Anarcho - Communism?

[thinkerOFthoughts]

Ok sorry guys for this question but I still feel very unsure as to the difference between the two. I have read a few things so I was wondering if anyone would take the time to answer my little question?

Anarcho - Communist Government =
Communist Government =

Communist idea of Property =
Anarcho - Communist idea of property =

Anarcho - Communist what kind of authority?
Communist - what kind of authority?

[F9]

Ok sorry guys for this question but I still feel very unsure as to the difference between the two. I have read a few things so I was wondering if anyone would take the time to answer my little question?

No worries, we are here to help, and we are very happy when people ask questions!


Anarcho - Communist Government =
Communist Government =

Anarcho-Communist and simple Communist government is an oxymoron, there isnt any kind of government in Communism


Communist idea of Property =
Anarcho - Communist idea of property =

No property for both


Anarcho - Communist what kind of authority?
Communist - what kind of authority?

No authority for both

Basically Anarcho-Communism is referring to: We are "fighting" for Anarchism, we are Anarchists and thats what we look for, but when the Anarchism will be accomplished the economical way of organize of the commune we support that its the Communist one!We are Communists in the economical practise of it!

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[ZeroNowhere]

Anarcho-communists are... Well... Communists. ;)

[Sprocket Hole]

In a nut shell, they differ on how get to the communist part.

[rebelworker]

Anarcho Communists push for the ultimate goal of a stateless classless society just like every other branch of "communism" the main difference is how to get there.

We tend to disagree on ideas like the role of the revolutionary organisation and participation in elections, although there are disagreements along these lines between Marxists as well(but i will let the different camps of marxists explain these.

Anarchist communists beleive in the need for a revolutionary organisation, that is a place for like minded revolutionaries to come togeather to develope propaghanda, develope theory and coordinate action.
WE DO NOT however see this organisation as the one holder of "the truth" nor do we think that this organisation should take over the leadership positions social movements. We see ourselves as a part of the vanguard of the working class in the sense that we are concious revolutionaries, but do not equate ourselves as the sole leadership of the revolution.
Two examples of this position are here
http://www.nefac.net/node/197
http://struggle.ws/ppapers/role.html

This question is very complicated and would take a pages to really properly adress it but basically we feel historically Communists parties, starting with the Bolsheviks, have seen themselves as "the will of the revolutionary masses" and have done all sorts of manipulative things with this as their justification.

This subject heavily affects the question of the "dictatorship of the proletariate", the other major point of disagreement between anarchist and marxist communists.

For most Anarchists, we feel that during a revolutionary period, the working class must supplant itself as the new political power, but how this is to be done differs greatly from what Lenin ect. pushed, which was in our opinion, a Dictatorship of the Party.

A good critique of Bolshevik methods on this question is from another school of communism. In the Book "The Bolsheviks and Workers Control" http://www.spunk.org/texts/places/russia/sp001861/bolintro.html (http://www.spunk.org/texts/places/russia/sp001861/bolintro.html)
Council communist, Maurice Brinton uses a historical timeline of major events to paint a picture of the Bolshevik Party one by one eliminating organs of direct working class democracy like unions and workers councils untill all that remained was the Party burocracy.

Anarchists argue that communism can only be developed by revolutionary direct workers control of the economy and politics, while vanguardist Marxists argue that a strong state, controlled by the revolutionary party must be first established and it will eventually wither away leaving communism, once enemies of the revolution have been eliminated.

Here are some links to excellent material on the subject that will help you.
http://www.zabalaza.net/index02.htm
http://www.nefac.net/node/544

[thinkerOFthoughts]

Both Communism/ Anarcho-Communism/ and Anarchism want to eventually abolish money right?

[The Feral Underclass]

Both Communism/ Anarcho-Communism/ and Anarchism want to eventually abolish money right?

That will be a natural consequence of creating a communist society based on "from each accordingly to ability, from each according to need". Money will become useless.

[thinkerOFthoughts]

Just checking cuz I think the world would be so much better off without money.