View Full Version : Did anyone see The War We Never Saw: The True Side of War?
It was on channel 4 it showd images of bodies with no head and bodies that we burnt. It brought home the reality of war and not the media managed side the people in the west had seen of the Iraq war. To be honest I am glad that I have seen these horrible images so I can see war in its true light
I watched the program. The American suck and shoot first and then ask questions. Cluster bombs are live and kill cilivilans. US trops beat up ordinary people. One person has his penis tied by the US. The US would fire at amateur and professional camera man showing them in a bad light. One body had no brain in the head and just had lots of skin in a mess. One American troop was at a protest by Iraqis and he said that they the Iraqis had freendom becuase of him the US!
One teenager summed it all up: -
"FUCK YOU BUSH!"
ÑóẊîöʼn
7th June 2003, 14:56
Stating the obvious again RAM?
Do you seriously think we need a spamaddict like you to tell us what we already know?
Do you really think that we are that stupid?
PS: It would also help if you stopped posting something like 10 NEW THREADS a day!
(Edited by NoXion at 2:56 pm on June 7, 2003)
Quote: from NoXion on 2:56 pm on June 7, 2003
Stating the obvious again RAM?
Do you seriously think we need a spamaddict like you to tell us what we already know?
Do you really think that we are that stupid?
PS: It would also help if you stopped posting something like 10 NEW THREADS a day!
(Edited by NoXion at 2:56 pm on June 7, 2003)
I never have and if I could post in all the forums then it would not look so bad!
I acept that the caging was my fault but then if I try and post a thread its spamming isin't it and I only posted 3 new threads and that is spamming! HUH!!!
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 21:56
Yes I saw that the other day, it was horrific what the americans did, it was so sad, almost make my g/f cry
Quote: from ComradeRiley on 9:56 pm on June 7, 2003
Yes I saw that the other day, it was horrific what the americans did, it was so sad, almost make my g/f cry
Yeah it was really bad! Did you see the US beat up those Iraqis on the street and then run when the could see an amateur camera man!
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 22:03
yeah I did and when they realised one of the yanks aimed his gun at the cameraman, their bastards those yanks
That was so bad ohh we diden't know!!!
Lucky no one was killed!
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 22:06
something has to be done A.S.A.P about the USA
Yes on all fronts not just militerily!
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 22:10
yeah, true
im 19 male england (walsall) as of the 7th July I will be permanantly living in Larnaka Cyprus
what about you?
Loknar
7th June 2003, 22:12
RAM
What is this video you are talking about? You mention US troops were beating up Iraqi's on film.
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 22:14
it was called:
The War We Never Saw: The True Side of War
It was news and cameramen, REAL FOOTAGE but the American public never got showed it
It was an ameature Iraqi filming it and you probbaly would not have seen it on TV! But it does exist as ComradeRiley will testify!
I am doing A-Levels at the moment in the UK in Religion (Theology, Ethics and Philosophy (A grade student), Computing and Georaphy A grade student). No planes to move! Enjoying life! Do you want to see some of my Philosophy work ComradeRiley and maybe you could post some of your good work???
(Edited by RAM at 10:26 pm on June 7, 2003)
Loknar
7th June 2003, 22:38
How do you know it was American soliders though?
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 22:41
Loknor, you would have to see this to believe it! there was all sorts of filming not just iraqi but british and british newsmen were saying that it was not on USA channals.
Sure thing RAM send it on over
[email protected]
Quote: from Loknar on 10:38 pm on June 7, 2003
How do you know it was American soliders though?
It appears to me that you are in denial!
Loknar
7th June 2003, 22:46
I'm not in denial, I am sure these incidents have happened but the Iraqi military does have American military uniform so you have to be sure who is on the tape.
Also if American soliders did this they would be disiplined.
It was definily US troops
ComradeRileyI have e-mailed you my work!
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 22:55
Thanks RAM
Tell me what you think by either a message, e-mail or on Che-lives
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 23:00
you have e-mail
I am not sending you a picture of a naked women!
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 23:04
LOL awww spoil sport
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 23:06
man I aint joking, that'll always be appreciated
Nothing wrong with that for you or anyone!
By the way I will not send you the image!
ComradeRiley
7th June 2003, 23:11
oh man but im ya biggest fan
gimma a flic or a pic
Totalitarian
8th June 2003, 14:13
"FUCK YOU BUSH!"
Bush is an absolute disgrace to the white race. How did that drug warrior, oil baron, Arab-killing maggot become elected by US people anyway?
This is what happens when only half the population bothers to vote! It's a one-party state with two flanks, both almost the same.
Lonkar, you are a dumbfuck *sigh*
Non-Sectarian Bastard!
9th June 2003, 01:37
Quote: from RAM on 12:01 pm on June 7, 2003
I watched the program. The American suck and shoot first and then ask questions. Cluster bombs are live and kill cilivilans. US trops beat up ordinary people. One person has his penis tied by the US. The US would fire at amateur and professional camera man showing them in a bad light. One body had no brain in the head and just had lots of skin in a mess. One American troop was at a protest by Iraqis and he said that they the Iraqis had freendom becuase of him the US!
One teenager summed it all up: -
"FUCK YOU BUSH!"
[heavy sarcasm] No! Get out, is war dirty? Is it not so nice as stated in Rambo and other very reliable warmovies? Now my whole image collapses thanks to this shocking artilce [/heavy sarcasm]
Loknar
9th June 2003, 02:16
CrazyPete
Lonkar, you are a dumbfuck *sigh*
ANd you're a forum mod?
I am being brutally honest to you buddy. You posted an article from Fox News which had barely a kernal of truth in it, if that, and claimed it is fact.
Loknar
9th June 2003, 02:31
Ok, that was posted in a different thread.
(Edited by Loknar at 2:31 am on June 9, 2003)
It still relates to you. You also see the violence in Palestine as being the Palestinians problem and actually believe that Israel has the right to be craved out of Palestine and oppress the Palestinian people.
You also look for a conspiracy theory anytime your precious nationstate is put to shame, but never suspect them of being capable of such treachery.
Loknar
9th June 2003, 05:01
It still relates to you. You also see the violence in Palestine as being the Palestinians problem
No I think both are equally responcible. You think that ony Israel can do wrong.
and actually believe that Israel has the right to be craved out of Palestine and oppress the Palestinian people.
Whatb about the opressed Israeli people? Both are being opressed in one way or another. Israel has a right to certain defensive lands, they have been attacked many times on all sides.
You also look for a conspiracy theory anytime your precious nationstate is put to shame, but never suspect them of being capable of such treachery.
Do you think that I believe Bush on everything? Of course I dont. I see conspiracy with Bush because he is a menber of Skull and Bones and many in his cabinet are Neo-Cons.
Vinny Rafarino
9th June 2003, 08:55
I take it you now understand why I have been so harsh with this little boy Pete. I hope these individuals represent the majority of the capitalist schweinhunt party. If indeed that's the case then revolution will be quite easy indeed as I'm sure we can trick them all into attempting to breathe underwater. A few twinkies and something shiny to lure them with should do the trick.
EDIT:
We may have to tell them the twinkies are at the bottom of the lake though.
(Edited by COMRADE RAF at 8:56 am on June 9, 2003)
peaccenicked
9th June 2003, 11:30
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesE/usswastika.gif
Thanks Ram
(Edited by peaccenicked at 12:10 pm on June 9, 2003)
Ha that is good
(PS missed out the closing set of image tags!)
No I think both are equally responcible. You think that ony Israel can do wrong.
The only way Israel can do right is to give into the demands of the Palestinian people and end all illegal occupation and apartheid-like actions. What we are seeing is similar to South Africa after WWII. You can not justify what the White Government did. Ever.
Whatb about the opressed Israeli people? Both are being opressed in one way or another. Israel has a right to certain defensive lands, they have been attacked many times on all sides.
Do you ever ask why they where attacked. And what oppressed Israeli's? The ones who live in the walled settlements on the Palestinian's best land? Come on man grow up.
Do you think that I believe Bush on everything? Of course I dont. I see conspiracy with Bush because he is a menber of Skull and Bones and many in his cabinet are Neo-Cons.
Yet you followed along the war trail from Afganistan to Iraq.
Loknar
9th June 2003, 19:25
The only way Israel can do right is to give into the demands of the Palestinian people and end all illegal occupation and apartheid-like actions.
I got news for you, the occupation is not illeagle. The Palestinians dont have a state but they are bunched up into a territory.
What we are seeing is similar to South Africa after WWII. You can not justify what the White Government did. Ever.
Dont you mean aftter WW1?
Do you ever ask why they where attacked. And what oppressed Israeli's?
Constant attack by sudicide bombers. Do you support Hamas and Hezbollah?
The ones who live in the walled settlements on the Palestinian's best land? Come on man grow up.
Yes because that land is great foir a defensive barrier. Israel has every right to carve up any land from the Palestinians considering Israel was attacked abotu 3 times so far and is surrounded by Agressive Arab neighbors.
Yet you followed along the war trail from Afganistan to Iraq.
because I believe that both wars were justified.
the occupation is not illeagle
By international law yes, yes it is.
Palestinians dont have a state but they are bunched up into a territory.
Welcome to Israeli oppression.
[]Dont you mean aftter WW1? [/i]
No after WWII. Do you know your history of South Africa?
Do you support Hamas and Hezbollah?
More than I support the Israeli Army. Here it is a choice between bad and worse.
Yes because that land is great foir a defensive barrier.
Except it is being settled on and the defensive barrier goes over the next best land.
Israel has every right to carve up any land from the Palestinians
Well thank you for that 16th, 17th, 18th, and 19th century statement. The rape of 3 contienents over 400 years in one sentence....you imperial colonial bastard.
considering Israel was attacked abotu 3 times so far and is surrounded by Agressive Arab neighbors
Because it has no right to exist. Because it is the creation of European powers. Because they did not want to carve themselves up for their own atrocities. Because Europe and America can do no wrong. Because most people from these parts of the world think it revolves around them. Because the Arabs where tired of being stepped on. Because the Arabs are still being stepped on. Because imperialist colonialism is a crime against humanity. Because the Arabs saw part of their nation given to foriegners. Because they reacted like the Iroqois did to the French. ect ect.
because I believe that both wars were justified.
Why? In a world of imperialism and spin doctors anything can be changed. Was it justifiable to destroy a nation and then turn it into the battle ground for warlords, and then forgetting about this and moving into another nation which is suffering from an embargo and bomb it into the stone age for the second time in 12 years?
Mmmm I think that Isreals occupation of Palistine land is the longest in history and is illegal but cos they are Isreal and the US sucks up to them it is ok
Loknar
9th June 2003, 22:46
By international law yes, yes it is.
no it isnt. You see the Palestinians arent a stare but an occupied land. Israel is also violating international by sending settelers into occupied zones.
No after WWII. Do you know your history of South Africa?
Somewhat, it isnt a strong point of mine. I do know they were administering former German colonies for a long time though until they gained their independance
More than I support the Israeli Army. Here it is a choice between bad and worse.
Oh, so you support terrorists.
Except it is being settled on and the defensive barrier goes over the next best land.
They put them selves in this situtation. Also Jordan ceased claimes tgo these lands so they are completely unclaimed only inhabited.
Well thank you for that 16th, 17th, 18th, and 19th century statement. The rape of 3 contienents over 400 years in one sentence....you imperial colonial bastard.
So what? If you feel so guilty then go back to England. if not then you cant complain.
Because it has no right to exist. Because it is the creation of European powers. Because they did not want to carve themselves up for their own atrocities. Because Europe and America can do no wrong. Because most people from these parts of the world think it revolves around them. Because the Arabs where tired of being stepped on. Because the Arabs are still being stepped on. Because imperialist colonialism is a crime against humanity. Because the Arabs saw part of their nation given to foriegners. Because they reacted like the Iroqois did to the French. ect ect.
Oh, so it is ok for nations to launch a war of agression? Arab leaders after WW1 agreed to allow Israeli people to settel in Palestine. Yes even under british occupation there were many kingdoms such as in India.
Why? In a world of imperialism and spin doctors anything can be changed. Was it justifiable to destroy a nation and then turn it into the battle ground for warlords, and then forgetting about this and moving into another nation which is suffering from an embargo and bomb it into the stone age for the second time in 12 years?
Iraq has oil. They will be ok. Afghinastan is very different. They have been feuding for years.
no it isnt. You see the Palestinians arent a stare but an occupied land. Israel is also violating international by sending settelers into occupied zones.
They are violating the Geneva convention and countless UN Resolutoins, thus ILLEGAL.
Somewhat, it isnt a strong point of mine. I do know they were administering former German colonies for a long time though until they gained their independance
Do you know about the aparthied which your nation supported?
you support terrorists.
As I said before the American Army, and in this instance the Israeli Army, are the true terrorists.
They put them selves in this situtation.
I am sure the Palestinian who lost his olive grove said "Please put your apartheid wall right where I get my living from. I would appreciate it, putting myself into this situation."
Also Jordan ceased claimes tgo these lands so they are completely unclaimed only inhabited.
False, Jordan ceded her claim to the Palestinian people.
So what? If you feel so guilty then go back to England. if not then you cant complain.
And how do you know that my family is from England? To be truthful I have no 'motherland' because I like most Canadians am a cultural "Mutt."
And your comment "so what" proves your ignorance. You do not care that history is being repeated.
Oh, so it is ok for nations to launch a war of agression?
Aggression, no.
Arab leaders after WW1 agreed to allow Israeli people to settel in Palestine.
False, the british allowed the European Jews to settle in Palestine, and more came than where allowed.
kingdoms such as in India
Elizabeth the Second, by God's Grace Queen of England, Scotland, Canada, Empress of India ect ect ect... you see?
Iraq has oil
Which is why America went here instead of say the Congo where a civil war has killed over 3million or Liberia where there is also a civil war raging.
They will be ok.
The American supported elite will be ok.
Afghinastan is very different
Quite, there major crop is opium.
They have been feuding for years
But they where stable when America threw them back into hell, so America, the 'liberator,' should return this stability and truly liberate the people instead of just letting them be slaughtered by power hungry warlords.
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