Is it possible?

[thinkerOFthoughts]

Is it possible to actually form a purely Communist state in a world pretty much dominated by Capitalism? Wouldn't we be forced to have some sort of Capitalism to stay floating?

[revolution inaction]

Is it possible to actually form a purely Communist state in a world pretty much dominated by Capitalism? Wouldn't we be forced to have some sort of Capitalism to stay floating?

most communists think that it is impossible to achieve communism in one state.
to have communism you would need a really massive area so you had the resources to be self sufficient, and then it would under mine the remaining capitalist states just by existing and become global anyway.
Also communism is stateless so it would be a state :) but that's just a mater of what you call it, and how you define a state.

[Vendetta]

No it's not possible, since communism is a stateless society.

[F9]

Is it possible to actually form a purely Communist state in a world pretty much dominated by Capitalism?

Basically Communism=/=State.
But i think you meant to ask, if communism can be settled between some lines in map(country) and not be globally?
Basically yes it could be happened and its possible, although our goal is global Anarchism/Communism so we wouldnt just sit there happy about some space we achieved Anarchism/Communism.


Wouldn't we be forced to have some sort of Capitalism to stay floating?

Why?:confused:

Fuserg9:star:

[Tower of Bebel]

socialism is either international or it doesn't exist

[thinkerOFthoughts]

Basically Communism=/=State.
But i think you meant to ask, if communism can be settled between some lines in map(country) and not be globally?
Basically yes it could be happened and its possible, although our goal is global Anarchism/Communism so we wouldnt just sit there happy about some space we achieved Anarchism/Communism.



Why?:confused:

Fuserg9:star:

Well I was thinking that if you could not support yourself then you would need to start trading with other countries (most likely Capitalist) so some sort of capitalism would end up forming to sustain yourself (If I am thinking correctly that is.)

My other question that just popped up from what you guys have said. A stateless community? sooooo how do we then determine what is ours? if we dont creat any borders other countries can easily move in wouldn't they?

[F9]

Well I was thinking that if you could not support yourself then you would need to start trading with other countries (most likely Capitalist) so some sort of capitalism would end up forming to sustain yourself (If I am thinking correctly that is.)

Even if we did want to get something from capitalists, in such a situation then be sure that they wouldnt help us at all.Moreover the "solution" when you can not support yourself, is to get bigger production and this can be achieved in many ways ex.Technological advance, grow more fields etc.


My other question that just popped up from what you guys have said. A stateless community? sooooo how do we then determine what is ours? if we dont creat any borders other countries can easily move in wouldn't they?

Yes, if we would be under this situation(Anarchism/Communism not globally) we will be forced to "draw" the "fantasy lines" in map where our community is, however this would be only used so we defend this place from counter-revolutionaries and etc enemies.We would try to expand "our" "fantasy lines" because as i have said the goal of Anarchism/Communism is global!

Fuserg9:star:

[thinkerOFthoughts]

ok thanks :)

[LOLseph Stalin]

Is it possible to actually form a purely Communist state in a world pretty much dominated by Capitalism? Wouldn't we be forced to have some sort of Capitalism to stay floating?

It's called world revolution. "Workers of the world, unite." :)

[ZeroNowhere]

Is it possible to actually form a purely Communist state in a world pretty much dominated by Capitalism? Wouldn't we be forced to have some sort of Capitalism to stay floating?
There'd still be a 'state', as class would still exist. Socialism is international.

[Kukulofori]

I don't see why communism in one country or even in one company can't work. I mean certainly a worldwide revolution would be ideal but unless I'm missing something huge (which is possible as I haven't slept in like 3 days) doing business with capitalists doesn't make you capitalist.

[benhur]

This q has occurred to me many times. Unless communism is implemented on a global scale, it cannot succeed. But to implement it on a global scale seems impossible, considering we can't even do it in a few countries. :(

So what's the value of our effort, when it's clear that communism restricted to one nation cannot be successful? Or, do we have delusions that our efforts can somehow create a simultaneous revolution throughout the world?

Such questions destroy my motivation from time to time.:(

[bruce]

Are co-op communities that exist within capitalist states widely considered part of the transition process?

[LOLseph Stalin]

This q has occurred to me many times. Unless communism is implemented on a global scale, it cannot succeed. But to implement it on a global scale seems impossible, considering we can't even do it in a few countries. http://www.revleft.com/vb/possible-t94198/revleft/smilies/sad.gif

So what's the value of our effort, when it's clear that communism restricted to one nation cannot be successful? Or, do we have delusions that our efforts can somehow create a simultaneous revolution throughout the world?

Such questions destroy my motivation from time to time.http://www.revleft.com/vb/possible-t94198/revleft/smilies/sad.gif

If there's Communism in one country it doesn't work because that country would be forced to compete with the Capitalist world. Witness the USSR. It's a major factor that Stalin overlooked when coming up with his "Socialism in One Country" policy.