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KurtFF8
30th November 2008, 22:26
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7757784.stm)


By Will Grant
BBC News, Caracas
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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45149000/jpg/_45149187_28bfd084-f3f9-48d7-b74e-de14ee45dcff.jpg Mr Chavez wants to hold a second referendum on the issue

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has announced a plan to seek a constitutional amendment to allow him to stand for reelection.
Mr Chavez said he hoped to remain in power until 2021.
His announcement comes after the president lost a constitutional referendum last year.
And it follows a regional election in which his United Socialist party ceded key ground to the opposition, including the capital city of Caracas.
'2019 or 2021'
President Chavez told thousands of supporters that he would be seeking the constitutional changes necessary to allow the president to stand for indefinite re-election.
The president narrowly lost a referendum on exactly that issue last December and under the present rules, he must stand down in 2012.
But now the debate must start around the country, he said.
"I am ready, and if I am healthy, God willing, I will be with you until 2019, until 2021," he said.
The opposition say that the same issue cannot be voted on twice. But President Chavez may well be able to get around that.
When he lost the referendum last year, people were voting on a whole series of constitutional reforms - one of which was the question of indefinite re-election.
This would be a proposal for a single amendment to the constitution, and as such could send Venezuelans back to the polls some time next year.
It is far from clear whether President Chavez would win another vote on the matter. Although the president's personal support is still over 50%, the opposition has been buoyed by its recent performances at the ballot box.
Any vote on this question is likely to be as close as the last, in which a few thousand votes separated the two sides.

I'm pretty surprised that he would do this in all honesty.

Dimentio
30th November 2008, 22:35
I think its superficial at the best and really obscene at the worst. Chāvez is my favourite of the socialist leaders of the world, but I think that it has become too much about the man.

Yes, he could theoretically sit forever, but in a socialist society, that should not matter. What should matter is a collective leadership which involves the people and remains with the people, not some sort of enlightened leader whose absence will cause the progressive current to turn.

The Fifth Republic would need more than one Chāvez.

Die Neue Zeit
30th November 2008, 22:48
Newsflash: The clown Chavez should catch up to "Comrade Bush" and start nationalizing Venezuela's banks.

spartan
1st December 2008, 00:38
Well the majority of Venezuelans still seem to love the man so why shouldn't he be able to stand for reelection?

Term limits are undemocratic.

scarletghoul
1st December 2008, 00:49
Ha, a very Putinist argument. But I agree actually. To deprive the people of a president they want would be undemocratic.

Herman
1st December 2008, 06:26
Newsflash: The clown Chavez

Why a clown?

Revy
1st December 2008, 06:37
There's nothing undemocratic about unlimited re-election. If anything, it's more democratic. People will continue to elect the person that proves popular with them. Who really thinks Bush would have been able to win if he was able to run for a 3rd term? Seriously?

RedSonRising
1st December 2008, 21:14
I think its superficial at the best and really obscene at the worst. Chāvez is my favourite of the socialist leaders of the world, but I think that it has become too much about the man.

Yes, he could theoretically sit forever, but in a socialist society, that should not matter. What should matter is a collective leadership which involves the people and remains with the people, not some sort of enlightened leader whose absence will cause the progressive current to turn.

The Fifth Republic would need more than one Chāvez.



I agree, a socialist society is an autonomous democracy with more popular power. Term limits do remove incentives for leaders to implement the wishes of their population simply because there is no possibility for reelection (Bush in his 2nd term and the Iraq War), but it is indeed becoming almost a cult of personality and his changes need to be lasting and independent of his own leadership. I do not care much for his trade-ceases with Colombia for food either; he seems to damage his people for political gains at times and his ideas are wonderful but corruption is visible on the horizon. Latin America needs more, "relaxed" leaders I suppose, similar to Gaitan.

Magdalen
1st December 2008, 23:25
Newsflash: The clown Chavez should catch up to "Comrade Bush" and start nationalizing Venezuela's banks.

Are you not familiar with the recent nationalisation of the Banco de Venezuela, owned by Spanish banking multinational Santander? Or can you only make "witty" little assertions without checking the facts?