Sharing the Wealth - White Americans will suffer under a soc

[black sheep.]

White americans cannot live the middle class American lifestyle under a pro-third world socialist US government. There will be no more cars, swimming pools, Wal-Mart, nice homes, and other stuff. All of these things come from the economic neglect of poor Americans and the third world. There is only so much wealth. Now, most of this wealth is in the hands of white americans. However, socialism will change this. Once economic exploitation is ended there will be no more Wal-Mart. There will be no more cheap products. Prices will increase. The high price of products will turn white Americans toward socialism. Socialism will produce
products for everyone. However, the standard of living of all Americans will not match the pre-communist white standard of living. People will have enough to live comfortably, but not extravagantly. This is why white Americans hate Communism. It will end thier "freedom to be extravagant". In other words, white Americans
want to possess the freedom to be foolish. In other words, They want to be free to (and have the resources) to spend $500 (in one night) on hookers if they so choose. They want the freedom to have nice homes even though it keeps the poor in the projects. This is my argument. You cannot have the extravagant "American dream" without the neglect of the poor. Therefore, white Americans will keep capitalism alive as long as possible. Does anyone disagree?

[Organic Revolution]

hmm.. i do.. im white and im ready to give up anything.

[CubanFox]

You're quite the racist, aren't you, black sheep? Making sweeping generalizations like that isn't very nice.

[Totalitarian]

Great! The white birthrate is continually declining because of materialism and extravagance.

People care more about $$$ than looking after their family. White socialism would be more tribe-focused and we would have lots more babies.

Remember, easter is a white pagan fertility festival.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from CubanFox on 11:42 am on July 1, 2003
You're quite the racist, aren't you, black sheep? Making sweeping generalizations like that isn't very nice.


It does not alter the fact that what he said is true. The majority of wealth is predominatly owned by white people, this cannot be denied. The fact that the USA is by far the richest nation on earth would suggest that the white people of the USA are far richer than the black people of South Africa, for example. Also I am sure that the majority of Black people in the USA, also do not enjoy such a high standard of living as a white person. I do not know for sure as I do not live in the USA but I am sure that the ethnic minoritys of tyhe UK, live in worse conditions than the majority of white people.

The world is full of injustice, Blacksheep has only pointed out one of them, if you believe that to be racist, then open your eyes to the real world.

However Blacksheep, i believe that the question you raised about the capitalists trying to keep control is a foolish one. The answer is obviously yes, no capitalist is going to make themselves poorer just to help there fellow man, it is quite logical to assume that they will attempt to keep their economic supremasy.

(Edited by AK47 at 1:55 pm on July 1, 2003)

[Moskitto]

Black Sheep, you are wrong from a capitalist perspective, according to capitalism, there is unlimited wealth.


Remember, easter is a white pagan fertility festival.

so you would suggest that this is why a friend caught their folks doing it in the bedroom on easter sunday is it?

[themanwill]

Not all white americans are rich you know

[truthaddict11]

do you not consider whites to be members of the working class

[Moskitto]

some whites would be working class like some blacks would be middle class, your race doesn't make you a member of a particular class, races may be unevenly distributed into different classes, but your races doesn't make you a particular class.

[Loknar]

Black Sheep is a black man who will go through his entire life listening to Jesey Jackson and think he's a victim and that cops racist beating the crap out of a black man for stealing a cop car and poointing a gun at the police.

[black sheep.]

Quote: from CubanFox on 11:42 am on July 1, 2003
You're quite the racist, aren't you, black sheep? Making sweeping generalizations like that isn't very nice.
Your right. I am forming sterotypes of certain groups. However, it is true that Fox News fans will lose under socialism. It is true that most Fox News fans are
WASPs'. However, that is not an excuse to hate a certain race. I am against all racists. I am no politcal correctness advocate. I hate racists of all colors. I don't like the skinheads and the Ku Klux Klan. On the other hand, I also hate the Black Panthers and the Black Muslims. They are all reactionary.

I think Loknar pointed out that I have the "victim" mentality. No, not really. I am not blaming society for my personal mistakes. As long as thier is a capitalist society, I have to survive in it the best I can. Society has not "victimized me". My parents and peers have not either. I accept responsibility for my actions like a man. Now, before I start sounding like a Republican, I want to explain my view of "victimization". People are vicitimized by capitalism. That cannot be denied. However, people are not vicitimized by thier parents, peers, bosses, co-workers, etc. Parents try to raise thier kids the best they can. Normally (except in cases of abuse) they are not to blame for thier kid's mistakes. Karl Marx pointed out that bosses are simply trying to survive themselves. They cannot be considered evil. They are simply caught in a treadmill like a lab mouse. They can't get off. So who is to blame? I think politicians, the military, and the general public are to blame. We cannot blame our personal problems on them. However, we must admit that certain groups push capitalism on others. Some do it ignorantly. Others know that capitalism brings poverty, but don't care. For the latter half, I have no pity.

Also, I am not black. However, when I was growing up a group of kids shouted "KKK all the way" on the school bus. Many people where I live are racist, homophobic, and xenophobic. There was always a groups of loud mouthed kids that pushed thier agenda on everyone else. I never was racist and never went with the crowd. I have always seen those kids as bullies. I hate bullies. I hate bullies of any color. If had grown up in the hood being bullied, I would hate blacks with a passion. Of course that's not right, but I hate bullies. Unfortunately, we live in a sick sad world. Even in Korea at the age of 25, people are still trying to start stuff. Unfortunately, people will hate you no matter how nice you are to them. (I think President Carter proved that.) You can smile all you want. You can be as meek as possible. However, people will still hate you just for the color of your skin. All you can do is pity them for thier prejudice.