To not-so-big-down-there bill - fuck you, i am glad canada d

[Spartacus2002]

i hate people like him... dont diss canada for not participating in you stupid war where were the americans when britian was getting the snot bombed out of them in WW2? sitting on their fat asses, stupid cowards you just sit in your big battleships and press buttons and launch missiles cuz you to cowardly to fight face to face i respect those suicide bombers more then i do your coward army... all you do is attack little third world nations and back out when it matters the most

[Anonymous]

Oh, and I suppose the mighty he-man canadian army would've just marched right out their in the middle of the dessert and strangled those Iraqi soldiers with their bare hands.

[Urban Rubble]

Why does everyone assume all Americans are fat ? I'm not trying to be political here or anything, but why the fuck do people make such stupid gerneralizations ? I hate it when people from other countries call us fat, it's just stupid. Bash our politics and arrogance, I'll cheer you on, but don't make such stupid comments, I'm American. Look at our Olympic teams and sports teams.

[Pete]

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 7:06 pm on June 9, 2003
Oh, and I suppose the mighty he-man canadian army would've just marched right out their in the middle of the dessert and strangled those Iraqi soldiers with their bare hands.


Our Army scares me for two reasons 1) I am afraid the goliathw ill fall from the sky and crush me and my school because it is in bad condition and 2) we have more kills (on average) in Afganistan than the Americans...

[notyetacommie]

Quote: from Urban Rubble on 12:31 am on June 10, 2003
Why does everyone assume all Americans are fat ? I'm not trying to be political here or anything, but why the fuck do people make such stupid gerneralizations ? I hate it when people from other countries call us fat, it's just stupid. Bash our politics and arrogance, I'll cheer you on, but don't make such stupid comments, I'm American. Look at our Olympic teams and sports teams.


Your Olympic champions are a joke, buddy. You BUY the victories, and thus, discredit the Olympics.

[Hampton]

Your Olympic champions are a joke, buddy. You BUY the victories, and thus, discredit the Olympics.

They're not my Olympic champions, I don't think they're voted in.

(Edited by Hampton at 10:34 pm on June 10, 2003)

[Zombie]

Quote: from Urban Rubble on 7:31 pm on June 9, 2003
Why does everyone assume all Americans are fat ? I'm not trying to be political here or anything, but why the fuck do people make such stupid gerneralizations ? I hate it when people from other countries call us fat, it's just stupid. Bash our politics and arrogance, I'll cheer you on, but don't make such stupid comments, I'm American. Look at our Olympic teams and sports teams.


Just like everybody assumes that an arab is a middle aged muslim terrorist who looks like Osama Bin Laden's twin brother.

Just like everybody assumes that a person coming from Albania is the same thing as a person coming from Russia or Latvia..

Just like everybody assumes that a Chinese man is the same as a Japanese man.

Just like everybody assumes that poor people are dumb fucks, and that rich people are brilliant minds.

Just like everybody assumes that money equals happiness, and that being poor doesn't.

Just like everybody assumes that gay people are inhuman and have no social rights whatsoever.

shall i go on?

People tend to generalize A LOT, Urban Rubble, Americans generalize on other cultures, just like other cultures generalize on Americans. That's life. What can you do.

But about what the 'fat asses' comment, I'm not justifying it, but it is not so far fetched. Look around, do you see a neighborhood that doesn't have a McDonald, a Burger King and a Pizza Hut in it? Does the fast food culture ring a bell?

[Urban Rubble]

So because others make generalizations that makes it O.K for someone else to ? If I called French people pasty snide snail eaters would I not be called a racist ? Just because people generalize alot doesn't mean you should, it's called rising above petty bullshit.

Oh and about the Olympics ? We buy victories ? Where's the proof ? I think you are getting us confused with Russian ice skaters there bud.

Was it the Russians that got caught buying off the judges in the last winter Olympics ? I can't remember.

You can critisize the U.S about alot of things, but we do have some of the best athletes in the world. I mean look around, half the people in this country a big meathead jocks.

[Zombie]

Did you read my post or what, i said I DON'T JUSTIFY IT, okay dokay?
You didn't get the point at all.
I wasn't trying to justify anything, i was presenting facts, pure and simple.

You got a little too patriotic there pal.

[Kapitan Andrey]

Useless Rubble...shut up, you peckerhead!!!

Our ice skaters deserved that prise!!!

[Urban Rubble]

Jesus Andrey, first you say it's O.K to kill civilians in war, now you're saying it's O.K to bribe judges to get what you want ? Interesting. Your nationalism blinds you.

Zombie, I realize that you said you weren't justifying it, but you still listed all the generalizations other people make which seemed like a way of saying it's O.K because others do it. I just don't see the point of listing all those generalizations, I realize they exist and I don't condone it.

I'm not trying to start shit, I like you, but what exactly do you mean I'm being too patriotic ? I simply stated the FACT that we have good athletes, I said good, not better than everyone else.

I fucking love my country to death. In a way I am patriotic, that doesn't mean I love my government or the way this place is run. I realize that we are fucking evil, but I love my land, and my people. I know alot of them are arrogant morons, but that seems to be a trend of humanity in general. I'm as far left as the next guy, and very anti-american. But being against the government and the way this country is run does not mean I have to hate everything about it. We have produced great movies, great writers, great inventions and great people. We have also brought alot of death, destruction and misery, and that is what I am fighting against.

[Zombie]

I understand you perfectly Urban, and I'm sorry if I insulted you by saying you were a bit too patriotic.
I listed all those gen's just to show how people can be arseholes sometimes, like I said, i never justified the first post, just like i don't justify the gen's i listed.

I'm not attacking you on the athletes issue though, that's the least of my worries.

[Kapitan Andrey]

Flooding Rubble...we didn't bribed judges, moron!!!

This isn't politics or lenin, so I CAN SAY - FUCK YOU!!!

WHERE ARE YOUR PROOFS, MORON!?

(Edited by Kapitan Andrey at 8:45 am on June 10, 2003)

[Bianconero]

"I fucking love my country to death. In a way I am patriotic, that doesn't mean I love my government or the way this place is run. I realize that we are fucking evil, but I love my land, and my people. I know alot of them are arrogant morons, but that seems to be a trend of humanity in general. I'm as far left as the next guy, and very anti-american. But being against the government and the way this country is run does not mean I have to hate everything about it. We have produced great movies, great writers, great inventions and great people. We have also brought alot of death, destruction and misery, and that is what I am fighting against."

I don't know you, "Urban Rubble", and it's not my intention to jump to conclusions.

But what you just said sounds reactionary. Nobody, absolutely nobody who understands Marx' theory of materialism can be a patriot. "I fucking love my country to death" - these are not the words of a Marxist.

A Marxist just understands that patriotism as well as nationalism, religion etc. are used by the ruling class to brainwash the working class in order to make them not realize the essential need for a class struggle. In fact, I'm not saying you can't like the place you live in, but patriotism is something a marxist should not know.

"I love my people"

Well I like most of your people, but I realize that most of them are brainwashed and uneducated. Therefor, I'm on the side of the working class. But, the working class in the US don't realize their class identity. They see themselves as "US - Americans" (whatever) but not as what they actually are. And that's what makes them to enemies at the moment.

[bigbill]

to sparty:

You mean the glorious Red Canadian Army didn't get involved in the war against Iraq? What a surprise because we all know that when it comes to leading the world, no one does it like a glorious Red Canadian.

I have visions, Sparty. Americans and Canadians walking side by side in the desert. Americans running over the enemies with their tanks and blowing them away with their Apache helicopters. Wait a minute! Here come are amazing Red Canadian brothers, throwing snowballs and hockey pucks at the enemy.

We could have been a team, Sparty.

[Urban Rubble]

Zombie, cool, I'm over it.

Bianconero, I'm not a patriot. I said in a way I was patriotic, but I really am not. I do however love alot of things about my country, the things I hate are in the majority though. I don't think it's at all against Marx to love your people and the land you live in. I'm no patriot, I just love alot of things about my culture and I love the actual continent I live on, it's beautiful, great mountains, great beaches, and where I live, great forests. I am no patriot and I am defiantely no nationalist. I shouldn't have said I was patriotic "in a way", that was misleading.

"Well I like most of your people, but I realize that most of them are brainwashed and uneducated. Therefor, I'm on the side of the working class. But, the working class in the US don't realize their class identity. They see themselves as "US - Americans" (whatever) but not as what they actually are. And that's what makes them to enemies at the moment"

Well, I admitted that alot of my countrymen are uneducated, arrogant, ignorant, and generally a bunch of pricks. But as I stated before, I think this is a general trait of humanity these days, maybe it's more so in America, I don't get out to Europe much.

[Pete]

You mean the glorious Red Canadian Army didn't get involved in the war against Iraq?

There is nothing glorious about subjecting a people to a military dictatorship by a foriegn army opposed to one of a local army.

Everything else you say proves your ignorance. It requires an education to come here pal. Get one then come back, we do not need your uneducated comments. Talking to you may make us dumber.

[bigbill]

Jeez, Crazy Pete, now you're talking like a filthy nationalist! That's a no-go for a devoted commie fuck like yourself. Hold on now! Are you a commie fuck or are you a proud Canadian fuck. Hurry up and make up your mind.

[bigbill]

Holy shit, Crazy Pete, I better watch my tone, or you might lock my thread again, you big pussy. Can dish it, but you can't take it. Someone ought to buy you a new dress and bonnet for Christmas.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

It might also help if you didn't flame the moderators.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Alright. I've had a few tonight so here we go. I sincerely hope that my comrades on this board understand that I am very far to the left....what you all would consider hard-line communist and I've been hittin' the sauce quite a bit tonight. In my drunken state I find it disgusting that individuals like littlebill still exist on this planet. You would think he would be more evolved than this. I feel sorry for his children. Especially when this tick lays the belt across their back 'cos that's the only form of discipline this waste of fucking flesh knows. Ban me if you like but I can't wait until the revolution runs rampant through this decadent fucking mess so I can but a bullet through this morons tiny little brain. Two from the back just to tear his slimy little face into shreds. Then I can give his children to responsible humans who won't fill their developing brains with his brand of Rush inspired, hood wearing bourgoise (yes RedStar I actually used this word) Ideals. You slimy fuck I hold earthworms in higher regard than you. let me let you in on a little secret that I did not respond to in your last useless thread. Yes you maggot I will indeed put you in front of a wall and riddle your pathetic capitalist body with lead. Your capitalist system sees fit to assassinate MY revolutionaries, I see fit to give you the same treatment. Like it or not the movement needs people like me, cos this job does not suit just anyone.

And to my pacifist comrades, spare me your insults after this post because deep down inside you know it's true. The world can definately do without unevolved apes like littlebill.

Your time is almost up littlebill, enjoy it while it lasts.

Edit:
What did you expect little bill? That we were all teenage pacifists starting a meaningless electronic revolution? I've been in this game a long fucking time you pathetic pile of shit. I have no love for your useless ideals. Sleep tight littlebill and don't forget to kiss your children goodnight because you never know when the revolution is going to wake you up in the middle of the night with steel pressed against your forehead.

Cheers mate!

-jules

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 7:45 am on June 11, 2003)

[bigbill]

COMRADE R(EAL)A(SSHOLE)F(UCKER),

Have I upset you? Moi? Dear heavens to Betsy! I guess this means you don't love me anymore. I'll never get to see you dashing down the streets so officiously in your party uniform and your adorable red beret while all the teenagers snicker at you behind their hands and say, "Christ, what a wanker." Oh, well. A girl can't have everything she wants.

Are you an Englishman, RAF. You sound like it. Try to be more like Tony Blair. If you can't manage that, give football hooliganism a try. You seem to have the temper for it. I can picture you now crying in your beer as Liverpool goes down once again to Manchester United. Suddenly RAF stands up angrily in the pub. "This won't be tolerated! Everybody knows Manchester is a bastion of capitalism. David Beckham's a pig. Quick, my Liverpoolion brothers, decisive action must be taken! Off with their heads. Line them up against the wall and shoot them. It's for the good of all football worldwide."

see you at the revolution, my friend. I'll be wearing the pink dress and blowing you kisses.

Keep on shaking it, girl!

[Vinny Rafarino]

I'm scottish littlebill and I outgrew football in '79. i outgrew people like you in '83. I'm not upset, a job is a job.. If you had any balls you would know what to do now. But alas you choose to run around in your pink dress.

Keep countin' those days mate.

[bigbill]

Jesus Christ, a drunken Scotsman. What a surprise, RAF! All my family live in Glasgow, and I'm scheduled to be there next month. When I go, I hang out at a pub called The Grapes.

You must be from Edinburgh. You certainly wouldn't be tolerated in Glasgow. It's too working class, "unevolved," and ape like for someone of your immense intellect. Yep, you're another Edinburgh weirdo liberal hippie type.

Up the 'Gers! Fuck Celtic.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Good try.

Aberdeen. Grew up in London. I now reside in the US as it gives easier access to knobs like you.

Next month huh? The Grapes you say?

EDIT:
Don't hate me bacause I'm smarter than you. Hate bacause me I will I will bury you.

(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 8:40 am on June 11, 2003)

[Pete]

Jeez, Crazy Pete, now you're talking like a filthy nationalist!

How so? All I did was say there is nothing glorious about taking the worlds most powerful military force and throwing it against one of the worlds weakest. That is bullying. America would never take on N. Korea or China these days. That would take courage.

Are you a commie fuck or are you a proud Canadian fuck

I am niether. I am a Marxist. Notice no 'fuck.' I hold no pride in my nation. We have some good things, a lot of skeletons and bad things. It is better than some places, worse than others. It is a nationstate. I love the actual land more than the image of the nation state or any nation within this state. By the land I mean natural features by the way.

Holy shit, Crazy Pete, I better watch my tone, or you might lock my thread again, you big pussy. Can dish it, but you can't take it. Someone ought to buy you a new dress and bonnet for Christmas

Flaming like this will get you banned. Flaming is barely tolerated among full memebers. If you don't liek the rules don't come here. It is a Internatoinalist Forum for Che Admirers, not capitalists. Although I do know one right winger who loves Che, Castro, and Cuba while hating communism. He is a special case.

Big Bill, your xenophobia is disgusting. I suggest you experience the world and read a non biased source, like www.cbc.ca or something. It is neither right nor left. Or perhaps even the Globe and Mail. It is about the same place as the CBC on the 'periodical spectrum.' They try to do justice to all.