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Kukulofori
25th November 2008, 23:12
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wigsa
25th November 2008, 23:14
Go read a fucking book,any book,it sounds like you need it.
Pirate turtle the 11th
25th November 2008, 23:18
Go read a fucking book,any book,it sounds like you need it.
Fuck off your moronic piece of shit.
He came here to have a question answered (learning is never pointless...etc) not to be insulted.
wigsa
25th November 2008, 23:23
I'm sorry,I genuinely thought it was someone taking the piss.
Kukulofori
25th November 2008, 23:26
That I am not.
#FF0000
25th November 2008, 23:35
Fascism is a political ideology that is just completely wrapped up in nationalism. Its core tenants include Nationalism, collectivism, totalitarianism, class collaboration, and corporatism.
To a Fascist, all are subservient to the State. The State doesn't really represent any particular class, but rather that nation's culture as a whole. Power of the State is all-important, and so those who would "weaken" the culture (and therefore, the state) are gotten rid of, by either being forced to assimilate, or, in the case of Nazi Germany, killed.
Fascist states generally employ a sort of mixed economy (hence "Third Position", which implies Fascist opposition to liberal Capitalism and Marxist Socialism.).
Fascism is a difficult ideology to really explain clearly, because it is different in every country. Italian Fascism is different from Nazism, which is different from Brazilian Integralism, which is different from the Romanian Iron Guard.
However, they all have those general tenants in common.
Sociologist Michael Mann wrote a great book that I have not yet got around to finishing titled "Fascists!" that you might be interested in. It starts with a great run down of what Fascism is (much better than my messy introduction to the topic), and a sociological analysis of Fascist movements. Marxists probably won't agree with some of off-hand statements, but it's a good read, from what I have read.
Dr Mindbender
26th November 2008, 14:32
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Revolutionary wiki entry-
http://www.revleft.com/vb/fascist-t91657/index.html
Pirate turtle the 11th
26th November 2008, 16:59
I'm sorry,I genuinely thought it was someone taking the piss.
Yeah buts its better to answer peoples questions even if it seems like they may be taking the piss. Just in the off chance they aint.
Soviets
26th November 2008, 17:55
Fascism is very confusing:confused:, I wish politics was more simple:thumbdown:
Q
26th November 2008, 18:23
FASCISM: What It Is and How To Fight It (http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1944/1944-fas.htm)
Happy reading :)
Voice_of_Reason
27th November 2008, 03:28
Fascism is very confusing:confused:, I wish politics was more simple:thumbdown:
Politics aren't complicated, usually people tend to over examplify what they are talking about to make it seem more complicated. Try reading some more simple stuff such as George Orwell or things that incorperate politics into the book. If you don't like reading just try using Wikipedia. Look up Communism, Facism, Anarchism, Anarchist-Capitalism, and Capitalism. Or if you are younger pay attention in History or World Economics classes.
BobKKKindle$
29th November 2008, 02:34
Trotsky's work on fascism is superb, not only because he explains how fascism relates to crises of capitalism, but also because the historical experience of communists when confronted with the danger of mass support for fascism also demonstrates the importance of building a united front. In essence, fascism is initially rooted in the class interests of the petty-bourgeoisie* but fascist movements can gain the financial and political support of the bourgeoisie when capitalism is faced with the threat of social revolution, as fascism allows the bourgeoisie to destroy working-class organizations and restore profitability by using the power of the state to impose downwards pressure on wage rates and eliminate the militants within the working class.
* This article should be of interest on this point: http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=16518
spice756
29th November 2008, 04:18
Police state ,big army , no freedom ,war like mind , authoritarian , totalitarian ,the rich and businesses control the government.
Very patriot and support free-market. Anti-freedom and anti- democracy.
GPDP
29th November 2008, 05:11
Police state ,big army , no freedom ,war like mind , authoritarian , totalitarian ,the rich and businesses control the government.
Very patriot and support free-market. Anti-freedom and anti- democracy.
Not necessarily. Fascist governments, while still capitalist, often held little love for the "free market". Hitler's economic policies, for example, could be seen as modestly Keynesian.
Pinochet's Chile is the closest thing I can think of that could be categorized as both fascist and supportive of the "free market".
Black Sheep
30th November 2008, 03:32
Can fascism be irrelevant with material conditions?Or is it always dependent by them?
spice756
30th November 2008, 06:28
Well I guess there is two ways you can look at it businesses control the government or government control businesses .
You got Spain ,Italy and Germany I can think of.
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