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Anonymous
2nd July 2003, 08:06
"It’s worse than you imagined"

There are a lot of myths about why Aids is widespread in Africa. But the facts, says Hugh Russell, are more bizarre

Lusaka

"The funeral processions trundle past my garden gates at any and every hour of the day. Sometimes they are rather grand affairs, with a purpose-built hearse and an ornate coffin gleaming through its transparent walls. But more often — in fact, almost invariably — the coffin, of plain unvarnished wood, is carried in the back of an ancient pick-up and attended by mourners who squat perilously on the sides of the vehicle as it rattles over the potholes. Another couple of pick-ups or trucks follow, each carrying up to 40 mourners. The women sing."

"At the cemetery the huge humps of newly dug reddish earth, the rickety wooden crosses and the litter of dying flowers are like something out of a Hammer horror movie. But the place is alive with people, as the various cortèges come and go. It’s said that people often get confused and attend the wrong burial. This is Aids in Africa."

"At a local sports club the secretary showed me a fly-blown photograph on the notice-board. It was a picture of the club’s rugby XV from 14 years ago. Two of the team were white — Brits, the secretary told me, who had gone home long ago. Of the 13 Zambians, 11 were dead. Of the remaining two, one he wasn’t sure about, and the other was still alive, and in fact turned out on a Saturday afternoon when he could find the time."

"I needed some tiles for my bathroom, and went to the local tile centre which, by some quirk of planning, is situated to the rear of an undertaker. To reach the display you have to pass through the undertaker’s showroom, and at first I sniggered to myself as I strode past the ranks of coffins. Then I noticed that at least half of them were only three to four feet long, or less."

"The UN secretary-general’s special envoy for HIV/Aids in Africa, one Stephen Lewis, reported in a Sunday newspaper on a visit he made not long ago to a paediatric ward here. While he was on the ward, he said, children with Aids were dying at the rate of one every quarter of an hour. Forgive me if I repeat that: one every quarter of an hour."

More (http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php3?%20table=old§ion=current&issue=2003-03-01&id=2832#)

Vinny Rafarino
2nd July 2003, 09:18
You're not fooling me DC. Don't act as if you actually care about what happens to the citizens of Africa. If you truly cared you would not support capitalism. To support capitalism is to say that missle defense systems and the like are more important that finding a cure for this plague.

Just imagine if every MD-Ph.D researcher and MD combined their efforts on a global scale. This fucking malady would have been in the history books long ago. Couldn't do something like that now could we? Fuck no jack, there is too much quid to be siphoned off the masses by selling the necessary medications for a grossly inflated profit. Why? 'Cos if they don't take the medicatin the natural side affect of HIV is death. Kill the disease; kill the profit.

I'm not buying what you're selling DC.

Moskitto
2nd July 2003, 09:58
A year after Smallpox was declared extinct the first cases of AIDS were reported, Ironic isn't it?

Current thinking suggests that AIDS crossed from chimps in around 1930, but maybe as early as 1915 or as late as the 1950s. The first known case was in 1959, but other cases of immunodeficiency from the 50s to 70s are, despite common story telling, now confirmed as HIV negative.

Viral infections are difficult to cure, the only remedies available remove the symptoms or stop the virus from spreading, the only way viruses have been treated in the past is to build up the immune system to the point where it will fight the virus, this is difficult with something like HIV.

It also doesn't help that drug company's make more money selling drugs which keep people alive longer than they would do for inventing a vaccine. This is certainly an example of where capitalism actually halts research because of economic reasons.

So at the moment, prevention seems to be the best option for everyone.

Loknar
2nd July 2003, 16:55
Quote: from COMRADE RAF on 9:18 am on July 2, 2003
You're not fooling me DC. Don't act as if you actually care about what happens to the citizens of Africa. If you truly cared you would not support capitalism. To support capitalism is to say that missle defense systems and the like are more important that finding a cure for this plague.

Just imagine if every MD-Ph.D researcher and MD combined their efforts on a global scale. This fucking malady would have been in the history books long ago. Couldn't do something like that now could we? Fuck no jack, there is too much quid to be siphoned off the masses by selling the necessary medications for a grossly inflated profit. Why? 'Cos if they don't take the medicatin the natural side affect of HIV is death. Kill the disease; kill the profit.

I'm not buying what you're selling DC.



Dont blame capitolism, blame the government.

Vinny Rafarino
3rd July 2003, 04:08
You should probably retract that statement ASAP Loknar.

Vinny Rafarino
3rd July 2003, 04:09
You should probably retract that statement ASAP Loknar.

Anonymous
3rd July 2003, 04:59
It's not capitalism or the governement that is to blame here. It is their inferior African culture.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 5:00 am on July 3, 2003)

redstar2000
3rd July 2003, 06:38
It is their inferior African culture.

What does that mean?

Was it the "inferior European culture" that caused the bubonic plague to wipe out a third, more or less, of Europe's population in the late middle ages?

Yes, Africa is still plagued with barbaric customs and superstitions. So are we...we just have different superstitions. For example, we will spend billions of dollars to stop people from smoking marijuana while refusing to appropriate a dime for basic medical care or even sufficient food for poor children.

Who is the "cultural inferior"? Tell me again, I forgot.

:cool:

Dan Majerle
3rd July 2003, 08:54
Quote: from redstar2000 on 6:38 am on July 3, 2003
It is their inferior African culture.

What does that mean?

Was it the "inferior European culture" that caused the bubonic plague to wipe out a third, more or less, of Europe's population in the late middle ages?

Yes, Africa is still plagued with barbaric customs and superstitions. So are we...we just have different superstitions. For example, we will spend billions of dollars to stop people from smoking marijuana while refusing to appropriate a dime for basic medical care or even sufficient food for poor children.

Who is the "cultural inferior"? Tell me again, I forgot.

:cool:

Right on Red! What a load of crap you are DC, you are your "culturally inferior" theory. That is pure racism but of course you don't see it like that do you? If you wanna talk about cultural inferiority why don't you bring up the Germans as the barbaric people that they are for starting world war II and wiping out 6 million jews. Or the white Americans for bringing slaves from Africa and even till this day oppressing them in their ghettos. Why don't you bring up the the British and their history of imperialism and inherited positions of power as that of the monarchy as culturally inferior? Or maybe the fact that western society is willing to spend billions on losing weight while Africans are simply trying to put something on? Gee, mass generalisations and racism really is fun!

Vinny Rafarino
3rd July 2003, 09:40
Agreed. Speaking of marijuana, DC must have been quite high to make a ludicrous statement such as the one he made. I am sorry to have read it.

Rastafari
3rd July 2003, 18:23
once I graduate med school, I am going to Angola first stop. Thats why you should learn-To help people, not to fucking debate

Moskitto
3rd July 2003, 21:08
it isn't cultural inferiority, it's just there's a lot of outdated views about women being spread throughout Africa, there's a lot of men won't use condoms (this is why UNAIDS is promoting femidoms now), the catholic church is opposing condom use and there's myths about HIV such as the idea that it's propaganda or it can be cured by sleeping (normally raping) with virgins.

Guest1
3rd July 2003, 23:25
bush is also putting pressure on african governments to refrain from promoting condom use and promote abstinence instead. sick man he is.