Reflecting on Stalins reign

[wasteman]

Tavarishi! If it had not been for stalin The soviet union would have eaten its own head.
Stalin hit the nitro buton on communism as well if he had not been so strick people would abandon communsim for the fairytail gold paved roads of american capitalism.
Open you eyes tavarishi! Stalin was neesisary!
He had done his evil but he had made pure our future.

Let us see anyone else try to Run The worlds largest country while America funnels its capitalist earned dollars into deystroying your country. They wouldnt even fit in his CHAIR!!! :laugh:

The reason russia degenerated into stalinism is because of the objective conditions in russia. Lenin and Trotsky never believed socialism could survive in Russia alone, their perspective was that the workers would hold onto power and wait for the revolutions elsewhere in europe. Unfortunately these revolutions were betrayed by the reformist leadership of the working class in these countries. :crying:

[Poison]

I disagree. Stalin created the very opposite of Communism, he was nothing more than a dictator with a red banner. He trashed the very ideals of Communism--classlessness and worker liberation for example--while calling it Communism, forever making it harder for future workers to embrace Communism, as all a capitalist must do is point to Stalin to scare all away from true Communism.

[LOLseph Stalin]

I disagree. Stalin created the very opposite of Communism, he was nothing more than a dictator with a red banner. He trashed the very ideals of Communism--classlessness and worker liberation for example--while calling it Communism, forever making it harder for future workers to embrace Communism, as all a capitalist must do is point to Stalin to scare all away from true Communism.


You impress me. I fully agree. :P

[Q]

Stalin wasn't "necessary". He headed the bureaucratic counter-revolution that consolidated a totalitarian dictatoship. Stalinism is the theoretcal apologist product of a degeneration of a revolution isolated into a backward country.

[Hiero]

I disagree. Stalin created the very opposite of Communism, he was nothing more than a dictator with a red banner. He trashed the very ideals of Communism--classlessness and worker liberation for example--while calling it Communism, forever making it harder for future workers to embrace Communism, as all a capitalist must do is point to Stalin to scare all away from true Communism.
He didn't call it Communism.

[ZeroNowhere]

Stalin wasn't "necessary". He headed the bureaucratic counter-revolution that consolidated a totalitarian dictatoship.
Counter-revolution against what? The NEP? :D

[Incendiarism]

Stalin was better than his successors.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Stalin was better than his successors.

From a communist perspective, I could see how one would think this.

However, the bar is still set laughably low, even if we accept this as a truth.

[wasteman]

He didn't call it Communism.

if he didnt call it communism why did he always talk of the legacy of lenin etc.

[Robespierre2.0]

Funny how you still claim that the USSR 'degenerated into Stalinism' when the rest of the post suggests that you think he was a good thing. Also, 'Stalin's reign'? He was General Secretary, not a monarch.

Perhaps you are still looking at the situation from a bourgeois perspective. I guess looking at things that way, you can believe all the slander about his 'brutality' and still support him, because even the bourgeois admit that the USSR worked wonders economically.

But yeah, right on. Libertarian communism and Trotskyism would be great if they weren't crap theories that never bring any real progress. In the meantime, I'll settle for some Leninism.

Edit: On second thought, that last paragraph kind of sounds like trolling. Sorry. I'm just trying to emphasize that Leninism has a better track record of actually bringing change and improving conditions for workers.

[Poison]

He didn't call it Communism.

Granted, but he was a member of the Communist Party and called himself a Marxist-Leninist, so nevertheless he fucked things up for us Communists quite nicely.

[Robespierre2.0]

Granted, but he was a member of the Communist Party and called himself a Marxist-Leninist, so nevertheless he fucked things up for us Communists quite nicely.

Yeah, it's too bad a single person had to ruin communism for all of us, because the thought of demonizing communism and communist leaders had never crossed the minds of the bourgeoisie until Stalin came about, right? Why, if only saint Trotsky had been crowned leader- then the communist movement would be booming today, because the bourgeoisie would have never dared to criticize the spotless conduct of the USSR, even considering how easy it is to lie about what happens over in a isolated country on the opposite side of the globe which is ideologically committed to destroying them.

Also, remember, communism is about PR, not revolution. We can talk about radical change, but by god, we'd better be sure have at least 66% of the population in agreement with us before we can take action, because otherwise that would be ~gasp~ 'AUTHORITARIAN'!