about american "kids" scaring him, guess I didn't read enough into the title I guess. didn't read much of the first post either ;)

You've got me Ak, I'm on your side :)

(Edited by felicia at 10:26 am on July 11, 2003)

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 20:08
I don't like American Kid, he tried to start an argument with me in another thread a while back. I don't care if he is a capitalist or not (although I have yet to see him make any socialist posts).

Marxist in Nebraska
11th July 2003, 20:24
American Kid you don't have any friends here because you're capitalist.

Now why don't you go off to the Ayn-Rand's-Ugly-Rotting-Corpse-Smells.com forum.

Gee Comrade Sensitive,

That was not very nice. Are you sure that you are the sensitive type?

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 20:33
Quote: from Marxist in Nebraska on 2:24 pm on July 11, 2003

American Kid you don't have any friends here because you're capitalist.

Now why don't you go off to the Ayn-Rand's-Ugly-Rotting-Corpse-Smells.com forum.

Gee Comrade Sensitive,

That was not very nice. Are you sure that you are the sensitive type?
I am sensitive. AK pissed me off and now I hate him!

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 21:01
In fact, I've been thinking about this. It seems like every forum I've posted on has some poster that everyone loves. These guys can - allegedly - do no wrong. Yet they all attack me (like AK has done in various threads here).

The guy that fit this role on the last forum I posted on committed suicide. And while this was wonderful news to me, it was overshadowed by all of his "followers" trying to deify him. He was a lame ass that was always trying to give me shit about everything (it still makes me smile to know that he is dead).

This might sound extreme, but it makes perfect sense to me.

Felicia
11th July 2003, 22:03
Quote: from Sensitive on 5:01 pm on July 11, 2003
In fact, I've been thinking about this. It seems like every forum I've posted on has some poster that everyone loves. These guys can - allegedly - do no wrong. Yet they all attack me (like AK has done in various threads here).

The guy that fit this role on the last forum I posted on committed suicide. And while this was wonderful news to me, it was overshadowed by all of his "followers" trying to deify him. He was a lame ass that was always trying to give me shit about everything (it still makes me smile to know that he is dead).

This might sound extreme, but it makes perfect sense to me.
I don't know what the hell is wrong with you. Just because youi have a problem with someone is no reason to be happy they're dead.

You had an arguement with AK in an old thread. GET OVER IT ALREADY. holy liftin. If I stayed angry at every person on here that I disliked at one time, I'd be a very *****y person, hence where I think that you're getting it from. For example, my first encounter with canikickit was a really bad one and we used to pick at each other quite a bit. But threads die and so do resentments and now he's a great comrade :)

Basically the moral of the story is to just let it go and you both can be happier.

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 22:25
Quote: from felicia on 4:03 pm on July 11, 2003
I don't know what the hell is wrong with you. Just because youi have a problem with someone is no reason to be happy they're dead.I didn't have a "problem" with the guy, he kept giving me shit. And yes, I can feel happy that he is dead.

As for AK, he is this forum's version of the other guy. So I don't like him either.

I didn't come here to make friends or shit, this is a political forum.

Felicia
11th July 2003, 22:38
As for AK, he is this forum's version of the other guy. So I don't like him either.
Looks to me that you're a prime example of the frustration-aggression theory.....

Seriously, if the other guy gave you shit, fine, be angry. But you don't need to pass that anger over onto a member of this community.

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 22:44
Quote: from felicia on 4:38 pm on July 11, 2003

As for AK, he is this forum's version of the other guy. So I don't like him either.
Looks to me that you're a prime example of the frustration-aggression theory.....

Seriously, if the other guy gave you shit, fine, be angry. But you don't need to pass that anger over onto a member of this community. You're missing my point. AK is Mr Popular around here, and can do whatever he wants. I hate people like that.

Felicia
11th July 2003, 22:55
He can't do whatever he wants :confused:
No one can do whatever they want.

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 23:04
Quote: from felicia on 4:55 pm on July 11, 2003
He can't do whatever he wants :confused:
No one can do whatever they want.Well, this is silly arguing with AK's followers.

Felicia
11th July 2003, 23:31
I'm not an "AK follower"
I'm a friend.

Why is it silly? Are you finally realizing that you actually have no point? :)

(Edited by felicia at 7:31 pm on July 11, 2003)

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 23:43
Quote: from felicia on 5:31 pm on July 11, 2003
I'm not an "AK follower"
I'm a friend.

Why is it silly? Are you finally realizing that you actually have no point? :)

(Edited by felicia at 7:31 pm on July 11, 2003)
Nope, my point still stands (regarding message board "social" politics). I just don't see any use in discussing this topic with you anymore.

Felicia
11th July 2003, 23:49
fine, suit yourself grumps

(Edited by felicia at 7:50 pm on July 11, 2003)

Sensitive
11th July 2003, 23:58
Quote: from felicia on 5:49 pm on July 11, 2003
fine, suit yourself grumps

(Edited by felicia at 7:50 pm on July 11, 2003)
LOL, I'm not grumps. I'm just a creepy Marxist loner.

the SovieT
11th July 2003, 23:59
Matt get this straight...

in the "chit chat" contest you are friend of everyone..
and i mean, even I like you dude..

but in the political contest...
lets just say you are a capitalist..
face it dude, you are still capitalist, even though you somewhere in time said that you were no longer a cappie taht you were a somewhat commie like us you arent...

you still endorse the capitalist way..
you still endorse the bourgeois type of democracy..
you even still endorse your country´s policys..

as for the PM thing, i myself couldnt warn you since i dont visit this board regulary anymore and to be honest i just noticed this post right now..

Felicia
12th July 2003, 00:18
Quote: from Sensitive on 7:58 pm on July 11, 2003

Quote: from felicia on 5:49 pm on July 11, 2003
fine, suit yourself grumps

(Edited by felicia at 7:50 pm on July 11, 2003)
LOL, I'm not grumps. I'm just a creepy Marxist loner.

and I'm not a creepy marxist loner? ;)

sovieT
the same goes for us. Capitalists may be unfavourable to us, but communists are unfavourable to capitalists. Politically it doesn't matter what ideologry any one person follows, we are capable of getting past such labels and getting to know a person for who they are.
As far as I know, he's never said that he was "somewhat commie" but I remember him saying "social democrat" which is just as great to me as being a socialist.

Take a look at the true capitalist scum out there that want nothing more for leftists than to be dropped on a desert island and rot, and you'll see that AK is one of the good ones. You have to see the extrordinarily bad ones to recognize the fair ones.

I'm not arguing this point anymore.

Sensitive
12th July 2003, 00:29
Quote: from felicia on 6:18 pm on July 11, 2003
and I'm not a creepy marxist loner? ;)You have a whole army of supporters here. I expect to see the Felicia Cult of Personality arising soon...

I'm just a crazy outcast with radical ideas. I'm like Trotsky and I'm not even a Trotskyist. One of your supporters will probably kill me with a pickaxe someday. Christ.

(Edited by Sensitive at 6:30 pm on July 11, 2003)

Felicia
12th July 2003, 00:31
Quote: from Sensitive on 8:29 pm on July 11, 2003

Quote: from felicia on 6:18 pm on July 11, 2003
and I'm not a creepy marxist loner? ;)You have a whole army of supporters here. I except to see the Felicia Cult of Personality arising soon...

I'm just a crazy outcast with radical ideas. I'm like Trotsky and I'm not even a Trotskyist. One of your supporters will probably kill me with a pickaxe someday. Christ.
haha, nah, I'm just friendly.
Who's going to argue with someone who uses smilies too much? :cheesy:

Sensitive
12th July 2003, 00:36
Quote: from felicia on 6:31 pm on July 11, 2003

Quote: from Sensitive on 8:29 pm on July 11, 2003

Quote: from felicia on 6:18 pm on July 11, 2003
and I'm not a creepy marxist loner? ;)You have a whole army of supporters here. I except to see the Felicia Cult of Personality arising soon...

I'm just a crazy outcast with radical ideas. I'm like Trotsky and I'm not even a Trotskyist. One of your supporters will probably kill me with a pickaxe someday. Christ.
haha, nah, I'm just friendly.
Who's going to argue with someone who uses smilies too much? :cheesy:Joseph Stalin: "Lets kill Trotsky! :biggrin: "

Felicia
12th July 2003, 00:40
dunno, I've just been seeing things differently lately. I've had somewhat of a breakthrough with a hardcore rightist, racist (who wants to see all muslims dead) who's homophopic and the whole bit from another forum. They're human too, he was actually nice for a change and exposing his more human side. and he's always getting on my case, hating me for being left, I hate him for being right. I know that tomorrow he'll be awful to me again, and I'll be as rude as I can possibly be if provoked and that this "peace" won't last long at all. But nonetheless, I think that anyone can set aside political differences and see the real person and realize that despite their exterior and they're beliefs, you may actually like a small piece of them, a small piece of them that reminds you of yourself. If only until the next opportunaty for them to cover that up again and fling mud at you. I have renewed faith in the right, but that could go as soon as it came.
All of this happened shortly after I wished him all unimaginable pain in return for him wanting all iraqis in baghdad bombed to death during the US invasion :(


sensitive, I've already got a man outside your door ready to get you on my orders....


(Edited by felicia at 8:49 pm on July 11, 2003)

Felicia
12th July 2003, 00:59
ha, and as I predicted, I just got an angry man response from him :biggrin:

I'm so good it hurts sometimes ;)

dopediana
12th July 2003, 01:00
leave my american kid the hell alone. he's apolitical, see? and whatever we tell him to believe, he does. right, matt?

....



RIGHT, MATT?

see. and if he's nothing else, he's eloquent. and loveable. and a damn good partier.


and sensitive, it's obvious you're really working up a sweat in your argument with felicia. it's the fricking internet. get over it.

Sensitive
12th July 2003, 01:07
Posting doesn't make me sweat.

And AK is not apolitical, he has many annoying pro-America views.

Felicia
12th July 2003, 01:15
I know little kids that wave canadian flags and say they're proud to be canadian....... does that mean they're political?

amaryllis... sometimes I get really *****y when I'm arguing with some people, and I bring it here and ***** some more. Hence maybe why I'm arguing here in the first place, che-lives is where I relax :cheesy:
but again, sensitive and I have actually stopped arguing and have begun to joke around with each other in the last few posts :)

(Edited by felicia at 9:17 pm on July 11, 2003)

synthesis
12th July 2003, 12:01
Resistance by not voting? What the fuck is the logic in that?

Seriously, that's like resisting a rapist by bending it over and taking it in the ass. That's a perfect analogy, actually. The more I think about it, the more I love myself.

Mass groups of people can resist by organizing independant parties, evading taxes, or rioting, from least to most drastic. But NOT voting?!

What in God's name are you thinking, man? Political apathy's what got us into this mess in the first place.

Do me a favor and read Chomsky's Secrets, Lies, and Democracy - it'll do you good.

Anonymous
12th July 2003, 12:24
I always get confused between the masses of people not voting due to a political stance and hte masses of people not voting because they cant be arsed.

Can anyone point out the difference to me?


Personally, my political vendetta at the newxt election will be a vote for the Tory party.

mentalbunny
12th July 2003, 13:45
Funky Monk, most people fit in the "I can't be arsed" category, but they can't be arsed not out of sheer laziness but because they don't think they'll makem a difference or that there is much difference, it's not really a protest. At least that's what I think.

AK, sorry I didn't tell you about the thread, I figured you'd find it pretty quickly and I didn't think it was really aimed at you.

Sensitive, your name is only fitting as far as you are concerned, you don't seem to give a shit about anyone else.

Hayduke
12th July 2003, 19:18
Ok lets get one thing straight here. There's just one guy that can mess with AK and thats me :)

I can't deny that I had my troubles with Matt. Like a few of you here I saw him as a capitalist boy that had no buisness on che lives. But its just a guy that cares about a lot of members here. I can't name anyone else that sends as much really personal pm's to members as he does.

Matt is certaintly not A-Political. That mistake has already been made by me, so dont try to call him that again. He has a very clear opnion on many difficult political subjects. And he already said to me that, since he has been on che lives he has a whole new look on todays politics.

So i'm gonna ask you one more time. Dont Fuck with Matt.

Or I'll fuck with you.

kylie
12th July 2003, 20:19
So what being said here, apart from sensetive, is that because American Kid does not focus as much on politics, he is exempt from criticism. I dont know in particular his political beliefs, but at the very least he is a nationalist. This should be accepted, due to them not caring as much about it(this being based on the fact they mostly post about non-political things)? Well in that acse i think we all need to stop criticising George W Bush over the situation in Iraq, as he only specialises in Iraqs oil resources.

Sensitive
12th July 2003, 20:46
Quote: from mentalbunny on 7:45 am on July 12, 2003

Sensitive, your name is only fitting as far as you are concerned, you don't seem to give a shit about anyone else.
As you viscously defend the right-wing Che-Lives celebrity AK.

AK is simply a jerk, he attacked me in several threads and was a complete asshole while "debating", and in this thread I was simply returning the favor to him. He started it.

Edit to add: AK always is posting pro-American propaganda outside of Chit Chat. But Jesus H Christ, if anyone dares to confront him about his right-wing views all of the "leftists" on this forum rush to his defense. Keep your right-wing Teddy Bear in Chit Chat, or else stop getting all worked up when I confront him on his nationalistic views here.

My first post in this thread was just the same sort of posts he was sending to me the last time we "debated", so no, I did not start this, HE did.

In fact, the last time we "debated" AK said somethine like "aren't you a queer?" Apparently he knew I was bisexual. Then he went on to "apologize" at the end of the same post he made that in. It was like saying, "Aren't you a mother fucker? Oh I'm sorry." What a fucking bully. But we can't get revenge on these forums apparently, or at least, not if it involves AK.

(Edited by Sensitive at 3:04 pm on July 12, 2003)

Urban Rubble
12th July 2003, 21:17
Wh do you keep saying he is some sort of celebrity ? Because he has friends ? If someone is talking shit about me and my friends back me up, does that make me a celebrity ?

Sensitive
12th July 2003, 21:21
Quote: from Urban Rubble on 3:17 pm on July 12, 2003
Wh do you keep saying he is some sort of celebrity ? Because he has friends ? If someone is talking shit about me and my friends back me up, does that make me a celebrity ?

I say he is a celebrity because almost everyone here will defend him after he makes some dumb pro-America comments.

It is quite obvious he is the most "popular" poster here, and he uses this to back up his pro-America views.

Anonymous
12th July 2003, 21:22
Lay off AK.

Sensitive
12th July 2003, 21:25
Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 3:22 pm on July 12, 2003
Lay off AK.Hah, well I would expect you to come to his defense!

Anonymous
12th July 2003, 21:31
I like peas

Anonymous
12th July 2003, 21:34
As do I.

Anonymous
12th July 2003, 21:38
Quote: from Sensitive on 8:46 pm on July 12, 2003

Quote: from mentalbunny on 7:45 am on July 12, 2003

Sensitive, your name is only fitting as far as you are concerned, you don't seem to give a shit about anyone else.
As you viscously defend the right-wing Che-Lives celebrity AK.

AK is simply a jerk, he attacked me in several threads and was a complete asshole while "debating", and in this thread I was simply returning the favor to him. He started it.

Edit to add: AK always is posting pro-American propaganda outside of Chit Chat. But Jesus H Christ, if anyone dares to confront him about his right-wing views all of the "leftists" on this forum rush to his defense. Keep your right-wing Teddy Bear in Chit Chat, or else stop getting all worked up when I confront him on his nationalistic views here.

My first post in this thread was just the same sort of posts he was sending to me the last time we "debated", so no, I did not start this, HE did.

In fact, the last time we "debated" AK said somethine like "aren't you a queer?" Apparently he knew I was bisexual. Then he went on to "apologize" at the end of the same post he made that in. It was like saying, "Aren't you a mother fucker? Oh I'm sorry." What a fucking bully. But we can't get revenge on these forums apparently, or at least, not if it involves AK.

(Edited by Sensitive at 3:04 pm on July 12, 2003)


Cry me a river.

Anonymous
12th July 2003, 21:48
Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 9:34 pm on July 12, 2003
As do I.


Did you know that there are many different varieties of peas?

Black-eyed pea
Cowpea
Crowder pea
Poor man's pea
Congo pea
Egyptian pea
Garbanzo pea
Gongoo pea
Green Split Pea
Gunga pea
Gungo pea
Pigeon pea
No-eyed pea
Chick pea
White chick pea
Southern pea

And of course, green peas.

Peas ROCK!!!

Anonymous
12th July 2003, 21:59
Sweet Pea?


I do indeed think there should be some sort of tribute to peas.

Felicia
12th July 2003, 23:04
mushed peas

mentalbunny
12th July 2003, 23:17
Sweet peas are flowers, and felicia, they're not "mushed" they're mushy!! Get it right!

Sensitive, I haven't backed up AK's pro american statements, I've backed up him as a person, he's a good friend and has really supported me in past troubles.

Sorry if you find what he says offensive, he's always been good to be. Ok, we know he's not politically perfect, but he's changed since he came and he might even change further! AK is popular because he's nice to us, really nice. I suggest you do the same, sorry if you're nursing a bruised ego, but we all do a some point, get over it.

DC, wow we agree on something! I love peas, they're probably my fave vegetable!

Felicia
12th July 2003, 23:29
Sweet peas are flowers, and felicia, they're not "mushed" they're mushy!! Get it right!
NO!!! they are mushed because when I get peas for supper, I squish them all into one big green blob and make a little mountain out of it.... and then I throw it in the compost/ small green bin thing for your kitchen ... our town MAKES us recycle and compost foods, they give you a BIG green bin and the foods have to stay separate from the trash, and no newspaper please

I live in a green town :cheesy:
Now too bad a conservative runs it.....

Sensitive
12th July 2003, 23:31
mentalbunny, I am not "nursing a bruised ego", I am more than used to holding the minority view on every forum I post on. I am used to being a left-wing, anti-capitalist poster. However, someone with AK's views should either stay in Chit Chat or expect to get a verbal beating. I especially have zero tolerance for attacks on my sexuality ON A LEFTIST FORUM. Grr...

mentalbunny
12th July 2003, 23:36
felicia, do you not like peas?!!! How shocking, everyone likes peas!!!!!!!

Senstive, you take a strange kind of pride in being in the minority, don't you? Do you think you are in the minority on che-lives? If you have any real complaints about AK I suggest you take it up with an admin, shwoing them exactly where AK insulted you. In fact why don't you post links to those threads here? And why exactly should AK stay in chit chat, if he truly is a capi he should only be in OI, but the admins have decided that he shows enough promise to be allowed to roam free and to be "re-educated" or similar.

Hayduke
12th July 2003, 23:42
Sensitive would you please inform me of any thread that shows that AK is posting american propaganda ?

Sensitive
12th July 2003, 23:50
Quote: from mentalbunny on 5:36 pm on July 12, 2003
felicia, do you not like peas?!!! How shocking, everyone likes peas!!!!!!!

Senstive, you take a strange kind of pride in being in the minority, don't you? Do you think you are in the minority on che-lives? If you have any real complaints about AK I suggest you take it up with an admin, shwoing them exactly where AK insulted you. In fact why don't you post links to those threads here? And why exactly should AK stay in chit chat, if he truly is a capi he should only be in OI, but the admins have decided that he shows enough promise to be allowed to roam free and to be "re-educated" or similar.
Uhm mentalbunny, I think you misread my post. I said I am used to holding the minority view (the view not held by the majority). I never said anything about "taking pride in being a minority"...

D-DAY: Re-affirming my faith in my country (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=2594)

mentalbunny
13th July 2003, 00:00
OK maybe I misinterpreted, but you'd mentioned being in the minority several times in this thread so it seemed like something you were very aware of, let's say.

Sensitive
13th July 2003, 00:12
Quote: from mentalbunny on 6:00 pm on July 12, 2003
OK maybe I misinterpreted, but you'd mentioned being in the minority several times in this thread so it seemed like something you were very aware of, let's say.Sigh... just re-read my last two posts.

Felicia
13th July 2003, 01:35
no, I don't like peas. I used to squish them one by one until the insides came out and then I would eat them that way. :cheesy:

die peas, die (as you can see, I have some residing issues with peas)

Ex Nihilo
14th July 2003, 08:15
Peas are a lot like oysters, your either love them, or absolutely despise them.

Liberty Lover
14th July 2003, 08:39
I’m ambivalent towards peas

American Kid
19th July 2003, 01:46
This is stupid.

Here's the deal: My computer's broken. I'm at my friend's house as I type this. I've read the entire thread thusfar. Before now, I'd only read what was posted up to my initial post.

I am not a nationalist.

I would never (and never have) posted anything even subtley resembling propaganda.

I am not a right-winger.

It's been some time since I endorsed capitalism.

I find it very subject that "Sensitive" has failed to post even a single thread supporting his "claims."

I damn right called him a "queer." Eloquently, in order so that he may understand the "sting" of being "labeled" (ie, say, as a cappie)

(and yes, I apologized right after; not to be cliche, but some of my best friends are, in fact, gay) (I do live on Cape Cod, you know)

I want to thank all my friends for coming to my aid.

I want to absolve Unrelenting Steve who sent my a nice PM and is now officially cool.

I want to apologize to any and all friends (mentalbunny, et al) who I haven't emailed in a while (again, computer problems).

I want to again emphatically deny being, in any way, a "nationalist".

Thanks for everything.
-AK

mentalbunny
20th July 2003, 00:44
Yay, he's back from the dead. That's ok about not emailing but I'm expecting a fuckin' dissertation when you get round to it!!!!!!

MegatroN
21st July 2003, 08:07
I never venture too far out of the Music forum, so this is a refreshing change. This was one of the most entertaining threads I've viewed since registering at Che lives. Keep up the good work.

American Kid
23rd July 2003, 23:47
# moderation mode

moved here:

Mars

-ak

Ghost Writer
24th July 2003, 08:49
I'm never warning anybody of anything ever again.

I officially have no friends at this board.

Okay, maybe I do. You assholes. I'm just really, really sort of pissed off and annoyed.

You never heard of sending a brother a PM?

"HEY, AK, SOME 'NEW GUY' JUST STARTED A THREAD IN OPPOSING IDEAOLOGIES DRAGGING YOUR NAME THROUGH THE FUCKING SEWERS! HIS NAME'S STEVE...SOMETHING. GO GET HIM CHAMP WE'RE BEHIND YOU 110% (THAT'S WHY WE SENT YOU THIS PM!!!!)"

And then I go:

"HEY, THANKS GUYS! JEEZ, WHAT A SWELL BUNCH OF COMRADES. THIS IS REALLY WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR."

Sorry, buddy. I was out to lunch, and I must apologize. I have been busy lately, and honestly, I did not notice this thread until now. Quite frankly, I wouldn't put to much weight on what Unrelenting Steve says. It is obvious that he has no understanding of you, or of much of anything else. Next time I see a post with your name in the title, I we be sure to read it and notify you, if you are being slandered. However, I would hope that you would do the same for me. By the way, I still consider you a friend even though I have witnessed you slide further to the left during our time on this board. Next time I will be sure to give you the heads-up. (Hangs head in shame)

Mr MOAB
24th July 2003, 19:00
Take it from someone who has frequent real world arguments with AK, he is (unfortunatly) not on the right.

Urban Rubble
24th July 2003, 19:37
Ya, I'm suprised to see Ghost Writer being civil to a dirty liberal like AK. Sure, he isn't a commie, but he definately is no fucking conservative.

AK is rapidly becoming one of us, hooray ! Next thing he knows he'll be reading Marx.

American Kid
24th July 2003, 23:31
Filthy liberal.

And yes, it's true, Mr. MOAB is a vile creature of my creation. Not literally (yet figuratively).

He's my boy. He's misguided and confused, but I beg forgiveness on his behalf. He's a dear, dear friend, and we will come to your house atop an Abrams tank and run you over.

And Norm you, as always, remain a person who will be regarded by me with nothing but the most dignifying possible sentiments. This goes for Capitalist Imperial and Dark Capitalist, Tkinter, Liberty Lover, and maybe probably not Reganlives because that name is just obscene both visually and conceptually.

Everybody fucking relax. It is possible to treat people here with respect and befriend them even when they disagree with you. Sometimes it's most paramount in this circumstance to do so. I consider everybody's opinions and idealogies fascinating and my ear remains open to all.

And, I mean, lets face it, how many of you guys came to my aid when vox was lobbing "ban-bombs" long ago?

Okay, maybe a lot. But I never gave you shit for being friends with him.

Think about it.

-ak


(and yeah, the Kid's been reading up a lot on the left wing literature. Seriously. Ask MOAB what book I was reading at work last weekend. For the record, he rolled his eyes and ordered me to get it out of his face.)

(but yeah, I think the majority of members here would be surprised by how much I know about...uh, shit)

Urban Rubble
25th July 2003, 00:56
I don't think I was here when VOX was hurling "ban bombs" at you.

Anyway, who is this MOAB guy ? Just a friend of yours ? How old is he ? Just wondering.

Felicia
25th July 2003, 05:05
Quote: from American Kid on 7:31 pm on July 24, 2003

And, I mean, lets face it, how many of you guys came to my aid when vox was lobbing "ban-bombs" long ago?

Okay, maybe a lot. But I never gave you shit for being friends with him.

Think about it.

-ak

Hey you, I was right in the CC arguing in your defence when they were trying to cage you. I don't think that it was vox though, but that coiuld've been a different incident....

..... yeah, maybe we would be surprised of how much left-wing literature you read......

.....btw, I think Mr. MOAB is restricted already :biggrin:

Mr MOAB
25th July 2003, 05:56
I'm 21 and I am the benevolent dictator of cape cod

Felicia
25th July 2003, 05:58
Quote: from Mr MOAB on 1:56 am on July 25, 2003
I'm 21 and I am the benevolent dictator of cape cod
Ha, and I thought that people got smarter with age.....

American Kid
25th July 2003, 06:36
Ugh, fuck me. Don't ban him.

Okay, the name, no question, is sort of fucked up.

Okay, maybe, it's a lot fucked up. But he's a smart guy. A good writer. Good, justice-seeking guy.

He definetely should be caged in OI, but do allow him to flourish in this cage, I implore the powers that be.

And Felicia, as I remember it it was vox and D DAY who were trying to cage me.

These days D DAY and I are actually on fantastic terms with each other.

The last communication I had with vox he was still patronizing and extremely (obnoxiously) condescending to me. Which bothered me.

Like, really bad.

Don't tell him.
-ak

Lefty
25th July 2003, 09:46
I'm with AK on this one, although Vox was always a pretty cool guy to me.

Felicia
25th July 2003, 13:33
AK. No, I wasn't talking about banning MOAB. Just the cage.

Mr MOAB
25th July 2003, 20:05
Although my methods are often crude, there are lines I will never cross. If Ak (Mr. Popular) vouches for me, how bad could I be?

Urban Rubble
26th July 2003, 02:55
AK is Mr popular, everyone swings off this guy's nuts around here.

I want to be more than friends with him.

Just kidding, but I really do like his writing style, it's funny.

Felicia
26th July 2003, 03:27
Quote: from Mr MOAB on 4:05 pm on July 25, 2003
Although my methods are often crude, there are lines I will never cross. If Ak (Mr. Popular) vouches for me, how bad could I be?

that's a little different.

If a relative centrist vouches for someone on the right, it's not too much of a stretch from where he stands. But a full out leftist is a different story :)

AK's great in my book, you're farther right, I don't know about you yet. I can see the good in liberals and democraps.... but we'll see what I think about you :-P

Ghost Writer
26th July 2003, 19:11
At least he is not part of femi-nazi movement, like Felicia. Nothing bothers me more than people who buy into the sheocracy.

Felicia
26th July 2003, 21:56
Quote: from Ghost Writer on 3:11 pm on July 26, 2003
At least he is not part of femi-nazi movement, like Felicia. Nothing bothers me more than people who buy into the sheocracy.
blow off. I'm hardly a femi-nazi.

and for the record, I'd rather be one than be anything ideologically close to what you are, no wait, that would cause me to become an actually nazy...

vox
27th July 2003, 08:02
"The last communication I had with vox he was still patronizing and extremely (obnoxiously) condescending to me. Which bothered me."

Good. It should.

You know, Asshole Kid, it could have something to do with you being a wimpified piece of worthless protoplasm, ya know???

For example, I've never seen you take a definite stance about anything. Quite the wimp, ta?

Take a gaddamned stand on something, quit kissing ass, stop equivocating, make a decision and take your balls off the fence.

And when you do, don't spout bullshit. Hell, all of the right-wingers that remain, and many of the Leftists, spout bullshit so much they should be collectively called Old Faithful.

Like I said, if you like Woody you can't be all bad.

And, if you like "Manhattan" or "Stardust Memories" or "Hannah and Her Sisters" or "Crimes and Misdemeanors" you're probably smarter than most of the Leftists here as well.

I know from your other posts that you want to be a writer. Good for you. A noble profession in my mind. But, depite what the pomo filth may tell you, you better have something to say.

SO FUCKING SAY SOMETHING.

As of now, the only substantial things I've found that you've said have been anti-Left, such as the initial "Fight Club" post you made in which you trashed socialism.

Agree with me, disagree with me, I don't care. What I find most disgusting is your apparent inability to say anything at all. You dance around meaning like a deconstructionist.

Are you a deconstructionist?

Answer a question. Tell a lie. Back it up. Whatever. Just say something.

So far, your posts have been almost bereft of content. This, of course, would make you popular, just look at TV. But for those of us outside the mainstream, you just look like a whore.

vox

Ghost Writer
27th July 2003, 08:13
How's my favorite Stalinist doing these days? I haven't seen you around these parts in awhile, Vox. All we have left here is a rather insulting piece of dirt, Comrade RAF. Although he shares your Stalinist nature, he lacks your mental ability. I miss a challenge. I can anticipate your response, "liar, liar, pants on fire".


(Edited by Ghost Writer at 3:23 pm on July 27, 2003)

vox
27th July 2003, 08:24
GW,

Oy.

You really need to do some homework. I've posted loooonnnnnggggg anti-Stalinist screeds in this forum. Some right on this board, in fact, and some, as I recall, in theory.

But hell, you can do your own work, right? In fact, isn't it a point of pride with right-wing pieces of inhuman filth to "pull themselves up by their own bootstraps?" Of course it is. Given that, I'll let you find the posts for yourself, or, on the other hand, continue to make a fool out of yourself by accusing me of things I've explicitly spoken against in the past.

And, because I'm a nice guy, I'll tell you that I think Lenin was largely full of shit as well.

And Castro is a fucking fascist as far as I'm concerned.

So, consider this a good-natured warning that you're barking up the wrong vox.

(If all of this is too hard for you, check out The Twilight of Capitalism by Harrington, in which he explains Stalin's circular logic [you might want to do a search for that here] and the willing of history, which is, of course, completely and totally against Marx.)

vox (feels a little sorry for you)

Ghost Writer
27th July 2003, 08:31
Who do you think your fooling. I know I should have posted my old name. Remember me, your enemy, Stormin Norman. I didn't buy your bullshit then, why do you think I would swallow it now? You are perhaps the biggest Stalinist on this board, contrary to what you say. Your defense of certain other ideological points gives you away. Keep trying to distance yourself though, as I do find it rather entertaining, and telling as well.

Your enemy,

Stormin Norman

(Edited by Ghost Writer at 8:52 am on July 27, 2003)

vox
27th July 2003, 08:44
Well, SN, I've only got ONE thing to say to you:

Quote me.

Seriously, find a quote of mine, and the good Lord knows there are a lot of them here for you to choose from, that supports your notion that I'm a Stalinist.

Really, do it.

I defy you to do it.

You can't.

Because, SN, now you're just lying, just like your filthy president.

You've been around long enough to know that I'm no Stalinist, that, indeed, I rejecte both Leninism and Stalinism. If you don't know this, then either you've not been paying attention, which makes you a fool, or you simply don't care, which makes you and those who agree with you fools.

You might want to check the thread in "Literature" about BNF. I'll leave it to your supposedly scientific mind to figure out what that means, though a four year old could figure it out.

Yeah, SN, I really do think you are that goddamned stupid. You proved it in the debate about prostitution. You showed yourself not only to be filth, but to be filth that couldn't even respond to objections. It was pitiful to watch you drown in your own bullshit. Seriously, I thought you had more of a backbone, but, well, you just didn't. That's okay, sweetie. Not everyone can be strong.

And you, well, you've shown yourself to be...not very much.

Kinda dumb, very emotional, unable to think clearly. in the end, not worth my time anymore, sweetie. I've recently cut off a WHOLE bunch of folks, and I even liked some of them. You?

Yeah, you're cut off. Just like AK.

Until you say something worthwhile, really, just stay shut.

vox

American Kid
27th July 2003, 08:45
Negative.

But here's my stand(s):

I think that left-wing politics and idealogies are very interesting.

I know- in a "literary" sense that sentence is equal parts Earth-shattering and eloquent.

But that just about sums it up. I did vote in my state's (MA) last election and I voted green across the board; democrat when there was nothing better. I think education and healthcare should be free. I believe we should have affordable housing ready and available for all who can afford it (ironically; imagine that concept).

The left-wing "figures" whom I admire the most are Allende and Tito. It's three o'clock in the morning right now and I really don't feel like getting into it, but basically those are two guys who in my (very, very lehman's/amateur opinion) seemed to have ran their countries well, particularly through turbulent times, and were motivated by what I percieve were geniune convictions concerning primarily what they thought was best for their "people."

I think it's telling that after each one died their countries then proceeded to swan-dive right into their respective sewers.

I've also been reading a lot of Trotsky lately and admire him in certain ways as well. Global socialism seems like the way to go, if any kind is going to work. As demonstrated by countries like Cuba and Russia (after Germany never fell through with their intended revolution) it's difficult to maintain a socialistic economy/society when your neighbors are practicing the exact opposite. Not to mention blockading and throwing down sanctions.

Out of "respect" (to a weird degree) usually I steer clear of posting in the more substantial threads unless I feel like I have something relevant to add. Otherwise I just browse.

I started a thread in Theory which got moved (inexplicably) to History where I asked people's opinions about whether Lenin "Jumped the gun" with the Bolshevik revolution. I'm reading a really interesting book called "The Russian Revolution by Shelia Fitzpatrick (I think thats her name; the book's downstairs and I'm on crutches so fuck it).

I've jumped in other threads also. Again, I'm a spectator more than anything. It's all interesting to me.

The Fight Club thing I started a year ago (bear in mind that a lot can happen in a year) was uneducated, not to mention horribly written and concieved. I'm pretty sure I was drunk when I wrote it.

Cheers.

And that's about it. I've actually taken a stand on a number of things. I just haven't been as high-profile about it lately.

And I sort of resent you claiming I'm some slick troll working the room, trying to win people's "reverance." I can be as phony as anyone else (believe it or not; shudder) but I have my fair amount of friends in cyber-space and beyond; I don't have to go out of my way to win the admiration/comraderie/whatever of anyone here by kissing perpetual ass. This is just how I am. The only reason I'm sitting here right now and not across town with my friends, again, is because of the crutches.

Basically, I like to think of myself as a guest here.

For the most part, the hosts remain appropriately hospitable.

-ak

(my aspirations aren't so much writing per se, as much as they are, primarily, filmmaking)

(Stardust Memories is okay, I like the cinematography (though it's more than a bit obtrusively "Fellini-esque), but it's not one of my favorites of his.

I think it's a pity given his early-90's scandal a lot of his films from that era til now have been ignored. Deconstructing Harry's great, Bullets Over Broadway's great, Mighty Aphrodite is great, ect...)

Vinny Rafarino
27th July 2003, 08:59
I doubt that will happen Vox. Young Normie here has quite a bit of trouble with actually providing facts to support his statements. Not that anyone really cares what this tosser thinks.

Exploited Class
27th July 2003, 14:46
Quote: from Mr MOAB on 8:05 pm on July 25, 2003
Although my methods are often crude, there are lines I will never cross. If Ak (Mr. Popular) vouches for me, how bad could I be?


hmmmmm well considering I remember back in the 60's AK and I had just dropped acid and were sitting on pier with our blue sun glasses on, watching the morning sun rise. I was having a party later that week and he wanted to invited his friend Charlie Manson to it, and I was all like its cool if you vouche for him. and you know what?

HE DID!

He also vouched for Joey Lawarence of the TV show Blossom, Megatron leader of the Decepticons, San Diego, Fruit Roll-Ups, Hello Kitty, Ford Gremlin, Bigfoot (The Monster Truck) and The Olsen Twins....

SO if you want to be in AK's boat of Vouches with that kind of company by all means... go for it. Personally I would never be caught paddling next to Joey Lawrence.

Felicia
27th July 2003, 14:51
Quote: from exploitedclass on 10:46 am on July 27, 2003

Quote: from Mr MOAB on 8:05 pm on July 25, 2003
Although my methods are often crude, there are lines I will never cross. If Ak (Mr. Popular) vouches for me, how bad could I be?


hmmmmm well considering I remember back in the 60's AK and I had just dropped acid and were sitting on pier with our blue sun glasses on, watching the morning sun rise. I was having a party later that week and he wanted to invited his friend Charlie Manson to it, and I was all like its cool if you vouche for him. and you know what?

HE DID!

He also vouched for Joey Lawarence of the TV show Blossom, Megatron leader of the Decepticons, San Diego, Fruit Roll-Ups, Hello Kitty, Ford Gremlin, Bigfoot (The Monster Truck) and The Olsen Twins....

SO if you want to be in AK's boat of Vouches with that kind of company by all means... go for it. Personally I would never be caught paddling next to Joey Lawrence.

WHOA! :biggrin:

American Kid
27th July 2003, 19:43
Whaoh, heil the queen.

Maybe it's the drugs, but even I can't even think of anything worthy of following that...

-ak

Invader Zim
27th July 2003, 20:05
Quote: from vox on 8:44 am on July 27, 2003

Yeah, SN, I really do think you are that goddamned stupid. You proved it in the debate about prostitution. You showed yourself not only to be filth, but to be filth that couldn't even respond to objections. It was pitiful to watch you drown in your own bullshit. Seriously, I thought you had more of a backbone, but, well, you just didn't. That's okay, sweetie. Not everyone can be strong.



HAHAHAHA great line.

Norm you have consistantly shown your self to be an idiot, now bugger off.

Urban Rubble
27th July 2003, 20:25
Exploited Class, that was literally one of the funniest things I've ever seen posted on this board. Thank you, you've brought some joy to my hangover dazed morning.

Felicia
27th July 2003, 20:32
Quote: from American Kid on 3:43 pm on July 27, 2003
Whaoh, heil the queen.

Maybe it's the drugs, but even I can't even think of anything worthy of following that...

-ak


Hey, how about this:

*Whaoh, heil the queen.

Maybe it's the drugs, but even I can't even think of anything worthy of following that...

-ak *

:cheesy:

j
27th July 2003, 21:01
Man, when you're gone so long it's nice to see things haven't changed much from when you left.

When AK first started posting here I thought he was an asshole. I lambasted him over something or other (i think it had something to do with that Fight Club post) and then exchanged PMs with him and learned that he was a good guy, a Red Sox fan, and from my state (MA). He impressed me with his support for the Green Party in the last election here and has spoken out for universal healthcare and free education.

If AK is a capitalist, it is rather insignificant because of his stance on the above issues. If these issues were to come to fruition, then America would be a much better place.

As AK went through changes (and continues to go through changes) in his ideologies so have I. I came to this board as a flag waving socialist. I have read more and experienced more since the time I joined che-lives. I realized that socialism in the forms of Cuba, USSR, etc. is not the answer to America and the world's problems. I haven't come up with the answer yet.

So AK has my full support and will has always had my full support (even when they tried to ban him). However, if he says something stupid debate him. Rake him over the coals if you have to. But at the end of the day, realize that he is a genuine thinker and you both are probably better off for having debated.

People need to stop thinking of other people as merely personification of their ideoligies. Don't hate AK for his political views--hate the views not the guy.

Guy Clark ( a country-folk singer ) sang a song about something Hank Williams said:

"Hank Williams said it best
He said it a long time ago
Unless you have made no mistakes in your life
Be careful of stones that you throw"

j

American Kid
27th July 2003, 21:36
Thanks a lot, J. Much appreciated.

-ak

Exploited Class
28th July 2003, 12:45
I totally lied and you guys bought it.

AK never vouched for San Diego!

Felicia
28th July 2003, 13:32
Who's San Diego? I don't remember that person..... if that was a person...... :biggrin:

Exploited Class
29th July 2003, 22:11
Its a big city in America, in the state of California actually.

Ghost Writer
30th July 2003, 19:19
Its a big city in America, in the state of California actually.

Once again, Felicia proves which nation is lacking in their geographical education. Canada sucks. Apparently they are more interested in teaching the gay death-style than things like reading, writing, mathematics, and geography. If this is what "free-education" results in, then AK is definitely wrong when he advances that agenda. God knows, we don't want to end up like those degenerates up north.

Felicia
30th July 2003, 23:21
HOLY FUCK GHOST WRITER!!! I know where San Diego is, she said "san diego" as if it were the name of a member. Yes, EC, I know it's a place in CA.

Fuck yourself GW.

Felicia
30th July 2003, 23:24
see, this is where I interpreted it as the name of a person. So go throw shit on someone else because I'm not having it anymore.

"He also vouched for Joey Lawarence of the TV show Blossom, Megatron leader of the Decepticons, San Diego, Fruit Roll-Ups, Hello Kitty, Ford Gremlin, Bigfoot (The Monster Truck) and The Olsen Twins...."

Exploited Class
31st July 2003, 23:54
Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2003, 04:21 PM
HOLY FUCK GHOST WRITER!!! I know where San Diego is, she said "san diego" as if it were the name of a member. Yes, EC, I know it's a place in CA.

Fuck yourself GW.
I'm sorry Felicia, I didn't mean to make you sound moronic or anything like that. I am very use to this being an international board with people all over the world. If it sounded like I was talking down to you or something like that, I didn't mean to.

MegatroN
1st August 2003, 00:28
He also vouched for Joey Lawarence of the TV show Blossom, Megatron leader of the Decepticons, San Diego, Fruit Roll-Ups, Hello Kitty, Ford Gremlin, Bigfoot (The Monster Truck) and The Olsen Twins....


What the hell did I do? I also happen to live in San Diego...the climate on Cybertron is too muggy.

Zombie
1st August 2003, 01:00
ah man, big deal, you thought she didn't know where San Diego was, so what? As if you know every worldly city's location yourself GW? come on

Felicia
1st August 2003, 01:58
But I know where san diego is damnit!!! that's why I'm pissed that that fool actually didn't think I knew where it was!!!!! Who doesn't know where San Diego is? Especially since I'm right next door. Screw off GW. :angry:

EC, I know you didn't mean for it to sound that way, but it was ghost writer that was a complete ass about the miscommunication. No hard feelings :)

Vinny Rafarino
3rd August 2003, 09:39
Everyone with half a brain knows you know where San Diego is comrade Felicia. Ghost Whiner is just being combative. It's in his whiny little Pussy-esque nature. individuals with the limited intellectual capacity that Ghost Wanker here has shown tend to go straight for the carotid. He's a whiny little ***** that has no place in modern society. I can't wait to slap him back to the days of Harry Truman.

Felicia
3rd August 2003, 13:22
Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 3 2003, 06:39 AM
Everyone with half a brain knows you know where San Diego is comrade Felicia. Ghost Whiner is just being combative. It's in his whiny little Pussy-esque nature. individuals with the limited intellectual capacity that Ghost Wanker here has shown tend to go straight for the carotid. He's a whiny little ***** that has no place in modern society. I can't wait to slap him back to the days of Harry Truman.
yeah well. You mean people with have a brain that live in the western world..... because it doesn't matter to me if an adult in zimbabwe knows were San Diego is, because it doesn't really pertain to them, they have bigger things to be concerned with. Yeah, ghost writer's a tird. :angry: