Photo Album Depicting Nazi Catholic Collaboration

[Ghost Writer]

These pictures speak for themselves. Besides, I am too busy to write a diatribe. Judge for yourselves. Some within the Catholic Church sided with evil long before today's child sex scandal.

Sick Stuff. (http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm)

[Red Comrade]

The Catholic church has such a dirty history that it is way too easy to argue with Catholics, therefore I don't.

[Moskitto]

There was a film last year about the true story of a catholic priest in Italy who was caught in the battle between what his superiors in the catholic church were telling him about the holocaust and what he thought was right, It looked very interesting but It didn't have wide circulation.

[Ghost]

Those photos are ridiculous! So what if the pope visited hitler? At that time, Germany was just another nation. No-one knew what kind of horrors they were getting up to until well into the war, so to say that the Catholic church sided is a load of bull. The pope visits a nation in the spirit of peace, and until that time, no-one knew the nazi's ulterior motives.

[Eastside Revolt]

Quote: from Ghost on 10:16 pm on July 1, 2003
At that time, Germany was just another nation. No-one knew what kind of horrors they were getting up to until well into the war.

I garantee they had heard the evil in Hitler's speaches and loved it.

[Ghost]

How? Were you there?

[CubanFox]

"[the Munich chapter of the German Communist Party is] chaotic, filthy and full of Jews!" -Eugenio Pacelli, who would go on to be Pope Pius XII (the man in those photos)

[Ghost]

Can you give me a link to that?

[the SovieT]

that is not disgusting..

this is:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/a...article2604.htm (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2604.htm)

thank you O.I.L. (operation iraqui liberation)

[the SovieT]

this is also quite disgusting:

http://www.rense.com/general38/frpc.htm

http://www.cpa.org.au/guardian/1143iraq.html

[Red Comrade]

Ghost: Hitler wrote Mein Kempf well before WWII. It was obviously blatant that he wanted to kill Jews and Communists. The church has no problem with eliminating it's opposition.

The catholic church was known for being some of the worst counter-revolutionaries ever. Infact they sided with every single fascist in Europe. Mussolini gave them the Vatican, the church recruited civilians in catholic nations to aide Franco in the civil war, and they helped out Nazis after WWII. They are disgusting.

(Edited by Red Comrade at 12:26 am on July 2, 2003)

[Loknar]

http://www.rense.com/
This site is not creditable. Hell I once read about a plot by the Swedes to conquer Russia!

Anyway, the Catholic church is by far one of the most treacherous examples of organized religion.

However, Catholic priests were targeted by the SS and Gestapo. They feared the influence in the community so they were sent away to concentration camps`.

There is an interesting movie called "Wansee Conference". It mentions a few times in the film that other nations friendly to the Reich (including the Vatican) knew what was going on.

[Zombie]

Quote: from Moskitto on 4:22 pm on July 1, 2003
There was a film last year about the true story of a catholic priest in Italy who was caught in the battle between what his superiors in the catholic church were telling him about the holocaust and what he thought was right, It looked very interesting but It didn't have wide circulation.


Are we talking about Amen?

[The Feral Underclass]

Quote: from Ghost on 11:16 pm on July 1, 2003
Those photos are ridiculous! So what if the pope visited hitler? At that time, Germany was just another nation. No-one knew what kind of horrors they were getting up to until well into the war, so to say that the Catholic church sided is a load of bull. The pope visits a nation in the spirit of peace, and until that time, no-one knew the nazi's ulterior motives.


Those pictures where taken in 1939. In 1934 Hitler enacted the Nuremburg Laws which disallowed Jews from marrying non-jews, owning property, practcing medicine and law, going to the cinema, or even sitting on a park bench. That was the time the arm band was introduced.

Throughout the period of 1933 and 1939 thousands of jews, homosexuals, communists, liberals, social democrats where inturned into dachau concentration camp and/or executed, along with many protestant priests.

The suppression was not on the scale post 1941 after the final solution was thought up, but Hitler made no secret of his violent suppression of political and religious enemies, and his repressive laws against the jews where not a secret either.

The catholic church must have known what was going on, even when the pope was standing there talking to him. They new about the murders of jews and of political prisioners. They simply did not care!

[Ghost]

Not everyone knew about the concentration camps until later on.

The fact that the nazis were against religion says that they couldn't have sided with them.

There is nothing worse the Catholic religion has done than any other religion. Just look at Ireal now. That is solely because of religion, as is India and Pakistan. None of them are Catholic. One visit doesn't mean they sided with the nazis. Who's to say the he was even aware of the contents of mein kampf, why would he be?

[Umoja]

Or else the Catholic Church was scared, and lost their Christian values. Hitler clearly proved himself to be anti-catholic later on, and near the end of his reign Hitler was the only religious figure. So, I really doubt the Nazi's were praying to Jesus, Mary and Joseph except at the start of their regime.

[commie kg]

Quote: from Ghost on 12:33 pm on July 2, 2003

The fact that the nazis were against religion says that they couldn't have sided with them.

Nazis against religion? They're the ones who said Jesus was the first Aryan.
They used religion as a tool of extortion just like any other government.

All religion sucks. Catholic, Christian, Muslim, etc.
All it does is create problems. It divides people, and makes them hate each other.

[redstarshining]

Quote: from Ghost on 11:16 pm on July 1, 2003
Those photos are ridiculous! So what if the pope visited hitler? At that time, Germany was just another nation. No-one knew what kind of horrors they were getting up to until well into the war, so to say that the Catholic church sided is a load of bull. The pope visits a nation in the spirit of peace, and until that time, no-one knew the nazi's ulterior motives.



riiiight.... of course NOBODY knew. LOL. The same old argument.

What about the Reichskristallnacht? Or the general treatment of jews before and after '36? It's plain simply NOT TRUE that the killing of dissenters started after '39.

Although antisemitism in europe has it's roots far back in history, the new genocide ( not only of jews ) of the 20th century started right after Hitler came to power.
But even long before he came to power he made speeches which were VERY obvious and easy to interprete.

For example: http://www.hitler.org/speeches/09-18-22.html

Or what about the Nuremberg laws of 1935? Ever heard of that?

From the beginning on EVERYBODY must have known EXACTLY what Hitler was up to ( maybe some failed to predict the war ), and everyone who says otherwise is a LIAR and a revisionist!

[redstarshining]

Quote: from Ghost on 9:33 pm on July 2, 2003
Not everyone knew about the concentration camps until later on.

The fact that the nazis were against religion says that they couldn't have sided with them.

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Who told you that the Nazis were "against religion"? What are your sources please?This is simply not true.
And have you heard of the Reichskonkordat ( Concordate of the german Reich and the pope in Rome ) ?

The catholic church and the NSDAP were allieds, officially and by contract.

[Rastafari]

We learned in a CATHOLIC high school that the Nazis and the German Catholic party became one in the early thirties in order to edge out the leftist opposition. Of course, it was purely political, but...

[Rastafari]

oh, and good thread, Ghost Writer. By the way, what is your religious opinion?