George W. Bush - Professional Fascist

[nz revolution]

George W. Bush a professional Fascist?

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00146.htm

(Edited by nz revolution at 1:13 pm on June 22, 2003)

[Liberty Lover]

I already posted something on this:


Bush-Hitler comparisons

"Might I start off by saying that if you have made such a comparison you are an idiot.

This whole assertion is based solely on twisted communist logic that concludes because both Bush and Hitler have moved forces into another country they are identical. Such declarations affirm nothing but your ignorance as to the reasoning behind Hitler’s occupation of Czechoslovakia and the philosophy of Nazism.

Hitler stated in Mein Kampf that history was the record of struggles among races. He believed that the superior Aryan race, centered in Germany, would be the final victor and would rule the world. He believed Germany needed large amounts of territory in which to expand, a need that he would meet by conquering territory and expelling or killing the local populations. Such measures naturally required wars, but not for political or economic objectives. Hitler’s wars were fought to win vast stretches of land on which German settlers would raise large families.

There are no similarities between the doctrine of Hitler and the doctrine of Bush. The branding of GW as a Nazi is not unlike communist governments branding everybody who dared to disagree with them a "fascist", in attempt to justify their execution.

The minds of commie pukes seem to work that way...Anyone who disagrees with you is a fascist no matter what facts are shoved in your face."

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...m=22&topic=2218 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=2218)

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 1:16 am on June 22, 2003)

[nz revolution]

Fascism was also present in Italy remember.

I'm not suggesting he is the same as Hitler.

Loose definition of Fascism = Merging of Corporate power and a Militarist State.

I suppose Chine is then included...

[McFuck]

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0306/e843c6214f1cf7542e89.jpeg

Hilarious.

[Dirty Commie]

That is it! NZ is awesome, they actyualy put that on tv? when their huge neighbor to the north west is one of amerikkkas staunchest supporters...wow!

[nz revolution]

The TV station released an apology the next day. There has been no word about who did it (and why, is a reason necessary?).

Keep checking back to the site. It might have more info about what will go down because of it. It is a site where people send press releases and so on...

[Zombie]

Anyone who disagrees with you is a fascist no matter what facts are shoved in your face.

Oh? And what about you? What do you call those who disagree with you, no matter what facts are shoved up your hairy arses? Unpatriotic? Ennemy of peace? Antidemocratic? Ennemy of democracy?

or is it TERRORIST?

(Edited by Zombie at 11:12 pm on June 21, 2003)

[Liberty Lover]

If you use violence or intimidation against civilians for political purposes I would call you a terrorist.

If you show a lack of love for your country I would call you unpatriotic.

If you wish to sit back while significant threats to world peace grow ever larger I would call you an enemy of peace…or an appeaser.

If you support doctrines such as Marxism-Leninism, in which all-social, political, economic, intellectual, cultural, and spiritual activities are subordinated to the purposes of the rulers of a state I would call you an enemy of democracy.

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 4:26 am on June 22, 2003)

[Michael De Panama]

That's all well and good, but if you say "If you use violence or intimidation against civilians for political purposes I would call you a terrorist." and also defend Bush, I'm not going to be taking you seriously at all.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Heh...LL...I get a good laugh every time the fucking tosser posts.


Dubya is not a fascist. Allow me to explain.


1) Dubya does not hate Jews. Just the ones that believe in Judaism

2) Dubya doesn't hate minorities. Just the ones that are not white.

3) Dubya is a true American and doesn't hate opposing political parties. Just the ones that aren't capitalist.

4)Dubya supports democracy and would never go against the will of the people of the USA. Just ones who live in florida.

5)Dubya does not want to crush the Muslim religion. Just the ones who support Islam.

It's too bad Nixon didn't live to see this. He had been waiting since 1974 for someone to take the title of "worst President in US history" away from him. Good old Tricky Dick almost made it.

[Liberty Lover]

Michael,

Perhaps I should have included the word deliberate in there somewhere.

RAF,

Thanks for your contribution, but if I had wanted to hear from somebody with your IQ, I'd be at my local supermarket talking to the vegetables. If ignorance were a disability, you'd get the full pension. I suggest you heed Mark Twain's advice; "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

I suggest the next time that you feel an urge to embarrass yourself and bore others, that you summon all your might, and resist.

[Michael De Panama]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 11:36 pm on June 21, 2003
Michael,

Perhaps I should have included the word deliberate in there somewhere.
Perhaps, if that's what you would have wanted, but I still wouldn't be taking you any more seriously.

[Zombie]

If you use violence or intimidation against civilians for political purposes I would call you a terrorist.
I'm sure you had a blast helping out those civilians down in Panama, Salvador, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Iraq, Palestine, Vietnam, Korea, Timor etc etc back in the twentieth century... should I spell state terrorism to you?

If you wish to sit back while significant threats to world peace grow ever larger I would call you an enemy of peace
I totally agree on this one. I should probably enroll in some sort of milicia and go fight the biggest peace threat on Earth : you.

I would call you an enemy of democracy.
are we talking American style pseudo-democracy? Or real democracy?

No need to reply LL, you have already shown how lowly you can get by insulting RAF's IQ, something you probably will never have anyway.

ta'ta

[black sheep.]

Quote: from nz revolution on 1:11 am on June 22, 2003
George W. Bush a professional Fascist?

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00146.htm

(Edited by nz revolution at 1:13 pm on June 22, 2003)


Is George Bush a fascist? George Bush may or may not be a racist. However, his policies lead to racism. George Bush's policies are warmongering. War nearly always leads to racism. George Bush supports the "American Empire". American forces are forcing other nations to submit to America's wishes. This leads to conflict between the conquerors and the conquered. A conflict between the "masters" and the "slaves". Now if you are a follower of "Fredrich Nietzche" then you would have no problem with the "American Empire". Communists support human equality. Nietzche's followers do not. However, from the standpoint of Communism, America is an "Evil Empire" as Che said.


Also Bush's domestic policy supports racism or at least is "anti-degenerate".
Why? Because real people have all sorts of problems. They cannot compete in a Social Darwinist system. A social darwinist system will lead a society of "masters and slaves". Bush claims to support "Equal Opportunity Capitalism". However EOC denies the true fact that most people are "slaves" and are destined to get screwed under capitalism. The "slaves" can try to not be lazy, whiny crybabies. They can support EOC 100 percent. However, they will still lose. Why? Because all men are not created equal. Nietzche would say enslave the degenerates and Communists will show love to the degenerates. I find it funny that EOC supporters did not support EOC 50 years ago. For example, remember the recent thing in the news about Trent Lott.
(Note: The people who are degenerates are of all races.
So I believe in EOG "Equal Opportunity Degeneracy") Is being degenerate bad? No, It just means were human.
Degenerates simply cannot compete in Social Darwinist society.
Trent Lott mistakenly believed 50 years ago that all blacks were degnerate. They were not. However, some were degenerate. However, many poor whites were also. Of course, you have to distinguish between people that are really degenerate and those generate people that have not been given a fair chance due to prejudice.

Now we see that Bush's government supports racism. Therefore it fulfills the 1st qualification to be labled fascist.



Another description of fascism is that it supports a
military/capitalist coalition. Bush's government is pro-business, pro-military, and anti-socialist.


Therefore, I conclude that Bush's government is fascist
Bush's government is a "Franco" type fascism as opposed to a "Hitler" fascism. However, even Franco did not attack other countries. So I conclude Bush is worse than Franco. Does anyone agree with me? I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. Hey, I'm a degenerate.
So I am not trying to insult anyone.

[Liberty Lover]

I'm sure you had a blast helping out those civilians down in Panama, Salvador, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Iraq, Palestine, Vietnam, Korea, Timor etc etc back in the twentieth century... should I spell state terrorism to you?

America was at war with the Soviet Union. As their objective was to actually win this war they, naturally, felt it necessary to fight in it. Don’t think for a moment that the USSR would have collapsed had the US not committed itself to diminishing the global power of the Soviets by supporting anti-Soviet factions, and eliminating pro-Soviet factions.

I totally agree on this one. I should probably enroll [sic] in some sort of milicia [sic] and go fight the biggest peace threat on Earth: you.

I know I’m a strong guy but not strong enough to pose any great threat to world peace.

are we talking American style pseudo-democracy? Or real democracy?

In modern democracies, authority is exercised for the most part by representatives elected by popular suffrage. Please elaborate on why you consider America not to be a democracy.


(Edited by Liberty Lover at 7:20 am on June 22, 2003)

[Iron Star]

george w is to much of an idiot to be a professional fascist.

he's a bumbling fool of a dictator.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 5:36 am on June 22, 2003
Michael,

Perhaps I should have included the word deliberate in there somewhere.

RAF,

Thanks for your contribution, but if I had wanted to hear from somebody with your IQ, I'd be at my local supermarket talking to the vegetables. If ignorance were a disability, you'd get the full pension. I suggest you heed Mark Twain's advice; "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

I suggest the next time that you feel an urge to embarrass yourself and bore others, that you summon all your might, and resist.



That's the best you got boy? No wonder DePanama doesn't take you serously...I believe he is on to something.

Now go ask your daddy for permission to look at some "naughty" sites on the internet...You will need to dig up some real good slags from these sites since your natural wit is somewhat lacking at best.

EDIT:

I have an observation and a question LL. You seemed to get very upset at my one post slagging "The Chimp". If you and The Chimp were in prison together would you allow him to make you his ***** and fuck you up the ass or would you simply suck him off as your patriotic duty to The Chimp? I personally think you would let him slip in right in the 'ole backdoor.

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 7:32 am on June 22, 2003)

[Liberty Lover]

Now go ask your daddy for permission to look at some "naughty" sites on the internet...You will need to dig up some real good slags from these sites since your natural wit is somewhat lacking at best.


A comically pathetic rebuttle.

Congratulations! You have just proved the theory that there is no limit to human stupidity. I suppose I should have some sympathy for your handicap. You are obviously paralyzed from the neck up. But perhaps you would try learning elementary grammar before attempting to inflict your next literary abomination on this message board.


(Edited by Liberty Lover at 7:40 am on June 22, 2003)

[Zombie]

naturally, felt it necessary to fight in it

by attacking the poorest countries like Laos, Grenada, Vietnam, Nicaragua, of course.
by backing up neo-nazi dictators throughout Latin America.
by backing up ruthless dictators in the Middle East (how's your ol' buddy Hussein doing these days?) and South-East Asia.
by making sure the poor stay poor, while you exploit them and their natural ressources to your own needs.

you were, and you are still afraid of that so called commie virus, that could spread and eventually reach you and take you away from your comfortable condos, your 18mpg SUVs and your 7.1 surround sound systems. You will never trade all those years of comfort earned through the blood of millions of innocents. Grandpa Hitler wouldn't have liked that would he?

Please elaborate on why you consider America not to be a democracy

Florida 2000.


so LL, how's your ol' buddy Kissinger doing these days? rotting in his grave is he?

[Liberty Lover]

by attacking the poorest countries like Laos, Grenada, Vietnam, Nicaragua, of course.
by backing up neo-nazi dictators throughout Latin America.
by backing up ruthless dictators in the Middle East (how's your ol' buddy Hussein doing these days?) and South-East Asia.

How exactly do you propose America should have fought the Cold War?

"Mister Khrushchev, we don’t think your promise to 'bury' us was particularly nice. Perhaps we could sit down and work out our differences over a nice cup of tea and a scrumptious English muffin"

That more to your liking?

you were, and you are still afraid of that so called commie virus

Were, definitely not still.

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 7:57 am on June 22, 2003)

[Zombie]

That more to your liking?

hell no, I would work hand in hand with the Nazis if that's what it takes to win the cold war. (Oh wait, you already did that.)
because god forbid, a non-american people should never fight for it's rights and freedom.
because god forbid, a non-american people should not have the same basic rights as you Americans claim yourselves so proud of.
that would be utterly unacceptable to the American businessmen, and to that fascist/racist/sexist patriot God of yours.

Kruschtev probably will never bury you himself now, but the people of the world will. Just wait, your death is coming soon. I'm saving my best bottle of vodka for that day. We will party hard all night and all day, for it will be the day the world got rid of you, the real virus.

Were, definitely not still.
so what exactly are you doing here? sharin' the luv?

[Vinny Rafarino]

BoyLL,

I didn't know I was going to have an editor son. Don't you remember little one? My undergraduate degree was in English. I have a firmer grasp on grammar than you will ever have. I merely don't care what a bunch of teenagers think of my "atrocious" grammar. Twit.

It's truly amazing that's the best slag you have. You are getting more pathetic as the days go by son! You never answered my question boy. Will Dubya be slamming you from behind or will you be providing presidential support from the front? Perhaps it's both....You are a such a true little "patriot" you know. Yes. Definitely both. "Dubya's little soldier". How cute. Little cut-off camoflauge short shorts, mesh camoflauge tank-top...You will be Dubya's pride of cell bock C.

Paralysed from the neck up? I think the last time I heard that one I was 12 or so.
I'm telling on you.

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 8:21 am on June 22, 2003)

[Sabocat]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 2:19 am on June 22, 2003
I'm sure you had a blast helping out those civilians down in Panama, Salvador, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Iraq, Palestine, Vietnam, Korea, Timor etc etc back in the twentieth century... should I spell state terrorism to you?

America was at war with the Soviet Union. As their objective was to actually win this war they, naturally, felt it necessary to fight in it. Don’t think for a moment that the USSR would have collapsed had the US not committed itself to diminishing the global power of the Soviets by supporting anti-Soviet factions, and eliminating pro-Soviet factions.

I totally agree on this one. I should probably enroll [sic] in some sort of milicia [sic] and go fight the biggest peace threat on Earth: you.

I know I’m a strong guy but not strong enough to pose any great threat to world peace.

are we talking American style pseudo-democracy? Or real democracy?

In modern democracies, authority is exercised for the most part by representatives elected by popular suffrage. Please elaborate on why you consider America not to be a democracy.


(Edited by Liberty Lover at 7:20 am on June 22, 2003)



You've gotta be kidding me with this one. So the U$, because of the perceived threat from the Soviets, decide that the best course to take is to subvert legal elections all over Central and South America and kill innocent civilians? That's some fucked up policy. I would guess then, that you totally back up Kissinger's famous line regarding Chile..."Why should the United States sit back and allow a Communist to take power just because the people are too stupid to elect the right leader" (or words similar)

So regardless of what the popular vote was, regardless of what the citizens of all those sovereign nations wanted, the U$' perceived war was more important?

Or do you think that it is possible that this convenient "Cold War" was more about United Fruits general interests?

[AntisocialSocialist]

LL: The "Cold War" was as real as the threat from Iraq... US terrorism against the Central and South American countries is well documented.

I dont understand why the Bush administration doesnt just come clean about their foreign policy and tell it like it is.... "We want it all, our way,with our leaders, try and stop us...."

[Zombie]

"We want it all, our way,with our leaders, try and stop us...."

they've been doing just that all over the past century. Having Bush saying it is just useless, the world will not forget and forgive the innocent blood his predecessors and himself have on their hands.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Quote: from Zombie on 12:34 am on June 24, 2003
"We want it all, our way,with our leaders, try and stop us...."

they've been doing just that all over the past century. Having Bush saying it is just useless, the world will not forget and forgive the innocent blood his predecessors and himself have on their hands.

Want to bet X? You simply don't understand political evolution. Do you know why they will get away with this? It is because we are now powerless to stop them. The capitalist governments can crush us like roaches whenever they choose. And passive libertarian communists are to blame. You can philosophise about your precious proletarian revolution all day long. It's not going to change reality. You have failed the people and betrayed the party. We can only sit back and watch as you kids have even made urban guerrilla tactics useless.

What also pains me is that we can poke fun at LL for an eternity and he will always have the last laugh. I'm surprised LL does not thank you libertarian communists personally for effectively crushing communism. You did the dirty work of the capitalists why they sat back and reaped all the rewards. You kids are simple little pawns.

Us dinosaurs have known this for decades. Why do you think we are so adamantly against liberal-leftism? Take a look around fool! You are just as bad as them if not worse. You kids were not even smart enough to knw you were being used. History will show that communism was destroyed by communists, not capitalists. You are a simple minded lot with big ideals and no common sense.

[Zombie]

RAF, wake up, you're no dinosaur, boasting your ego is no way impressive.
I'm sure you are the father of the revolution, and that you are going to save the human race. bravo, clap clap.

Simply said, your post was really empty. It's like you had something in mind but you weren't able to express yourself properly. Instead, you were successful at blatant blabbling all the way, I'll give you that.

Correction, it's not little young minds like I who are guilty of passivness, it's egocentric old fucks like you who are just too power hungry. I'm sure Stalin and Lenin would be proud of you grandpa.

I don't remember having said anything to anger you or upset you, but you just managed doing this to me yourself. I admire your idiocy.

Next time you want to post, finish jerking off first. You will make much more sense believe me.

[Vinny Rafarino]

You admire my idiocy eh? Admire whatever you want mate. It changes nothing.

Your failure is a testament unto itself. This party is in such a shambles not even us real communists can correct what these kiddies have done.

We can't even conduct any operations without worrying about not only the fuckng capitalists but the whiny little kids as well. It's a sorry state of affairs that you lot are responsible for. I'm hoping you're happy living under capitalists because you boys don't have a shot in the dark of ever changing it.

[Zombie]

GO whine on someone else man, maybe your mom or something.
I really don't get you, you seem to be talking to yourself.
Consider your future petty comments ignored.
Next time you want to talk, get sober.

[Zombie]

because you boys don't have a shot in the dark of ever changing it

OH BECAUSE YOU DO!! forgive me Lord Royal Air Farce, I must bow to you and your idiocy.

what a chimp.

[anti machine]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 4:24 am on June 22, 2003
If you support doctrines such as Marxism-Leninism, in which all-social, political, economic, intellectual, cultural, and spiritual activities are subordinated to the purposes of the rulers of a state I would call you an enemy of democracy.

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 4:26 am on June 22, 2003)


Plato wouldn't necessarily fall into any of these categories. in fact he advocated abundant knowledge and expression of ideas. Yet he would most definitely be considered an "enemy of democracy", should such a thing ever come into existence anyway.

[anti machine]

agreed with RAF. Though it is not necessarily the "kiddies" who have destroyed communism, simply the impressionable weaker souls who have searched for an outlet for their angst and found it in the communist revolution. And in that sense, and by those means, communism fell and continues to fall.

and Zombie:

Quote: from Zombie on 1:16 am on June 24, 2003
Correction, it's not little young minds like I who are guilty of passivness, it's egocentric old fucks like you who are just too power hungry. I'm sure Stalin and Lenin would be proud of you grandpa.


I surely hope that is the last time you equate Lenin with Stalin, or label him as a power-hungry fucker.

[Zombie]

RAF is an egotistic joke, and you AM are a somewhat of a joke too. Next time you think of threatening me like that, think again.
I'm no Andrey here, make note of that.

(Edited by Zombie at 1:42 am on June 24, 2003)

[Vinny Rafarino]

Quote: from Zombie on 4:11 am on June 24, 2003
because you boys don't have a shot in the dark of ever changing it

OH BECAUSE YOU DO!! forgive me Lord Royal Air Farce, I must bow to you and your idiocy.

what a chimp.


Royal Air Force?? What are you babbling about boy? Do you know nothing about communism and urban guerilla warfare? I've been at this for 20 years son. You've got nothing on me. You must be a kiddie if you don't know what RAF stands for. Look at my avatar. And as for as this "threatening" business goes. Fuck off son, I got chunks of little shits like you in my stool. What? Is mummy's little kiddie commie soldier trying to be a tough guy? You're pathetic little boy. Do some fucking research son.

[Zombie]

you got vision problems grandpa? Did you read Force when it was Farce?
Get lost old dude, go play macho man on your likes.
Do you even have a family??? I think not, your attitude just proves it. *yawn* blab all you want, I'm starting to think you're a real funny guy. two thumbs way up!!

Oh and by the way, where did I threaten you blind grandpa?

[Zombie]

You're pathetic little boy

You're absolutely spot on! I do have most of my life ahead of me, still have time to enjoy it, to live it.

You, on the other hand....

[Vinny Rafarino]

So I take it you do not know what the RAF is then. A hint mate, it ain't royal air force or farce.

Just get your bottle up a bit and admit you don't know.

It's expected for a lad your age.

I would reckon the young lad is typin' away as we speak trying to figure it out. Any real communist would already know and not have to research it.

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 8:02 am on June 24, 2003)

[Zombie]

No I don't really know what it means.

instead of starting this whole useless flamefest and whinyparty, you could get your shit together and act with maturity. Your attitude does not reflect on your knowledge. Sorry but when you first posted here, I saw you as a man of respect, but your latest attacks just proved me wrong. I don't even get why you started all this.

What does RAF stand for, if you are willing to start a rational debate again.

[Zombie]

I would reckon the young lad is typin' away as we speak trying to figure it out. Any real communist would already know and not have to research it.

*sigh*, forget it man, talking to you is really useless, i now know you don't have a family of your own.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Well now we have something. Red Army Faction. Something the Liberal-left is adamantly against. The passiveness of the liberal-left of today has made most of our organisations disband. We simply cannot take the heat from both sides. It makes any tactical operation impossible, as there are too many of our own
"comrades" ready to rat us out to the capitalists.

Now lets get something straight lad. I had not spoken any harsh words to you during this thread until after you posted this;


RAF, wake up, you're no dinosaur, boasting your ego is no way impressive.
I'm sure you are the father of the revolution, and that you are going to save the human race. bravo, clap clap.

Simply said, your post was really empty. It's like you had something in mind but you weren't able to express yourself properly. Instead, you were successful at blatant blabbling all the way, I'll give you that.

Correction, it's not little young minds like I who are guilty of passivness, it's egocentric old fucks like you who are just too power hungry. I'm sure Stalin and Lenin would be proud of you grandpa.

I don't remember having said anything to anger you or upset you, but you just managed doing this to me yourself. I admire your idiocy.

Next time you want to post, finish jerking off first. You will make much more sense believe me.

You began this zombie. I was simply defending myself. What? Did you expect me to just run with my tail between my legs? Like I stated prior. Those of us whom have actually fought and continue to fight this war have not only assaults from the capitalists to worry about but also massive dissention among our own. We have to resort to posting on these fucking boards to see if it's even possible to continue any type of operations. Do you think this is fun for me? These silly message boards are all the party has left. I bet you kids actually love when there is imperialistic actions from the US just so you can run around the streets with your placards and red flags showing your "outrage" to the capitalist regime. Do you understand my frustration Zombie? If it were not for our efforts in the 80's and early '90's communism would be completely dead in the west. Do you realise that your complacency has led the RAF to actually disband? Even my party has anly a little over 60 members left. We lost 5 members in Europe in the last five years to prison because some of our "comrades" ratted us out to save their own arses. Do you know what prison is like? I doubt it son. Only now that the terrorist regime of the west is concentrating on killing arabs can we even do things a small as posting on a message board! I was hoping for at least a little unity from a site that idolises comrade Che. Not a chance! You kids have no problem advocating rural guerilla warfare because it's not "real" to you. It's actually romanticised here. Yet the concept of advocating urban guerilla warfare will get you ratted on quicker than John fucking Gotti. You lot think you know so much. Well let me tell you this my friend, I've worked with individuals that actually knew Che Guevara and they are nothing like you lot here. So if I seem angry zombie it's because I am. I'm watching my own party members crushing the very thing I have spent my entire adolescent and adult life fighting for. It's a horrible state of affairs. So please mate don't patronise me, I've done things to keep this party alive that you've only read about.

Comrade RAF
BR

EDIT:

In addition Zombie. Your comments on my having no family are despicable. I made a choice years ago to give up any hope of starting a family to serve the communist party. Simply despicable. Would you be willing to make a choice like that for the party son? It's okay though mate. My family for the past 20 years has been comprised of the real members of the Communist party.

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 8:55 am on June 24, 2003)

[Zombie]

I thought you started this by saying :


Quote: from COMRADE RAF on 1:04 am on June 24, 2003

Want to bet X? You simply don't understand political evolution. Do you know why they will get away with this? It is because we are now powerless to stop them. The capitalist governments can crush us like roaches whenever they choose. And passive libertarian communists are to blame. You can philosophise about your precious proletarian revolution all day long. It's not going to change reality. You have failed the people and betrayed the party. We can only sit back and watch as you kids have even made urban guerrilla tactics useless.

What also pains me is that we can poke fun at LL for an eternity and he will always have the last laugh. I'm surprised LL does not thank you libertarian communists personally for effectively crushing communism. You did the dirty work of the capitalists why they sat back and reaped all the rewards. You kids are simple little pawns.

Us dinosaurs have known this for decades. Why do you think we are so adamantly against liberal-leftism? Take a look around fool! You are just as bad as them if not worse. You kids were not even smart enough to knw you were being used. History will show that communism was destroyed by communists, not capitalists. You are a simple minded lot with big ideals and no common sense.


But it doesn't matter anymore, I see why you're angry, your last post was a heartfelt one believe me. I really can't say more than that at this early hour, I just wish I could have gone through what you went through in order to understand your position better. For some of us, these messageboards are the last line of resort. I see it as a teaching tool, that's why i come here and read what other experienced members have to say. Don't come and tell me I could join my local communist party or something like that, I've been moving in and out of places so much ever since 1988 that I don't know what 'local' means anymore. I don't really get along with real people either, so my last resort is to read, and this site is providing it's share of reading. I know I'm no combatant, I don't have the balls for it, and I wish I could. But I don't. Life can be a real *****, but there's nothing I can do about it.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Cheers comrade.

[nz revolution]

Hey RAF are you in Germany? In the CP there?

I was talking to a German woman a few weeks back who was in Paris 68 rebellion and her brother was in some SP or CP and afterwards their house was routinely raided by the pigs as he was a suspected RAF member, crazy huh? They found a printing press in his family's attic/roof and the parents knew nothing of it.

vive la revolucion

[Vinny Rafarino]

No. I'm in the USA now. the hotbed of oppression.
BR comrade.

[nz revolution]

What party are you in in the U$? RCP?

[Vinny Rafarino]

Politically in the US I have recently affiliated with the LRP.

That's simply political affiliation and can change as if I see fit. They tend to lean towrds old trotsyist ideals however. I don't really agree with everything they want...It's just affiliation.

Yes the RCP in the US and the UK.

I will always be a member of BR however.

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 12:17 am on June 25, 2003)

[Urban Rubble]

Well, I just read all 5 pages of this thread, and now I have nothing to say because I missed it all.

I do agree with RAF on the fact that pacifist's killed Communism.

[The Radical Elf]

I can't believe it! The media actually told the truth!