View Full Version : Mistakes of the past part 1.
Followthewhiterabbit
29th November 2008, 15:34
Where do you think the USSR went wrong and what do you think could be done to prepare for future socialist countries for the problems encountered there.
If you have any alternative methods from suggestions others make I will start a poll and we'll decide it democratically.
My main problem with the route chosen by the USSR was the re-emergence of the bourgeoisie.
How would we stop the bourgeoisie from re-emerging in the future?
Dimentio
29th November 2008, 16:28
I think it went wrong from the theory that the Party should organise the revolution to the practice that the Party should rule and direct the economic, social and political life of the Worker's state.
Tower of Bebel
30th November 2008, 01:08
It went all wrong wen the international revolution failed to aid the Russian proletariat. It urged the Bolsheviks to deal with internal and external problems on their own with no means to solve anything.
I think it went wrong from the theory that the Party should organise the revolution to the practice that the Party should rule and direct the economic, social and political life of the Worker's state.
It depends on how you define "the party". It shouldn't always be "the few".
And the proletariat will have to prevent a bourgeoisie from emerging by introducing socialist reforms as quickly as possible without fears and compromise. It will be the establishment of the democratic rule, the class dictatorship, of the proletariat.
Vendetta
30th November 2008, 01:48
It went all wrong wen the international revolution failed to aid the Russian proletariat.
:confused: What international revolution?
Die Neue Zeit
30th November 2008, 03:02
^^^ http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/747/rednovember.html
McCo
30th November 2008, 05:11
Well people are saying it's the cause of damned communism. Well, that is an utter lie. Communism or broken into Marxism claims that to succeed in Marxism the country or nation needs to be advanced and at the time Russia was economically backwards.
Marxism tells that history like the ocean is in stages as the ocean flows in tides. They said that at one point the base or workers expands and grows and the top or market narrows. At another stage the base will say why must we be here"? "We have more in common than the market so why can't we overthrow them"?
People don't like or need revolutions for it's always bloody and fearful. But, what Karl Marx argued was that it wouldn't be a bloody revolution because the market had narrowed and thus only they were to be killed. There base rules and there is no need of markets and that would be the final stage. But USSR never 'officially' had a revolution but a 'Cold War' or an arms race which is delectable.
Also, USSR spent more time on the Cold War than the practice of Marxism or communism. That's why Russia to this date is not as 'economically' upstream as other countries because so much money was invested in the military.
It was not communism or marxism that 'failed' USSR. But USSR itself...
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