Bush defends free market system

[The Feral Underclass]

I just think it's amazing that one of the richest men in the world has the audacity to stand there and talk about how fair and just capitalism is. I'm sure many of his working class citizens feel the same way :rolleyes:

Capitalism doesn't just have its problems, it's fundamentally flawed you prick!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7728526.stm

[PRC-UTE]

he defends the market right as he's using massive state intervention to save it. :thumbup1:

[Os Cangaceiros]

"Bush defends free market system"

:laugh:

Oh, how I love American political rhetoric.

[Vanguard1917]

I just think it's amazing that one of the richest men in the world has the audacity to stand there and talk about how fair and just capitalism is.

Since capitalism has been quite fair to him, it's not that 'amazing' if you think about it.

[The Feral Underclass]

There was supposed to be a hint of sarcasm.

[Lenin's Law]

he defends the market right as he's using massive state intervention to save it. :thumbup1:

Yup, my thoughts exactly.

Or perhaps "as long as there is massive state intervention to save it"

[Hyacinth]

We should take this as good news, the ruling class for the first time in quite a while thinks that the free market needs defending.

[ashaman1324]

sounds like more "free market= privatizing gains and socializing losses" with his economic intervention.

[Reclaimed Dasein]

I other news, pope still catholic, whore turns tricks, sun very hot, and England still rainy.

[JimmyJazz]

You foreigners probably think the BBC is centrist or right-leaning, but as an American, I heart the BBC. They are miles better than American private media. Can you imagine a CNN* headline implicitly acknowledging that the "free market" system is subject to doubt and in need of ideological defense? Hell no. Fukuyama said it's the end of history and that's that!

Anyway, given Bush's popularity ratings, this could go far toward turning the public against "the free market system".


*Or aol/yahoo? :laugh:

[RebelDog]

There is an existing free market that these elite scum refer to, its just that is leveled against the poorest most savagely, whilst the rich and powerful receive all the protection their government lackeys can manage. Bush is talking about 'free-market principles' and it is easy to see the blatant hypocrisy in this statement. No corporation in the world operates in a free-market.
It is a historical abomination that the word 'free' and 'market' are used in the same sentence.

[ZeroNowhere]

Bush is a mutualist?

[benhur]

I just think it's amazing that one of the richest men in the world has the audacity to stand there and talk about how fair and just capitalism is. I'm sure many of his working class citizens feel the same way :rolleyes:

Capitalism doesn't just have its problems, it's fundamentally flawed you prick!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7728526.stm

The problem is not just Bush or the capitalist. Even the poor people feel the same way, they believe in the American dream, that freedom is all there is, etc. etc. Point is, if workers don't care about themselves (so much so when you talk to them, they sound more capitalist than the capitalists:D), then is it realistic to expect rich guys to care for them?

[Psy]

We should take this as good news, the ruling class for the first time in quite a while thinks that the free market needs defending.
Well capitalism is in crisis and so far the ruling class has totally failed to solve the crisis while the ruling class is well aware that if it is not solved soon things will get much worse.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

We should take this as good news, the ruling class for the first time in quite a while thinks that the free market needs defending.
Very true.

Also, with the way Bush's popularity has been going, his endorsement is the kiss of death - so the more he endorses capitalism, the better.

[fabiansocialist]

The problem is not just Bush or the capitalist. Even the poor people feel the same way, they believe in the American dream, that freedom is all there is, etc.

You are correct. In the USA the poor think they are responsible for their plight, that somehow they are at fault, and that the rich legitimately and honestly acquired their wealth. A triumph of indoctrination. These same people doubtless think that the USA has a "free market system."

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Bush is a mutualist?

Conservatives have touted anti-intellectualism ever since the collapse of Goldwater's campaign. I doubt Bush even knows who Proudhon is.

The "free market" Bush loves consists of buying out an oil company with daddy's money, failing, and then buying out a regional monopoly via baseball. :laugh:

[spice756]

sounds like more "free market= privatizing gains and socializing losses" with his economic intervention.

The problem is most people in the US want a free-market and small government and fear a big government and social programs.Look how people responded to the show sicko or Obama.Yap they thought socialism was coming to the US.

They don't like this economic intervention and high government debt.When the economy does bad they blame the problem on economic intervention , lack of free-market ,big government ,social programs ,socialism and this is want CNN and FOX is spoon feeding them.It almost a libertarian cult of personality .

They are not class consciousness and do not understand class struggle and exploitation.

And socialists have dug them self a big hole.I don't know want they can do now.


Capitalism doesn't just have its problems, it's fundamentally flawed you prick!

But they do not believe this.


You foreigners probably think the BBC is centrist or right-leaning, but as an American, I heart the BBC. They are miles better than American private media. Can you imagine a CNN* headline implicitly acknowledging that the "free market" system is subject to doubt and in need of ideological defense? Hell no. Fukuyama said it's the end of history and that's that!

All the media outlets and talk radio are very right-leaning .AM radio ,FM radio and XM radio are all right-leaning .

Look if you left-leaning read books and go on the internet.You not going get in the news or talk radio they all right-leaning.And fox is to the extreme. :(:(Forget blogs ,editorial ,magazines and talk radio they are worse than CNN.




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[KurtFF8]

Bush actually made a point I agree with however. He talked about how Europe's systems generally have more regulations and they still went through the same problems that the American system is going through. Granted, this point he is making is a point any Communist could make: Social Democratic regulations can't "save capitalism"

Although the Euro regulations have also gone through a period of being chipped away like the American ones. But regulations can't save capitalism from its contradictions.

[Guerrilla22]

If countries have had great economic difficulty regardless of whether or not they have a large amount of regualtions in place that should tell you something.

[Psy]

If countries have had great economic difficulty regardless of whether or not they have a large amount of regualtions in place that should tell you something.
It says more that all the ruling class can do so far is spew rhetoric while throwing money at the crisis. The G20 showed the ruling class has no real strategy to deal with the current crisis.

[Dr Mindbender]

I just think it's amazing that one of the richest men in the world has the audacity to stand there and talk about how fair and just capitalism is. I'm sure many of his working class citizens feel the same way :rolleyes:


Quite. It's never ceased to amaze me how the hackneyed phrase ''capitalism isnt perfect but it's better than the alternatives'' always come from those that benefit the most from capitalism. Just look through OI for the proof.

You'll never hear anyone at the brunt defend it.

[ashaman1324]

The problem is most people in the US want a free-market and small government and fear a big government and social programs.Look how people responded to the showsicko or Obama.Yap they thought socialism was coming to the US.
they've been living around "capitalism good, communism bad"( with about as much explanation) for over 50years, the fact sicko was given media at all shows progress.
same deal with obama, the low/ lower middle class just loves him because they benefit from him.
the upper/ upper middle class sees it as giving some of their hard earned cash to bums with too many children because they're too lazy to go get a job.



And socialists have dug them self a big hole.I don't know want they can do now.
we need publicity, just to get our name out there at the moment, make our movement less alien to the general public.

[spice756]

we need publicity, just to get our name out there at the moment, make our movement less alien to the general public.


What do you mean they need less publicity ?

[paolo22]

Yes, this is the time we've been waiting for. It's time to kick the propaganda machine while it's down. The bourgeoisie are starting to realize that times have changed, and the world will not support their outdated and primitive way of life anymore, it's fundamentally flawed and time has taken it'd grind on it.

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