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Totalitarian
14th June 2003, 05:31
I found this essay when i was researching human nature. It's quite interesting, because it concludes that racism is an emotional impulse from the ancient, 'reptilian' part of our brain and cannot be eliminated. Also looks at >

-Humans as intelligent apes
-Emotions and the brain
- Hatred of the "other"
- Where does racism come from?
- Antiracist morality
- War & tribal struggle
- Racial differences in behaviour


http://home.attbi.com/~neoeugenics/Hate.htm

Hampton
14th June 2003, 07:27
I found this quote before my eyes started to bleed: While society denies that race has any meaning, or that what intelligence means can be scientifically studied, the geneticists are unfolding the mysteries denied by Marxists.

And this one:Clearly, a race does not have to be superior to feel superior - Gypsies have a low average IQ of about 85, have few skills, and find nothing wrong in stealing and begging.

And this: Whites should in fact live as far away from Blacks, as well as Hispanics, two groups that are more violent and prone to crime than Whites...Furthermore, Blacks can be far more extroverted, verbal, gregarious, etc. than Whites, resulting in a sense of disgust. It seems that racial groups, to reduce hate, disgust and fear, should in fact take steps to reduce these emotions - and that includes living with others that are more similar.


Race has no meaning unless you give it one. But I will admit that this guy is a complete fool and bases his studies on racist sterotypes.

Edit: Man that's bad grammer


(Edited by Hampton at 2:45 am on June 15, 2003)

Unrelenting Steve
14th June 2003, 14:29
I totaly agree Hampton, and perhaps a recuring characteristic found in certain races is just because of the greater chance of that race to partake in the same culture and/or similair upbringings.

Vinny Rafarino
15th June 2003, 00:22
The argument he is posing has already been disproven years ago. The study model he uses advises that "In separate studies, they found that exposure of white subjects to the faces of unfamiliar African Americans led to amygdala activation, and the degree of activation was directly related to the subjects' score on a test that measures racial biases."

The amygdala is an area of the brain that controls emotional behaviour and feelings. What this study shows is that if you show a picture of a black man to several white racists that possess different degrees of racism, Their amygdalic responses will also be of different degrees. Tell us something we don't already know jackass.

Totalitarian
15th June 2003, 01:44
Quote: from COMRADE RAF on 12:22 am on June 15, 2003
The argument he is posing has already been disproven years ago. The study model he uses advises that "In separate studies, they found that exposure of white subjects to the faces of unfamiliar African Americans led to amygdala activation, and the degree of activation was directly related to the subjects' score on a test that measures racial biases."

The amygdala is an area of the brain that controls emotional behaviour and feelings. What this study shows is that if you show a picture of a black man to several white racists that possess different degrees of racism, Their amygdalic responses will also be of different degrees. Tell us something we don't already know jackass.


All that indicates is whites differ in their emotional response to the racial "other" (in this case, blacks).

The test showed that most of the subjects underwent physiological reactions of disgust or fear when exposed to pictures of unfamiliar blacks. Those that had internalised antiracist morality, were more able to suppress these reactions due to increased familiarity with nonwhites or other reasons.

Emotions are uncontrollable by reason. Adoption of antiracist beliefs will not be able to fully suppress racism, which is unconscious and involuntary.

Racism cannot be eliminated, but the negative effects can hopefully be minimised.

Vinny Rafarino
16th June 2003, 11:32
All that indicates is whites differ in their emotional response to the racial "other" (in this case, blacks).

You cannot possibly come to this conclusion totalitarian as only whites were studied. You would need a black subject group to make a determination like that.

The test showed that most of the subjects underwent physiological reactions of disgust or fear when exposed to pictures of unfamiliar blacks. Those that had internalised antiracist morality, were more able to suppress these reactions due to increased familiarity with nonwhites or other reasons.

The study only showed that the test group had some level of amygdalic activation when the pictures were shown to them. The Amygdala controls many more emotional responses than simply fear and disgust.

Emotions are uncontrollable by reason. Adoption of antiracist beliefs will not be able to fully suppress racism, which is unconscious and involuntary.

Emotions are not controlled by reason. Reason is exact opposite of emotion. Emotional responses are controlled by the amygdala and are unconscious responses to consious stimulisation.

Racism cannot be eliminated, but the negative effects can hopefully be minimised.

There is not enough evidence from either side to make any sort of accurate judgement either way. This specific study proves absolutely nil.

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(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 11:03 pm on June 16, 2003)

mentalbunny
16th June 2003, 15:21
Studies like that don't help in any way,who cares about the emotional response? it essentially means nothing, reason is what we need.